Banning weather modification is a good thing, don't get me wrong.
But when this bill is passed, I hope people will finally understand that most of what they call chemtrails are actually just naturally-formed contrails.
How old are you? Contrails have been coming from jets for a very long time. They were only at very high altitudes and disappeared after about 20 seconds. But they changed dramatically in the mid to late nineties. Water vapor doesn't spread out like flour thrown on a table. It doesn't precipitate from the edges of a thin white cloud. Aerosols do that. If water vapor acted like chemtrails our breath would leave a trail of little white clouds behind us as we walk.
Big mystery: what changed in the mid-to-late 90s? The airliners were flying at significantly higher altitudes due to advanced engines and aerodynamics. Though the absolute humidity was lower (fewer kilograms/meter^3 of water vapor), the relative humidity was higher (carrying capacity of the air was near saturation), so the contrails would persist longer.
But long-lasting contrails stretching across the sky were commonplace in the 1950s where B-52s were operating at 50,000 feet altitude. I saw them as a pre-school child.
There has never been consistency with regard to contrails. The same plane at the same altitude will leave a contrail one day and not the next. Wind speed and humidity determine whether a contrail is visible from the ground and how long it persists.
The main way to tell whether something is a regular contrail, and something that MAY be, and that's still a may, is that regular contrails, formed from condensation of water or ice in the exhaust stream of the jet, usually dissipate in a few minutes. Those ever enlarging and seemingly never to disappear contrails are definitely suspicious, but if my memory is correct, I remember seeing those back in the 1970's, and other than the cloud seeding experiments back then, I don't know what would have been the reason to do it, since back then, "global cooling" was the fear.
See comment further above. Persistent contrails have been around since the 50s. It is all a matter of being formed at high-er altitudes, where the air is more saturated and it is difficult for a cloud to dissipate. Just a fact of airplanes being able to fly at higher altitudes due to better engines.
Depending on wind and humidity, a normal contrail can persist for 15-20 minutes, easy. Other days you can watch them disappear in seconds. Other days the plane doesn't leave a visible contrail.
This should be stickied for those who coughyouknowwhoI’mtalkingaboutcough keep trying to convince everyone here that geo-engineering/chem trails are just condensation…
Right. Which makes me question why even draw up this bill. If they cant stop it then why bring it up. If its crazy conspiracy nonsense why entertain it. If its for the votes from their constituants, why do they even care, they would just cheat their voting season anyway. It does not make any sense to me
After a rainy session of a few days, we had clear blue skies for 3 days here in the SF bay area followed by 2 days of chemtrails in the sky - yesterday and today. From Friday, there is a forecast of another rainy sesson. Cloud seeding, perhaps?
More that, though I’ve certainly said people should get out of the infiltrated states myself, we should instead pray for any patriots brave enough to stand against the conquest of California and encourage them to fight.
Running is not the right stance, but rather how we got here. It didn’t work for Jonah, it won’t work for us, yet He will move when He moves, and that time never seems to be when we expect. :-)
There’s always that wait and testing for the one, or the three hundred.
I’m not in California, praise Yah! My state (and all the others to one degree or another) is corrupt too though, still gotta fix it, and it’s still going to require standing against Goliaths in a very real sense. Not there yet, but we will get there.
I remember when i was younger, the skies were a vibrant blue. Now on the clearest day, the sky is a light blue tone. I wonder what the scence is behind this. We all know the elitist parasites of scociety would not harm themselves. Thats why placebos exist. So i wonder how effective these chemtrails really are. They definitely will cause weather modification for the near future, but i wonder how far of an effect it is.
I wondered about that too, especially since most of the days air doesn't smell any different when chemtrails are present. But on some days I could feel the toxicity in the air. I don't think they are strong enough to kill a person, at least not quickly. Slow poison, perhaps. Those elite parasites could potentially have antidotes for the effect of toxins.
When you were younger, the air was less contaminated with organic compounds, which will have a more general scattering spectrum (making the sky more whitish). I think higher humidity has a similar effect. It also depends on time of day. Nearing sunset or sunrise there is a spectral shift in the skyshine that will give the sky a whitish quality. There is a gradual transition from blue daylight to reddish-orange sundown/sunrise light and white lies in the middle.
The weather changes...and a weather-determined effect also changes. What a coincidence! More humid air will cause contrails to be persistent. Just because the rains stopped doesn't mean the air was not humid.
Regardless of how effective this law may be, we are no longer trying to pretend that it's not really happening. From conspiracy theory, to crime. It's a start. Getting more proud of being a Tennessean every day.
It used to be a crime to be a witch, so beware confusing crimes with truth. Chemtrails are the modern "witchcraft": no evidence, just fear and suspicion.
If the law states what the title says, it's super easy to get around it. They would simply spray the sky, but not for the purpose of geoengeneering our sky. Maybe to poison us, geoengeneer the ground through falloff, they could claim its for research purposes, or say it's mass water fluoridation.
There was another state out west that did this recently 'within the last 2 years maybe' I lost my sauce when my other pc mysteriously died no me.
Would be nice if there was some type of list someplace or some digging required
No it was basically a cloud seeding operation to increase rainfall so that they could flood the hochiman sp. trail. The tunnel system. It was considered a success as they increased rainfall an estimated 34 inches.
Operation Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye / Motorpool / Intermediary-Compatriot) was a military cloud-seeding project carried out by the U.S. Air Force during the Vietnam War in 1967–1972. The highly classified program attempted to extend the monsoon season over specific areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail, in order to disrupt North Vietnamese military supplies by softening road surfaces and causing landslides.
The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Robert S. McNamara, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities considered to be in the interests of U.S. national security.
The chemical weather modification program was conducted from Thailand over Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam and allegedly sponsored by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and the CIA without the authorization of then Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, who had categorically denied to Congress that a program for modification of the weather for use as a tactical weapon even existed.[1]
There's no such thing as a chemtrail. It's just coal ash. (They have to get rid of it somehow - same as they have to get rid of fluoride. But you wouldn't want coal ash in your water!)
The percent of sky cover that is affected by chemtrails seems to be very small, so I don't understand what they hope to achieve. Is it done just as an experiment to see what they COULD achieve if they did MASSIVE coverage?
And since a contrail is noticeable by being white---i.e., brighter than the sky behind it---how could it be harmfully affecting the sunlight? Or, live in a climate that has clouds and discover how senselessly trivial this whole subject is.
Banning weather modification is a good thing, don't get me wrong.
But when this bill is passed, I hope people will finally understand that most of what they call chemtrails are actually just naturally-formed contrails.
EDIT: A basic understanding of cloud formation would clear up the confusion. Every person who objected to my comment should read this https://www.reconnectwithnature.org/news-events/the-buzz/nature-curiosity-what-are-contrails-and-how-do-they-form/
How old are you? Contrails have been coming from jets for a very long time. They were only at very high altitudes and disappeared after about 20 seconds. But they changed dramatically in the mid to late nineties. Water vapor doesn't spread out like flour thrown on a table. It doesn't precipitate from the edges of a thin white cloud. Aerosols do that. If water vapor acted like chemtrails our breath would leave a trail of little white clouds behind us as we walk.
Imagine on a cold day in which you can see your breath and then it lingering for 6 hours.
Kind of like fog.
Big mystery: what changed in the mid-to-late 90s? The airliners were flying at significantly higher altitudes due to advanced engines and aerodynamics. Though the absolute humidity was lower (fewer kilograms/meter^3 of water vapor), the relative humidity was higher (carrying capacity of the air was near saturation), so the contrails would persist longer.
But long-lasting contrails stretching across the sky were commonplace in the 1950s where B-52s were operating at 50,000 feet altitude. I saw them as a pre-school child.
There has never been consistency with regard to contrails. The same plane at the same altitude will leave a contrail one day and not the next. Wind speed and humidity determine whether a contrail is visible from the ground and how long it persists.
REMINDER - GENERAL FLYNN POSTS VIDEO ABOUT
NANOTECH BEING IN EVERYTHING BEING SPRAYED IN THE SKY
THEN MANIPULATED BY 5G
“Anything the NANOTECH is in can be manipulated by 5G… THE NANOTECH IS IN EVERYTHING… THEY SPRAY IT IN THE SKIES…”
https://greatawakening.win/p/16an0knRg7/gen-flynn--fair-warning---anythi/c/
BEAUTIFUL BLACK SKY… NOT LONG NOW! FAIR WARNING!
The main way to tell whether something is a regular contrail, and something that MAY be, and that's still a may, is that regular contrails, formed from condensation of water or ice in the exhaust stream of the jet, usually dissipate in a few minutes. Those ever enlarging and seemingly never to disappear contrails are definitely suspicious, but if my memory is correct, I remember seeing those back in the 1970's, and other than the cloud seeding experiments back then, I don't know what would have been the reason to do it, since back then, "global cooling" was the fear.
See comment further above. Persistent contrails have been around since the 50s. It is all a matter of being formed at high-er altitudes, where the air is more saturated and it is difficult for a cloud to dissipate. Just a fact of airplanes being able to fly at higher altitudes due to better engines.
Depending on wind and humidity, a normal contrail can persist for 15-20 minutes, easy. Other days you can watch them disappear in seconds. Other days the plane doesn't leave a visible contrail.
Where I live, they can last the whole day, slowly spreading in width. More the norm than not. The last few days have been especially noteworthy.
Thank you for stickying this.
Don't think it's contrail especially since I was on the air watching another plane spraying.
Contrails are visible from the air also. I've seen them coming off the tips of a plane I was on.
Thanks.
Hey, no problem frog. It was not my intention to condescend, we all just have to keep each other grounded.
Butbutbut, that’s a conspiracy theory!!! /s
LOL
This should be stickied for those who coughyouknowwhoI’mtalkingaboutcough keep trying to convince everyone here that geo-engineering/chem trails are just condensation…
LOL
REMINDER - GENERAL FLYNN POSTS VIDEO ABOUT
NANOTECH BEING IN EVERYTHING BEING SPRAYED IN THE SKY
THEN MANIPULATED BY 5G
“Anything the NANOTECH is in can be manipulated by 5G… THE NANOTECH IS IN EVERYTHING… THEY SPRAY IT IN THE SKIES…”
https://greatawakening.win/p/16an0knRg7/gen-flynn--fair-warning---anythi/c/
BEAUTIFUL BLACK SKY… NOT LONG NOW! FAIR WARNING!
😂
You're gonna be so sad when you still see those trails in the sky.
Right, and after this regulation passes you will still see them
Right. Which makes me question why even draw up this bill. If they cant stop it then why bring it up. If its crazy conspiracy nonsense why entertain it. If its for the votes from their constituants, why do they even care, they would just cheat their voting season anyway. It does not make any sense to me
Because what you're seeing day to day aren't chemtrails.
And never will be.
After a rainy session of a few days, we had clear blue skies for 3 days here in the SF bay area followed by 2 days of chemtrails in the sky - yesterday and today. From Friday, there is a forecast of another rainy sesson. Cloud seeding, perhaps?
All day every day everywhere.
"WEATHER MODIFICATION Harvesting the Texas Skies in 2022 - A Summary of Rain Enhancement Operations in Texas" https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/weather/summary.htm
Oh, you still in CA? I would get out.
Newsom burned and then dumped water so he can get funding. What I am seeing.
Isaiah 6:8
I heard the Lord's voice, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" Then I said, "Here I am. Send me!"
Got it. You always have to do what God said.
More that, though I’ve certainly said people should get out of the infiltrated states myself, we should instead pray for any patriots brave enough to stand against the conquest of California and encourage them to fight.
Running is not the right stance, but rather how we got here. It didn’t work for Jonah, it won’t work for us, yet He will move when He moves, and that time never seems to be when we expect. :-)
There’s always that wait and testing for the one, or the three hundred.
You are a great soul. May God reward you richly for your stand.
I’m not in California, praise Yah! My state (and all the others to one degree or another) is corrupt too though, still gotta fix it, and it’s still going to require standing against Goliaths in a very real sense. Not there yet, but we will get there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY5QgpgrJP0
Kings can’t let corruption in their kingdoms stand.
Revelation 1:6
We got here due to the Federal Reserve (that's the start). If you want to pick up 5 stones, the first one will be the Federal Reserve.
The second, Rockefeller's big pharma
The third, the school systems
The fourth, reliance on technology (voting machines, don't know how to count). Refer back to number three.
You go figure out the fifth one.
I remember when i was younger, the skies were a vibrant blue. Now on the clearest day, the sky is a light blue tone. I wonder what the scence is behind this. We all know the elitist parasites of scociety would not harm themselves. Thats why placebos exist. So i wonder how effective these chemtrails really are. They definitely will cause weather modification for the near future, but i wonder how far of an effect it is.
I wondered about that too, especially since most of the days air doesn't smell any different when chemtrails are present. But on some days I could feel the toxicity in the air. I don't think they are strong enough to kill a person, at least not quickly. Slow poison, perhaps. Those elite parasites could potentially have antidotes for the effect of toxins.
When you were younger, the air was less contaminated with organic compounds, which will have a more general scattering spectrum (making the sky more whitish). I think higher humidity has a similar effect. It also depends on time of day. Nearing sunset or sunrise there is a spectral shift in the skyshine that will give the sky a whitish quality. There is a gradual transition from blue daylight to reddish-orange sundown/sunrise light and white lies in the middle.
Yes. SoCal as welll
The weather changes...and a weather-determined effect also changes. What a coincidence! More humid air will cause contrails to be persistent. Just because the rains stopped doesn't mean the air was not humid.
Wow! And I hope that catches on.
Conspiracy no more!
Me too my fren.
6 voted against the bill, wtf?
They like heavy metals.
Bunch of Barium and Aluminum (Ba Al) worshipers.
Oh. I got it. LOL
They didn’t want to acknowledge a “fringe” conspiracy theory otherwise random people on the internet might whisper mean things about them.
Ooooooo..... you said the 'C' word! 😄
Oh darn me.
And appear to have gotten away with it! 😂👍
Regardless of how effective this law may be, we are no longer trying to pretend that it's not really happening. From conspiracy theory, to crime. It's a start. Getting more proud of being a Tennessean every day.
See stickied comment at the top. They are still pretending.
It used to be a crime to be a witch, so beware confusing crimes with truth. Chemtrails are the modern "witchcraft": no evidence, just fear and suspicion.
I would if I were there.
I live in TN and since I moved here there hasn't been a single sunny day that was free of chemtrails.
Make sure it passes the house.
Actually, every single one of them was free of "chemtrails." You are just not free of them.
Why aren’t more states doing this? I hope it’s just the start.
Just the start I believe.
Now do fluoride in the water.
You heard about the lawsuits. Very quiet but huge lawsuit.
No I didn't hear about the lawsuits. Do you recall which states?
https://greatawakening.win/search?params=fluoride+lawsuit&community=GreatAwakening
Thanks brain dead 👍👍👍
Exciting news!
WC
Winning!
Small, but yes. Amen.
Now for some SAM batteries to enforce the law
Yes.
This is great. It still needs to pass the House, but hopefully that will happen.
I saw that. Hopefully.
I’m hearing it … no comment.
Amen
If the law states what the title says, it's super easy to get around it. They would simply spray the sky, but not for the purpose of geoengeneering our sky. Maybe to poison us, geoengeneer the ground through falloff, they could claim its for research purposes, or say it's mass water fluoridation.
Like chaff. It's for military research but they don't care if you breathe it in.
https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2024/February/PDF/military-disperses-fiberglass-in-air-pdf.pdf
Thank you so much for bringing that.
They will all answer to God. They are all such demons.
Does this mean there is a registry somewhere that indicates weither a flight is chemical or not? FIND IT!
Yes. I will hope one day someone can find it. I will look
There was another state out west that did this recently 'within the last 2 years maybe' I lost my sauce when my other pc mysteriously died no me.
Would be nice if there was some type of list someplace or some digging required
Texas, followed by New Hampshire.
https://dainikbidyaloy.com/2024/01/04/new-hampshire-becomes-second-u-s-state-to-ban-chemtrails/
You can still recover the data if it wasn't a hard drive failure
How about operation Popeye during Vietnam?
Never heard of that one. Are you talking about Agent Orange?
No it was basically a cloud seeding operation to increase rainfall so that they could flood the hochiman sp. trail. The tunnel system. It was considered a success as they increased rainfall an estimated 34 inches.
Thank you for the info. I do know about cloud seeding.
Operation Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye / Motorpool / Intermediary-Compatriot) was a military cloud-seeding project carried out by the U.S. Air Force during the Vietnam War in 1967–1972. The highly classified program attempted to extend the monsoon season over specific areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail, in order to disrupt North Vietnamese military supplies by softening road surfaces and causing landslides.
The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Robert S. McNamara, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities considered to be in the interests of U.S. national security.
The chemical weather modification program was conducted from Thailand over Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam and allegedly sponsored by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and the CIA without the authorization of then Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, who had categorically denied to Congress that a program for modification of the weather for use as a tactical weapon even existed.[1]
Darn, now I know. What a damn thing. One of the bad actor again (Kissinger). He is a kiss of death if there is one.
There's no such thing as a chemtrail. It's just coal ash. (They have to get rid of it somehow - same as they have to get rid of fluoride. But you wouldn't want coal ash in your water!)
Even so, I don't want that! I hope for discovery soon.
The percent of sky cover that is affected by chemtrails seems to be very small, so I don't understand what they hope to achieve. Is it done just as an experiment to see what they COULD achieve if they did MASSIVE coverage?
New Mexico used to be known for its sunny, blue skies. Now it looks like Portland.
Even small amount is not good. What the heck are they spraying us?
Water vapor, a necessary result of hydrocarbon combustion.
And since a contrail is noticeable by being white---i.e., brighter than the sky behind it---how could it be harmfully affecting the sunlight? Or, live in a climate that has clouds and discover how senselessly trivial this whole subject is.