For a majority of 4 year degree dumb asses, 10Gs is piss into the wind. If anything, hard working students of trade school will benefit from this more and have their debts paid in full.
But more to the point, this is a distraction. Contrary to establishment GOP talking points, poor people are NOT your enemy. Someone you know is living off welfare? So what? They're likely living in the shittiest neighborhoods and eating the most cancerous food. There's any number of reasons people give up and considering the joke of the COVID bills as well as ALL the other corporate welfare checks and kickbacks to big business, I am finding it harder and harder each day to blame it on lazy people. Lazy people have been around for... well... as long as there has been a human race. There will always be those who try to take advantage of the system. But let me ask you this, which one of those two types is a threat to your well being? The pothead in the trailer park minding their own business? Or the corporate fat cat lobbying for regulations to murder small business?
The anti-welfare arguments are a DISTRACTION. They serve no actual purpose except to gaslight and divide us all. That lazy fuck isn't working in politics to steal more of your money. The money allocated to them was stolen by your representatives NOT them. Them asking for money is NOT the problem. It's the shitheads giving it to them. It's the assholes in government who are enabling them not them taking out welfare.
This has always been a prime talking point of establishment GOP faggots to keep you voting for them and for you to see your fellow struggling man as the enemy. This is how they get away with stealing more of your taxes. Because you're too busy posting lame Facebook memes belittling other shleps, they've been able to get away with staling your income and what's worse is we fall for it every fucking time. If you want to actually make a difference, start by calling out the real thieves. Stop falling for their tactics. Stop allowing yourselves to be divided over trivial bullshit. If you actually care, then continue to get more representatives who support your ideas.
Lastly, instead of assuming all people on welfare are lazy, talk to them. I do know people who are and yes, I agree with reform, however a safety net protocol to help people get back on their feet is a good thing. And don't quote me "tHaT's ThE cHuRcHe'S jOb" WRONG!!!!!!!!!! Jesus never established a formal religion. That was Paul. Jesus commands US to help the poor. He doesn't commission an organization, He commands US to do it, no ifs ands or butts.
Things are hard enough as is. We aren't helping anything by making life harder for others. This is all theater. It's the same play. Come out with something ridiculously stupid and gaslight the masses. Are you seriously going to fall for it again?
I think this is a straw man argument. People generally dont hate poor people. People hate policies that motivate people to be poor, or cause people to be poor.
People hate student debt forgiveness because it's yet another grith using the fiat printing press.
However, you are right - $10K is piss in the wind AND its already causing a lot of amongst the lefties, so we should just grab popcorn and watch.
Just made a post about using it as an opportunity to redpill normies now, the fine print says the application won’t be available until the end of the year. After midterms.
I agree it's not true of everyone. However, most people I talk to talk about how it enables people and they clearly have their interests distracted.
Whereas if you keep focus on the "I don't want the fucks in Washington touching my money.
I already hate my neighbours though.
Okay you have some things to work on unless you're in CA or NY
are you me?
It's $10,000 which is not even one semester at our local state "university"
It's complete bs
I'm Gen X and my mom would pay for her year's expenses going to university working a summer job at either a department store or typing the telephone book.
Yep
Where is this? Its like 3 semesters of graduate school where i live.
NJ
I honestly don't get the outrage. People should be immuned to it by now since the puppet masters send $3 billion to Ukraine every week.
The bigger thing is a President can just simply decree this.
Fuck checks and balances I guess.
It's not true..deferred only...
it's also another attempt to hand money to the banksters. most student debt is much larger than 10k so this won't really do much in the next year to help the students....but it would throw a bunch of money in the accounts of the big banks who are in a world of hurt right now
Ain’t nobody gonna pay any of this money back. The debt is too far gone. This is our great grandchildren’s debt but shit will go bust long before they have to worry about it. Live frugally, buy metals, land, and spread those memes!
10k is a drop in the bucket, an insulting gesture anyway
Has anyone checked out how much college costs these days? LOL 10k barely gets you lunch.
Not angry with people getting free money, most people would take free money. We are angry with Biden because this program is not fair to people that already paid for college and it’s not fair to the people making just over the $125,000 income limit that he decided was the cutoff. Perhaps it would be fairer if he gave 10 grand to everyone that ever had to pay for college. How about a full refund to everyone that ever had a Pell Grant?
Yeah the income limit bothers me. $125k/$250k household is definitely a nice income, but plenty of people have HEFTY debts associated with the schooling and startup costs to make those incomes.
This is just a vote getting scheme. The lower income person's vote counts as much as the millionaire's vote, so, biden set the dollar amount at a 'bait level' that would get the highest number of people to show up at the polls who wouldn't otherwise make the effort. If he were smart, Biden would make the relief contingent on keeping the house after midterms in order to make the incentive for more people, red and blue, to vote blue in Nov.
Thanks for your input!
First let’s just even see if this is a real thing that Biden can even do- we should all know by now to set outrage aside - at least 72 hours lol - and to be honest $10K would only cover the interest on my sons loans and this wouldn’t sway his voting opinion at all. As far as welfare? Sure I’ve seen the abuses when I was a young mother on assistance- but it does help those that really do need it. It helped me when I needed it and it’s currently helping my pregnant daughter. Her & her husband are not lazy- they are soon to be a family of 5 living off $42K a year. We need to stop accusing and attacking each other & instead be supporting and lifting our brothers up. Even if they are ‘lefties’ - the only way through all this is togetherness.
Uh oh. Did some get called out or is someone feeling guilty for being a welfare recipient? Guess what, 10k is a lot of money, including to people that have degrees. Certainly not piss in the wind. Someone lied to you about what a college degree is/does. And this might blow your mind, but the vast majority of us go and work our asses of for the pitance we do earn. We work just a hard as tradesmen, and many of us dont get to leave work at the jobsite. We also earn a little more and pay more in taxes, so sorry if it chaps our asses to have to buy generic beans and rice while the lady w EBT in front of me is getting steak and lobster. Kinda feels like you are the one w hate and resentment here.
Because I make too much. That's my point. I work, make small paper and live humbly. Others dont and eat like kings. Calling bs.