Hi. Yes I can do this, though not expertly. I've only experienced it a few times.
I can't explain your experience because I can't even explain my own. But I can share some of my weirdest ones.
I was interrupted just as I was about to pop out and there was a massive eyeball on my ceiling looking down on me and it "felt" like it was me somewhere else looking back at the me here on this plane.
Another time I was interrupted and saw a demon-looking thing vomiting in my bed. (Oh and after I saw that my daughter who was in my bed suddenly sat up and puked, so yeah you could say I was freaked because I know this wierd shit happens to me but stay the F away from my kids.)
And my very first OBE i became conscious while OOB and found myself floating up against my ceiling then felt myself drift back down and go back into my body. Strange things happen to me and I have basically no one to talk to because it seems to rarely happen to others.
Oh and the best experience ever took me off planet to learn the meaning of life, too much to type here though.
That's exactly what happened to me too. I was told I would not be allowed to remember what I learned, only that I was there and was shown and I got to remember how it felt when all was revealed. So while I don't remember exactly what I was shown, I do remember laughing out loud and saying:
"we worry so much and for what, for nothing, everything is happening exactly as it should, everything is going to be fine, why do we waste our time worrying so much?"
That memory stayed with me. I wish I could remember what I saw that gave me that crazy reaction lol. But I at least have some comfort knowing that whatever it is made me believe we all have nothing to worry about. Just enjoy this life while you are here.
How old are you? You could be early on your journey. I'm in my mid 40's and this started spontaneously for me in childhood. Along with lucid dreams, prophetic dreams, and other things.
35..my knowledge quests have usually been drug induced so props to you for uncovering those truths without. Are you still active on the journey? I prophesize somewhat but I think my law of attraction rate is just high
I don't really try to do it. I did try to take control of it but honestly most of the time it just happens on it's own. Whether I want it to or not. But I've learned to be less afraid of it. The older I get the more experiences I rack up though. Try looking into doing it naturally. I think we all have the ability, just need to exercise it. Helps to at least understand that it's real. Closed minded people will not access that part of ourselves IMHO.
Have you tried lucid dreaming? u/escapefromearth seems to be having some sort of sleep paralysis/lucid dreaming episode.
It’s happened to me a few times after days and days of constant shitty sleep schedule. For example, I’d sleep all afternoon, wake up to eat and the basics, then try to go back to sleep 2-3 hours after waking up and I’d have some crazy “out of body experiences”.
Craziest one yet, I “woke up” and knew my body was asleep, so I tried to wake myself up from within my dream. Used up all my “strength” to crawl to the other side of my room to turn the lights on and wake myself up. As soon as I flicked that switch, i woke up, still in bed, lights off.
Freaky shit lol. Got paranoid about sleeping during the evening after that and saved my full tired self til bedtime
Yea i have had some occasions where I am inside a dream and conscious of that fact that im dreaming. I try to get a full rest most nights now so havent done that in a while.
So I understand sleep paralysis is a thing and yes I do experience it. In fact, what you described is something I've unfortunately experienced many times. However, the other things I am describing are not sleep paralysis, and often do get blamed on it unfortunately, so people tend to not believe that OBE's actually exist. Believe me, they do. You can learn to do this. If you try to experience the beginning stages before you pop out, you will realize there's something real happen and it will allow you to become more open minded and successfully leave your body. I've had OBE's, Lucid Dreams, Prophetic Dreams, and have seen apparitions all since childhood. My only real theory as to why this has happened to me is that I may produce more than the normal amount of DMT in my brain which allows this. After I heard about people's dmt experiences, I realized that they were experiencing something similar (but not exactly the same) as what I've been going though. And since the chemical that allows this is produced naturally by the human body, it's a logical assumption that maybe that's why I've had these experiences without the use of drugs.
The human race has a very long way to go to fully understand these things, and the nature of our reality. There are layers upon layers of existence but we are only aware of what our senses translate for us and that's not enough to have a wide enough view.
Many of my lucid dreams are accompanied by a guide who is teaching me. I've had dreams that have come true exactly as I've dreamt them. They were meaningless nonsense that seemed it's only purpose was to show me it's possible and it's real. I'm sitting on a massive diary of dreams that I suspect are prophetic and their time has not come yet, I can only wait and see. I've always had these types of dreams. This is not sleep paralysis. But I can see how people would confuse it with that.
I believe that the physicality of our bodies and minds cannot hold that much knowledge, so we lose it as we come back to the body. Kind of like how you can't see everything underwater like a scuba diver and also be in a boat at the range time.
Yes! It was all way too much information for me to keep up with but the processing power and storage capacity were on full display for me in the moment. Everything made sense and I had all of the knowledge...i saw two ends of a time fuse go in a circle shape from bottom to top where the two ignited fuses reached each other and boom, all knowledge was lost.
There are evil entities that can attack when you are in an astral plane. You can demand to ask if they are emissaries from Jesus. They are bound to answer. Don't know if that helps.
Hm havent really felt attacked by evil per se but I will keep your advice in mind if that comes up. It was a disrupting signal sent to me is how I took it
My wife grandfather was a preacher who told me to "plead the blood of Jesus" when confronted by evil. I dont necessarily understand the meaning but I have found it to work when said with conviction.
Not often with dialog. But it happens through intense emotion. Dialog with God has only happened twice, both following moments of intense gratitude. Long interactions, spoken through my heart, but not in some cheesy poetic sort of way. In a literal way. The dialog is precise and intelligible, but I can't say it was verbal.
Satan mimics God extremely well, using similar, high-fidelity dialog. But you'll notice that your heart is not as active in the conversation. For me, lower body parts were more active. This is what made me ask, "Wait, how do I know you're God?" At the time, I didn't even know that this was what the Bible recommends doing. This was a major Bible proof for me and one of the major events that brought me to Christ.
Some spirits don't seem to use dialog at all, but can transfer ideas, symbols or visions without dialog. In general, spirits interact with you through parts of your body, but not your head. From the neck down.
Interesting your take on spirits. I vibe with your God/Satan dialog for sure and can thankfully attest. I dont know if I have identified any spirits other than past friends and relatives I have thought of. Thanks for your wisdom friend.
I cant say what happened to you it only happened once to me and that was some 40 years ago. It was like a female presence in the room, I could see my room and knew she was there and it scared the crap out of me. Suddenly this thing I couldnt see started trying to push me off my bed. I fought and fought to come back to normal and finally did. Had to get up in the middle of the night turn all the lights on and have a coffee. It seemed that real. A week later my husbands cousin Cheryl who was staying with us killed herself with a gun I had under my bed while my kids and I were out at the mall. She was in my room when she committed suicide and fell right where that women I couldnt see was trying to push me out of bed. Never happened again.
Your brother's experience sounds a lot like a "night hag":
The night hag or old hag is the name given to a supernatural creature, commonly associated with the phenomenon of sleep paralysis. It is a phenomenon during which a person feels a presence of a supernatural malevolent being which immobilizes the person as if sitting on their chest or the foot of their bed.
Sleep paralysis is a state, during waking up or falling asleep, in which a person is aware but unable to move or speak.[1][2] During an episode, one may hallucinate (hear, feel, or see things that are not there), which often results in fear.[1] Episodes generally last less than a couple of minutes.[2] It may recur or occur as a single episode.[1]
The condition may occur in those who are otherwise healthy or those with narcolepsy, or it may run in families as a result of specific genetic changes.[2] The condition can be triggered by sleep deprivation, psychological stress, or abnormal sleep cycles.[2] The underlying mechanism is believed to involve a dysfunction in REM sleep.[2] Sleep paralysis is commonly experienced by lucid dreamers; some lucid dreamers use this as a method of having a lucid dream.[3] Diagnosis is based on a person's description.[2] Other conditions that can present similarly include narcolepsy, atonic seizure, and hypokalemic periodic paralysis.[2]
I've had it happen twice myself. It can be pretty scary. When it happened to me, I was in bed and woke up. I thought I was awake, as I could see the window across from me in the room, but I couldn't move or breathe. I could see a shadowy form on my chest, that was weighting me down. I had this feeling of dread come over me, like this thing was evil. The really scary part was not being able to breathe. In my mind I commanded the thing to leave me in the name of Jesus. Instantly, I was able to breathe again.
The funny thing is, many years after this happened to me, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. I have to wonder now whether this was a beginning sign of it that I didn't recognize at the time.
I wonder if that was a soul that previously lived there? The music is interesting, do you remember the particular song? Pregnancy is already so crazy with a human growing and hormones on high. Did that entity visit you or your unborn child you think?
This is the classic sleep paralysis I've experienced, only the sounds I hear tend to be more of a crowd of voices so thick that I can't make out anything they are saying and the music I hear sounds old, like an old jazz bar from the 40's or something. And it all sounds like it's far away and the sound is drifting on the wind to me. Such a weird thing. I've had this happen only when I was sleeping on my side, not my back. So I think it's something to do with my ear pressing against the pillow, muffling sounds from the room fan, and my sleep paralysis brain filling in the rest. I hate the footsteps one though, and the actual feeling of being paralyzed. It's so terrifying.
I've read the same thing, as well. Your brain shuts down your movements while you sleep, otherwise you'd attempt to act out your dreams in real life. When this mechanism fails, you end up with sleep-walkers or sleep paralysis.
I’ve (luckily) never experienced hallucinations like that in any of my sleep paralysis episodes, but damn if being unable to move or say anything is terrifying.
I think you hit the nail on the head with sleep paralysis. I cant run from people in dreams and im also usually naked and sometimes have the teeth dream where my teeth fall out!
Wow.. and to have another person correlate the nightmare with you at the same time. I am sorry to hear about the death of your colleague but did you suspect foul play was involved, besides fraud? The bad guys like to clean up lose ends and maybe the universe was showing you the truth. I dont know much about dreams and nightmares but I am convinced that we commmunicate with higher powers when necessary. Thank you for sharing and I pray you find the answers regarding the words mentioned in your dream. They will pop into your head one day and you will say AHAH and look into it more for the final piece of closure needed. I declare it for you.
Wow talk about being close to the front lines. I hope you are healed from the incident and hey Im shooting you some positive energy to jog your memory for those words and their meaning to you.
Humans do it naturally. Usually unaware. Yea, interrupting or completely obstructing that ability has been high on their list of priorities for a long time. Change the number of channels that can potentially disrupt your oobe by changing the frequency you leave with. If you've already done that, maybe you're needed to get used to that type/intensity of energy for some reason? To go into and navigate through it when others around you can't take that amount yet. And still function.
If you have a hard time sending and receiving information in meditation, try using your solar plexus. Everything that's important for you specifically to know for the work you personally chose to do here is in you somewhere. Find that new point of communication and use it instead of the old ones. Only you know what you need to learn for your particular "mission" here.
I want to harness it for good.
You can't harness it for anything. It's the energy in everything, animating everything, beating everyone's hearts and yawning them when they need oxygen. It'll fuck you up in the end if you try to control it. Or in the beginning lol If you're feeling pulled toward energies that are too strong for you right now, oobe's are the perfect way to get used to Them.
When you experience that blockage again, stay as long as you can in the presence of it. Get closer each time until you're matched up with it. This could take several attempts over a while or one day. I don't know where you're at.
The closer you get, the more delineated your particular stream becomes. When you can, get into the stream. I don't really know how else to put that part.
Energy flows at different intensities and on different planes simultaneously. We are bits of that same energy, experiencing the streams we find the most pleasurable. We don't change the energy, we only let it flow or block it. We do get to pick what kind of stream we're in, though, by nature, nurture, or practice.
It seems like the ones who are drawn to the energy in all of this are maybe holding the frequency so more can feel it. Just by being in the right stream at the right time, you can create the pathway or bridge such that a large amount of energy can be delivered and dispursed in lieu of a mass clusterfuck.
But again, everyone's experience is different and there are many unique people with unique missions here on this board, the most interesting of which have been undercover so to speak, even from themselves lol
Wow what a response. I went to an ancient Indian mound where this experience occured within minutes of me arriving. Across the street a freemason building. I have never ever been interrupted like this and still not sure what force was at hand there. Is the energy usually neutral or can it be negatively/positively charged?
"It seems like the ones who are drawn to the energy in all of this are maybe holding the frequency so more can feel it. Just by being in the right stream at the right time, you can create the pathway or bridge such that a large amount of energy can be delivered and dispursed in lieu of a mass clusterfuck."
This is what Im leaning towards. It felt like my tapping into the frequencies there were interrupted and dispersed accordingly. Are there any particular places or items that I can include to assist? I havent felt this way around say relics in D.C. Maybe the indian mound people knew the key to unlocking the astral plane and the freemasons are fruitlessly trying to copy it? Their energy in making the mound must have been insanely high as it took a ton of time to construct by hand with shells and artifcts etc. I have dabbled with crystals and have felt similar energies but nothing like this place.
About the mission. My mission is very simple yet vague. Guardian. I have known this term since I was young and my only focus/wish for the past 20 years what for a powerful entity to save us from evil. Looking up at the stars and praying for help without knowing of the troubles we were truely in at the time.
You have a lot of knowledge that I am looking to immerse myself in. Thank you for sharing the wisdom and I hope to pass it on to someone when they are ready.
I hope I didnt ramble but its 5am and this post has energized me.
About the mission. My mission is very simple yet vague. Guardian. I have known this term since I was young and my only focus/wish for the past 20 years what for a powerful entity to save us from evil. Looking up at the stars and praying for help without knowing of the troubles we were truely in at the time.
It's cool to know YOU are that powerful entity! You and others that took that on. Guardians are formidable and usually have a deep connection with the earth, in my experience. And like you, don't fear things they don't know.
Is the energy usually neutral or can it be negatively/positively charged?
It feels like what we would call charged but I've noticed that I'm naturally drawn to whatever energies I'm "supposed to" be communicating with, negative or positive. One thing to remember is the energies can never overtake you or address you in any way that you are not allowing. You are the one controlling your interaction with other (for lack of a better word) energies. All the time.
...this post has energized me.
Same. Thank you for sharing your story. So freaking cool to see other energy fiends here haha we're all being drawn together for this moment in time!
Maybe it's just me, but I'm quite confused in what you're experiencing?? When I think of someone 'leaving their body' they're in some way not alive at that moment....kinda the description of someone when they died and were brought back to life, they felt like they left their body. This doesn't sound like the same description. Perhaps there's another way to describe what you felt/mean, because at this point I don't understand.
Out of body experiences are very real, just very rare. We are not our bodies but something else that temporarily is attached to our solid body. Some people say we are actually a soul. Some people refer to it as an ethereal body or an astral body. But there is another plane of existence, a reality layered on top of ours that we can travel to if we exit our physical body. You can learn to do this. For some people, like me, it just spontaneously happens on its own, but learning to control it seems to come faster than for those who have never had it happen spontaneously. I'm in my mid 40's and I've experienced strange things since childhood that include OBE's, but other weird things too. In recent years I've heard people talk about dmt experiences, and what they describe, as far as when they are having a "breakthrough" or whatever they call it, is very similar to a natural obe experience. There is a tingling sensation all over the body that gets so strong it's almost unbearable. Many people can't get past that state while attempting an OBE because it's such a strong physical sensation that it can be scary, but if you can get past it you then here the strong ringing sound and then you start to pull yourself out, and I do mean PULL, it's not easy, but if you pull hard enough you will POP out. Dmt users describe the tingling and the ringing then they believe they are traveling to another plane. I don't think the plane they go to is the same one I do during an OBE, but I see that the process of traveling is very similar based on how they have described it, and compared to my own and others' experiences with OBE's. Now that I know about DMT, I feel like I have a possible answer to my strange experiences. We produce dmt in our brains, and I think I produce a larger than normal amount which may be why I've been able to see the things I have. That's just my theory though. I don't really have any other explanation.
Holy shit. The tingling I’ve felt is almost the same as when my legs go numb, but the ringing, sounds almost like a million cicadas all around you, terrifying for sure.
I know exactly what you mean by pulling yourself from your body, I’ve described it in another comment in this thread, but on another occasion I raised my arm as high as I could with all my strength and dropped it on my face to wake up. It worked, but my actual arm had never moved. Crazy to know other people have had the EXACT same experiences as me. I’ve never actually been beyond that, I’ve always tried to wake myself up when I get to that point.
Yea i feel a lift of my "spirit" from the body. When you die you feel a pull towards the "light". Its welcoming and warm. I usually can ride the feeling like a wave and it lasts a few seconds. This time it was broken up by an outside source. Hope this helps but I understand if I am not making sense.
After death, that bright light may not be who you think it is (ever seen the movie "Soul?"). Ask who it is, even if you think it's God letting you into Heaven. Real God won't be offended.
Apart from being told to get to know Christ, this is likely the most important piece of advice anyone can receive. Try to feel how important this could be. Spend a few minutes with this thought. Charge it with emotion so that you'll remember it.
I havent seen that movie..the kids music one? I will definitely keep in mind to ask if its God. I have read theories of people going to the wrong light and their soul reincarnating elsewhere. I will try to use discernment but I feel like the death sensation and travel to the light are kinda automatic at some point, especially when you are humming and floating up.
The body? I was parked in my car outside an indian mound. I just feel like I leave a few inches above my body and then bounce back less than a few seconds later.
I was only able to do it one time almost 50 years ago. I was a teenager doing head to toe meditation when I could see myself sitting at the foot of my bed looking at the prone (meditating) self. It was like I could see both points of view simultaneously, then I was back in my body within seconds. If only I could do it again!
Yes, but I believe inducing it is a process you have to kind of learn OR can occur to you randomly. I’ve read about people saying meditations work, but who knows.
Im going to agree to disagree with you but I appreciate the feedback. This is the Great Awakening, and it has many many faces. The lovely anons here have given me so much knowledge to push this ship forward and continue my inner awakening so I am thankful for that.
"Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Q"
From 4463.
This is a spiritual war. This discussion is regarding that war. Next time I will make a clear connection in my title to keep you guys content and to keep us all on track.
Or salvia. But reading salvia trip report terrifies me away lol. I can’t even begin to imagine what living an entire “life” as a beach ball would even feel like.
One trip report I read a long time ago said dude felt like a raindrop, got dropped from a cloud, fell on an umbrella or tarp or something, don’t remember anymore, but said as soon as he touched that surface, he was stuck as the umbrella for whatever amount of time.
The thought of taking an insane trip in 15 minutes doesn’t scare me as much as feeling like I’m stuck as an inanimate object for… a lifetime, even if it is only 15 minutes in the real world.
Salvia is hellish. Do not recommend. DMT is very inner-eye opening. But drugs are not the right way to come up. Come up the natural way. Through the Christ who lives in each and every person on earth today, whether they're Christian or not.
Hi. Yes I can do this, though not expertly. I've only experienced it a few times.
I can't explain your experience because I can't even explain my own. But I can share some of my weirdest ones.
I was interrupted just as I was about to pop out and there was a massive eyeball on my ceiling looking down on me and it "felt" like it was me somewhere else looking back at the me here on this plane.
Another time I was interrupted and saw a demon-looking thing vomiting in my bed. (Oh and after I saw that my daughter who was in my bed suddenly sat up and puked, so yeah you could say I was freaked because I know this wierd shit happens to me but stay the F away from my kids.)
And my very first OBE i became conscious while OOB and found myself floating up against my ceiling then felt myself drift back down and go back into my body. Strange things happen to me and I have basically no one to talk to because it seems to rarely happen to others.
Oh and the best experience ever took me off planet to learn the meaning of life, too much to type here though.
Man yours seem very vivid compared to mine. Almost a bit like Constantine there. That last one sounds like a dmt trip hah.
Looking down at myself from a 3rd person perspective has happened but this is more of a physical feeling for me.
I have been given all of the answers to life only to have them stripped away within seconds from me. Crazy shit
That's exactly what happened to me too. I was told I would not be allowed to remember what I learned, only that I was there and was shown and I got to remember how it felt when all was revealed. So while I don't remember exactly what I was shown, I do remember laughing out loud and saying:
"we worry so much and for what, for nothing, everything is happening exactly as it should, everything is going to be fine, why do we waste our time worrying so much?"
That memory stayed with me. I wish I could remember what I saw that gave me that crazy reaction lol. But I at least have some comfort knowing that whatever it is made me believe we all have nothing to worry about. Just enjoy this life while you are here.
How old are you? You could be early on your journey. I'm in my mid 40's and this started spontaneously for me in childhood. Along with lucid dreams, prophetic dreams, and other things.
35..my knowledge quests have usually been drug induced so props to you for uncovering those truths without. Are you still active on the journey? I prophesize somewhat but I think my law of attraction rate is just high
I don't really try to do it. I did try to take control of it but honestly most of the time it just happens on it's own. Whether I want it to or not. But I've learned to be less afraid of it. The older I get the more experiences I rack up though. Try looking into doing it naturally. I think we all have the ability, just need to exercise it. Helps to at least understand that it's real. Closed minded people will not access that part of ourselves IMHO.
Have you tried lucid dreaming? u/escapefromearth seems to be having some sort of sleep paralysis/lucid dreaming episode.
It’s happened to me a few times after days and days of constant shitty sleep schedule. For example, I’d sleep all afternoon, wake up to eat and the basics, then try to go back to sleep 2-3 hours after waking up and I’d have some crazy “out of body experiences”. Craziest one yet, I “woke up” and knew my body was asleep, so I tried to wake myself up from within my dream. Used up all my “strength” to crawl to the other side of my room to turn the lights on and wake myself up. As soon as I flicked that switch, i woke up, still in bed, lights off.
Freaky shit lol. Got paranoid about sleeping during the evening after that and saved my full tired self til bedtime
Yea i have had some occasions where I am inside a dream and conscious of that fact that im dreaming. I try to get a full rest most nights now so havent done that in a while.
So I understand sleep paralysis is a thing and yes I do experience it. In fact, what you described is something I've unfortunately experienced many times. However, the other things I am describing are not sleep paralysis, and often do get blamed on it unfortunately, so people tend to not believe that OBE's actually exist. Believe me, they do. You can learn to do this. If you try to experience the beginning stages before you pop out, you will realize there's something real happen and it will allow you to become more open minded and successfully leave your body. I've had OBE's, Lucid Dreams, Prophetic Dreams, and have seen apparitions all since childhood. My only real theory as to why this has happened to me is that I may produce more than the normal amount of DMT in my brain which allows this. After I heard about people's dmt experiences, I realized that they were experiencing something similar (but not exactly the same) as what I've been going though. And since the chemical that allows this is produced naturally by the human body, it's a logical assumption that maybe that's why I've had these experiences without the use of drugs.
The human race has a very long way to go to fully understand these things, and the nature of our reality. There are layers upon layers of existence but we are only aware of what our senses translate for us and that's not enough to have a wide enough view.
Many of my lucid dreams are accompanied by a guide who is teaching me. I've had dreams that have come true exactly as I've dreamt them. They were meaningless nonsense that seemed it's only purpose was to show me it's possible and it's real. I'm sitting on a massive diary of dreams that I suspect are prophetic and their time has not come yet, I can only wait and see. I've always had these types of dreams. This is not sleep paralysis. But I can see how people would confuse it with that.
I believe that the physicality of our bodies and minds cannot hold that much knowledge, so we lose it as we come back to the body. Kind of like how you can't see everything underwater like a scuba diver and also be in a boat at the range time.
Yes! It was all way too much information for me to keep up with but the processing power and storage capacity were on full display for me in the moment. Everything made sense and I had all of the knowledge...i saw two ends of a time fuse go in a circle shape from bottom to top where the two ignited fuses reached each other and boom, all knowledge was lost.
Wow. That's quite an image.
There are evil entities that can attack when you are in an astral plane. You can demand to ask if they are emissaries from Jesus. They are bound to answer. Don't know if that helps.
Hm havent really felt attacked by evil per se but I will keep your advice in mind if that comes up. It was a disrupting signal sent to me is how I took it
My wife grandfather was a preacher who told me to "plead the blood of Jesus" when confronted by evil. I dont necessarily understand the meaning but I have found it to work when said with conviction.
They all bow to the same God in the end woop.
Yes, I believe that.
Ask any spirit, "who is Lord?" They will tell you Jesus Christ, even if they were just pretending to be God.
Thats incredible to receive those confirmations. You run into spirits often? I feel the presence of people but no direct interactions with dialog.
Not often with dialog. But it happens through intense emotion. Dialog with God has only happened twice, both following moments of intense gratitude. Long interactions, spoken through my heart, but not in some cheesy poetic sort of way. In a literal way. The dialog is precise and intelligible, but I can't say it was verbal.
Satan mimics God extremely well, using similar, high-fidelity dialog. But you'll notice that your heart is not as active in the conversation. For me, lower body parts were more active. This is what made me ask, "Wait, how do I know you're God?" At the time, I didn't even know that this was what the Bible recommends doing. This was a major Bible proof for me and one of the major events that brought me to Christ.
Some spirits don't seem to use dialog at all, but can transfer ideas, symbols or visions without dialog. In general, spirits interact with you through parts of your body, but not your head. From the neck down.
Interesting your take on spirits. I vibe with your God/Satan dialog for sure and can thankfully attest. I dont know if I have identified any spirits other than past friends and relatives I have thought of. Thanks for your wisdom friend.
I cant say what happened to you it only happened once to me and that was some 40 years ago. It was like a female presence in the room, I could see my room and knew she was there and it scared the crap out of me. Suddenly this thing I couldnt see started trying to push me off my bed. I fought and fought to come back to normal and finally did. Had to get up in the middle of the night turn all the lights on and have a coffee. It seemed that real. A week later my husbands cousin Cheryl who was staying with us killed herself with a gun I had under my bed while my kids and I were out at the mall. She was in my room when she committed suicide and fell right where that women I couldnt see was trying to push me out of bed. Never happened again.
My brother had an incident like this I think it was a ghost like lady who attacked him in his half asleep half awake state.
Jesus I am so sorry about the suicide, I hope you all have recovered from that and I pray for Cheryl's spirit and family.
Im not so sure this was the same but I definitely can feel a "presence" in some places. Thank you so much for your input!
Your brother's experience sounds a lot like a "night hag":
The night hag or old hag is the name given to a supernatural creature, commonly associated with the phenomenon of sleep paralysis. It is a phenomenon during which a person feels a presence of a supernatural malevolent being which immobilizes the person as if sitting on their chest or the foot of their bed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_hag
Sleep paralysis is a state, during waking up or falling asleep, in which a person is aware but unable to move or speak.[1][2] During an episode, one may hallucinate (hear, feel, or see things that are not there), which often results in fear.[1] Episodes generally last less than a couple of minutes.[2] It may recur or occur as a single episode.[1]
The condition may occur in those who are otherwise healthy or those with narcolepsy, or it may run in families as a result of specific genetic changes.[2] The condition can be triggered by sleep deprivation, psychological stress, or abnormal sleep cycles.[2] The underlying mechanism is believed to involve a dysfunction in REM sleep.[2] Sleep paralysis is commonly experienced by lucid dreamers; some lucid dreamers use this as a method of having a lucid dream.[3] Diagnosis is based on a person's description.[2] Other conditions that can present similarly include narcolepsy, atonic seizure, and hypokalemic periodic paralysis.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis
Ah yes thats right, lucid dreaming! Thank you for the info I have to share with him
You're welcome, fren!
I've had it happen twice myself. It can be pretty scary. When it happened to me, I was in bed and woke up. I thought I was awake, as I could see the window across from me in the room, but I couldn't move or breathe. I could see a shadowy form on my chest, that was weighting me down. I had this feeling of dread come over me, like this thing was evil. The really scary part was not being able to breathe. In my mind I commanded the thing to leave me in the name of Jesus. Instantly, I was able to breathe again.
The funny thing is, many years after this happened to me, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. I have to wonder now whether this was a beginning sign of it that I didn't recognize at the time.
I wonder if that was a soul that previously lived there? The music is interesting, do you remember the particular song? Pregnancy is already so crazy with a human growing and hormones on high. Did that entity visit you or your unborn child you think?
Thanks for sharing.
This is the classic sleep paralysis I've experienced, only the sounds I hear tend to be more of a crowd of voices so thick that I can't make out anything they are saying and the music I hear sounds old, like an old jazz bar from the 40's or something. And it all sounds like it's far away and the sound is drifting on the wind to me. Such a weird thing. I've had this happen only when I was sleeping on my side, not my back. So I think it's something to do with my ear pressing against the pillow, muffling sounds from the room fan, and my sleep paralysis brain filling in the rest. I hate the footsteps one though, and the actual feeling of being paralyzed. It's so terrifying.
I've read the same thing, as well. Your brain shuts down your movements while you sleep, otherwise you'd attempt to act out your dreams in real life. When this mechanism fails, you end up with sleep-walkers or sleep paralysis.
I’ve (luckily) never experienced hallucinations like that in any of my sleep paralysis episodes, but damn if being unable to move or say anything is terrifying.
I think you hit the nail on the head with sleep paralysis. I cant run from people in dreams and im also usually naked and sometimes have the teeth dream where my teeth fall out!
Wow.. and to have another person correlate the nightmare with you at the same time. I am sorry to hear about the death of your colleague but did you suspect foul play was involved, besides fraud? The bad guys like to clean up lose ends and maybe the universe was showing you the truth. I dont know much about dreams and nightmares but I am convinced that we commmunicate with higher powers when necessary. Thank you for sharing and I pray you find the answers regarding the words mentioned in your dream. They will pop into your head one day and you will say AHAH and look into it more for the final piece of closure needed. I declare it for you.
Wow talk about being close to the front lines. I hope you are healed from the incident and hey Im shooting you some positive energy to jog your memory for those words and their meaning to you.
Seek a good kundalini teacher. I can also provide you material
Ty fren
Please dm or post here I have heard of that but never really looked into it. I just want to have a greater impact around me
Humans do it naturally. Usually unaware. Yea, interrupting or completely obstructing that ability has been high on their list of priorities for a long time. Change the number of channels that can potentially disrupt your oobe by changing the frequency you leave with. If you've already done that, maybe you're needed to get used to that type/intensity of energy for some reason? To go into and navigate through it when others around you can't take that amount yet. And still function.
Please tell me more. Where can I learn more on this ? I want to harness it for good.
Where can I learn more on this ?
If you have a hard time sending and receiving information in meditation, try using your solar plexus. Everything that's important for you specifically to know for the work you personally chose to do here is in you somewhere. Find that new point of communication and use it instead of the old ones. Only you know what you need to learn for your particular "mission" here.
I want to harness it for good.
You can't harness it for anything. It's the energy in everything, animating everything, beating everyone's hearts and yawning them when they need oxygen. It'll fuck you up in the end if you try to control it. Or in the beginning lol If you're feeling pulled toward energies that are too strong for you right now, oobe's are the perfect way to get used to Them.
When you experience that blockage again, stay as long as you can in the presence of it. Get closer each time until you're matched up with it. This could take several attempts over a while or one day. I don't know where you're at.
The closer you get, the more delineated your particular stream becomes. When you can, get into the stream. I don't really know how else to put that part.
Energy flows at different intensities and on different planes simultaneously. We are bits of that same energy, experiencing the streams we find the most pleasurable. We don't change the energy, we only let it flow or block it. We do get to pick what kind of stream we're in, though, by nature, nurture, or practice.
It seems like the ones who are drawn to the energy in all of this are maybe holding the frequency so more can feel it. Just by being in the right stream at the right time, you can create the pathway or bridge such that a large amount of energy can be delivered and dispursed in lieu of a mass clusterfuck.
But again, everyone's experience is different and there are many unique people with unique missions here on this board, the most interesting of which have been undercover so to speak, even from themselves lol
Wow what a response. I went to an ancient Indian mound where this experience occured within minutes of me arriving. Across the street a freemason building. I have never ever been interrupted like this and still not sure what force was at hand there. Is the energy usually neutral or can it be negatively/positively charged?
"It seems like the ones who are drawn to the energy in all of this are maybe holding the frequency so more can feel it. Just by being in the right stream at the right time, you can create the pathway or bridge such that a large amount of energy can be delivered and dispursed in lieu of a mass clusterfuck."
This is what Im leaning towards. It felt like my tapping into the frequencies there were interrupted and dispersed accordingly. Are there any particular places or items that I can include to assist? I havent felt this way around say relics in D.C. Maybe the indian mound people knew the key to unlocking the astral plane and the freemasons are fruitlessly trying to copy it? Their energy in making the mound must have been insanely high as it took a ton of time to construct by hand with shells and artifcts etc. I have dabbled with crystals and have felt similar energies but nothing like this place.
About the mission. My mission is very simple yet vague. Guardian. I have known this term since I was young and my only focus/wish for the past 20 years what for a powerful entity to save us from evil. Looking up at the stars and praying for help without knowing of the troubles we were truely in at the time.
You have a lot of knowledge that I am looking to immerse myself in. Thank you for sharing the wisdom and I hope to pass it on to someone when they are ready.
I hope I didnt ramble but its 5am and this post has energized me.
About the mission. My mission is very simple yet vague. Guardian. I have known this term since I was young and my only focus/wish for the past 20 years what for a powerful entity to save us from evil. Looking up at the stars and praying for help without knowing of the troubles we were truely in at the time.
It's cool to know YOU are that powerful entity! You and others that took that on. Guardians are formidable and usually have a deep connection with the earth, in my experience. And like you, don't fear things they don't know.
Is the energy usually neutral or can it be negatively/positively charged?
It feels like what we would call charged but I've noticed that I'm naturally drawn to whatever energies I'm "supposed to" be communicating with, negative or positive. One thing to remember is the energies can never overtake you or address you in any way that you are not allowing. You are the one controlling your interaction with other (for lack of a better word) energies. All the time.
...this post has energized me.
Same. Thank you for sharing your story. So freaking cool to see other energy fiends here haha we're all being drawn together for this moment in time!
Read about Astral Projection.
Read about it in the 70’s. Never worked for me.
I suspect lucid dreaming….
I was next to an Indian mound when it happened so I think you may be onto something.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm quite confused in what you're experiencing?? When I think of someone 'leaving their body' they're in some way not alive at that moment....kinda the description of someone when they died and were brought back to life, they felt like they left their body. This doesn't sound like the same description. Perhaps there's another way to describe what you felt/mean, because at this point I don't understand.
Out of body experiences are very real, just very rare. We are not our bodies but something else that temporarily is attached to our solid body. Some people say we are actually a soul. Some people refer to it as an ethereal body or an astral body. But there is another plane of existence, a reality layered on top of ours that we can travel to if we exit our physical body. You can learn to do this. For some people, like me, it just spontaneously happens on its own, but learning to control it seems to come faster than for those who have never had it happen spontaneously. I'm in my mid 40's and I've experienced strange things since childhood that include OBE's, but other weird things too. In recent years I've heard people talk about dmt experiences, and what they describe, as far as when they are having a "breakthrough" or whatever they call it, is very similar to a natural obe experience. There is a tingling sensation all over the body that gets so strong it's almost unbearable. Many people can't get past that state while attempting an OBE because it's such a strong physical sensation that it can be scary, but if you can get past it you then here the strong ringing sound and then you start to pull yourself out, and I do mean PULL, it's not easy, but if you pull hard enough you will POP out. Dmt users describe the tingling and the ringing then they believe they are traveling to another plane. I don't think the plane they go to is the same one I do during an OBE, but I see that the process of traveling is very similar based on how they have described it, and compared to my own and others' experiences with OBE's. Now that I know about DMT, I feel like I have a possible answer to my strange experiences. We produce dmt in our brains, and I think I produce a larger than normal amount which may be why I've been able to see the things I have. That's just my theory though. I don't really have any other explanation.
That tingling sensation you described so well is it! It was being disrupted by an outside source. I have never been interrupted ever when channeling.
Holy shit. The tingling I’ve felt is almost the same as when my legs go numb, but the ringing, sounds almost like a million cicadas all around you, terrifying for sure.
I know exactly what you mean by pulling yourself from your body, I’ve described it in another comment in this thread, but on another occasion I raised my arm as high as I could with all my strength and dropped it on my face to wake up. It worked, but my actual arm had never moved. Crazy to know other people have had the EXACT same experiences as me. I’ve never actually been beyond that, I’ve always tried to wake myself up when I get to that point.
Keep going, experience the pop! It's amazing we can even do these things and we should explore them. It seems to be part of our nature.
I agree! I wanna know experience it again, but it’s hard not to panic in the moment haha!
Yea i feel a lift of my "spirit" from the body. When you die you feel a pull towards the "light". Its welcoming and warm. I usually can ride the feeling like a wave and it lasts a few seconds. This time it was broken up by an outside source. Hope this helps but I understand if I am not making sense.
In..sane… cool. I love this and most could only hope for this. You are connected to something. Enjoy the ride!
I am enjoying for sure I just hope Im not playing with fire and can explain it all some day
Well we have your back.. prayer power.. let us know. Intrigued for sure. 🤘🏻
This comments means more to me than you know. Thank you friend.
After death, that bright light may not be who you think it is (ever seen the movie "Soul?"). Ask who it is, even if you think it's God letting you into Heaven. Real God won't be offended.
Apart from being told to get to know Christ, this is likely the most important piece of advice anyone can receive. Try to feel how important this could be. Spend a few minutes with this thought. Charge it with emotion so that you'll remember it.
I havent seen that movie..the kids music one? I will definitely keep in mind to ask if its God. I have read theories of people going to the wrong light and their soul reincarnating elsewhere. I will try to use discernment but I feel like the death sensation and travel to the light are kinda automatic at some point, especially when you are humming and floating up.
Consider that you don't actually see light. You see objects due to their luster. Who masquerades as a spirit of light? Who's in charge of lust?
"And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."
Which of the following requires faith? Going into the dark unknown, or going into the well-lit path before you?
Interesting perspective for sure. I will travel whatever path before me and not get recycled by a lightbringer.
Did you forget where you parked it?
The body? I was parked in my car outside an indian mound. I just feel like I leave a few inches above my body and then bounce back less than a few seconds later.
I was only able to do it one time almost 50 years ago. I was a teenager doing head to toe meditation when I could see myself sitting at the foot of my bed looking at the prone (meditating) self. It was like I could see both points of view simultaneously, then I was back in my body within seconds. If only I could do it again!
You are lucky in that you achieved that perspective naturally. Me not so much but ill look into the prone meditating haha
I have experienced with and without.. it involves breathing
I have had this happen a few times in my life. No drugs.
You can learn to do this. No drugs needed. And I don't think it would be quite the same thing anyway.
Yes, but I believe inducing it is a process you have to kind of learn OR can occur to you randomly. I’ve read about people saying meditations work, but who knows.
I have had something like this when I do deep hz meditation.
Its a vibrating feeling inside for sure. Ill have to look into the deep hz stuff
It really helps to calm the mind. Give it a shot.
There are the old ways of gaining understanding, and there is the correct way for the people of our era. Be careful who you trust.
https://www.youtube.com/c/RudolfSteinerPressAudio
Thank you will give it a watch
Very interesting thread but does not belong here. Feel free to post it in the general chat which is the place for discussing stuff like this.
The Great Awakening will be Biblical.
Need more people like you around here.. this is 100% related to Great Awakening.
Yes, the highest levels of the great awakening. The one million ft view.
Im going to agree to disagree with you but I appreciate the feedback. This is the Great Awakening, and it has many many faces. The lovely anons here have given me so much knowledge to push this ship forward and continue my inner awakening so I am thankful for that.
It's not really about agreeing or disagreeing. Its the sidebar.
I respect you as a mod but here I can play too:
"Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Q" From 4463.
This is a spiritual war. This discussion is regarding that war. Next time I will make a clear connection in my title to keep you guys content and to keep us all on track.
Through your earlobes, but only if you had pancakes for lunch.
Answers like this are definitely expected...but thanks for reading.
Looking for answers to shit that no one talks about is fun.
Or salvia. But reading salvia trip report terrifies me away lol. I can’t even begin to imagine what living an entire “life” as a beach ball would even feel like. One trip report I read a long time ago said dude felt like a raindrop, got dropped from a cloud, fell on an umbrella or tarp or something, don’t remember anymore, but said as soon as he touched that surface, he was stuck as the umbrella for whatever amount of time. The thought of taking an insane trip in 15 minutes doesn’t scare me as much as feeling like I’m stuck as an inanimate object for… a lifetime, even if it is only 15 minutes in the real world.
So +1 for DMT lol
Salvia is hellish. Do not recommend. DMT is very inner-eye opening. But drugs are not the right way to come up. Come up the natural way. Through the Christ who lives in each and every person on earth today, whether they're Christian or not.