The problem here is that to achieve an insurmountable, fraud proof victory in 2024, we need the many left leaning independents and disaffected Dems, blacks and hispanics, to vote for Trump. RFK isnt taking any of us but our numbers have already proven to be within the margin for an effective and explained away fraud. We need every single vote possible for Trump to be able to swamp their mail in, vote harvesting ground game and we will still require whatever tactics were used in 2016 to stop the digital algorithms.
RFK as an independent steals many Trump votes away. The mere fact he declared as an independent so early in the process, many months before a single primary, should throw up all kinds of red flags.
Really, I thought we had more emotionless, logical thought on this site but RFK and the solitary issue we agree with him on is a blind spot I guess.
You don’t reform the Democrat Party by running as an independent. And, you don’t run as an independent thinking you can win.
But, RFK Jr. isn’t trying to reform the Democrat Party, he’s trying to save it from defeat. He’s not running to win, he running with the hope he creates the illusion he pulled a decisive amount of swing voters away from President Trump.
Its pretty much what has been illustrated from the video. If there was no voter fraud or if it was reduced to normal levels instead of insane steal levels going on currently, yes RFK would be benefitting Trump.
However with the insane stealing going on, this is just a smoke screen to hide their voter fraud with plausible, reasonable deniability that Trump voters voted for RFK, giving Biden the win.
I never thought he was so not surprised one bit. Always thought he was there to steal some of the “never Trump” or the “I hate his tweets” votes. Running as an independent just confirms that.
Kind of. The difference is - the primary process. Everyone seems to be forgetting this. RFKJR can't hurt Trump in a primary since Jr is an I and Trump is an R. Different primaries. If Jr stayed a dem he could absolutely hurt Biden in the primary though.
Because he is now an I, he can hurt both Biden and Trump in the general.
Ron can only "hurt" Trump in the primary, and has literally zero chance to do that. Once the primaries are over and Trump is the nominee Ron is out of the picture unless he too decides to run as an I.
I think Jr became an I for 2 reasons - to get out from under the DNC and their rules and dirty tricks against him, and to get votes from never-Trumpers. He knows Biden will cheat again, so maybe he is helping Biden by pulling more votes from the RINO crowd.
I know a bunch of people on here seem to love RFK Jr but for the life of me I can't figure out why.
RFK fucking rules can we all take a moment to remember this guy is using his presidential campaign to expose his father and uncle's murderers?
A popular presidential candidate in the US right now is going on every podcast in existence and calling out the cabal.
He doesn't have to be a perfect man, there is NO CHANCE they want this guy going around exposing what they did to RFK and JFK and theres NO CHANCE they want this guy anywhere near a government position.
I personally predict he will be Trump's Attorney General, just like RFK was JFK's AG.
As AG RFK Jr. could bring true, legal, by the book justice to these clowns
Cool story bro. He’s positioned perfectly to pull votes from Biden and he’s the only other politician alive aside from Trump and Ron Paul who actually tells the truth as they see it. That’s all the friendly I need.
Anyone who is a Trump supporter isn't voting for RFK Jr.
These talking heads just want to stir up garbage.
Exactly!
Boom , there it is!
The problem here is that to achieve an insurmountable, fraud proof victory in 2024, we need the many left leaning independents and disaffected Dems, blacks and hispanics, to vote for Trump. RFK isnt taking any of us but our numbers have already proven to be within the margin for an effective and explained away fraud. We need every single vote possible for Trump to be able to swamp their mail in, vote harvesting ground game and we will still require whatever tactics were used in 2016 to stop the digital algorithms.
RFK as an independent steals many Trump votes away. The mere fact he declared as an independent so early in the process, many months before a single primary, should throw up all kinds of red flags.
Really, I thought we had more emotionless, logical thought on this site but RFK and the solitary issue we agree with him on is a blind spot I guess.
Not going to happen. I know many blacks and independents voting Trump. They are not switching and i am sure this is the case.
Besides if you like Trump and what he stands for there is no way in hell you will back RFK Jr. when you realize what he is for.
You don’t reform the Democrat Party by running as an independent. And, you don’t run as an independent thinking you can win.
But, RFK Jr. isn’t trying to reform the Democrat Party, he’s trying to save it from defeat. He’s not running to win, he running with the hope he creates the illusion he pulled a decisive amount of swing voters away from President Trump.
Its pretty much what has been illustrated from the video. If there was no voter fraud or if it was reduced to normal levels instead of insane steal levels going on currently, yes RFK would be benefitting Trump.
However with the insane stealing going on, this is just a smoke screen to hide their voter fraud with plausible, reasonable deniability that Trump voters voted for RFK, giving Biden the win.
Nah.
Exactly this.
YES. Abso-freaking-lutely. This.^^^^^
Ah, so he's a traitor to his country like the rest of the uniparty. Not shocked.
RFK is just trying to wake people up IMO. He can’t win and he knows it. DeSantis is a feeble deep states attempt to win.
OP here: lots of swearing here, but he is on point.
Razorfist is quite the wordsmith. Listening to him shit all over gaming lefties is truly a pleasure.
I never thought he was so not surprised one bit. Always thought he was there to steal some of the “never Trump” or the “I hate his tweets” votes. Running as an independent just confirms that.
Some of that can be said about Ronnie boy too.
Kind of. The difference is - the primary process. Everyone seems to be forgetting this. RFKJR can't hurt Trump in a primary since Jr is an I and Trump is an R. Different primaries. If Jr stayed a dem he could absolutely hurt Biden in the primary though.
Because he is now an I, he can hurt both Biden and Trump in the general.
Ron can only "hurt" Trump in the primary, and has literally zero chance to do that. Once the primaries are over and Trump is the nominee Ron is out of the picture unless he too decides to run as an I.
I think Jr became an I for 2 reasons - to get out from under the DNC and their rules and dirty tricks against him, and to get votes from never-Trumpers. He knows Biden will cheat again, so maybe he is helping Biden by pulling more votes from the RINO crowd.
I know a bunch of people on here seem to love RFK Jr but for the life of me I can't figure out why.
He won't hurt Trump. No one can hurt Trump.
Good point on the primary aspect.
“I know a bunch of people on here seem to love RFK Jr but for the life of me I can't figure out why.”
I’m with you on this one, I can’t figure out why either.
RFK fucking rules can we all take a moment to remember this guy is using his presidential campaign to expose his father and uncle's murderers?
A popular presidential candidate in the US right now is going on every podcast in existence and calling out the cabal.
He doesn't have to be a perfect man, there is NO CHANCE they want this guy going around exposing what they did to RFK and JFK and theres NO CHANCE they want this guy anywhere near a government position.
I personally predict he will be Trump's Attorney General, just like RFK was JFK's AG.
As AG RFK Jr. could bring true, legal, by the book justice to these clowns
Cool story bro. He’s positioned perfectly to pull votes from Biden and he’s the only other politician alive aside from Trump and Ron Paul who actually tells the truth as they see it. That’s all the friendly I need.
This recent poll shows RFK taking more votes away from Trump than Biden
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/the-2024-presidential-contest/