Ok you smart Anons!
How does Trump actually pull this off? How does he abolish income tax?
The house and senate would have to agree to this correct? All the D's are going to say no.
How many Rinos are going to say no as well?
The only way I see this. The miltary would need to be behind the scenes holding a gun to their heads.
How say you?
What are your thoughts on this?
NOTE: I actually proof read this time :)
It will be done in stages & a lot of unnecessary gov't positions will eliminated. There will always be taxes, but so much can be eliminated because of corruption in gov't from the Federal level to dog catcher.
Unless changing the tax structure requires a supermajority in both Houses, I think a straight vote signed into law could change it. Don't think PDT can do via EO. As far as how it would work - simple - tarriffed products replace the income tax into the treasury. If the math is right, it's just a swap.Then people have 20-35% more income to spend on goods and services. Incentive for domestic companies to produce a product traditionally made overseas. Build American business. Win win win.
like the biden eos...
it would be crazy. could you imagine POTUS saying dont pay taxes anymore. Is the IRS going to arrest everyone? he controls them. then watch ad your local and state reps try to tell you to need to pay taxes. they would be tarred and feathered. its an interesting play if for no other reason for biden to have to answer the question, if they ask him if he is reelected will he kill taxes he says no its win for potus if he says yes why isn't he doing it now.
we all know something is happening with the fed and our economy. I wonder if this is it.
The 16th amendment would have to be repealed by a Convention of the States or 2/3 of both houses of CONgress. So no - a regular law couldn't change it.
That’s not really true. The amendment just says that Congress can tax income. It doesn’t need to be repealed or modified to not tax income, you simply stop taxing income. Other forms of tax were already allowed under the constitution. To prevent an income tax from being reinstated by mere statute, you’re correct, though. We need an amendment that reverts back to taxes being either direct and apportioned or indirect and uniform among the states.
What if someone had Proof the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified ?
Wayne Benson, R.I.P. 1927-2021 https://thelawthatneverwas.com/ ___ He went to all of the States which “ratified” the 16th Amendment and found all the errors. Some errors seem to be punctuation errors, but some errors seem to serious and in some cases there seems to be outright fraud.
Yes he did. Errors are errors though. Just like they found out it was an error to pass the original 13th Amendment and the King went to War to memory hole it.
iirc, the IRS was never formalized into law, but i could be mistaken on that...i much prefer a "consumption tax" (sales tax) because if you can afford to buy expensive items, you'll pay more taxes than the rest of us who are barely getting by...and those "non-citizens" will hafta pay the same sales tax just like citizens...just my opinion...
Another advantage of consumption tax is that your savings will grow tax free since you only pay taxes when you spend. People dont realise this, but X% consumption taxes is FAR better than X% income taxes depending on how much you spend and how much you save.
And not having to do your taxes every year.
I agree with this. This way you get penalized for over spending, and not for earning a living.
I agree with that.
In some parts of the world, it's already his birthday. 🎂
The income tax is not a provision of the Constitution.
He can get it thrown out through the Supreme Court. Although, I don't know that he will have to go that route. Most of our Congress is criminal with blackmail being held over them to keep them in line. Those that survive the elections can be told they will play ball or face charges. We have it all can be interpreted as you will play ball by our rules now.
Look up the 16th Amendment. Amendments (ratified) are part of the Constitution.
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/16th-amendment
Right! The 16th Amendment, which as improperly ratified, does not implement an income tax. Purportedly it allows Congress to enact taxes on income (a gain derived by investment of capital) without apportionment among the States. ____ If someone works and gets compensation or remuneration, that’s a fair trade of one’s time and energy for “dinero”. But the taxation judges and attorneys say you are not worth your pay. Your effort is capital invested and the remuneration is a gain, not an equal exchange, so people who work get their life effort taken away by them. A Louisiana guy prepared this argument, which is rejected by the courts, but he is correct anyways — his “Power to Tax” argument is rejected by the courts, but he provided the Supreme Court with the truth: (filed 2019) https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-7887/87908/20190213113417802_00000007.pdf ____ Attorney L. Becraft shows that the courts are not in agreement with what the income tax actually is. http://home.hiwaay.net/%7Ebecraft/UNCERTAIN.html
I think right now, he floats it out there to gain public support.
Then he takes the battle to congress when he's president, and they reject it of course. The public fervor over that can cause massive uprisings.
Much if not all of the income tax will be replaced by tariffs, energy, interest on loans to other countries, etc. The cost of government will go down dramatically. Money to fund the democrat machine will totally dry up. Much of the debt will go poof.
This is good.
I just don’t know how he pulls this off.
IRS was created to tax people so they can make interest payment on money printed via the Fed scam.
The correct way to fund government is via commercial taxes and consumption taxes. Almost every country has implemented some form of VAT/GST etc in the past 10-15 years, and I believe this is in preparation for abandoning the income taxes.
Once Fed is exposed and destoyed, taxes will be gone as well and governments will be funded with these commercial taxes. Also, people will be aware enough to understand why big governments are bad and why we shouldnt spend recklessly.
All these factors together will make it possible to have no income taxes, budgets witout deficits and a free world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service
It appears a bill would need to go through congress, and something along this course of action has already been tried recently, and does have some congressional support.
When you guys are saying that tarrifs will take the place of income tax in generating income, what exactly will the tarrifs be on, and who is paying it? Will there be tarrifs on everything, like sales tax, that everyone has to pay? Or will it only be on certain things?
That’s what I am trying to figure out as well.
What if outside of defense soending (not that it doesnt have its own problems) everything else is so rife with corruption that there is not use in trying to salvage it?
.Reset.......
Step 1. Promote the idea to the people who pay.
Step 2. Get those people to vote for keeping their money instead of giving it to evil causes.
Step 3. Win the election.
Step 4. KILL THE FED (this is the key).
Step 5. Go back to sound Constitutional money and use Congress to pass new anti-corruption and banking laws for the people. (Banks may not even be necessary. Cryptocurrencies backed by auditable commodities will enable the people to use secure and private technologies.
Step 6. Redistribute the quadrillions of stolen wealth to the people.
New system that is fully funded and backed by reality. No income tax (aka slavery) needed.
I am more of the school of thought that the entire government, including the governments of most states if not all of them, is illegitimate, so it doesn't matter what they vote or want to vote on. Instead, the military will enforce order under a reconstruction-like arrangement. In this scenario they introduce a new currency (based on gold, silver and other tangible resources of course) and income taxes will neither be available nor used. The military will fund itself based on tariffs taken in previous metals.
As state governments are restored and admitted into the restored union, they will have the opportunity to create their own tax structures, but income tax will be a hard sell, given that elections will be honest. A bit unconventional compared to other responses, but that's what I'm thinking.
Convention of States?
So we don't like what politicians do to us but we would let them hold a convention where they can gut the constitution? No thanks !
Ah... this is a good idea!