I personally think AI is inherently evil. Even in the smaller sense that to have an AI you have to collect mass amounts of data, on both people (spying, tracking etc) and other data. In generating anything it steals other people work. In fact the data it collected is so extensive that it could probably produce an exact clone of you based on your habits, behaviors, interactions etc. So really all that power goes into the hand of one (AI) and it's handler. A power over people neither should be able to wield.
produce an exact clone of you based on your habits, behaviors, interactions etc.
No. This is a common fear, but it is fundamentally impossible due to the inherent limitations of computers, Turing machines, and ALL formalized systems of logical symbolic processing. We humans aren't such things. You as a flesh-and-blood human won't hang in an endless loop or crash when you encounter an unexpected irrational value, unpredicted divide-by-zero, or any other unfalsifiable statement of logic. But any so-called "AI" based on you can and will eventually crash, loop, or otherwise reveal the machine inside when faced with the right questions.
Automated data poisoning is something thats done right now by fake news and propaganda outlets all the time, but I think its something that will be embraced by the masses at some point to thwart the scenario you outline. Because nobody wants their life available online as an open book that any criminal, malicious state actor, or anyone else in general can pick up and read. And then impersonate and exploit and hoax connected parties like family members, like their banks and employers.
So there are going to be decoys, chaff, static, fake personas, rabbit holes leading bots off on wild and crazy chases that lead nowhere and consume endless bot resources, and so on. No electronic data will be an accurate representation. Think the virus and antivirus ecosystem with the constant arms-race to try and catch out each other, but in a data format.
Conceivably the zoom job-interview you just had with a potential new staff member that you will sign up for a work-from-home position might be an AI among thousands that some guy has coded up and is running on a cloud host, all collecting paychecks from jobs they are either pretending to do or sort of doing, and funneling the cash to him until they get 'fired' from some company that figures out its a hoax. Which lasts until another victim HR department is located.
Or that 20 year old german student who has signed up to a dating website with a video profile how she is interested in meeting guys in her city might be a 50 year old korean man who is trying to catfish people for $ and then extort them by threatening them with exposure as a cheater to their families.
Real life is going to be the safe and trusted medium if the info-space gets so contaminated its no longer viable. And what value is AI if its data-set building blocks are all hoaxes, fabrications, or arguments among 6 year olds?
Agree, I've used both & they have a similar way of operation for sure. can tell it's low level entities. why it's important for us to have the armor of God😇
It's only an idol if you worship it, otherwise it's just a toolset you can use to explore some things you find fun. I've been enjoying some hybrid music styles like Egyptian surf guitar or Punjabi power metal and I don't see any danger to my soil there.
AI is just a tool, it can be used for Good or Evil. Like a screwdriver. Don’t get carried away by its complexity. It’s not self-conscious so it cannot be a demon.
It's Google with extra steps. Do you trust everything you get back from a search engine?
If you believe a PC can be possessed, then what is the difference with LLMs? No difference at all. You should have been cautious since the 1980's.
How about a television?
Can a book be possessed? Can the words I read from a book be changed before they get to my eyes? Where do you draw the line?
Be worried about other people trusting what an "AI" puts out because the language is nice. At the end of the day, it is still what some jackass (or group of jackasses) decided to code and filter data for. It produces what it was designed to produce, nothing more.
So you say computers can think? If so, you're wrong. They are just following a program a human wrote. Yes, they can operate and blazing speeds and in most cases not make errors, but that's not thinking. Not even close.
Well a computer will not be able to answer or solve anything that it hasn't been programmed to solve. You, on the other-hand, have a chance to. AI is just a new term they came up with because neural nets didn't really take off so they needed a new name. Just faster chips, nothing else.
It's just as stupid. When I would read about people worshipping stones & statues in the ancient world, I thought, what idiots. This is the same. People worshipping 1's and 0's. It will NEVER be alive.
It's gone beyond the understanding of humans several documented times already, God only knows how many undocumented times. In the documented (published) instances, the machines communicated things or in ways that seemed absolutely mad. It seriously seems beyond "there" already, and given that we know there are satanic rich people galore out there, how can anyone believe it hasn't been pushed into ritual, sorcery, et al many times already?
Christian here...I totally agree with this guy's take on AI as far as it being demonic in nature (basically I believe AI is just another tool of the occult to allow demons to communicate with WILLFUL participants), however that's where our my agreement stops.
As a follower of Jesus (Christian) I am always offended when someone involved in a non-Christian cult claims the moniker of Christian for their belief system in an attempt to give it equal credence with Christianity. All the popular cults like Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, and in this case Catholics do this! Catholicism is as much Christian as a McDonald's hamburger is a Taco Bell Taco! In fact I would be hard pressed to find a more idolatrous belief system than Catholicism.
Catholics pray to and worship mere men and women who they term "Saints" over and above Jesus and God the Father. They pray to these saints, they worship these saints and they make molten images of these saints. This is condemned in the Bible all over the place!
Then there is the belief in Papal Infallibility. Again, this is giving a mere man the same status as Jesus (God)! Complete idolatry.
Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. Well, anyone who has done even a cursory study of the history of the Roman Catholic Church KNOWS how corrupt and wicked this belief system is. Need I mention the Inquisitions or what this church did to the Waldenses? Remember the selling of Indulgences? Seriously?
Literal books have been written about the evil history of the Catholic Church. Even it's own church Fathers have said it was satanic! Read Windswept House by Father Malachi Martin...he goes into great detail about the outright satanism practiced within the walls of Catholic Churches and the Vatican! Why do you think most of the Priests within the Church are male child rapists? Fr. Malachi Martin explains this in detail! This is from the mouth of someone who loved the Catholic Church, but his conscience forced him to tell the world the truth and he was killed for it!
For the longest time this Church forbid people from having a copy of the Bible under penalty of the most severe torture and death! Why is that? Does anyone think that was Jesus will? Of course not...it was an instrument of satanic control over the people to keep them from knowledge of Salvation by the Grace of Jesus! It's what satanic institutions do...they use any means necessary to keep truth from the people because "The Truth Shall Set You Free!"
His take on the King James Bible is also completely off base as well. The other books he mentions were not added to the canon of Scripture primarily because either there were doctrinal inconsistencies that proved they were tainted, historical inaccuracies or outright doctrinal heresy! Anyone who takes a hard look at exactly how, why and from what manuscripts we get our KJ Bible will clearly understand that not only is it God's perfect Words in English to be used to evangelize the world, but that God's hand was massively involved in it's creation! Just do a study on the backgrounds of the translators that were chosen...this is an amazing testament in an of it's own! So for this man to disparage the King James Bible is just anathema to the truth!
AI is just a giant ouija board. An idol made of silicone and plastic.
I personally think AI is inherently evil. Even in the smaller sense that to have an AI you have to collect mass amounts of data, on both people (spying, tracking etc) and other data. In generating anything it steals other people work. In fact the data it collected is so extensive that it could probably produce an exact clone of you based on your habits, behaviors, interactions etc. So really all that power goes into the hand of one (AI) and it's handler. A power over people neither should be able to wield.
No. This is a common fear, but it is fundamentally impossible due to the inherent limitations of computers, Turing machines, and ALL formalized systems of logical symbolic processing. We humans aren't such things. You as a flesh-and-blood human won't hang in an endless loop or crash when you encounter an unexpected irrational value, unpredicted divide-by-zero, or any other unfalsifiable statement of logic. But any so-called "AI" based on you can and will eventually crash, loop, or otherwise reveal the machine inside when faced with the right questions.
Kek, the programmed uni grads aren't NPCs, they're AI!!
Automated data poisoning is something thats done right now by fake news and propaganda outlets all the time, but I think its something that will be embraced by the masses at some point to thwart the scenario you outline. Because nobody wants their life available online as an open book that any criminal, malicious state actor, or anyone else in general can pick up and read. And then impersonate and exploit and hoax connected parties like family members, like their banks and employers.
So there are going to be decoys, chaff, static, fake personas, rabbit holes leading bots off on wild and crazy chases that lead nowhere and consume endless bot resources, and so on. No electronic data will be an accurate representation. Think the virus and antivirus ecosystem with the constant arms-race to try and catch out each other, but in a data format.
Conceivably the zoom job-interview you just had with a potential new staff member that you will sign up for a work-from-home position might be an AI among thousands that some guy has coded up and is running on a cloud host, all collecting paychecks from jobs they are either pretending to do or sort of doing, and funneling the cash to him until they get 'fired' from some company that figures out its a hoax. Which lasts until another victim HR department is located.
Or that 20 year old german student who has signed up to a dating website with a video profile how she is interested in meeting guys in her city might be a 50 year old korean man who is trying to catfish people for $ and then extort them by threatening them with exposure as a cheater to their families.
Real life is going to be the safe and trusted medium if the info-space gets so contaminated its no longer viable. And what value is AI if its data-set building blocks are all hoaxes, fabrications, or arguments among 6 year olds?
Agree, I've used both & they have a similar way of operation for sure. can tell it's low level entities. why it's important for us to have the armor of God😇
"AI" is actually inferior. Ouija boards don't crash.
It's only an idol if you worship it, otherwise it's just a toolset you can use to explore some things you find fun. I've been enjoying some hybrid music styles like Egyptian surf guitar or Punjabi power metal and I don't see any danger to my soil there.
AI is just a tool, it can be used for Good or Evil. Like a screwdriver. Don’t get carried away by its complexity. It’s not self-conscious so it cannot be a demon.
But could it be possessed by such?
It's Google with extra steps. Do you trust everything you get back from a search engine?
If you believe a PC can be possessed, then what is the difference with LLMs? No difference at all. You should have been cautious since the 1980's.
How about a television?
Can a book be possessed? Can the words I read from a book be changed before they get to my eyes? Where do you draw the line?
Be worried about other people trusting what an "AI" puts out because the language is nice. At the end of the day, it is still what some jackass (or group of jackasses) decided to code and filter data for. It produces what it was designed to produce, nothing more.
People give AI way too much credit.
Its never gonna be what people think its going to be.
There is no such thing as AI. Computers can't think and never will be able to.
It's not the computers that some of us are concerned about; it's what is being invited to possess them.
So you say computers can think? If so, you're wrong. They are just following a program a human wrote. Yes, they can operate and blazing speeds and in most cases not make errors, but that's not thinking. Not even close.
Well a computer will not be able to answer or solve anything that it hasn't been programmed to solve. You, on the other-hand, have a chance to. AI is just a new term they came up with because neural nets didn't really take off so they needed a new name. Just faster chips, nothing else.
It's just as stupid. When I would read about people worshipping stones & statues in the ancient world, I thought, what idiots. This is the same. People worshipping 1's and 0's. It will NEVER be alive.
An electronic ouiji board.>
I’m not saying AI can’t be possessed or that there are no aspects that align it well with the binary of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
But it’s not there yet.
If its "not there yet", what is your measure of "ok. We're definitely there"?
I feel like its 100%, all the way there. Perfectly capable of complete deception.
It’s not to the point where we can call it a demonic entity. Right now, it’s just software.
It's gone beyond the understanding of humans several documented times already, God only knows how many undocumented times. In the documented (published) instances, the machines communicated things or in ways that seemed absolutely mad. It seriously seems beyond "there" already, and given that we know there are satanic rich people galore out there, how can anyone believe it hasn't been pushed into ritual, sorcery, et al many times already?
"We are living in a time where satan doesn't even hide anymore, and the world still can't see him"
Christian here...I totally agree with this guy's take on AI as far as it being demonic in nature (basically I believe AI is just another tool of the occult to allow demons to communicate with WILLFUL participants), however that's where our my agreement stops.
As a follower of Jesus (Christian) I am always offended when someone involved in a non-Christian cult claims the moniker of Christian for their belief system in an attempt to give it equal credence with Christianity. All the popular cults like Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, and in this case Catholics do this! Catholicism is as much Christian as a McDonald's hamburger is a Taco Bell Taco! In fact I would be hard pressed to find a more idolatrous belief system than Catholicism.
Catholics pray to and worship mere men and women who they term "Saints" over and above Jesus and God the Father. They pray to these saints, they worship these saints and they make molten images of these saints. This is condemned in the Bible all over the place!
Then there is the belief in Papal Infallibility. Again, this is giving a mere man the same status as Jesus (God)! Complete idolatry.
Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. Well, anyone who has done even a cursory study of the history of the Roman Catholic Church KNOWS how corrupt and wicked this belief system is. Need I mention the Inquisitions or what this church did to the Waldenses? Remember the selling of Indulgences? Seriously?
Literal books have been written about the evil history of the Catholic Church. Even it's own church Fathers have said it was satanic! Read Windswept House by Father Malachi Martin...he goes into great detail about the outright satanism practiced within the walls of Catholic Churches and the Vatican! Why do you think most of the Priests within the Church are male child rapists? Fr. Malachi Martin explains this in detail! This is from the mouth of someone who loved the Catholic Church, but his conscience forced him to tell the world the truth and he was killed for it!
For the longest time this Church forbid people from having a copy of the Bible under penalty of the most severe torture and death! Why is that? Does anyone think that was Jesus will? Of course not...it was an instrument of satanic control over the people to keep them from knowledge of Salvation by the Grace of Jesus! It's what satanic institutions do...they use any means necessary to keep truth from the people because "The Truth Shall Set You Free!"
His take on the King James Bible is also completely off base as well. The other books he mentions were not added to the canon of Scripture primarily because either there were doctrinal inconsistencies that proved they were tainted, historical inaccuracies or outright doctrinal heresy! Anyone who takes a hard look at exactly how, why and from what manuscripts we get our KJ Bible will clearly understand that not only is it God's perfect Words in English to be used to evangelize the world, but that God's hand was massively involved in it's creation! Just do a study on the backgrounds of the translators that were chosen...this is an amazing testament in an of it's own! So for this man to disparage the King James Bible is just anathema to the truth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCD6QF1jCyg&pp=ygUgc2NvdHQgaGFobiB3aHkgaSBiZWNhbWUgY2F0aG9saWM%3D