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posted 2 years ago by panamax 2 years ago by panamax +148 / -0
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– CokeOrPepe 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

It’s about time the news catches up to what we all knew years ago. Anyone taking msm seriously is so uninformed it’s totally rediculous. I say the same things to people that they are telling them now, years ago - and I was called an uninformed conspiracy theorist - so frustrating to deal with these people. I just gave up

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– ragingrobot 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Even reading only the first sentence, I'm thinking... "haven't the lot of us who haven't bought into the propaganda said exactly this?"

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– LongTimeListener 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

EVs raise carbon but who in the fuck cares? Carbon is not the evil they gaslight us with. The worst parts of EVs is the lithium and cobalt mining, the fires from the batteries, the short life of the batteries and high cost to replace and the space in the landfills something that cant be recycled takes up.

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– akira2501 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The extra weight of the vehicle takes a toll on roads, too. They should lose their "HOV" stickers. They're not benefiting everyone enough to allow them to cheat the diamond lanes.

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– LongTimeListener 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

And can you imagine being stuck on the highway for 24 hours like people were in the last east coast blizzard?

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– seasonedcastiron 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And parking garages are not designed to hold their weight.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It matters to criticize them on these, because it focuses people's eyes on the lying that was pushed on them.

Then you bring their attention to the other problems areas, like lithium mining etc.

One leads to another which leads to another still.

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– Lapstrake 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

The push for EV's is quite simple.

You can buy gasoline with cash. It can be an anonymous transaction where nobody knows your Vaccine Status or Social Credit score. You can easily transport and store gasoline or diesel fuel.

You can't charge your car away from home with cash.

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– russiah 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Battery industry is a shady business where middlemen get lots of kickbacks when you know which country is involved

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– akira2501 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Gasoline engines power farming.

If you get rid of them you destroy farming.

Your car has a software system that's always connected to the internet. They don't need to watch your charging to mess with you. They can remotely do whatever they want to the car.

Tesla's been known to "downgrade" cars remotely before. Who cares about charging when they can just tell the car to keep you under 15 mi with a remote update.

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– Lapstrake 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Your car has a software system that's always connected to the internet.

My car does. My truck doesn't.

It seems like if they start using the internet connectivity of cars to control people, then people will destroy the modems. If cars won't operate with out it, then people won't buy those cars. It would be difficult law to pass that cars have to have internet access. That is a much trickier control mechanism than turning off charging stations.

People would get much more upset if their car that they paid for refuses to do car things, than if the charging station refuses to charge.

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– akira2501 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Fair points.. but..

It would be difficult law to pass that cars have to have internet access.

It'd be pretty easy. They're already trying to backdoor this through insurance programs. Combine this with ALPRs and automatic expiration of your registration, they can make this a massive hassle.

People would get much more upset if their car that they paid for refuses to do car things, than if the charging station refuses to charge.

The two are one in the same.

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– Lapstrake 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The two are one in the same.

I don't think so. You paid for the car. You didn't pay for the charging station.

They are very different.

If they started disabling privately owned vehicles people would figure out a way around it. The people own the cars, so the government can't prevent it. The charging stations are a whole different thing. We can't do anything about that.

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– akira2501 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

In the sense that if you can't charge it, you can't drive it. I think people are so used to these utilities being available, they don't see them as separate.

In your view, it only works if there's a different charging network they can go to down the street that will serve them. There would have to be an option that makes this a distinction.

If, for example, they tie all this up through your credit or debit card, then you won't be able to charge at any network and your car is now a 4500lb paperweight.

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– Donny_Fiasco 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You have a phone.

Nothing else is needed

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– Lapstrake 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No not really.

If we got to that point people would instantly get really cagey about cell phones.

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– Donny_Fiasco 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Lol.

A cell phone is quite literally a tracking device.

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– DElfman 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"The push for EV's is quite simple."

it is... who owns all the worlds lithium mines?

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– Pbman2 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

The sky is blue.....

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– CaJuN-Polak 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

How about this take:

After taxing / penalizing owners of petrolium burning vehicles into extinction due to carbon emissions and forcing everyone into EVs, they "suddenly realize" that even though the EVs don't create carbon emissions, the powerplants do ... so they force the power plants to pay HEAVILY for these carbon outputs ... which either raises the cost of electricty by 300+% OR closes plants altogether. Either way, electricty will no longer be attainable by anyone other than the elite ... and no one can travel nor cook nor cool their homes.

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– IamM 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

As a mechanic seeing those things makes me laugh quite a bit, especially since they're "supposed" to be safe. Their relative lack of noise, while nice when you're a bachelor trying to bail on someone at 2-3am while they're sleeping, makes them a complete nightmare in parking lots and areas with small children. Although the maintenance is apparently less due to the lack of oil changes, when they do break the costs are often 10-15x more than gas counterparts (replacing the battery costing about $40k alone). Wouldn't call them "scams" per say, just liken them to those seguay things: something that only benefits rich people to buy.

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– Greekish 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Wouldn't call them "scams" per say, just liken them to those seguay things

Wouldn't call them "scams" per se, just liken them to those segué things

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– jasqid 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Vaccines do more to reduce carbon emissions. And suddenly in the last 2 years.

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– akira2501 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

90% efficiency driving the wheels, the loses are heat and comfort systems. 90% efficiency charging the battery, the loses are the cooling system. 90% efficiency delivering power, the loses are in the grid and the transformers and DC converters and the long charging cord.

So, 0.9 ** 3 == maximum 72.9% efficient just on a basic level. It's worse if the weather or wind are against you, both in driving, and in battery cooling management.

The only advantage these things have is they can charge with cheap power and drive during the day. However, since they decided to throw away NG and Nuclear and put in Solar everywhere, there is no cheap and reliable off peak power anymore to handle the demand.

Retarded Squared.

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– Merkava_4 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Alcohol fuels made from bacteria waste is the way to go. They make the bacteria inside metal tanks that are partitioned into multiple layers. Multiple artificial ponds if you will. All the bacteria needs is water and sunlight.

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– DElfman 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Toto Wolf - Head of Merc Formula 1 ... was quoted saying that it takes a petrol vehicle 150,000 miles to expel the same level of emmisions that are baked into a new battery, but by the time they reach parity..the EV will need a new battery.

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– Obamaswhitemom 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

All life forms are carbon based sooo…

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– akira2501 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Carbon is life. It's not an accident. It's the only element that can be used to build something like our bodies. It bonds with itself, has lots of positions to bond other items, and it's mostly neutral so it can readily reconfigure into new structures and compounds.

There's nothing else in the table that can do this. Silicon has been proposed, but it's not as neutral, and tends to not be as chemically flexible as carbon.

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– russiah 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Scotty on YT said it too

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"Might"?

We don't have nearly enough nuclear plants nor the efficiency of coal in other sources (solar, hydro, wind, etc.) so it always falls back on coal to charge these.

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