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What “Cash for Clunkers” Was Really All About (Obama lie, are you surprised?) (www.ericpetersautos.com)
posted 2 years ago by brain_dead 2 years ago by brain_dead +117 / -0
What "Cash for Clunkers" Was Really All About - EPautos - Libertarian Car Talk
Eric Peters is a Libertarian gearhead, columnist and author.
www.ericpetersautos.com
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– propertyofUniverse 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

This happened in the UK too.

I recognised it, I knew that old cars are transport infrastructure, a privately owned and distributed fleet, so the gov was intentionally destroying our private resilience and infrastructure maliciously.

In the UK, young people now often rely on ubers (another part of this scheme) and the rise in taxi driving provides artificial low skilled jobs which are preferentially taken by new immigrants, speeding up population replacement.

All of this reduces the resilience of our society.

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– brain_dead [S] 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

And you don't even have Obummer. It's all WEF and DS plan. I see it clearly now.

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– Dudemanfoo 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

They also removed an effective percentage of the cars they can’t shut down remotely from the system

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You got it. What a waste. I want those vehicles.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– MordenGeist 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

...or catches fire, or blows up....or catches fire then blows up.

Told everyone I could EVs were a scam from the jump.

All it takes is a little research.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's why we did not even considered buying. I was looking but decided if I want one, it would be hybrid.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks for the info. I will look at this one. I just didn't like the battery.

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– mightyclaw 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

the rise in taxi driving provides artificial low skilled jobs which are preferentially taken by new immigrants, speeding up population replacement.

I had never thought of that. Keeping low-skilled workers alive and malleable is one of the trickier parts of globalism.

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– Bedminster 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Get rid of all cars with no computers.

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– Latin_Patriot_MAGA 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That's why your old cell phone no longer works.

Because they knew that with that old technology it was very difficult to track you, that's why they have sold us ''ultra modern'' technology which is making it easier for them to track us.

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– Bedminster 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Old cell phones they could triangulate to a general area, new phones can tell what room you're in.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You are correct with that one also.

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– Bigfred 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That's some very probable truth.

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– Dems2Felony 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

They also tried to remove the American car scene which failed miserably.

It was to transform America in many of ways.

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– brain_dead [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

15 minute smart city.

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– frogface PRO 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

A fundamental transformation.

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– UpwardBound 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Some statistics on the number of clunkers destroyed would have been good, and especially to show what percentage of older cars were removed. The author makes it seem like we just can't find cheap used cars any longer and so that is the sole reason why young people have no incentive to drive.

I maintain that this is BS. I can go on Craigslist or FB Marketplace and find a good selection of cheap cars. Additionally, the population of expensive cars get downgraded to cheap cars in just a few years, replenishing the cheap population. The greater reason that so many young people don't want to drive is sheer laziness and lack of ambition. They are perfectly content accomplishing nothing, with their faces pasted to games and social media on the phones or on the computer. They are complacent and comfortable living at home with parents, having all their needs met. This has nothing to do with availability of cheap cars.

I agree that Obama's goal with Cash for Clunkers was to remove affordable cars and possibly to remove low-tech cars that can be easily maintained. But everything Barry did was to weaken the country. As with many things that Obama did, he failed. We will come roaring back and Barry will be brought to justice.

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– mightyclaw 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Agreed; it's a well-known trope that the automobile was an integral part of the post-war American spirit; gradually whittling down the influence of cars is very much in the globalist's interest.

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– yldngo 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I always thought it was to remove "dumb" cars that couldn't be remotely manipulated and replace them with expensive upgraded cars that owners had less sovereignty over. Like "owning" a cell phone...

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– CaJuN-Polak 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I agree, there are many places out there where someone can buy "clunkers", but most people can't fix them themselves anyway. Not to mention, the government and insurance companies are going to slowly increase the cost of ownership on these old cars to the point where you can't afford to own them, anyway.

I'm not implying CASH FOR CLUNKERS didn't have a sinister intent. I'm sure it did. I'm just offering-up an additional consideration that might have been overlooked: our ability to continue to own, repair and drive older vehicles. Lack of capability to repair them. Lack of spare / replacement parts. Etcetera. How long before they shut down the spare / aftermarket parts industries? How long before they make it difficult / illegal to work on your own vehicles? How long before they force the integration of new technology into old(er) vehicles in order to track / control your movements? How long before they will stop licensing your older vehicle because it doesn't meet the latest safety standards? How long before the insurance industry stops insuring your vehicle because the liabilities on them are so high?

They make these moves under the guise of safety or THE COMMON GOOD, but it's nothing but a slow and gradual power grab to manipulate and control you.

Never forget to look deeper than the face value.

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– DRan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The greater reason that so many young people don't want to drive is sheer laziness and lack of ambition. They are perfectly content accomplishing nothing, with their faces pasted to games and social media on the phones or on the computer. They are complacent and comfortable living at home with parents, having all their needs met.

Insurance is expensive, gas is expensive, rent is expensive... In my experience (observation), in a group of X amount of friends one will have a car and they all split the costs of owning/operating. I'm not in a populated area but public transportation is more available and cheaper now too. It's not about laziness or any of that, it's economics and convenience. It's adaptation to the world "they" have created. That is the point to be discussed. Not laziness or ambition.

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– BigMuddyMama 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Makes perfect sense. I took out a tiny $5k loan for my first car, but it taught me fiscal responsibility. This was in 1999.

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– brain_dead [S] 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I have always paid cash until 2018 when I have to finance. Cannot believe we couldn't even afford a used vehicle. Now it's just ridiculous.

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– Factfiler 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The Ford dealership in my town just closed its used cars sales. A few years ago they stopped selling new cars. Now they couldn’t even sell used ones. If you want a new or used car in my area, you have a 20 minute drive to the nearest dealership.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Oh. Sad. Obummer is really the evil one.

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– Bigfred 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Very yes.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I second that one.

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– HODLR 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

that's the year i bought my jeep, and it's still running strong

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– Hope4thefuture 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I think another reason to do away with “clunkers” was to make it a necessity to purchase ars with aGOS and computer chips insuring you could be tracked. Many people bought into the idea of On Star to locate your vehicle if stolen or in an accident, for your “safety” of course. Not that the government or businesses give one tinkers damn about your safety.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Well yes, they don't really care. They just want to know where you are at all time.

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– Huckleberry1776 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It was to destroy the used car market, force people to buy new cars, raise prices making it more difficult to live and eventually force us into the EV controlled dystopian nightmare wet dream of the WEF.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I agree. It's the 15 minute city plan.

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– Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

If I remember correctly Ol'buma's CFC's was also aimed at getting people out of their older "gas gussler's" in order to help reduce Greenhouse gas emissions.

The hope was people would purchase new, smaller vehicles which put out fewer emissions.

As it turned out a good percentage of the new vehicles people were purchasing were SUV's, Pickup's, and such.

I guess that idea "backfired".....

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– brain_dead [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Everything he does has been evil.

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– Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Indeed.

When he (and his pal Bill Ayers) finally leave this place he/they better like the Weather Underground...

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– abstain 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Thank you for this. I love cars, the new ones...not so much.

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– abstain 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I appreciate your love of foreign cars. I owned a Mini S for 9 years. They are just so expensive to fix.

I like the American cars. My sons had a Camaro and a Mustang and I would drive them from time to time. Now all the cars look the same. They're all shaped like a toddler's sneaker. I just love it when car jackers run into a stick shift. Snort.

At least the electric cars are going away. Too much angst, for people who want things to be just so. Not to mention the cost and the fires. Give me a battery leaf blower or skill saw, and I'm happy. Ramp that battery up to run a car, and you've got some usefulness, but a bus, or a truck, or anything that has to carry or tow a load ...well that's just stupid ie. government.

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– Paul_Revere 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"They're all shaped like a toddler's sneaker. "

Good analogy. I always thought of them as looking like a half-melted bar of soap.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Good to get this out here. I was surprised too.

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– ythehorses 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, it is all freaking clear now, isn't it??!!!

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, told my family members about it today. Becoming extremely clear.

15 minutes cities and when the pandemic hit, guess what, most died.

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– HelloDolly 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I always figured that it was primarily so everyone would be in a car that could be tracked. But this is probably another reason, which is closely related.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You might be correct on both.

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– FearlessMabel 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

New cars suck and they're ugly too.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Obama is just evil incarnated. He should be jail along with Bill Gates and see how they destroy each other.

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– pkripper 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I was a tech at a dealership at the time. Had to kill numerous "clunkers" and I knew it was a weak attempt to get the older, easy to fix, vehicles off the road. Those vehicles went straight to the crusher, not allowed to salvage any parts.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You should just take several. You could make a tons of money now. Some of the people that I know who are mechanical are making a killing right now. They fixed old cars and sell them.

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– Ecl1pseGST 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They destroyed a huge chunk of 80s and 90s vehicles that were new enough to have precise machining, and old enough to have old school thick engine blocks that can be rebuilt. Not a coincidence. Destroyed the used car market. Will never forgive them.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Now I cannot even afford a truck. Aaah, Obummer.

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– Notimportant81 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

My neighbor's clunker truck was maybe 3 years old. The luxury truck he replaced it with got slightly better gas milage so was allowed. I will never ever buy anything general motors. They are damn thieves.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks for the info. I will not get one.

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– Munchaussen 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This was a wealth redistribution program. Period.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I did not know back then. We looked at the EV program and I said, "Where is the charging stations if we go to the forest and go camping?"

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