We are expecting our 1st grandchild in October. I was just informed by my husband that our daughter called him in tears 6 weeks ago because her doctor is insisting that all members of the family that will be around the child must get a flu shot. Our daughter unfortunately is a liberal and will follow that rule but she also knows how I feel about vaccines. My husband has known about this for 6 weeks but has been afraid to mention it to me because he knew I was not going to like it. This has put me in a horrible position. My husband even said that if I wanted to lie to her and tell her I got the shot, he would go along with it. I told him absolutely not! I am not going to lie. I promised my husband that I would do it but not without doing some investigation first. I don’t even know how to start investigation on this. Do any of you know if there is a way to figure out if there are different flu shots out there and how to know which pharma company is behind them? Any advice would be much appreciated.
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My first grandchild was born in 2021 and my liberal daughter insisted that we have the covid shot. I said nope.... Send me pics. She was 2.5 months old before they were "comfortable with us seeing her.
Don't regret for one moment
THANK YOU and other parents , people in general, who did not cower to the brainwashashed bully’s , no matter who they are . I know this was tough, but thank God you stood strong ! Many of the awake are the problem , many refuse to stand when it’s time to be thrown into the furnace ,,, you passed king Nebuchadnezzar’s text .. good for you for not bowing !
https://rumble.com/v36uula-medicine-failed-us-nurse-gail-mccrae.html Watch the video. Share it with your daughter. The proof is that our “healthcare” system is compromised & corrupt. Only a small majority of medical people can be trusted. I think many of us can name them.
Thanks, but clearly you don't have family members who are brainwashed beyond belief. I'm not wasting my time.... They just think I'm cooky....
Oh, I have brainwashed family members. My eldest son called me a racist in 2016 when he asked who I was voting for President. It’s been a strained relationship ever since. Later when the Covid jabs came out I contacted all of them to warn not to take the jab. Provided information etc. It spiraled out of control from there. My eldest son works for a school district. I am sure that will instill a picture of a rabid leftist in your mind. Anyway I was doing my job as a mother who wanted to protect her children-even if they are stupid adults. I went to the mattresses to save them. I don’t see them now, but I did my job & left nothing on the table. No regrets.
Yep.... I'm that same mom... I can tell them stuff but they're so brainwashed that they can't believe how "stupid" I am....
Mine are very slowly coming to awareness. Hang in there.
My liberal daughter is a nurse practitioner.... She thinks docs are infallible.... Go figure
Best answer.
Tough position, because the thing you desire, a safe vaccine, does not exist.
I can only speak my position, but I stand my ground on this issue. I have no way of knowing what the future brings. Every single person in my daughter-in-laws extended family is vaxxed to the limit. If people are dying rapidly, then slowly through attrition, who's going to be around at the end of it all?
The un-vaxxed.
The un-vaxxed will raise the orphaned children of the maxx-vaxxed at some point in the future.
Nothing rosy about any of it.
its not the doctors decision its your daughters....if she is a lib its time to start spoon feeding the red pills...........
Believe me, I have tried!!
good luck fern
Nope, she needs the daily big red suppository. Sorry, but if she or the baby’s father had the COVID jab, they’ve already compromised your grand baby’s health.
Just no. Do not let anyone bully you into putting poison in your body.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/why-you-should-not-get-the-flu-vaccine
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/influenza-vaccine-is-perfect-example
No Vaccinations ever for anyone...that is my hard and fast rule...if my children want to choose vaccinations for them or their children that is on them. You cannot trust the flu shots nor the doctors that give them. Fortunately none of my kids/spouses got the clot shot.
I did not vax my 5 children but I have 4 out of 8 grandchildren that received childhood vaccinations and possibly flu vaccines...it breaks my heart because I see health issues in these kids but it is on the parents....I am not my grandchildren's parent and I have to give them that right to choice...
I did all I could...articles, information, talking etc but the brainwashing of medical personnel is very deep...now I just pray for my grandchildren...I did the best I could...yes...I could show you how bad the vaccines are but it sounds like you are the only one who would believe it...
We also did not vax our children (we have seven) after the first round or so with our first child. Even back in the 90s as a young, clueless mom, I just felt like it was too much and harmful (and that gut feeling sent me down a rabbit hole of research.) I don't regret it a bit.
There was a push a while back among young people- pre covid of course, because I believe this was all planned in advance- to ridicule anti vaxxers as stupid and irresponsible, and quite a few of my kids fell for it and resented me and their dad for not getting them vaxxed. These kids grew up healthy as horses with very few illnesses, of course. We did sit down with each one of them when they were teens and told them why didn't vax them and that when they were grown they could choose to get vaxxed if they wanted (but to please research first.) Then covid happened and most of them decided we were pretty ignorant and a few got the shot (thankfully no bad health effects yet.) I am sure a few of them will vax their children if something doesn't change (no grandchildren yet.)
I've given up trying to talk to them. Covid, finances (we had had a very successful family business pre election steal and employed all of our kids- this economy forced us to downsize and we can no longer offer all the good things to our kids that we used to, therefore they're not happy with us) and the election bs has driven a wedge between us and most of our kids. I hope that when everything is said and done we can restore our relationships. We've stood our ground and we don't force our beliefs on our kids but they feel fine forcing theirs on us, lol.
It hurts me to see other families like OP's dealing with the same issues. God help us all- this feels like a nightmare.
I commend you for staying true to your convictions and beliefs...I had 5 kids in the 80's so I am a bit ahead of you but the persecution for the ant-vaxxer's was pretty much the same...I sacrificed a lot to live the lifestyle that I thought was best for my family and it does break my heart...
The culprit in our family is my two sons who married a nurse and a nurse practitioner...they evidently have the final say about these things...my girls are on the same page with me and my beliefs. I am just too old to feel I have to control everyone and everything and there is freedom in just giving it all to God and letting Him deal with it...which is where I am at...
I certainly feel your pain and understand your situation completely...the only positive for me is that our family is still all tight knit and even though we disagree that hasn't alienated us from our kids or grandkids...I pray for you and your family...life is often difficult...but it is NEVER wrong to do right....God bless you anon...loving mom...
I’m so sorry you went through this ,, u have a great attitude ! The part about the business is tough , kids unhappy thst you can’t lavish them no matter what-degree thst is ,,, entitlements, boy does thst hit home , I didn’t vax youngest , she was always so proud and happy , my oldest daughter has autism , however , now I’m the crazy bad guy ,, she got the jab ! It’s tough !
Why take a chance? Why play the russian roulette with your health and your life? If you do not take the vaccine you might have to wait to see your grandchild, but if you take the vaxx there is a chance that you might not live to see your grandchild.
ALL VACCINES ARE HARMFULL
I’m thinking you are newly awake ? This site has had enough information that if you read even a third of it you wouldn’t be asking this question ? We need to show the love of Jesus to humanity , have patience and be kind .. after what the demons did to humanity especially our dear older senior loved ones and our innocent children. I don’t have much tolerance anymore , the information is out there , you should no better , stop cowering to people who have chosen to turn there minds over to be controlled ,,, it’s all poison , you know thst , what the hell is there to research , there are no good flu shots , you take a huge risk ! Why don’t you look at it in the direction that your grandchild needs to have atleast a grandmother who is safe and healthy , the child may need you someday ! Wake up ! Please wake up for all of the childrens sake !
THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TY ,, I was kind of shocked reading that post !!
Agreed.
Actually this is the best answer 👏
Ty I’m trying hard not to say what I really want to .. reading that post was a wtf moment ,, research for a good jab ? Wth .
You can still get the flu after the shot. I think that speaks for itself
Awesome answer in fact you’ll definitly get it ,, wow I hope she meditates on your answer , smartest one yet !
I never feel the need to do anything anymore that I really don't feel right doing. Time will go by and you will eventually see your grandchild. All will be well. You know where your line is and they will know it too. Believe me, you will feel better and better about your choice to follow your gut. You will start doing this more and more with everything in your life. This will make you stronger and more at peace. Blessings to you and your family.
Don't take the risk of getting the flu shot,especially the current shot.
Research the treatments for covid, they work for most if not all respiratory viruses. Vitamins C and D3, quercetin, zinc to start with. Ivermectin and HCQ also.
The most important, nasal sprays and throat gargles to use in conjunction with the above treatments.
You could try to educate your daughter. I know it may be impossible. I wish you the best of luck, fren.
I would invite her to sit down and listen/watch the Joe Rogan/RFK Jr podcast (this is the most succinct dissemination of "vaccines are bad" information that I have seen out there) with you.
You can say that you won't be getting the shot until she's heard the other side and sign a waiver that if you suffer any harm from the vaccine, she is liable for any care that you need. She needs to consider your health as well. Might also be helpful to find cases of fu shot harm so she can see the possibilities.
I just reached out to my daughter for vaccine mitigating protocols or sites for research. I'll post if/when I find out anything. You could ask your daughter the same (red pill appetizer)
I am sorry you and your husband are in this position.
I get to speak from the outside, without attachments. My observation is that daughter has just discovered a point of leverage that will be exploited as long as it is viable. She knows the decisions you are making and the positions you have concerning participating in the pharma/medical scheme, but yet she probes for a weakness.
I'll hush because when I conclude I am being manipulated, I tend to react in anger.
Personally any doctor demanding anyone coming around the child have a vaccine is BS. I’m saying you daughter thought that one up. If you don’t think so, call the doctor. If your daughter is a liberal, don’t put it past her just because she is blood kin. I know if my daughter told me that, I would tell her I am sorry but I cannot comply. Just me saying what I would do.
Having been recently pregnant in 2021 I can say they definately warn you and try to scare you to have anyone who will be near the child get whooping cough and flu including yourself. I kept telling them i'd get the shot later in pregnancy maybe after i finalized my research on it. I already knew i wasn't but it kept them from pestering me. Did the same with pediatrics.
OP - IT is hard not to see the babys first days but at least they will meet their grandparent someday. Dont harm yourself with a shot.
I'd bet they are putting the same ingredients as C19 I to all other vaxxes. Don't trust them! I wouldn't lie and pretend I got a flu shot either, because that would send the message you're ok with it. I feel badly for you in this position. Sad to say, but you need to be around if something happens to your daughter and son-in-law from taking the shots.
I would not give in to see anyone, not even my first grandchild.
-Nancy Reagan
When I was mandated for the H1N1 in NY back in 2009 as a therapist, I went to a rally against the mandate in Albany. While there I was handed a number of articles on how bad vaccines are and what is really in them.
After that I decided I will NEVER take another vaccine or shot again.
Is there any way you could send anything to your daughter on what is in the flu vaccines that would make her change her mind?
Good Lord. Don't get vaxxed. If you die from the vaxx you won't be seeing your grandchild grow up. There is now no safe vaxx, if there ever was. Someone in your family has got to stand their ground as an example. My granddaughter-in-law got vaxxed after her first child. Now she just has miscarraiges. Their family will not be growing. Liberals are tragically gullible people and it costs lives and dreams.
To be perfectly clear; I believe we're talking about a FLU shot / "Vaxx"; not THE Covid clot shot.....
Significant difference....
Flu shots have been around for a very long time. I only had to take one, once (as I related in my other comment) due to the birth of my first child, and fortunately no side effects....this was pre-covid, however.
:-)
If you give in to this kind of strong-arming it's never going to end. If another fake vaccine comes along it'll start again, and you will have risked your health for nothing.
There are lots of us in this same boat, Goqgo. We must tough it out and FaceTime our grandkids, until our liberal children have their Great Awakening.
I'm curious, why was your daughter in tears?
She was in tears because she is afraid that I won’t comply and does not want to keep me away. She got so brainwashed in college and she believes everything doctors say. My husband was on the verge of tears when he was telling me too. Every time we have tried to talk to her in the past, she just gets mad and thinks we are the ones with radical ideas. I’m not going to rush to any decision. I’m praying that God will show me what to do.
I see. I was wondering if she was upset due to her Dr pressuring. I hope she turns around and considers your health as well.
"her doctor is insisting that all members of the family that will be around the child must get a flu shot."
That is merely his medical advice. He can't force that.
Geez, just lie about it. You're willing to put poison in your body but lying is beneath you. Print out a fake receipt or whatever they give you when you get a flu shot and don't stress over it. It's not complicated. My grandkids are my world and I would take a bullet for them, but I would never let one of my kids dictate what I do with my body. I would, however, lie to them and say I did because it's the simplest solution. I would just act like it was no problem and I was happy to do it, and probably even take a pic in front of the pharmacy sign. And yes, I know lying is wrong, but hey, I'd do it to be able to see my grandbabies. Praying for you all. :)
Lying to our loved ones is the simplest solution?? Since when is that what we do around here??
What would that teach the daughter? As her parent, this woman has a duty to be a good example.
A lying parent shows the child that they do not actually care for the child's wellbeing. Peace at all costs is absolutely never beneficial.
Found this.
https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/boosting-your-immune-system-good-for-all-colds-virus-and-flu-this-winter/
https://seemorerocks.is/project-veritas-leaked-military-documents-on-ivermectin/
I'm sorry you have been put in this position. I wouldn't take any vaccines. I know you want to be with your grandchild. What if you get it and get sick or ..... then you won't be able to enjoy your grandchild. Imo there are no good or safe vaccines, it's like playing Russian roulette.
Don't get it. She will eventually relent.
First off; Congrats & bless you & yours on the new grandchild. :-)
Next; I'm about the same as any of you as far as my view on the covid shot.
I AM in fact "fully vaxxed"; any vaccine that was released & common / required among kids born in the 60s / 70s / 80s; I took all those when I was a kid.
That said; our doc did the same thing to us with the birth of our 1st child; req'd flu shot.
I have never gotten a flu shot in my life, but I did it. Grudgingly. Granted, this was a couple years before covid, but....still......
I'd just do it & save your breath for another inevitable battle.... JMHO, and again; from someone who is 100% on your side as far as my view of the mRNA experimental medical procedures.....
If you love your grandchild, you will not get it. Someone needs to be there to raise the child if/when her parents have an "unexpected" reaction due to their choices. Do not allow this manipulation. When she wants someone to babysit because she needs a special Mom Day for herself, you will be called. It seems to be like getting the Flu shot these "mom day off" vacations. LOL. Keep your health, do not get any vaccines. They don't work anyway.
If she didn't have the courage to tell you herself and instead went through your husband, chances are she won't have the guts to confront you face to face. Unless she does, I would go about normal new grandmother business and have your plan in place if you even have to cross that bridge. New mothers need help, advice, and want their moms gushing over their new babies.
https://rense.com/general87/vaccin.htm?fbclid=IwAR0On3Fs9YRNSTUxLhzaNqKW0ZgJdrYS2Vce6b_V2MCYces-5tjDq_frFi8
https://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17759&fbclid=IwAR3Mgtf327VKjabVTBG9lre_Gcd_VYJacqpKNNb4aw5IPiwEj7BmUYBRW_o
http://vaccinedetox.com/?fbclid=IwAR3fH4RTJkJfScTQ55ZX8-RCQQ8DEY2vmloSnqydCQeZT0mPO-77N5JnJZg
https://drsircus.com/pediatrics/prevention-treatment-of-vaccine-damages/?fbclid=IwAR2K1jt9BcYD-fJ8u0djas6ptmky21fZ7Bn1oqcv_qLepV_Dc_NRhyk-mrc
God Bless you for this!! I will be studying all of it very throughly.
“We are fully vaccinated!” Print out an official looking “fully vaccinated” certificate.
Not a lie.