You know an easy way to tell if a conspiracy theory is clown-approved bullshit? When it's tolerated on YouTube but discussing the efficacy of masks and mRNA or election fraud gets you banned.
Think how easy it would be to fake a moon mission when you have to replicate one on earth for training purposes.
If the Apolo Mission were authentic, we would not have spent the last fifty years flying no higher than five hundred miles off the surface of earth. If we could go 238,000 miles out and back in the age of transistor radios and tube TVs, we would have done something similar in the ensuing decades.
With all due respect, that's an incredibly ignorant take. The only reason to go into space is to get into orbit. Putting something into orbit is only possible or useful or feasible once you are fully outside of the Earth's atmosphere. That's it. That happens to be about 220 MI hi, just a few hours drive if you could drive straight up. That's it. There's no reason to be at 250 miles or 300 miles. The further you go, the less useful your satellite is because it's farther and farther away from earth. You're just wasting fuel. It doesn't really matter if the moon is $238,000 MI away, once you get out of Earth's orbit, you can float for as long as you've got food and water in the capsule, basically. There's no such thing as distance in space, there's only duration in terms of floating to your next objective.
It is absurd to accept that we went from having no manned space program at all in 1959, to putting men on the Moon a scant ten years later, when you consider that that we have done nothing but occupy low earth orbit for the last fifty years.
The whole manned space program from Mercury to Gemini to Skylab and the Space Shuttle right up to current times makes perfect sense as a timeline of technological progress if you eliminate that magical Walt Disney-esque episode where we supposedly went to the moon.
It is also absurd that the astronauts who allegedly walked on the moon took a dune buggy and even a golf ball and club but never a telescope.
Personal Incredulity. That's the logical fallacy you have. What, it couldn't be done in 10 years, with billions of dollars and the weight of the largest program since the Manhattan Project? That's absurd. The march of the space program is so incredibly well documented that you literally have to be an ignorant moron to think it was all fake. The Manhattan Project lasted from 1942 to 1945, taking approximately 3 years from start to finish. They SPLIT THE ATOM that fast??!? It's absurd to believe they made TWO atomic bombs, when in 1935 they had NO NUCLEAR PROGRAM!
Your logic, not mine. The bombs were CGI! Fake! Right?
You don't understand rockets. It's not about going to the moon, then colonizing the moon, or whatever. Every project has to have a payoff. For NASA and the USA, it was beating the USSR to the moon. Think of it this way: Once we got there, what else is there to do on the moon but golf?
You have to view the Apollo missions in terms of these phases:
Apollo 11 was primarily focused on landing on the moon and demonstrating the capabilities of the spacecraft and the crew, with limited scientific experiments.
By the time of Apollo 17, the focus had shifted towards more comprehensive scientific study of the moon, with the mission being heavily focused on geology. The crew was equipped with a suite of instruments and tools for conducting experiments and collecting samples.
In addition to geology, the later missions also expanded the scope of scientific study to include areas such as geophysics, geochemistry, and solar wind. The Apollo missions provided valuable data and samples that helped expand our understanding of the moon and the solar system.
In some ways, the science was just getting started when they cancelled the program, but by then, the public was bored and the missions weren't getting headlines.
Economics took over. That's why they focused on low earth orbit. Why? Because the black budgets took over and space became about spying. And that's why space is resurging. ECONOMICS have finally taken over where space can be commercialized. That's what Starlink is, for instance.. We're no longer being driven and controlled by your supposed space Communists at NASA.
So now that we are ending our research on the ISS and moving to build our new space station around the moon (which will take more fuel but give us more valuable research for deep space travel), what will the new narrative be?
"Oh well if the moon landings were real then how come it took us 50 years to build a moon space station?"
Also, since we are sending people back to the moon in this decade, does the 20's not count as an ensuing decade?
I feel pity for those who believe the earth is flat. We've been lied to so much that these people have completely lost touch with reality and don't have the intelligence to discern truth.
I believe the earth is Flat,.and you dont need to have pity on me,.,.Im a Vietnam Vet,,.and my Brother Inlaw, was a bomber pilot/Navigator, in WW2,well wed often share our stories ,but in 2008 he passed away,.but a few Days before he passed . we were talking,and I felt i had to ask him this question,,.If the Earth is spinning at 1000 mph and your plane is flying at about 180 mph .how are you able to bomb your target,..do you have to allow for that,or do you have to drop the bombs way ahead of the Target or what,..and he looked at me and said " well you can forget about all that globe bullshit the earth is flat as a pancake "...
You're doing 180MPH relative to the Earth genius, all speeds are relative. You were already doing 1000MPH along with the Earth when you took off, when you land you slow down to match speeds again with the surface.
bullshit ,. relative my arse, you slow down to match the speed of the earth ..really,.youre already 10 times slower than the speed of the earth,.so how much slower do you have to slow down??...why do they call it " ground Level" and "water Level " is that all relative too,.and how do you make ,..water round,.oh thats right relativity,..!!!
Agreed. Flat Earth is a normie-level psyop that is used to discredit other 'alternative' lines of inquiry, like Plasma Cosmology or Electric Universe Theory, which both hold up much better than the current Cosmological/Space models.
The Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV) was transported to the Moon on board the Lunar Module (LM) during the Apollo 15, 16, and 17 missions. It weighed approximately 210 kg (463 lbs) on Earth but only 35 kg (77 lbs) on the Moon due to the Moon's lower gravitational pull (which is 1/6th that of Earth). This means that the astronauts had no trouble unfolding and assembling the Rover which they had trained and drilled for many times on Earth , while on the moon and in their space suits. The LRV was powered by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide batteries, which were located in the rear of the vehicle and provided power to the vehicle's electric motor.
The only 'pure billshit' here is your research skills and reading comprehension.
Trying to change people's tiny little minds is one of the single most thankless, soul destroying, humanity eschewing, frustrating and technically difficult tasks one could possibly undertake due to humanity's vile mental proclivities.
People just want to believe what they want to believe, the truth, research and critical thought be damned. If you challenge it you get agro or a pathetic little sound-byte reply pretending to be a rebuttal.
I want to move to where there is maybe one other human in a 10 mile radius, apart from my girlfirend.
The Lunar Orbiter sure does. It's even taken pictures of the landing sites. And, I have personally been to the McDonald Observatory in Texas to witness their "Apache Point Observatory Lunar Laser-ranging Operation" (APOLLO) in action, where they can measure the distance from the Earth to the Moon using a laser. I'd be careful strutting your ignorance so boldly here in GAW if I were you. Are you sure this WIN is where your valuable spare time is best spent?
So if Iām ignorant about something Iām in trouble on the GAW? When did this start?
I donāt believe we landed on the moon, because I donāt ātrust the scienceā. And Iām shocked you do. Oh we have museums that show space stuff? And pictures!! Oh nvm then. Must be true! Please. If my ādoubting the scienceā upsets your stance, then do what you have to do. Itās your world after all, right?
And since weāre editing. To me, this whole space thing, esp NASAā¦biggest money laundering in the US. Itās so obvious. But hey, that my opinion. Which Iām sharing, on this forum.
Ummm... when was that? Absolutely not. I'm a space nerd and I know of no instance where film was destroyed by radiation. The film used in the cameras was specially coated to protect against radiation damage, and the cameras were also shielded to minimize exposure. Additionally, the cameras were not left on the lunar surface for extended periods of time, so the amount of radiation they were exposed to would have been vanishingly small. Tthe Apollo spacecraft and the astronauts themselves were also equipped with radiation shielding to protect them from solar radiation during their journey to and from the Moon.
Of course only what is made public and official could have happened...
It's usually the things that are done that aren't made public that cause rumor-mills to go of on a tangent, having enough official documentation is rarely the cause of any such thing...
I think you might have missed the content, and point, of my previous comment(s) entirely :(
If you are smarter, demonstrate it by attacking the thoughts/statements i make and not the thinker who makes them. Ad hominem is the last resort of the mentally weak. Demonstrate your strength by viciously attacking the thoughts directly - not childishly attacking the thinker out of desperation!
Nonsense
You know an easy way to tell if a conspiracy theory is clown-approved bullshit? When it's tolerated on YouTube but discussing the efficacy of masks and mRNA or election fraud gets you banned.
Think how easy it would be to fake a moon mission when you have to replicate one on earth for training purposes.
If the Apolo Mission were authentic, we would not have spent the last fifty years flying no higher than five hundred miles off the surface of earth. If we could go 238,000 miles out and back in the age of transistor radios and tube TVs, we would have done something similar in the ensuing decades.
With all due respect, that's an incredibly ignorant take. The only reason to go into space is to get into orbit. Putting something into orbit is only possible or useful or feasible once you are fully outside of the Earth's atmosphere. That's it. That happens to be about 220 MI hi, just a few hours drive if you could drive straight up. That's it. There's no reason to be at 250 miles or 300 miles. The further you go, the less useful your satellite is because it's farther and farther away from earth. You're just wasting fuel. It doesn't really matter if the moon is $238,000 MI away, once you get out of Earth's orbit, you can float for as long as you've got food and water in the capsule, basically. There's no such thing as distance in space, there's only duration in terms of floating to your next objective.
It is absurd to accept that we went from having no manned space program at all in 1959, to putting men on the Moon a scant ten years later, when you consider that that we have done nothing but occupy low earth orbit for the last fifty years.
The whole manned space program from Mercury to Gemini to Skylab and the Space Shuttle right up to current times makes perfect sense as a timeline of technological progress if you eliminate that magical Walt Disney-esque episode where we supposedly went to the moon.
It is also absurd that the astronauts who allegedly walked on the moon took a dune buggy and even a golf ball and club but never a telescope.
Personal Incredulity. That's the logical fallacy you have. What, it couldn't be done in 10 years, with billions of dollars and the weight of the largest program since the Manhattan Project? That's absurd. The march of the space program is so incredibly well documented that you literally have to be an ignorant moron to think it was all fake. The Manhattan Project lasted from 1942 to 1945, taking approximately 3 years from start to finish. They SPLIT THE ATOM that fast??!? It's absurd to believe they made TWO atomic bombs, when in 1935 they had NO NUCLEAR PROGRAM!
Your logic, not mine. The bombs were CGI! Fake! Right?
You don't understand rockets. It's not about going to the moon, then colonizing the moon, or whatever. Every project has to have a payoff. For NASA and the USA, it was beating the USSR to the moon. Think of it this way: Once we got there, what else is there to do on the moon but golf?
You have to view the Apollo missions in terms of these phases:
Apollo 11 was primarily focused on landing on the moon and demonstrating the capabilities of the spacecraft and the crew, with limited scientific experiments.
By the time of Apollo 17, the focus had shifted towards more comprehensive scientific study of the moon, with the mission being heavily focused on geology. The crew was equipped with a suite of instruments and tools for conducting experiments and collecting samples.
In addition to geology, the later missions also expanded the scope of scientific study to include areas such as geophysics, geochemistry, and solar wind. The Apollo missions provided valuable data and samples that helped expand our understanding of the moon and the solar system.
In some ways, the science was just getting started when they cancelled the program, but by then, the public was bored and the missions weren't getting headlines.
Economics took over. That's why they focused on low earth orbit. Why? Because the black budgets took over and space became about spying. And that's why space is resurging. ECONOMICS have finally taken over where space can be commercialized. That's what Starlink is, for instance.. We're no longer being driven and controlled by your supposed space Communists at NASA.
why is wind blowing the flag on the moon?
So now that we are ending our research on the ISS and moving to build our new space station around the moon (which will take more fuel but give us more valuable research for deep space travel), what will the new narrative be?
"Oh well if the moon landings were real then how come it took us 50 years to build a moon space station?"
Also, since we are sending people back to the moon in this decade, does the 20's not count as an ensuing decade?
I feel pity for those who believe the earth is flat. We've been lied to so much that these people have completely lost touch with reality and don't have the intelligence to discern truth.
I believe the earth is Flat,.and you dont need to have pity on me,.,.Im a Vietnam Vet,,.and my Brother Inlaw, was a bomber pilot/Navigator, in WW2,well wed often share our stories ,but in 2008 he passed away,.but a few Days before he passed . we were talking,and I felt i had to ask him this question,,.If the Earth is spinning at 1000 mph and your plane is flying at about 180 mph .how are you able to bomb your target,..do you have to allow for that,or do you have to drop the bombs way ahead of the Target or what,..and he looked at me and said " well you can forget about all that globe bullshit the earth is flat as a pancake "...
You're doing 180MPH relative to the Earth genius, all speeds are relative. You were already doing 1000MPH along with the Earth when you took off, when you land you slow down to match speeds again with the surface.
bullshit ,. relative my arse, you slow down to match the speed of the earth ..really,.youre already 10 times slower than the speed of the earth,.so how much slower do you have to slow down??...why do they call it " ground Level" and "water Level " is that all relative too,.and how do you make ,..water round,.oh thats right relativity,..!!!
Agreed. Flat Earth is a normie-level psyop that is used to discredit other 'alternative' lines of inquiry, like Plasma Cosmology or Electric Universe Theory, which both hold up much better than the current Cosmological/Space models.
Thunderbolts Project if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6YVJ6hq6Hg
That rover looks like it's 4wd. Must have been tough getting it into the little landing module.
It folded up. I've seen one at NASA! So cool
Confirmed. Iāve seen pictures of it folded up on the side of the lunar lander.
The Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV) was transported to the Moon on board the Lunar Module (LM) during the Apollo 15, 16, and 17 missions. It weighed approximately 210 kg (463 lbs) on Earth but only 35 kg (77 lbs) on the Moon due to the Moon's lower gravitational pull (which is 1/6th that of Earth). This means that the astronauts had no trouble unfolding and assembling the Rover which they had trained and drilled for many times on Earth , while on the moon and in their space suits. The LRV was powered by two 36-volt silver-zinc potassium hydroxide batteries, which were located in the rear of the vehicle and provided power to the vehicle's electric motor.
The only 'pure billshit' here is your research skills and reading comprehension.
Did you respond to the wrong person? Iām on your side.
Oh, geez, yes, sorry. I was on mobile, urrrgggg. Sorry
Trying to change people's tiny little minds is one of the single most thankless, soul destroying, humanity eschewing, frustrating and technically difficult tasks one could possibly undertake due to humanity's vile mental proclivities.
People just want to believe what they want to believe, the truth, research and critical thought be damned. If you challenge it you get agro or a pathetic little sound-byte reply pretending to be a rebuttal.
I want to move to where there is maybe one other human in a 10 mile radius, apart from my girlfirend.
THIS is the reason AI will destroy humanity.
The moon is flat... ~{Ā°Ā”Ā°}~
i've had some edge front property for sale for yrs....still no takers
Hey C5, a very good job at drawing all the crazies out of their holes, after all a flat earth is known about all over the globe!
Bunch of mongs.
Flat Earth Society, with members all AROUND the globe. kek.
PLM?
Pepe Lives Matter
Is that a .win site? I'm not finding it anywhere.
https://t.me/PepeMatter
Hehe, people actually think we landed on the moon. Crazy.
The Lunar Orbiter sure does. It's even taken pictures of the landing sites. And, I have personally been to the McDonald Observatory in Texas to witness their "Apache Point Observatory Lunar Laser-ranging Operation" (APOLLO) in action, where they can measure the distance from the Earth to the Moon using a laser. I'd be careful strutting your ignorance so boldly here in GAW if I were you. Are you sure this WIN is where your valuable spare time is best spent?
So if Iām ignorant about something Iām in trouble on the GAW? When did this start?
I donāt believe we landed on the moon, because I donāt ātrust the scienceā. And Iām shocked you do. Oh we have museums that show space stuff? And pictures!! Oh nvm then. Must be true! Please. If my ādoubting the scienceā upsets your stance, then do what you have to do. Itās your world after all, right?
And since weāre editing. To me, this whole space thing, esp NASAā¦biggest money laundering in the US. Itās so obvious. But hey, that my opinion. Which Iām sharing, on this forum.
I believe it was the California desert, or Utah
Some of the footage got destroyed by radiation(imagine that, radiation in space... NASA...)anywaaay...
Due to the amount of prestige and everything else admitting that at the time was a no-go so some of the footage was faked as a face-saving measure..
And that is the likely origin of the 'moonlanding was fake' nonsense as humans are NOT good an nuance, it HAS to be one or the other...
Ummm... when was that? Absolutely not. I'm a space nerd and I know of no instance where film was destroyed by radiation. The film used in the cameras was specially coated to protect against radiation damage, and the cameras were also shielded to minimize exposure. Additionally, the cameras were not left on the lunar surface for extended periods of time, so the amount of radiation they were exposed to would have been vanishingly small. Tthe Apollo spacecraft and the astronauts themselves were also equipped with radiation shielding to protect them from solar radiation during their journey to and from the Moon.
Of course only what is made public and official could have happened...
It's usually the things that are done that aren't made public that cause rumor-mills to go of on a tangent, having enough official documentation is rarely the cause of any such thing...
So how do they get the Russians to keep quiet? If Putin is telling us about biolabs he'd happily tell us that the US moon landings were faked as well.
Landings aren't faked, just some of the footage....
If you think 10 seconds of research is sufficient (for anything), you have much bigger problems than the moon landing hoax.
I agree that pictures like this arenāt great proof for, or against, any āmoon landingā.
However, they are certainly evidence that faking photos of ālunar environmentsā on earth at the time was trivial and somewhat routine.
Those that lack the intellectual capacity to attack the thoughts, instead resort to attacking the thinker out of desperation and incompetence.
Do better if you can, brother or sister.
I think you might have missed the content, and point, of my previous comment(s) entirely :(
If you are smarter, demonstrate it by attacking the thoughts/statements i make and not the thinker who makes them. Ad hominem is the last resort of the mentally weak. Demonstrate your strength by viciously attacking the thoughts directly - not childishly attacking the thinker out of desperation!
ermagawd! you opened a can of worms with this one. kek.