Got into a "discussion" with an office liberal who thinks Trump is Satan reincarnate. Like most attempts at reasoning with them, it went nowhere. She implored me to please look up project2025 and then discuss it with her. I am reasonable so I agreed.
I did a brief search online as I had never heard of project2025. I was amazed at the flood of articles and videos about it. I also noticed they ALL were from msm and majorly left leaning pundits.
Has anyone looked into this before and can give a synopsis of what is going on? Almost seems like a major foothold on the minds of people that may be a reason that they wont listen to logical thinking.
Misinformation campaign this widespread that I have never even heard of? Disturbing.
It’s not President Trump’s project, it is a wishlist compiled by “Conservative” Think Tanks. My jaded side thinks its intent could be to hurt President Trump.
https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/
President Trump has his own agenda, Agenda 47:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/
Correct. Pay attention to Agenda 47 from President Trump's own website. Anything else has to be considered fake until proven otherwise. Pro tip: most info we see is fake, part of one psyop or another. Most people still have not figured that out... and they continue to get misled and played as a result.
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I'm curious, have you asked her which part(s) specifically she disagrees with?
Confessing it was just skimmed by me, but wondering if she is imploring you to read that which she has not?
She has major TDS. On a level I have not seen before. It is an illogical hatred. I am assuming as well, but likely she has not read the 900 plus pages and she, like all other liberals, is parroting talking points.
will she even go as far to refuse to agree that at least the economy and NO wars under Trumps 4 years was better?
I will have to pose that question. I am curious to her response to that.
I know what you mean with this!
She hates him because he wouldn't consider her
Probably the police immunity thing, that’s what I’ve heard liberals screeching about. They fear monger other black people, telling them they’ll get killed by police between Karens and swatting calls, and it’ll be what they voted for.
https://www.project2025.org/about/advisory-board/
The fact that there are that many NGOs attached to this makes me believe this is Uniparty deep state beaucracy.
Without even looking, lemme guess... every single time?
Yes i see it on Twitter. Just something cooked up by MSM
Ask her to show where Trump says he endorses it
A lot of my libtard "friends" on Fakebook have had their panties in a twist complaining about how Trump is leading project 2025 and we're all doomed. 🙄 I had never heard of it, either, until they kept mentioning it and comparing it to Hitler. A little research about how it's for less government, and the fact the libtards hate it, makes it sound good. 🤷♀️
Sounds like the "Christian Nationalist Plot" my one remaining liberal acquaintance talked of months ago. Everyone at the table (whom he seems to forget are MAGA) laughed and I even asked him if he was a flat Earther now just to troll his ass. He never brought it up again.
this is the first i've heard of this as well. does anyone know where it originated from and who the author is?
I see the Heritage Foundation spoke about alot. I am not familiar.
As others have mentioned, their about website:
https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/
I checked out the domain on the ICANN lookup, and it's all "data redacted"...not sure if that's common?
https://noqreport.com/2023/04/17/project-2025-lays-out-a-plan-to-dismantle-the-deep-state-under-a-conservative-president/
I don't know if that's helpful or not ...
Can confirm that Project 2025 is the new/main fear mongering talking point being shared by liberals on social media. Which tells me it is a plant. Good point to whoever raised the Trump 47 agenda as a true "policy" guide stone. Until now, I have just retorted with "well, even if true, I'd rather have Project 2025 than the UN's Project 2030 which is the literal loss of sovereignty and representative democracy."
Do they understand what sovereignty and freedom are?
Do they want them?
That's not Trump's agenda or website.
If Trump is "Satan incarnate", then ask if she's a pedo and start calling her that.
Liberal bitches and their simps have ruined this country.
She says that Trump surrounds himself with Pedo's and when I direct her to the Liberals grooming children in schools and the push to normalize pedophilia, she talks like it is just fake propaganda.
I usually keep my distance with one on one conversations as the TDS is on another level.
It is funny though. She says I should stop watching Fox News. I laugh and tell her I don't watch that leftist garbage. I hate Fox equally with the rest of the controlled media
Nothing confuses leftards more than when you're right wing but calling Fox News fake as well. They're still running on such outdated programming.
Never worked for me. They’ll insist I’m brainwashed by FOX while I’m citing CNN.
Project 2025 is just a disinformation campaign to keep TDS libs in line.
Reddit has been dooming about Project 2025 for a year.
Why has Trump never mentioned it?
Or Lindell? Or Laura? Rudy?
No one actually in with Trump has mentioned it
Because they have nothing to do with it so why give it attention and risk looking like they're giving it legitimacy?
Why not use it? You need thousands of people to move into these departments to dismantle the deep state.
Its about as real as Dr. Evil's Preparation H
I never heard of it. It's crazy how many liberal attacks there are on youtube about it.
Must have a heck of a bubble around it.
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i'm very surprised the leftards of late night BS and the view, haven't put this project 2025 on blast? not that i watch them, but i see clips of some of 'their' content on the internet and haven't seen anything about project 2025. first time i've heard of this.
I bet it is coming.
They've been working on this playbook a long time. When we get in office they'll be fire left behind these guys from pace. Their going to change alot about our government and it's truly exciting!
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I don't believe Trump is involved at all with it. I believe it was put out to combat the positivity of Agenda 47 because they are similar in many ways
I can't say I'd heard of it before now, but a shallow dive makes me think it doesn't really seem all that bad. I asked Perplexity to summarize it; here's what it said:
summarize the goals of project2025.org
Project 2025 is a conservative initiative led by the Heritage Foundation aimed at preparing for a potential Republican administration taking office in January 2025. Its main goals include:
Developing a comprehensive conservative policy agenda covering major issues facing the country[1][3].
Creating a database of conservative personnel to fill government positions[1].
Providing training for potential conservative administrators through workshops, seminars, and mentorship[1].
Crafting a 180-day playbook of actions to quickly implement conservative policies[1].
Dismantling what they call the "administrative state" by reducing federal bureaucracy and increasing presidential control over agencies[3][4].
Promoting conservative values in areas like family, immigration, energy policy, and individual rights[4].
Implementing significant changes in various federal agencies, including potential elimination of some departments[4].
Advancing controversial policies such as restricting abortion access, changing immigration policies, and altering climate and economic approaches[4].
The project aims to have a fully developed plan and vetted personnel ready to implement conservative policies immediately upon a Republican president taking office in 2025[2][5].
Citations: [1] Project 2025 | Presidential Transition Project https://www.project2025.org
[2] About Project 2025
https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/
[3] Policy | Project 2025
https://www.project2025.org/policy/
[4] Project 2025: The Trump presidency wish list, explained - BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do
[5] What Is Project 2025? | TIME https://time.com/6986995/what-is-project-2025/
If you don't know of it or anything about it and she is using it as a red herring or supposed cugel to beat you with then it's quite literally a strawman argument. Don't even engage on it.
You could say that Hitler was a socialist and Bernie sanders and the left are socialist and use that in the reverse direction to say she supports the killing of news. But either way that is also a falacious argument.
I did not type news.... Did a mod edit/sensor my post?
J is next to N on your keyboard.
I am seeing it as an opportunity to understand where liberals are being mislead. That statement made me lol.
Yes, just went to a meeting for this. I don't think anyone really knows what it could be. It's a good starting point for appointees since they dropped the ball on that last time. But it's not what they are making it out to be. But that underscores the point, that even the slightest change in Washington is completely off limits for them.
I applied some months ago and got accepted. It is a great plan if Trump is elected. This is how we take over the deep state.
Project 2025 is a compilation of hundreds of conservatives. https://www.project2025.org/policy/
It is basically the Heritage Foundation pushing for their policy ideas... Trump followed much of their policies in his first term.
If you want to see how liberals really think about this, John Oliver did a segment on Project 2025: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYwqpx6lp_s
I think Project 2025 sounds awesome. All the more reason to vote Trump.
oh my gosh i feel your pain with the liberal know it all's. i have many family members that are like this. the biggest question i have for the libtards is this, do you believe in my body, my choice? of course every single one of them say YES. then i bring up the jabbs and say ok, if it truly is my body, by choice then i shouldn't get shit from anyone when i say no to the jab. all of a sudden i'm selfish and ignorant because my choice to not jab affects many, where their choice to kill a baby (my words, not theirs) is that is one person's personal and private decision. you cannot argue with stupid. you have to plant a seed and walk away. the Bible talks a lot about NOT arguing with a fool.
I remember reading about this. I was worried about it myself.