Today's Eclipse. Help me understand what I witnessed.
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You do not see the moon because it is in New Moon phase. The sun is behind it. When you see the moon, either during the day or night, it is because it is reflecting light from the sun, at different angles, which gives us the phases of the moon.
It's tiring how many times we have to explain grade school astronomy concepts to otherwise smart people who decide to overthink this into oblivion.
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Yes, but once the moon gets further away from the sun in the sky, at least part of it should be illuminated and visible!
This is not correct. Most of the moon is dark except for a small sliver... but even then you don't see the moon often at all during the day when it is just in the general vicinity of the sun... because the sky itself is too light to see any other light outside getting in... same reason you don't see stars during the day but they're there just the same.
To add to this... it was pretty cool seeing a few stars during the eclipse.
not stars, planets. Both Venus and Jupiter were visible during the event. Didn't notice any stars, and really was hoping to see a glimpse of the comet.
I had wondered but then got busy and didn't look that up... very cool, thanks!
The moon isn't getting farther away from the sun. The earth is turning away from the lined up sun and moon. That's why there is a path of totality. The sun and moon stay lined up in relation to the earth for much longer than any one place experiences totality.
The moon gets a tiny bit further from the earth every year. In a few hundred years or so, we won't experience total eclipses anymore.
Per NASA this is only 3.78cm per year and has a very slightly elliptical orbit. It can be calculated out exactly when there will be no more total eclipses seen on earth... this is going to be in 563 million years. Its rate of moving away is also slowing down... in like15 billion years it will no longer be moving away. But we will be swallowed up by our sun expanding in about 6-7 billion years... so we're married tot he moon and to total eclipses for quite a while longer than a few hundred years. Fun stuff though. (I did not downvote you)
The amount of illumination will be too low tomovercome the high contrast of a blue sky.
I mean, some of the stars are pretty bright and you can't see them during the day.
No, because its a lot nearer us than the sun is.
The new moon phase last 3 days. It is when the moon moves further along its orbit around the earth that it will start to be visible again.
When the moon is passing in front of the sun the dark side is facing us. And it is daytime. That is why you don't see it.
Add to that even though it is dark on a solid blue sky the mind is going to fill any empty space with that blue. When the moon and sun oppose the side facing earth is luminated.
As to the moon and sun not moving. Leaning against a post is not exactly a set foundation. He should have put his camera on a tripod, and then he would have had to track the progress across the sky.
There really isn't a black space to be filled. Space is black. The dark side of the moon is black. Its black on black. We just cant see all that black through the atmosphere during the day.
So space votes for Biden. Got it.
Hey, now. Space dindu nuffin'.
Similar as to why the moon looks bigger to us when it is near the horizon when you have objects to compare it to vs high up in the sky when we only have the stars to size it against.
The dark side of the moon NEVER faces the earth. It's in a state that they call "Tidal Lock". You and I can never see the dark side of the moon unless it's a picture taken from beyond or in orbit of the moon. Sometimes you can see the moon during the daylight if the conditions are right, but usually the sunlight washes it out from view.
The dark side of the moon and the side facing away from us are not necessarily the same location. When the moon is a crescent, part of the side facing away from us is being lit.
If the side of the moon that is dark was always facing away from us we would never see anything but a full moon. The moon is tidally locked with the earth, so one side is always facing away from us, but the same side of the moon is not always darkened.
I would be more concerned if we see it tonight.
The answers can be easily understood with a 3D model. Try this one:
https://youtu.be/TQ-UHxPHh9A?si=S-Fy5r6dj0Uhb0xH
Thanks.
The sun staying in place, then moving quickly after the eclipse is an optical illusion. This can happen when two spherical objects cross paths in the sky while going in opposite directions as observed from a point on another spherical object.
I agree it's an optical illusion, however your explanation doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I think people are hyper focused during the intersection, and less hyper focused before and after. The perception of time passing is what causes the perceived difference.
Also a good point.
We were doing the same thing, watched all day and a few hours after the eclipse, and notice the same things you did here in Canada. No moon , no crescent of the new moon. and no movement of the sun during.We were discussing this before seeing your post.
Yay! Thanks for confirming what I saw. I thought I was going crazy.
The assumption is that the black thing is the moon or its shadow. Look everywhere else in the sky and see if you can find “another moon”. It is usually opposite the sun in the sky. Do this for every eclipse. Once you find the moon in the sky not near the “eclipse location”, the real fun begins trying to decipher what is really going on.
No one ever thinks to look for the moon elsewhere in the sky during an eclipse because you believe you are looking at it while viewing the eclipse. This may not be the case for every eclipse.
I have had this thought myself!
Yes, I don’t fully understand it yet, but I believe it is related to the true nature and locations of the sun and moon (and Earth’s magnetic field origin), which appear to be remarkably similar in size visually.
Russians have some very interesting optical split off of an electromagetic “beam” off the spherical top of atmosphere forming two “plasma shperes” in 3D space theories for what sun and moon actually are. [Appears to be a round disk of land (UN logo), snowglobe dome, larger Earth shape assumption.]
You are seeing the dark side of the moon, which would be black.
The dark side of the moon never faces earth. We only see the one side. That is one of those unexplained anomalies. The moon never rotates and stays facing the earth without change.
Technically that's the far-side of the moon. People refer to it as the dark side because we can't see from Earth, but it's lit up just as much as the side that faces us, we just can't see it.
It's not unexplained, the moon is so close that it's tidally locked with the Earth so it rotates about the same speed that it orbits the Earth therefore we see the same side (near side) all of the time and the far side faces away.
You are correct, I was waiting for someone to point that out....
It does rotate, once every 24 hours.
sidereal day ---- 23 h 56 min 4.0905 s
Google Sky Map didn't seem to correlate at all. The obvious problem is it not locating my position correctly. I wasn't very concerned about the whole thing because I'm not in a prime location. I was in the prime position on the last one a few years ago. I was in a canoe on a remote mountain lake in NC. 2 or 3 other boats at the most. It got dark and cycada's starred chirping and owls hooting. Very cool
every one of the questions he asked, we know.
My dog Astro really enjoyed the show.