2 Peter 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
We have all things that pertain to life and godliness right now. We are connected to life and godliness right now.
Jesus Christ calls is to glory now, as Jesus Christ is risen, so we are risen sons of God. We walk In virtue which is excellence now through the perfect Holy Spirit that is put in us through faith.
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
We are partakers of God’s nature through faith in Jesus Christ and the new birth experience of the Holy Spirit.
We've escaped the corruption in the world. We don't identify with corruption. I am not corrupt and I won't be corrupted, I will not be governed by a corrupt government.
This.
I've known atheists. They comment but take no action. Its like they really dont care.
Then too, not believing in God, they dont believe in sin either. I've known them to be constant liars, always looking to cheat and steal and to them its ok.....they shrug it off as "I'm just smarter than they are".
Not all are like this, but most don't want to have pesky sexual morals questioned. (now, if you take libertarianism, you may disagree with the idea of one man, one woman, one life time, but you will draw the line somewhere; sex must be consensual, children cannot consent to sex because they cannot understand the full ramifications, nor can some young adults, etc.)
Interestingly enough, I know of two who have some serious scruples: Perry Willis of Downsize DC and The Zero Aggression Project:
https://zeroaggressionproject.org/uncategorized/can-you-legislate-morality/
Oddly enough, Penn Jillette of Penn and Teller, has Ten Suggestions that, though they disrespect the God factor, (See #1 Suggestion in God, No,) do respect other ideals, such as honoring your parents and family, and avoiding making a promise you can't or don't intend on keeping. He also points out if Christians truly believe Jesus is the only way, they should be sharing the Gospel, and takes no offense when they do.
I’m a libertarian who agrees with voluntary heterosexual monogamy. I’m not aware of libertarians who disagree with it.
Scruples (principles) are good things. It’s the unscrupulous (unprincipled) people you have to look out for. For clarity I’m going to avoid that term. By your tone you seem to have a problem with Willis or what he wrote in the linked essay. What’s the problem?
His conclusion is reasonable:
For example, I think it’s ok to try to talk people out of homosexuality, but inappropriate to throw them in jail for being homo. Jesus didn’t throw anyone in jail. He told them to go and sin no more. If marriage is a form of private contract, then two adults should be able to contract what they want short of violating others. Laws against homos adopting other people’s children can be appropriate, though, because a non-consenting third party is affected. The “slippery slope” down from gay marriage has turned out to be less fallacious than initially claimed as we can see with the increase of grooming. But that brings up a different issue of coercion: government schools. If children’s mandatory attendance and families’ education budgets had not been coercively captured by the state, then there wouldn’t have been such a setting for the grooming.
He is absolutely right here, and it lines up with how Jesus treated the woman caught in adultery, often the biggest stone- throwers are also the biggest hypocrites. I normally don't post links to sites, then complement the authors, when I have a bone to pick with them...I personally think he has a higher standard of morals than any Neo-cons (especially war-mongers), Christian or not.
I fully agree on the rest of your point as well.
They don’t sound very atheist. Reminds me of another group.
It sounds as though you could be talking about the Commies in our government at this very moment. You may want to associate with people that believe in God, if you have the opportunity.
There is a 3rd branch of people, whom I converse with. Who deal in the Anunnkai, life is about 'experience' there is no good or evil, just 'experience'. The Ancient Aliens, "oldest" texts all point to the same thing. All the main Gods the World believes in now were created by them to deceive. Jesus was human, survived the crucifixtion and was ported off to India. They consider themselves the most brilliant and elightened of them all. They have no dog in this worldly fight because they are mentally and spiritually 'above' all this. They mostly believe Q is a baddie psyop because all the controllers are connected.
As Christians, we are not to dabble in tarot card readers, Psychic readers, or really anything that deals with spirits.
In a contextual sense the Urantia Book is not concentric to theology-biblical-bible-religion, it is a book, but where a generally accepted paradigm meaning for bible is concerned this does not describe the contextual basis of the Urantia Book, however the text and length can appear to be so. Originating around 1924 onward, one could say the "new age" viewpoint, in part, derived or align with concepts from the Urantia Book but is not "new age" in a literal sense, as it appears how your comments are trying to attribute a basis of genre.
I do not have a searchable version to test this but near certainty that there is not a single reference to the Annunaki in the Urantia Book.
As far as Satanic, that is your own personal belief and well entitled to it. Stating such concepts as satanic and omitting this as opinion based is disingenuous by nature.
"Ancient astronaut theorists say yes!"
Jesus has set us free to enjoy freedom! An unelected government is slavery.
Yes, and also an elected government can be tyrannical. The God-given rights of the minority are supposed to be protected from mob-rule.
I don't know how people who don't know God are coping with all the stuff that's happening right now. I suspect they often cope by ignoring it, or pretending it doesn't exist. Staying uninformed on purpose.
But this reminds me of that youtube channel with the older guy who says that government literally means 'mind control.' He has a blonde wife and a teenage son. Anybody know who I mean? What's the name of the channel?
Godless people are really really hard to be around.
government (n.)
late 14c., "act of governing or ruling;" 1550s, "system by which a thing is governed" (especially a state), from Old French governement "control, direction, administration" (Modern French gouvernement), from governer "to steer, be at the helm of; govern, rule, command, direct," from Latin gubernare "to direct, rule, guide, govern," originally "to steer, to pilot"(see govern). Meaning "governing power" in a given place is from 1702. Compare governance. also from late 14c.
govern (v.)
late 13c., "to rule with authority," from Old French governer "steer, be at the helm of; govern, rule, command, direct" (11c., Modern French gouverner), from Latin gubernare "to direct, rule, guide, govern" (source also of Spanish gobernar, Italian governare), originally "to steer, to pilot," a nautical borrowing from Greek kybernan "to steer or pilot a ship, direct as a pilot," figuratively "to guide, govern" (the root of cybernetics). The -k- to -g- sound shift is perhaps via the medium of Etruscan. Intransitive sense from 1590s. Related: Governed; governing.
Source: https://www.etymonline.com/word/government
I was born stubborn, skeptical, suspicious, cynical and NONcompliant. Go ahead and try to control that. I sure can't. I was put on earth to spit in the eye of authority.
Lol. Love this. I feel the same way.
And thank you God for what has to be considered as a gift.
Asked a millennial what scruples were...she said "isn't that what you put on icecream?". We are doomed
Thank you, no, I developed the name from another site, glocktalk.com
Jesus has been teaching me. We grow, great post BTW, thanks for adding to the thread.
I follow Jesus Christ.
That is my government.
Are you sure you're clear.
You might have a bit of Babylon doctrine clouding your judgement.
That's OK, repent.
Romans 8 is a lot of how to overcome Babylon. Babylon lies, it tells you, that you are still subject to it. Romans 8 says you are a son of God because you follow the Spirit. Babylon says nothing is yet perfect, Romans 8 says you are in the Spirit. The Spirit is perfect. So I learned to affirm what Romans says.
Romans 7 shows man captive to the flesh. Romans 8 shows man overcoming the flesh.
The Revelation of Jesus Christ is much about overcoming fallen Babylon.
Babylon represents the lie, Jesus Christ is faithful and true, and we are in Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ is in us by the Holy Spirit.
It's a great topic, the spiritual interpretation of Revelation. The dragon would rather us interpret it as carnal, then we miss the power of God in the heavens where Jesus Christ is at the right hand of our father God, and we are seated with Him right now. That is authority.
I prefer to see it as happening as we speak.
These are exciting times.
I understand better where you are coming from now. I really had not seen it quite that way. The last church I went to a few years back, Baptist, in a bible study I said we were seated with Christ in heavenly places now. The preacher purposely embarrassed me and said that was a place holder scripture for the future. I knew he was wrong and I never went back. Done with Sunday churches. "I prefer to see it happening as we speak." I'm on-board with that. I will be looking at Romans 7&8 again. Have a good night.
Babylon represents the lie, contrasted with Jesus who is faithful and true. We abide in Christ and therefore we have overcome the world of lies. Carnal vs spiritual. I think I get it. That's really cool. Thank you.for putting up with me.
Ha, I always figure it's me being obnoxious, I find you to be refreshingly honest.
Thanks for posting.
You're following Jesus Christ withsoever he goes.
"His voice as the sound of many waters" is all of us that are in Jesus Christ in the midst of the churches. Jesus Christ in us, in the churches.................that doesn't mean you have to pick a church, it means you are in the midst of all of them. The church is everyone that is called out of the corrupt world. In the Revelation of Jesus Christ the churches are symbolic of conditions to be overcome or conquered.
You have a great night too.
I follow Jesus Christ, He is faithful and true.
Here's a nice verse.
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Jesus Christ is faithful and true..........not just a little.
The armies which follow him are like him.
I'm not corrupt, I'm faithful and true.
That Is affirming scripture and affirming the Holy Spirit.
It's a radical faith we follow, come on saint, stand on truth.
I follow Jesus Christ, alive and in charge.
Christians seem to fear new age. I don't.
Follow Jesus.
Iron sharpens iron . Proverbs 27:17
Indeed.
:)