Don't buy what this guy is saying. He's wrong on so many levels.
Brain death diagnosis requires several tests to be determined.
Cerebral Angiogram or nuclear scan are tests that show if blood flow is getting to the brain.If there is no blood flow to the brain, it cannot be alive. These brains are not "perfectly salvageable"
The lungs and heart can be kept going without a living brain with ventilators and IV meds.
Another study we do is the apnea test. Remove the person from the ventilator circuit and see if they can draw breaths. If they don't they are brain dead. Of course if your brain is gone there is no way to stimulate breathing.
Problem is that lay people, probably this bonehead, and many doctors confuse/interchange brain death with being persistently vegetative. They are not the same.
Thanks for sharing your actual real-world experience! Do you think perhaps there are doctors or institutions out there that do manipulate tests / results in order to harvest the organs of a person that could have been saved?
No. We won't do an apnea test until any given paralytics are gone. You can test the patient with a nerve stimulator to ensure they are not under the influence of paralytics.
That said, you are right in that either sketchiness or mistakes happen
My older brother was declared brain dead after an acute episode with hepatitis. I sat with him all night and talked to him. About 3AM, he woke up and started talking. He lived another 6 months.
I have encountered this on many occasions. Someone is an organ donor and they treat it like if there is a 5% chance that person dies soon. They lie and say have to pull all asssiting treatments, they are too far gone. And the inly reason is they need to harvest the organs while the person is alive. Its a sick and evil trade that needs to end.
Many many years ago when I was sound asleep to the corruption of the world - when I had to made the drivers license choice for organ donation - I got a creepy feeling, and my gut said "NO!". And I went with that. Now, I can clearly see how dangerous it would be to be an organ donor in the wacko, sicko, moral-free world of today. NEVER!!!!!
I was a donor as soon after my 18th birthday as I could get it done. That was 1976. I tore up my card and got it off my driver's license as soon as I could after 1992.
I was in network sales. One of our customers was the region's largest organ bank. It was attached to a hospital that had the region's best trauma center. In dealing with the organ bank, I found that a head trauma patient had a 3-times better chance of being declared brain dead if they held a donor card.
Don't get me wrong. I still want to donate my body. I've left word with my family that I want that to happen. However, I don't want someone taking the parts while I'm still alive.
This video is 6 years old, and not likely groundbreaking news to most of us here. But it’s a good resource to have for those still asleep — and those of us with family and friends who are organ donors
This video is a collection of lies. The speaker does not know what he is talking about.
Most protocols are similar to this abbreviated description: The diagnosis of "brain death" is a well defined set of conditions, starting with a known causative diagnosis that is incompatible with life and cannot be treated, with the absence of confusing situations, especially the presence of any drug or other disease that can cause a spurious diagnosis. That means no sedation, no drugs causing muscle weakness, no interference with brain, spinal cord, nerve, or muscle function. The patient must have normal body temperature and normal blood sugar and electrolytes. The patient must make no attempts at breathing (not a case of not breathing adequately but NO attempts). This always must mean that he is being ventilated mechanically. Functions of several of the nerves based in the brain stem and other reflexes must show that there is no function. The levels of carbon dioxide in the blood must be above those that would cause a stimulus for breathing. Usually after two specialist medical practitioners agree that the patient is dead then time is allowed to observe the patient followed by a repeat set of tests. Only then is patient declared to be dead. At that point transplant donations can be considered. When I was involved in the treatment of these patients I had a written protocol that I followed very strictly. If any prescribed test was not completely clear the whole event was canceled and appropriate treatment continued. Movements due to spinal reflexes were not always completely against the diagnosis of "brain death".
No. I was paid a fixed salary. The hospital had no transplant system. We were there to supply a service for our funders.
Most medical systems are there to cure patients. Anyone who tries to persuade you otherwise is trying to make a profit from you.
I work in the industry and this is bullshit. Actual misinformation. GAW has turned into a shitshow of info over the past couple years now. Focus on Q not replicating Info Wars lol
This anxiety is driven by WEF and associates. The COVID panicdemic was milked to cause as much panic as possible. Every detail, true or false, that can be used to increase distrust of all the professions is being shouted by shills and paid brain deficient bots. The media and advertising industry is following this with lies to cause perpetual panic as a state to control the populous to enable and augment depopulation.
I pulled my donor status from my driver license when the cabal refused transplants to people who did not submit to the clot shots.
One can always have a donor statement in other papers that can be carefully controlled by family members.
Same
I did too. Within the same month.
Me three
Guess I'm not alone.
Same....
Don't buy what this guy is saying. He's wrong on so many levels. Brain death diagnosis requires several tests to be determined. Cerebral Angiogram or nuclear scan are tests that show if blood flow is getting to the brain.If there is no blood flow to the brain, it cannot be alive. These brains are not "perfectly salvageable" The lungs and heart can be kept going without a living brain with ventilators and IV meds. Another study we do is the apnea test. Remove the person from the ventilator circuit and see if they can draw breaths. If they don't they are brain dead. Of course if your brain is gone there is no way to stimulate breathing. Problem is that lay people, probably this bonehead, and many doctors confuse/interchange brain death with being persistently vegetative. They are not the same.
People have lost a lot of trust.
For good reason.
You are right. Medicine has lost its way in many places. But not all of us are bad
What a hero
But while you are posting here who's doing the electric shuffle down the hallway in your stead?
Thanks for sharing your actual real-world experience! Do you think perhaps there are doctors or institutions out there that do manipulate tests / results in order to harvest the organs of a person that could have been saved?
Yes. Sadly, medicine is filled with lots of sketchy docs.
'Remove the person from the ventilator circuit and see if they can draw breaths'. They could have paralytics on board.
No. We won't do an apnea test until any given paralytics are gone. You can test the patient with a nerve stimulator to ensure they are not under the influence of paralytics. That said, you are right in that either sketchiness or mistakes happen
Because we all know how closely they follow laws.
My older brother was declared brain dead after an acute episode with hepatitis. I sat with him all night and talked to him. About 3AM, he woke up and started talking. He lived another 6 months.
I have encountered this on many occasions. Someone is an organ donor and they treat it like if there is a 5% chance that person dies soon. They lie and say have to pull all asssiting treatments, they are too far gone. And the inly reason is they need to harvest the organs while the person is alive. Its a sick and evil trade that needs to end.
And no pain meds...they feel everything.
Hey /U/Brain Dead stay safe out there. lol (I know not funny)
No, fren that is funny
I think so too. Where are you, braindead?
In The White House.
That's the other braindead.
I was always suspicious that doctors wouldn't try to save you if your license said you were an organ donor.
Because doctors stop whatever life saving measures they are using to check the patient's I.D. before deciding whether to continue or not . . . ?
That they take them while you're still alive and not necessarily with any kindness/anesthesia.. that was last straw for me.
"says a diagnosis of “brain death” is a lie."
This is true! My spousal unit has been claiming that I am brain dead for years, yet still I've managed to keep a roof over her head.
Anne Heche.
Didn't they cremate her & give the family the ashes?
Maybe, but what did they take beforehand? We KNOW she wasn’t dead on the gurney. The media said she was “brain dead”.
We only know what they tell us. If they lie, we only know the lie.
Many many years ago when I was sound asleep to the corruption of the world - when I had to made the drivers license choice for organ donation - I got a creepy feeling, and my gut said "NO!". And I went with that. Now, I can clearly see how dangerous it would be to be an organ donor in the wacko, sicko, moral-free world of today. NEVER!!!!!
I was a donor as soon after my 18th birthday as I could get it done. That was 1976. I tore up my card and got it off my driver's license as soon as I could after 1992.
I was in network sales. One of our customers was the region's largest organ bank. It was attached to a hospital that had the region's best trauma center. In dealing with the organ bank, I found that a head trauma patient had a 3-times better chance of being declared brain dead if they held a donor card.
Don't get me wrong. I still want to donate my body. I've left word with my family that I want that to happen. However, I don't want someone taking the parts while I'm still alive.
Link to full video:
https://twitter.com/kaseylynae/status/1752517559344038036
https://youtu.be/l7NgJJtJ-mI
This video is 6 years old, and not likely groundbreaking news to most of us here. But it’s a good resource to have for those still asleep — and those of us with family and friends who are organ donors
So the movie "Coma" was a documentary. Your body is worth more than your life.
Luv that movie!
This video is a collection of lies. The speaker does not know what he is talking about. Most protocols are similar to this abbreviated description: The diagnosis of "brain death" is a well defined set of conditions, starting with a known causative diagnosis that is incompatible with life and cannot be treated, with the absence of confusing situations, especially the presence of any drug or other disease that can cause a spurious diagnosis. That means no sedation, no drugs causing muscle weakness, no interference with brain, spinal cord, nerve, or muscle function. The patient must have normal body temperature and normal blood sugar and electrolytes. The patient must make no attempts at breathing (not a case of not breathing adequately but NO attempts). This always must mean that he is being ventilated mechanically. Functions of several of the nerves based in the brain stem and other reflexes must show that there is no function. The levels of carbon dioxide in the blood must be above those that would cause a stimulus for breathing. Usually after two specialist medical practitioners agree that the patient is dead then time is allowed to observe the patient followed by a repeat set of tests. Only then is patient declared to be dead. At that point transplant donations can be considered. When I was involved in the treatment of these patients I had a written protocol that I followed very strictly. If any prescribed test was not completely clear the whole event was canceled and appropriate treatment continued. Movements due to spinal reflexes were not always completely against the diagnosis of "brain death".
No. I was paid a fixed salary. The hospital had no transplant system. We were there to supply a service for our funders. Most medical systems are there to cure patients. Anyone who tries to persuade you otherwise is trying to make a profit from you.
I work in the industry and this is bullshit. Actual misinformation. GAW has turned into a shitshow of info over the past couple years now. Focus on Q not replicating Info Wars lol
This anxiety is driven by WEF and associates. The COVID panicdemic was milked to cause as much panic as possible. Every detail, true or false, that can be used to increase distrust of all the professions is being shouted by shills and paid brain deficient bots. The media and advertising industry is following this with lies to cause perpetual panic as a state to control the populous to enable and augment depopulation.
might as well get "DO NOT RESUSCITATE" tattooed on your chest
A comment straight out of WEF playbook. https://www.youtube.com/watch