Climate change is way overhyped as a concern. There are a few activists but for most zoomers climate change is just something they vaguely think might be a problem down the line. Not serious enough for actual life changing action though.
As a leader in our local Patriot Group and the wife of the new chair of our county GOP (patriots took over our local party), WHAT will fire up our youth enough to get them engaged in this fight? We’re really struggling with this.
Most people I know aren't really that political. They can be culturally conservative (usually boys) or culturally liberal (usually girls) but I don't really know anyone who's interested in elections or government stuff. Getting zoomers to be interested in politics is gonna be really hard.
I'm a guy. I'm a bit different cuz I've kind of always been interested in politics. I used to know everything about the presidents when I was a kid and thought Trump was hilarious during the first debates. I spent a lot of time trolling people on reddit and YouTube and just being involved with the right wing online culture in general. I moved from the_donald on reddit to pdw and then found gaw.
So I'm not really a normal example. Most zoomers are more into memes than actual politics as was I for a long time.
So, in your opinion, is there a topic that would engage them if they understood what was actually happening? Or is this a waste of time and energy to even consider?
We can’t even engage the Young Republicans at our local college… 🤦♀️
The only really popular right wing guy I know is Nick Fuentes but that's because he pushes things to the extreme and says things that are provocative.
Basically if you want to interest young people you have to be as far from what you think would appeal to a "normal" person as possible. Zoomers generally hate society and cliché talking points.
Another thing, typical economic messaging really doesn't appeal to gen z. Even the most conservative zoomers can't stand traditionally conservative economics and hate the Ronald Reagan stuff.
I want to make sure I understand fully what you’re saying when you say that most Zoomers hate society. Does that mean that they do not see themselves as a part of something larger than themselves?
I remember seeing what my parent wore and thinking how it made them look old, as there was a clear difference in how I dressed and how they did. What or how do genX / mellinials dress that tells you they are old? Or does this not exist for your generation?
When men are bald and wear flip flops and cargo shorts and a t-shirt it's the most gen-x thing ever. That and millennial women having weird looking faces from botox and lip filler.
If changing hair color has replaced botox, fillers and plastic surgery, that is a win in my opinion. In general, I personally really like the artistry of some of those colored hairstyles though, concerned about constantly dousing head in random chemicals over the years, crazy and fun colors or normal ones, they do soak into the system and all.
They do think it looks good. And when it’s time to do it again, they get more than the last time completely changing their appearance. Their faces look bloated imo…and it’s expensive!!! I don’t get it either!!
Do zoomers use Tiktok on a regular basis, and do they understand that:
Tiktok is owned by ByteDance, which is effectively owned by the Chinese government, giving the Chinese Communist Party user-specific data which is not only tailored to the exact interests of every user on the app, but includes other non-TikTok information on your phone as well, to the extent that government employees are not allowed to have it on their phones in many countries?
The American version of TikTok is banned in China, because the government realizes that the Tiktok algorithm can be altered and manipulated to push harmful content onto users, such as pro-trans content, effectively reducing the US population by convincing impressionable children to mutilate themselves or not have kids in general? This is an extreme example, but China literally has a button they can push to elevate certain types of content. While American kids are gawking at dance videos, Chinese kids are seeing inspiring educational content on their version of TikTok. Do Zoomers understand how this platform can and is being used for mass brainwashing?
Yeah most zoomers use tiktok. People don't really care about China since they seem to make everything anyway. It's just seen as a futuristic country that's a little bit sus when it comes to human rights and stuff.
The notion that the majority of anons online are elderly is most likely a 4am talking point. Bullshit started years ago to "discredit" anon's contributions on social media.
The "ok boomer..." meme is social media propaganda directed towards 50 & younger NPCs.
Anons encompass all age demographics. We are everywhere. Nationalism & conservatism is the majority populist opinion, always has been.
This is also the reason why the MSM & Hollyweird are the #1 enemy of the people. They've gone far beyond just placating a significant percentage of participants.... They can effectively mold them.
I wouldn't even hire myself if I'm being honest. Most people I know hate work more than they like being alive. This generation hates feeling like a cog in the machine more than anything.
Being born into the technology age/era, do you feel that Gen Z take everything printed/stated on the internet as the “undisputed “ truth? Do you think there is a lack of critical thinking or questioning of the news/narrative? Do you believe the current education system enhances or “disables “ young people for the future? Anything else you want to add (educating the older generations) please do so. Thank you for the opportunity to ask questions.
No one really trusts anything since we get a constant stream of different narratives all the time on social media. Most zoomers don't even believe that truth exists. It's seen as everyone having their own different opinions that can be equally true.
Honestly education is so boring the only thing I think it achieves is making everyone less curious. We don't learn anything in school. It's extremely repetitive and not really that valuable imo. We just learn a bunch of random facts that have no connection and everyone forgets them as soon as possible. It's really all short term memorization.
Regarding education, do you think it has anything to do with how the teachers “teach”? Watching my niece go through the education system and graduating this year, it appeared like teachers do less “teaching “ and the online lessons do the teaching. Is that an accurate assessment? If a teacher does not connect the learning subjects to real life situations and experience I could see how students see the subjects as useless. Again it’s a situation of no interpersonal interaction. How much do you think the loss of the traditional teacher/student experience is to blame for boredom and lack of interest?
It's true most of the stuff we do is prepackaged and the teachers don't even seem to actually know about the things they're teaching. I feel like you could cut out everything taught after 5th grade and everyone would have the exact same level of knowledge. People who are curious will keep learning and everyone else would get on with their lives.
Thank you for your responses. I find your above response unsurprising yet sad. On a slightly different subject I have started to discuss some of the more controversial subjects in front of my niece and her friends. The more far-fetched things I mention the more interested they seem to be. For example, I will mention BO & Big Mike, human/child trafficking & celebrity involvement, adrenochrome, I will explain what has been told publicly and what I have found with digging/researching. They ask questions. Not sure how long the discussion stays with them…
Yeah that's pretty true. Mainstream talking points never appeal to zoomers. Stuff about the GDP, low taxes and Ronald Reagan won't appeal to anyone under the age of 40. Most of us expect to own nothing after our parents die and no one has faith in "progress" or prosperity anymore. The darker the rhetoric, the more it will stick for sure.
Re: education - why is it that, given the chance to exercise creative freedom and offer ideas about the arts, literature, or music in the most neutral, non-threatening forums, gen z-ers resort to regurgitating AI or whatever work they can buy online for $5.99? I understand it's totally out of hand, factually wrong, and that there seems to be no shame in it. I get that a lot of education is a short-term memory exercise, but blatant cut-and-pasting makes overworked, underpaid, non-unionized teachers who don't consider their classes liberal support groups sad and disillusioned. Please give me something hopeful to say to the ones I know.
I think a big problem is that we're forced to do it and it's graded. I hate doing projects about things that I'm actually interested in because it just makes it feel artificial ig. More often than not school just feels like a factory for turning out shit work to get an abstract grade that no one cares about for it's own sake. I think it's a product of education becoming a means to an end instead of an end in itself. It kills all real curiosity. We're there so we can get a diploma and make more money in the future, not because we're supposed to have our questions answered.
Thanks for the reply. From what I've been told, most z-ers do see education as a means to an end and never internalize the value of the process. The sad part is that when they get to the end, they won't know where to start because they've never taken the time to think for themselves or own their ideas. I hope you find the process of your education - college, trade school, whatever - of as much value as the privilege of the creds that enable you to put it to use.
Thank you. I've started reading on my own and learning a lot more than I ever did in school. It's also worth saying that school has to teach at a level that literally everyone can understand so everything is tailored to the lowest common dominator.
I've heard that too, and I understand the bar has to be very low. My teacher friends tell me that if they fail someone, they actually need to make a case for it - fill out paperwork, provide evidence, the whole nine yards. I'm glad you didn't get bogged down by that garbage. Keep reading and keep learning, stay curious, and all the best to you, fren.
Social engineering. You spend your youth growing up with interactive & nostalgic mediums influencing anything, especially sex, and you'll see it reflected in society.
3-5% is about what I would expect. Pretty standard estimates for decades. So cool to be queer I guess, if that many are claiming it. Would imagine many are lugs (les until grad) and by the time they grow up many will be hetero and having babies.
Cheers for putting yourself out there for questions!
Climate change is way overhyped as a concern. There are a few activists but for most zoomers climate change is just something they vaguely think might be a problem down the line. Not serious enough for actual life changing action though.
Serious question:
As a leader in our local Patriot Group and the wife of the new chair of our county GOP (patriots took over our local party), WHAT will fire up our youth enough to get them engaged in this fight? We’re really struggling with this.
Heads up anon. Careful not to dox yourself.
Thanks. Something tells me this is not a genuine conversation.
It's always safe to take the Mulder approach: Trust no one.
Most people I know aren't really that political. They can be culturally conservative (usually boys) or culturally liberal (usually girls) but I don't really know anyone who's interested in elections or government stuff. Getting zoomers to be interested in politics is gonna be really hard.
Are you political? Are you Male or Female?
This is not a snide question - it’s genuine, and I’m trying to understand your generation and what makes you think…Why are YOU here on GAW?
I'm a guy. I'm a bit different cuz I've kind of always been interested in politics. I used to know everything about the presidents when I was a kid and thought Trump was hilarious during the first debates. I spent a lot of time trolling people on reddit and YouTube and just being involved with the right wing online culture in general. I moved from the_donald on reddit to pdw and then found gaw.
So I'm not really a normal example. Most zoomers are more into memes than actual politics as was I for a long time.
So, in your opinion, is there a topic that would engage them if they understood what was actually happening? Or is this a waste of time and energy to even consider?
We can’t even engage the Young Republicans at our local college… 🤦♀️
The only really popular right wing guy I know is Nick Fuentes but that's because he pushes things to the extreme and says things that are provocative.
Basically if you want to interest young people you have to be as far from what you think would appeal to a "normal" person as possible. Zoomers generally hate society and cliché talking points.
Another thing, typical economic messaging really doesn't appeal to gen z. Even the most conservative zoomers can't stand traditionally conservative economics and hate the Ronald Reagan stuff.
I want to make sure I understand fully what you’re saying when you say that most Zoomers hate society. Does that mean that they do not see themselves as a part of something larger than themselves?
Yeah that's pretty much accurate.
Would evidence of crimes against humanity or crimes against children fire them up? Or would they react with “meh” even to that?
Yeah I mean everyone knows about Epstein and stuff but it's just a meme. People think it's funny.
I remember seeing what my parent wore and thinking how it made them look old, as there was a clear difference in how I dressed and how they did. What or how do genX / mellinials dress that tells you they are old? Or does this not exist for your generation?
When men are bald and wear flip flops and cargo shorts and a t-shirt it's the most gen-x thing ever. That and millennial women having weird looking faces from botox and lip filler.
lol, bot bald but cargo shorts, t shirt and flops is me all day. And yes I am X, good call. 🤣
If changing hair color has replaced botox, fillers and plastic surgery, that is a win in my opinion. In general, I personally really like the artistry of some of those colored hairstyles though, concerned about constantly dousing head in random chemicals over the years, crazy and fun colors or normal ones, they do soak into the system and all.
I typically wear a black shirt, black shorts and black flip flops. I have hair. Is that genX?
Yup
Lol
What would make it gen-Z
This
Crazy hair? I'm afraid I would end up looking like a member of insync if I did that.
My Millennial girl friend group is Botox and fillers as far as the eye can see 🤣 ded 💀
Bruh what's with that 💀
There's no way they think that stuff looks good lol
They do think it looks good. And when it’s time to do it again, they get more than the last time completely changing their appearance. Their faces look bloated imo…and it’s expensive!!! I don’t get it either!!
That's just sad. It's already coming out of style cuz botox and the goofy eyebrows just screams 36 years old.
Do zoomers use Tiktok on a regular basis, and do they understand that:
Tiktok is owned by ByteDance, which is effectively owned by the Chinese government, giving the Chinese Communist Party user-specific data which is not only tailored to the exact interests of every user on the app, but includes other non-TikTok information on your phone as well, to the extent that government employees are not allowed to have it on their phones in many countries?
The American version of TikTok is banned in China, because the government realizes that the Tiktok algorithm can be altered and manipulated to push harmful content onto users, such as pro-trans content, effectively reducing the US population by convincing impressionable children to mutilate themselves or not have kids in general? This is an extreme example, but China literally has a button they can push to elevate certain types of content. While American kids are gawking at dance videos, Chinese kids are seeing inspiring educational content on their version of TikTok. Do Zoomers understand how this platform can and is being used for mass brainwashing?
Yeah most zoomers use tiktok. People don't really care about China since they seem to make everything anyway. It's just seen as a futuristic country that's a little bit sus when it comes to human rights and stuff.
That is very concerning to me. Tiktok's influence on the future of our children and our country can't be overstated in my opinion.
To help us understand your position, and if you don't mind, please share how old you are, and if you're in school, what grade you're in.
I'm 17 and a senior in high school
The notion that the majority of anons online are elderly is most likely a 4am talking point. Bullshit started years ago to "discredit" anon's contributions on social media.
The "ok boomer..." meme is social media propaganda directed towards 50 & younger NPCs.
Anons encompass all age demographics. We are everywhere. Nationalism & conservatism is the majority populist opinion, always has been.
This is also the reason why the MSM & Hollyweird are the #1 enemy of the people. They've gone far beyond just placating a significant percentage of participants.... They can effectively mold them.
If you owned your own company, lets say you employ 100 people. Would you hire Gen-Z and why?
I am just hoping to find out what you think older generations are getting wrong about Gen-Z?
Thanks for doing this BTW
I wouldn't even hire myself if I'm being honest. Most people I know hate work more than they like being alive. This generation hates feeling like a cog in the machine more than anything.
What do the kids of your age think about Biden?
No one really likes him. A few guys like Trump but most are just apolitical and think politics is stupid.
Being born into the technology age/era, do you feel that Gen Z take everything printed/stated on the internet as the “undisputed “ truth? Do you think there is a lack of critical thinking or questioning of the news/narrative? Do you believe the current education system enhances or “disables “ young people for the future? Anything else you want to add (educating the older generations) please do so. Thank you for the opportunity to ask questions.
No one really trusts anything since we get a constant stream of different narratives all the time on social media. Most zoomers don't even believe that truth exists. It's seen as everyone having their own different opinions that can be equally true.
Honestly education is so boring the only thing I think it achieves is making everyone less curious. We don't learn anything in school. It's extremely repetitive and not really that valuable imo. We just learn a bunch of random facts that have no connection and everyone forgets them as soon as possible. It's really all short term memorization.
Regarding education, do you think it has anything to do with how the teachers “teach”? Watching my niece go through the education system and graduating this year, it appeared like teachers do less “teaching “ and the online lessons do the teaching. Is that an accurate assessment? If a teacher does not connect the learning subjects to real life situations and experience I could see how students see the subjects as useless. Again it’s a situation of no interpersonal interaction. How much do you think the loss of the traditional teacher/student experience is to blame for boredom and lack of interest?
It's true most of the stuff we do is prepackaged and the teachers don't even seem to actually know about the things they're teaching. I feel like you could cut out everything taught after 5th grade and everyone would have the exact same level of knowledge. People who are curious will keep learning and everyone else would get on with their lives.
Thank you for your responses. I find your above response unsurprising yet sad. On a slightly different subject I have started to discuss some of the more controversial subjects in front of my niece and her friends. The more far-fetched things I mention the more interested they seem to be. For example, I will mention BO & Big Mike, human/child trafficking & celebrity involvement, adrenochrome, I will explain what has been told publicly and what I have found with digging/researching. They ask questions. Not sure how long the discussion stays with them…
Yeah that's pretty true. Mainstream talking points never appeal to zoomers. Stuff about the GDP, low taxes and Ronald Reagan won't appeal to anyone under the age of 40. Most of us expect to own nothing after our parents die and no one has faith in "progress" or prosperity anymore. The darker the rhetoric, the more it will stick for sure.
Is there any meaning to the various strange hair dye jobs or should they all just be considered aposematic coloration?
It's just the style right now. Girls always change their hair colors for some reason.
Re: education - why is it that, given the chance to exercise creative freedom and offer ideas about the arts, literature, or music in the most neutral, non-threatening forums, gen z-ers resort to regurgitating AI or whatever work they can buy online for $5.99? I understand it's totally out of hand, factually wrong, and that there seems to be no shame in it. I get that a lot of education is a short-term memory exercise, but blatant cut-and-pasting makes overworked, underpaid, non-unionized teachers who don't consider their classes liberal support groups sad and disillusioned. Please give me something hopeful to say to the ones I know.
I think a big problem is that we're forced to do it and it's graded. I hate doing projects about things that I'm actually interested in because it just makes it feel artificial ig. More often than not school just feels like a factory for turning out shit work to get an abstract grade that no one cares about for it's own sake. I think it's a product of education becoming a means to an end instead of an end in itself. It kills all real curiosity. We're there so we can get a diploma and make more money in the future, not because we're supposed to have our questions answered.
Thanks for the reply. From what I've been told, most z-ers do see education as a means to an end and never internalize the value of the process. The sad part is that when they get to the end, they won't know where to start because they've never taken the time to think for themselves or own their ideas. I hope you find the process of your education - college, trade school, whatever - of as much value as the privilege of the creds that enable you to put it to use.
Thank you. I've started reading on my own and learning a lot more than I ever did in school. It's also worth saying that school has to teach at a level that literally everyone can understand so everything is tailored to the lowest common dominator.
I've heard that too, and I understand the bar has to be very low. My teacher friends tell me that if they fail someone, they actually need to make a case for it - fill out paperwork, provide evidence, the whole nine yards. I'm glad you didn't get bogged down by that garbage. Keep reading and keep learning, stay curious, and all the best to you, fren.
Thanks :)
Why y'all so gay? 20% +.
Do you think it's a social contagion? Cool to be queer? Brainwashing?
From my experience maybe 5% of guys are gay or bi and more than half of the girls are. Or at least they claim to be.
Social engineering. You spend your youth growing up with interactive & nostalgic mediums influencing anything, especially sex, and you'll see it reflected in society.
3-5% is about what I would expect. Pretty standard estimates for decades. So cool to be queer I guess, if that many are claiming it. Would imagine many are lugs (les until grad) and by the time they grow up many will be hetero and having babies.
Cheers for putting yourself out there for questions!
Thanks :)
Why can't you guys grow chest hair or filled-out beards?
Some of us can
When did your husband/wife/partner kill themself?