In confused by the 16th amendment then, what does this mean if not that they can tax income? "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
Technically, "income" means "profit." With regards to the 16th amendment, only a corporation (a "legal entity" or "legal fiction" AKA not a natural person) can accumulate profit. A person engaged in trade, AKA a "like kind exchange," which includes the exchange of labor for other goods and services does not include any profit.
When you get into the exchange of money however (Federal Reserve Notes), things get a little more tricky. Exchanging FRNs for labor is not a like kind exchange because money has no value, on the contrary, it is a note of debt. It is kinda like negative value. Labor on the other hand has positive value. Exchanging something with negative value for something with positive value is not a "fair" exchange, and thus has different rules. Those rules (called the Tax Code) are up to the corporation that owns that "money" (the Federal Reserve). Or more specifically, their agency that makes all those rules, the private organization called the IRS. They dictate the rules of money. The Tax Code and Federal Law (illegally created, but "law" nonetheless) are sometimes congruent, but not always.
I think the way they manage it is because there may be a corporation, a trust, that is created in your name, through Social Security, and that is what is taxed. You are not subject to paying "income taxes" but the corporation, that has the same name as you, is. And you, as a signatory to your Social Security Number (or Taxpayer Identification Number) are legally bound to pay the taxes for that corporation.
I still need to figure out exactly how this is accomplished, but I think that is how it works.
Interesting thoughts. However, when you sign on behalf of a corporation, or entity other than yourself, you include your title so as to designate you are acting on behalf of the entity. For example, you would include president, treasurer, director, member, manager, etc.
If you sign just your name, that means you and not an entity.
Since none of us know if some other entity exists to represent us, it would be a clear violation of contract law and any of these contracts would be non-binding.
You can't be a party to a contract if you never legally agreed to be a party to a contract.
If that wasn't the case, I could sign anyone's name on a loan and make them pay it for me. While that might be nice, it's not going to happen. 😉
Seems on point to me. All connected to legal name fraud. Birth certificate fraud. Accepting the corporate entity as yourself verbally and/or in writing.
In confused by the 16th amendment then, what does this mean if not that they can tax income? "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
That amendment was NEVER properly or lawfully ratified. It is as fraudulent as the last handful of elections.
Income tax and IRS are unconstitutional and always will be.
No inheritance tax either. My kids shouldn’t have to lose out on my sacrifice because Uncle Sam wants to double dip.
Allof the. are unconstitutional. Government can only tax commerce.
In confused by the 16th amendment then, what does this mean if not that they can tax income? "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
Abolish the 16th!!!!! It is theft!!!
Technically, "income" means "profit." With regards to the 16th amendment, only a corporation (a "legal entity" or "legal fiction" AKA not a natural person) can accumulate profit. A person engaged in trade, AKA a "like kind exchange," which includes the exchange of labor for other goods and services does not include any profit.
When you get into the exchange of money however (Federal Reserve Notes), things get a little more tricky. Exchanging FRNs for labor is not a like kind exchange because money has no value, on the contrary, it is a note of debt. It is kinda like negative value. Labor on the other hand has positive value. Exchanging something with negative value for something with positive value is not a "fair" exchange, and thus has different rules. Those rules (called the Tax Code) are up to the corporation that owns that "money" (the Federal Reserve). Or more specifically, their agency that makes all those rules, the private organization called the IRS. They dictate the rules of money. The Tax Code and Federal Law (illegally created, but "law" nonetheless) are sometimes congruent, but not always.
I think the way they manage it is because there may be a corporation, a trust, that is created in your name, through Social Security, and that is what is taxed. You are not subject to paying "income taxes" but the corporation, that has the same name as you, is. And you, as a signatory to your Social Security Number (or Taxpayer Identification Number) are legally bound to pay the taxes for that corporation.
I still need to figure out exactly how this is accomplished, but I think that is how it works.
Interesting thoughts. However, when you sign on behalf of a corporation, or entity other than yourself, you include your title so as to designate you are acting on behalf of the entity. For example, you would include president, treasurer, director, member, manager, etc.
If you sign just your name, that means you and not an entity.
Since none of us know if some other entity exists to represent us, it would be a clear violation of contract law and any of these contracts would be non-binding.
You can't be a party to a contract if you never legally agreed to be a party to a contract.
If that wasn't the case, I could sign anyone's name on a loan and make them pay it for me. While that might be nice, it's not going to happen. 😉
Seems on point to me. All connected to legal name fraud. Birth certificate fraud. Accepting the corporate entity as yourself verbally and/or in writing.
That amendment was NEVER properly or lawfully ratified. It is as fraudulent as the last handful of elections.
Income tax and IRS are unconstitutional and always will be.
It was forcefully ratified.
And man this is a good thread!!! Lots of good info in here!!!
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And capital gains and gambling tax
They'll pass that after the die off.