How does everyone see the Great awakening movement tying into revelation. Personally I see 4 options
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we are in Satan's short season, so most has already played out in the past (see jtfollowsjc on x)
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trump is the anti Christ and we are all being herded (see Donniedarklend on x)
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we are being given a reprieve chance from God. A chance to turn from evil and being his spirit back into the world. So we aren't in revelation yet
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revelation is taking place in a way we just can't understand yet and most theological ideas are not correct
I lean towards 4 but 1 and 3 are next options for me with option 2 simply beinf in the back of my mind
Then his power must be falling bc so many have turned to christ!
Interesting... I can see how Satan has been given Lot of leeway and truth is slowly causing him to lose that. Would you expand on what Fatima's timeline is
I agree, whether this is the end, or simply the end of a cycle, things have built to such a gigantic and unnatural tension in the forces of evil - something has to break.
What is it that hath been? that that shall be: and what is it that hath been done? that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.(or is it Son?) ---Ecclesiastes 1:9 --- 1599 Geneva
My assessment...
Q team already neutralized the anti Christ program in the near future (for the sake of this comment, let's refer to it as Q day 1)
However, BEAST system remains active in this universe and is being further developed alongside hadron colliders and protein based quantum computing
This is being done because DS is attempting to accelerate endtimes before we reach Q day 1 in this current universe
DS believes if they can accelerate endtimes they can defeat God using the beast system and colliders to generate multiple "black hole" type phenomena and thus erase the Q day 1 universe as well as prevent the WHs from stopping them. Then from there they would probably use the same temporal displacement mechanism to cross the wall of fire into old eden and harvest resources and knowledge to wage their unholy war on God.
This is why you see Trump so often say final battle, last chance, etc. Trump is fully in on the plan which is headed by the loyal cardinals and former world leaders both political and religious. "It will be biblical" This is why Trump became a Christian and when I think of it more, I bet the Bush funeral letters were from the WHs or maybe cardinal Vigano
Do you really think something as big as hero park would be the commemorrate a few dead presidents and fallen soldiers?? No. I believe that will be a place to celebrate the WHS who have worked in secrecy for centuries
The stated goal is to make transition as painless as possible. To enter the new Kingdom at peace, to show God we tried as hard as possible to be like Him and rectify our ways. If we succeed, I do believe we will be rewarded with an endtimes largely free of suffering and pretty much skipping to the good part (you'll love the way the movie ends)
If WHs and Q team fail, God still wins, but it will be the chaotic and horrible war that fire and brimstone preachers love to yell about. We will be fine, but the normies will have a very big choice to make..one last chance before martyrdom is the only way out.
Wow there is a lot of new ideas here I haven't heard. Will definitely have to read this over a couple times. Thanks for sharing
I would say that sounds crazy, but it simply doesn't sound that crazy anymore!
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love this
https://news.artnet.com/art-world-archives/trump-garden-american-heroes-garden-list-1938026
For me, itโs 4 all the way but I like how you think.๐๐ป
Yeah 4 has been the one that my heart has always gone to. However I try to keep an open mind as I seek truth. The other 3 are definitely thought provoking
#2 is too specific so not actual IMHO.
What do you mean by to specific. Can you expand
Naming someone, even Trump seems to be timely and Godly matters are intemporal.๐๐ป
I don't see Donald Trump as the antichrist at all. He basically has been seen as a prayerful President from the start. For example, there is the image of him being prayed on in the Oval Office, and he even acknowledged Jesus Christ as the higher power during a North Carolina rally. The true anti christ will declare himself to be God.
I agree, although I fail to understand how God hasn't asked Trump to steer a wide berth around Paula White Ministries - she's a snake.
I think President Trump uses her to his advantage. I wonder why the Justice department hasn't investigated her yet.
Great thread Slechta. Interesting that 4 seems to the consensus here.
Thanks brother. Yeah I agree it's interesting. Personally my heart has always felt 4 was true. Which led me to look into 1 and 2. And both of those have some good thoughts however I still feel it's something different. The Satan's short season one is very interesting imo
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, and against the worldly governors, the princes of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness, which are in the high places." --Ephesians 6:12 -- 1599 Geneva Bible
Gotcha ๐๐ guess I'm just slow today haha
While that is a great verse I'm a little confused how you are tying it into the post. Would u expand. Sorry if I'm a little slow today
Yeah I have been all over the place as well. I don't think we can know for sure and I agree it's and awesome study. Have you checked out the short season theory. It's very interesting and they make a lot of good points as well. (Not that I am saying it's true, just that it's worth looking into and praying over)
Wow I absolutely love you add on to that comment. I agree with you.
Yeah I encourage you to check out jtfollowjc on x or YouTube. He has some great videos that will push you as far as thinking. It's all about how deep the lies truly are and how our reality is far from truth currently. I still don't know if I believe it but it does add some extra layers of thinking
https://www.youtube.com/@jtfollowsjc
You rock sis. Thanks
Oh and thanks for the kind words my fren. Much love
I keep wondering if we're in the end times because the 1000 years of peace already happened (Tartaria) but it's been hidden from us.
There's also the possibility that Revelation is not at all what we think it is--it could be that John was talking about the end of the Roman empire (this is the analysis of the publishers of The Geneva Bible in 1560). (But, then again, maybe we're now living through the real end of the Roman empire?)
It also could be that the powers that have been have been using Revelation as a fear tool. After all, distortion and deception is their specialty.
I would encourage, if you havent already, to look up jtfollowsjc for that first part. He has some good work going
And yes the other thoughts are valid I suppose
It is possible that the Roman Catholic Church is linked to the Roman empire.
One and the same (;
"Mystery Babylon"
What's the single most wealthy and longest-lasting human institution on planet earth? Who has representation in every single nation (think "missions", churches, schools, charities, NGOs etc)
Who features a man in place of Christ (think "vicar")?
H. Grattan Guinness knew. The original Protestants knew. Christendom knew until it was corrupted by Jesuit-infested "Seminaries" and "New Bible" translation teams using faked manuscripts such as Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, Wescott and Hort fraudsters etc.
https://files.catbox.moe/yaicm2.pdf
^pages 49 - 64 relevent
Yes, yes, downvote and leave! The consistant refrain of the brainwashed! Never refute a point I made, only attempt a consensus-cracking.
You have more than you know!
https://files.catbox.moe/yaicm2.pdf
^pages 49 - 64 relevent
It was common knowledge up until around 1900s sometime... I wonder why we all don't know these things today....
I've thought about #2 a lot, especially since it has been said that "even the elect" will be led astray by the A.C., which would most likely require him to be someone that everyone likes.
Except........we also know that the Son of Perdition is the Father of Lies. There is no Truth in him.
Donald Trump speaks Truth. The A.C. wouldn't be able to tell even a simple truth. If his favorite fast-food is McDonald's, he'd have to tell you it's Burger King.
I don't think the Trump is the A.C. (JMO)
Yeah Imo he isnt either
Not to mention, the observable demons seem to legitimately hate Trump and writhe at the sight of him. Unless they're just good actors......
If the demons really do hate Trump, and Trump is the A.C., then that Kingdom is Divided and cannot Stand.
Yes he does bring the demons out. Donniedarklend says that that is simply the going to war against the beast part of revelation. Which then allows the anti Christ to take power. Personally I don't think that's how things are playing out but I wanted to atleast start an open discussion on these things
2 and 4 is what I feel is in play here. Revelation has many layers and is truly difficult for us carnally minded son of men to fully grasp. Once I came to believe and understand what the mark of the beast/ abomination that causes desolation is. Then it became clear to me who the frontrunners are for the AC/ son of perdition.
Who are your current frontrunners my fren
1 Trump 2 Pope 3 Obama
In that order, as much as it pains me to say it. There's only one that is the focal point of our lives for the past 7-8 years. He is the one many Christians believe and follow. The one so many put their hope and trust into. The only one who is on record claiming to be the father of the abomination. There's so much more honestly.
As we're told in scripture, we will know them by their fruits.
This is a valid line of thinking. Personally I have thought a lot about this. Prayed on it and everytime I come back to it not being true.
What fruits are you looking out for
Humility and repentance, after all pride is the worse of all according to God's word. Someone who believes they are a sinner in need of a Savior and at the very least asks Father God for forgiveness of his sins. Both of which are on public record as not being in his character.
I personally believe Trump is simply at the beginning of his walk. (Kim Clement prophecy says he won't start a Christian but will become one. New Christians say some dumb things as God slowly works out the kinks. I personally don't believe he is the anti Christ but I can respect your thoughts on the matter. Thanks for sharing. Have a blessed day
I've toyed with the idea of trump being the anti christ. What makes me lean against it is his stance on abortion.
Amos 5:26; but (instead of bringing Me the appointed sacrifices) you carried about the tent of your king Moloch (Saturn?) your images of your star-god Remphan, which you made for yourselves ( and you will do so again)...
Some je ws through the Zohar believe that their mission on earth is to hasten the messiah's return by promoting as much debauchery, filth and debasement as possible. If the world descends into complete shit, the messiah will have to return to make everything right...
It certainly explains a lot of things if that is indeed the goal...porn, holywood horseshit, promotion of all vices in order to make a buck etc.
I'm confused what your thoughts are on how these to things in title time into each other
Let me suggest option 4a Instead of โrevelation is taking place in a way we just can't understand yet and most theological ideas are not correctโ becomes โwe are in the birthing pains prelude to the tribulation, parts of end times is sealed (Daniel 12:4, Revelation 10:4) and will be revealed as the faithful walk through it with the Spirit, and some theological ideas are incorrect (because man tries to interpret what is written in the Bible with a Western mentality and a belief that it is ALL contained within)โ
We are ALL called to know the season. Yet the fallen will not understand as they lack a love of the Truth. While those that are His will understand as the times are revealed by the Spirit (possibly including His arrival).
Personally I believe that the tribulation is imminent (whatever that means). Witness the technologies that are on the horizon that our adversary will requireโฆ AI and transhumanism. Then there is genetic manipulation! Do you think God is going to sit on the sidelines while His creation (humanity) is mutated (example the Nephilim and the Days of Noah)? Do you think God is going to explicitly reveal the final moves in this cosmic war between good and evil to our adversary and the fallen? Hence sealed and revealed.
Anybody who thinks they have it all figured out is lost. We are called to be ready to meet our Maker daily. But now knowing the season we are additionally called to prepare Spiritually, Emotionally, Physically and with Resources (as each is individually led) in preparation for tribulations from our adversary that will befall on those that are His. The only certainty is that Jesus will return, there will be Tribulation, and that in the end God wins!!
Hey that's cheating. You aren't allowed to do that haha jk ๐๐
I do agree it's something we can't know for sure.
I think we are in Satan's season Rev 20 and we are transitioning to the New Earth.
Yeah my heart has been drawn to explore this theory lately. Would you be willing to to share why you think that is. Also check out the person I mentioned in OP. They have some good content on the topic
For background, I grew up in the church, attended most of my adult life, and have read and studied the Bible many times. I tried to fit Trump/ Great Awakening/ Nesara, medbeds, etc into Rev end times scenario. It was contradictory to me, and scared me to conclude Trump must be A-C and deceiving the elect, yet my soul was screaming that he was the good guy. Then, I found The Lost History of Earth video describing Tartaria, mudflood, etc and realized how much of our history is lies, and the evidence was right in front of our faces. I was a mess, and asked God to teach me like a child and start over as if I didn't know anything I had been taught or learned. I cried myself to sleep, and when I woke up, I heard "look to Rev 20 for your answer." It made complete sense to me...we are in Satan's season. I never heard this viewpoint ever, but all the pieces of the puzzle fit, and watching everything play out, I haven't found anything to contradict in my mind. If someone were to show me otherwise, I think I'd lose all hope. I feel positive with God's leading that Trump and his team are kicking ass to create our New Earth. (And, how much more evil can it possibly get...abortion, trafficking, rape and torture of children, vaccines, drinking blood, sacrifices, etc, etc, etc?)
I think Iโve told you before, but I had a very similar experience. I was tired of all the โtheoriesโ and debates of revelation. So I asked the same thing to God, what is the actual truth in all this. Then when I was reading the seals and trumpets, I heard, โthis already happenโ. Flash forward a couple of months and then I heard when coming out of a dream โRevelation 20โ. Then after a little research it all clicked. It truly is a lot. It means everything we think about our known world has been altered and flipped upside down. (Except Jesus of course. He is the rock and cornerstone holding it all together still). I understand why Q would say, disinformation is necessary. Even for โour sideโ. Like, if they just started exposing these truths it would be too much for anyone unless God removed those scales first. or everyone would just automatically write Q off because it would be too crazy. If you need anyone to talk to please feel free to DM me! I presented this theory to some friends and they can โseeโ it. Itโs been nice to talk and bounce ideas off each other and talk through it all.
What I believe: We are indeed being given a reprieve from GOD, Satan and his minions are about to receive justice and be thrown into (eternal?) damnation. We will enter the 1000 years of peace and then Satan will be loosed upon the world for the final tribulation. The dead in Christ will rise and fight the final battle
4
4 has been what my heart has felt but I can't say for certainy
Once upon a time, a wise man said "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." At this time, truth is being unveiled (the Apocalypse). Unfortunately deception is "necessary" so truth is hard to discern. But the above quote sounds like a promise, and there are some good signs (like the royal family seemingly disappearing). I'm keeping the faith until Trump comes back.
Hey I know that quote. Comes from an awesome book. Heard it's the best seller of all time ๐๐ Lol
Keep the faith fren. God wins. God bless u
https://theamericanclassroom.substack.com/p/the-great-awakening-and-the-american
At work so not able to read through this. Will check it out later today. Thanks for sharing though
Matthew 24:8-13 King James Version
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Matthew 24:4 to 7 describes the start of the seven-year Tribulation period, as indicated by the use, in verse 8, of the phrase, โAll these [the events mentioned in verses 4 to 7] are the beginning of sorrows.โ The judgments of the Tribulation period will come with increasing rapidity and harshness as the period progresses, in the same way that birth pains come increasingly faster and are more painful just prior to the birth.
The phrase โthe beginning of sorrowsโ is equivalent to the beginning of the Tribulation period, that last seven-year period of Danielโs prophecy recorded in Daniel 9:24 to 27. This places the events of Matthew 24 in the Tribulation period. The church, having been raptured prior to this period, is not in view in this portion of Scripture.
https://israelmyglory.org/article/the-beginning-of-sorrows-matthew-244-8/
Personally the idea of the rapture has always felt off to me. Or at least how it's typically understood. Though I leave room for it to be true as well.
So how do you think Q ties into all this.
Thanks for sharing. Great scripture right there
Q brings these biblical events into the 21 century and explains as freely as the Qgroup is allowed where the road we are on ties into biblical events, but does so in a non alienating fashion. Many non Christians are following the Q phenomenon. Future proves past brings clarity for all.
So the golden age and revelation Are 2 separate things in your view?
I vote for 4 because it makes the most logical sense. We don't know, and we can't know, and our brains are not yet capable of understanding. That's what faith is - coming to terms with that and trusting God.
Yep faith is so important and requires us to accept we can't know it all
My thoughts are that we will not know the actual time. There have been many times when people thought it was the end of times.
Going by Revelations, we are hearing rumors of war. But that could be said for many other periods of time. The Antichrist may be born, but has not revealed himself as yet. We are certainly not in the tribulation period (as of yet). It will be horrible for all but it will be particularly brutal for the unbelievers. The Church (true Christians) have yet to be taken up. Whether it will be before the tribulations or during is up to debate by religious scholars.
We are much closer than before as we now have the technology for the mark of the beast where we cannot buy or sell without the mark on our hand or forehead.
The third temple of Jerusalem has not been built to date. That is the key I have been told. They have their red heifers for sacrifice and everything else they need but there is no temple as of now
Reminder, the phrase "Wars and rumors of wars" is in the bible as part of Matthew 24: 6-13.
If you are willing to explore other ideas I would encourage you to look up jtfollowsjc on YouTube and x. It's definitely an interesting take on things. Something inside me tells me the typical views of revelation are not correct. I just know they thought they understood things the first time Jesus came. Look how wrong the scholars were. With that said though I am still open to the typical theories on revelation. Just trying to keep an open mind as well
I see a variation on 3. Trump is more like a "Judge" in the vein of the book of Judges like Gideon or others.