There is no chosen tribe any longer. Jesus Christ made it clear, God eternal has no chosen among the peoples other than those who follow and accept the teachings of Christ.
Yeah, well, some of the chosen tribe never agreed to this and still to this day think they are chosen and are still waiting for their messiah. In their mind, the King of Kings should've taken over the world and ruled it and not sacrificed himself.
I just read a whole thing about how St. Peter specifically dined with gentiles and considered them equals. He faltered a lot, and once avoided dining with gentiles in the presence of converted Jews because he thought it would rub them the wrong way and it would hurt his conversion goals amongst them— and this caused some confusion, so he had to go and clear things up later. The Bible very clearly states that there are no "chosen ones" anymore, except for all those who have faith in Jesus Christ and obey his commandments. These are the only criteria for being saved and held in high regard by God. Any other take is blasphemy.
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Death? It was the Son of the true God who gave his life. GOD the Father never died. Also, Jesus Christ was raised from the dead by God and still lives. WE serve a living Savior
PreserveMF, it is my understanding from reading the Bible that when Jesus died, he went to hell and "PREACHED SALVATION" to those held in Paradise......those in paradise were the ones who worship God previously. If they accept Him they also rose from the grave with him when He came up out of the grave. After that, people did not go to Paradise..........you either accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and go to heaven OR you don't and by not accepting Him you choose to go to hell. God gives His WAY to people and every person makes their own choice....heaven or hell. The Bible also says that when a Believer IN Jesus dies this is what happens..........TO BE ABSENT FROM THE BODY IS TO BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD. Hope this helps. People don't realize it but when you give our life to the Lord Jesus, He comes into you and begins, by the work of the Holy Spirit, to change your heart, your attitude and everything about you.......because He loves you so much He wants you to be free of all intanglements of the past. JESUS LOVES YOU.
Actually Jesus raised himself. Go read the gospel of John. The keys of life and death have been given to the son. He wasn’t resurrected, he did it himself.
I'm America first. I believe in countries sorting out their own shit, especially if they participate in waving swords and instigating things as Israel has been a part of with us as their shield.
I would be more willing to defend an ally like Japan (we actually would have to do so as part of a generational agreement after WW2, as we stripped Japan of a true standing military beyond their self defense force) explicitly because Japan isn't deliberately inflaming other countries but rather just focusing on itself and its economy.
What irks me about Israel is that they have taunted Palestine for years because they want the land, and everything going on is fishy as hell on top of that.
They are also running propaganda like Ukraine that makes themselves seem the victims and ignores the victims of their retaliations.
Israel seems like the Obama way of doing things: Kill innocents, play the victim, say "oopsies" while they radicalize future generations and create more future terroristic zealots.
The Trump way was best: No innocents, targeted kills, and big payloads for effect. You radicalize fewer if you stay on target.
There are white hats and black hats at play within this conflict. Seems a bit naive or narrative pushy to be taking sides at this point. The truth takes time.
Yes I have. When the "Jews" went into captivity there was a lot of intermarrying/mixing between them and the "pagan" peoples in the lands they were led away to. Even going back as far as Moses we read that he married an Ethiopian woman. That was quite the scandal at the time. Then if you look in the bloodline of Jesus you will see Rahab (a Canaanite prostitute). Then you have Ruth who was a Moabite.
Always confused me how many religious people say the 'Jews' are the Chosen, but the Chosen were the 12 Tribes of Israel from Jacobs bloodline, not specifically the Jews. In fact todays Jews seem to be a mix of Edomites from Esaus line who were prevalent in Judea at the time of Christ (Herod was one as were Pharisees and Levites - in fact Jesus said his message wasn't for them), and Khazarians (current area of Crimea & Ukraine) who have no genetic link to the land of Israel as they were converts.
In fact Arthur Koestler, himself a Khazarian Jew, wrote a book called The Thirteenth Tribe where he called the whole 'Jews are the Chosen' and Israel is theirs 'the crueliet lie'. Needless to say he and his wife were found 'suicided' shortly after publication.
They basically reinvented Hebrew language which was a dead language for over 800 years at the time of Jesus (Christ spoke Aramaic) and there was no mention of the Star Of David in the Bible.
Not only did Jesus warn about those who say they are Jews and are not, but of the Synagogue of Satan, but it was also hinted at in the New Testament
ACTS 7:43
"Yes, you took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your God Remphan, figures which you made up to worship them..."
Todays 'Jews' are not The Chosen Ones and they've basically hijacked Judaism, turned it into Talmudism. Of course many ordinary Jews have no idea who is mingling among them and using them for their Agenda.
Many in America use the Scofield Bible, which was deliberately altered in the early 20th century to make Israel the Promised Land of the 'Jews', and must be supported by Christians so all the Evangelicals and similar will demand Israel and Jews are supported above all because of that 'cruellest lie'
Here is what a Rhabi says "1 - Yes, one can convert to Judaism.
2 - Indeed, Jews believe that God has chosen the Jewish people - and assigned to them specific tasks in order to bring blessing to the world (and we’ve come a long way in the past three to four thousand years). For anyone who doubts that, see Deuteronomy 7:6–9, and note that the daily Jewish prayers include a blessing that concludes “Blessed are You, transcendental God, Who has chosen His people Israel lovingly.”
3 - The above lead to the conclusion that, indeed, one can choose to be a member of the chosen people (by taking on their covenant with God, which includes the above-mentioned long-range and short-range goals of bringing assorted blessings to all peoples on earth).
Thus, that means that in order to become a member of the chosen people you MUST REJECT JESUS. Hoe messed up is it that Christians agree that this makes yiu a chosen person
Yes you absolutely can convert to Judaism. You could in Jesus' day as well as today. In Jesus' day they were called "Jewish proselytes". Today, in most synagogues, there is a conversion process that anyone can go thru to become a "Jew". In Jesus' day the scribes and Pharisees boasted that "we have Abraham for our father". Ishmael was also a son of Abraham. So his descendants (Arabs/Palestinians?) can make the same claim. I love what Paul the Apostle wrote in Romans: "But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." (Romans 2:29 KJV). Today there's only one kind of "Jew" - all those who have accepted Jesus of Nazareth as their Messiah.
Israels government is rotten to the core. They control most politicians in America and other countries due to blackmail but this does not mean Israel is not God's land or His people. Israel will suffer the Tribulation and lose 2/3rds of it's people before they repent. Biblical times ahead.
Well, since a Jewish follower is a person who denies The Christ, I'd say they rejected God's deliverance. For those who did accept Christ we are now God's chosen. Israel was supposed to embrace Christ. This man made nation of Israel is just another counterfeit. Having said that, the people there, both sides deserve to live. They are whose side I'm on. Governments can go to hell.
John the Apostle actually referred to them as "antichrist". Read all 4 scriptures in 1st and 2nd John that contain the words "antichrist" or "antichrists".
In other words they understand Paul's teaching in Romans and Galatians! A lot of false doctrine was introduced into the church around 1830 with the publication of the Scofield Reference Bible and of course the preaching of John Nelson Darby.
We know who is really behind this and why. Kek
Its actually the Israelites first...not the territory/country of Israel (in this conflict).
Jesus first
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USA First!
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I've always questioned why we dump so much money into Israel in the first place.
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There is no chosen tribe any longer. Jesus Christ made it clear, God eternal has no chosen among the peoples other than those who follow and accept the teachings of Christ.
Yeah, well, some of the chosen tribe never agreed to this and still to this day think they are chosen and are still waiting for their messiah. In their mind, the King of Kings should've taken over the world and ruled it and not sacrificed himself.
I just read a whole thing about how St. Peter specifically dined with gentiles and considered them equals. He faltered a lot, and once avoided dining with gentiles in the presence of converted Jews because he thought it would rub them the wrong way and it would hurt his conversion goals amongst them— and this caused some confusion, so he had to go and clear things up later. The Bible very clearly states that there are no "chosen ones" anymore, except for all those who have faith in Jesus Christ and obey his commandments. These are the only criteria for being saved and held in high regard by God. Any other take is blasphemy.
— Ecclesiastes 12:13
I agree. God's chosen people believe in Jesus Christ. We are all equal - all the same - all able to believe in Christ as our Lord and Savior.
Seems hard to imagine that everyone was not saved who worshipped the true God before his death?
Death? It was the Son of the true God who gave his life. GOD the Father never died. Also, Jesus Christ was raised from the dead by God and still lives. WE serve a living Savior
Ok I'm refering to people of the book previous to Jesus death an resurection. Did these people enter heaven and where they accept by the father?
PreserveMF, it is my understanding from reading the Bible that when Jesus died, he went to hell and "PREACHED SALVATION" to those held in Paradise......those in paradise were the ones who worship God previously. If they accept Him they also rose from the grave with him when He came up out of the grave. After that, people did not go to Paradise..........you either accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and go to heaven OR you don't and by not accepting Him you choose to go to hell. God gives His WAY to people and every person makes their own choice....heaven or hell. The Bible also says that when a Believer IN Jesus dies this is what happens..........TO BE ABSENT FROM THE BODY IS TO BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD. Hope this helps. People don't realize it but when you give our life to the Lord Jesus, He comes into you and begins, by the work of the Holy Spirit, to change your heart, your attitude and everything about you.......because He loves you so much He wants you to be free of all intanglements of the past. JESUS LOVES YOU.
It says the will be raised in the resurrection of the just. Because they believed in Christ coming but died before he came.
Thanks I thought something similiar.
Actually Jesus raised himself. Go read the gospel of John. The keys of life and death have been given to the son. He wasn’t resurrected, he did it himself.
I'm America first. I believe in countries sorting out their own shit, especially if they participate in waving swords and instigating things as Israel has been a part of with us as their shield.
I would be more willing to defend an ally like Japan (we actually would have to do so as part of a generational agreement after WW2, as we stripped Japan of a true standing military beyond their self defense force) explicitly because Japan isn't deliberately inflaming other countries but rather just focusing on itself and its economy.
What irks me about Israel is that they have taunted Palestine for years because they want the land, and everything going on is fishy as hell on top of that.
They are also running propaganda like Ukraine that makes themselves seem the victims and ignores the victims of their retaliations.
Israel seems like the Obama way of doing things: Kill innocents, play the victim, say "oopsies" while they radicalize future generations and create more future terroristic zealots.
The Trump way was best: No innocents, targeted kills, and big payloads for effect. You radicalize fewer if you stay on target.
Trump gives off the Zionist vibe tho. I hope he isn’t. But his public support seems Zionist.
Logical thinking is a Q thing.
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God and family. The Word never saw us as citizens of a government.
America first!
There are white hats and black hats at play within this conflict. Seems a bit naive or narrative pushy to be taking sides at this point. The truth takes time.
Keep in mind the bible was rewritten. https://rumble.com/v3pr62s-must-see-the-mystery-of-israel-solved.html
We don’t trust Dr’s around here…
How can you say, "We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us"? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (Jeremiah 8:8)
Stop.
Has anyone made the connection that maybe the Israelites in the bible represent all of humanity?
Yes I have. When the "Jews" went into captivity there was a lot of intermarrying/mixing between them and the "pagan" peoples in the lands they were led away to. Even going back as far as Moses we read that he married an Ethiopian woman. That was quite the scandal at the time. Then if you look in the bloodline of Jesus you will see Rahab (a Canaanite prostitute). Then you have Ruth who was a Moabite.
Yes this is true so it can't be. But maybe we all have a origin story similiar where our peoples are the Israelites and gods chosen people.
Always confused me how many religious people say the 'Jews' are the Chosen, but the Chosen were the 12 Tribes of Israel from Jacobs bloodline, not specifically the Jews. In fact todays Jews seem to be a mix of Edomites from Esaus line who were prevalent in Judea at the time of Christ (Herod was one as were Pharisees and Levites - in fact Jesus said his message wasn't for them), and Khazarians (current area of Crimea & Ukraine) who have no genetic link to the land of Israel as they were converts.
In fact Arthur Koestler, himself a Khazarian Jew, wrote a book called The Thirteenth Tribe where he called the whole 'Jews are the Chosen' and Israel is theirs 'the crueliet lie'. Needless to say he and his wife were found 'suicided' shortly after publication.
They basically reinvented Hebrew language which was a dead language for over 800 years at the time of Jesus (Christ spoke Aramaic) and there was no mention of the Star Of David in the Bible.
Not only did Jesus warn about those who say they are Jews and are not, but of the Synagogue of Satan, but it was also hinted at in the New Testament
ACTS 7:43
"Yes, you took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your God Remphan, figures which you made up to worship them..."
Todays 'Jews' are not The Chosen Ones and they've basically hijacked Judaism, turned it into Talmudism. Of course many ordinary Jews have no idea who is mingling among them and using them for their Agenda.
Many in America use the Scofield Bible, which was deliberately altered in the early 20th century to make Israel the Promised Land of the 'Jews', and must be supported by Christians so all the Evangelicals and similar will demand Israel and Jews are supported above all because of that 'cruellest lie'
Here is what a Rhabi says "1 - Yes, one can convert to Judaism.
2 - Indeed, Jews believe that God has chosen the Jewish people - and assigned to them specific tasks in order to bring blessing to the world (and we’ve come a long way in the past three to four thousand years). For anyone who doubts that, see Deuteronomy 7:6–9, and note that the daily Jewish prayers include a blessing that concludes “Blessed are You, transcendental God, Who has chosen His people Israel lovingly.”
3 - The above lead to the conclusion that, indeed, one can choose to be a member of the chosen people (by taking on their covenant with God, which includes the above-mentioned long-range and short-range goals of bringing assorted blessings to all peoples on earth).
Thus, that means that in order to become a member of the chosen people you MUST REJECT JESUS. Hoe messed up is it that Christians agree that this makes yiu a chosen person
Yes you absolutely can convert to Judaism. You could in Jesus' day as well as today. In Jesus' day they were called "Jewish proselytes". Today, in most synagogues, there is a conversion process that anyone can go thru to become a "Jew". In Jesus' day the scribes and Pharisees boasted that "we have Abraham for our father". Ishmael was also a son of Abraham. So his descendants (Arabs/Palestinians?) can make the same claim. I love what Paul the Apostle wrote in Romans: "But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." (Romans 2:29 KJV). Today there's only one kind of "Jew" - all those who have accepted Jesus of Nazareth as their Messiah.
The moderators here used to kick off people for pointing out the jewish influence on everything.
Israels government is rotten to the core. They control most politicians in America and other countries due to blackmail but this does not mean Israel is not God's land or His people. Israel will suffer the Tribulation and lose 2/3rds of it's people before they repent. Biblical times ahead.
Well, since a Jewish follower is a person who denies The Christ, I'd say they rejected God's deliverance. For those who did accept Christ we are now God's chosen. Israel was supposed to embrace Christ. This man made nation of Israel is just another counterfeit. Having said that, the people there, both sides deserve to live. They are whose side I'm on. Governments can go to hell.
John the Apostle actually referred to them as "antichrist". Read all 4 scriptures in 1st and 2nd John that contain the words "antichrist" or "antichrists".
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It's ok.
In other words they understand Paul's teaching in Romans and Galatians! A lot of false doctrine was introduced into the church around 1830 with the publication of the Scofield Reference Bible and of course the preaching of John Nelson Darby.
Did you mean "is" rather than "isn't" ?
Its America first.
Analytical minds. So refreshing.
Israel LAST, not first
Q post 916 10-Mar-2018 7:04:36 PM CET 8ch/qresearch 613193 We are saving Israel for last. Very specific reason not mentioned a single time. Q
Fuck both sides.