I need some help fleshing this out. Feel free to add to it.
Acting Secretary of the Department of Defense Chris Miller thanked VP Pence for efforts in "most complex military operations this country has ever conducted".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-jxqwTWkuw
Miller to VP Pence: “We’ve been through some stuff. We’ve gone through some of the most complex military operations this country has ever conducted...thank you for your leadership... character... selfless service...”
That was December 2020. Three weeks later Pence certified the 2020 election, and the aftermath of that was the passage of the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022. That act specified that the vice president's role at the joint session of congress to count electoral votes is ministerial and that he or she cannot solely adjudicate disputes over electors.
https://ballotpedia.org/Electoral_Count_Reform_and_Presidential_Transition_Improvement_Act_of_2022
That bring us to 2024, and now Kommublabla is VP and will be presiding over the joint session of Congress to certify the election. ECRPTIA has effectively neutralized the VP in any disputes arising from the count. We know the demonrats have something up their sleeve and are waiting to strike. They've been too quiet since Tuesday but have made it clear they will pull every dirty trick to not certify the election. I'm wondering how ECRPTIA plays into their scheme.
We've debated whether Pence is a white hat, black hat, or gray hat. If this is all part of the plan, I'm of the mind he's a gray hat who leans white. We know he was aligned with Paul Ryan at one point. However, we've seen plenty of people come out of the dark into the light. Maybe he's one of them but has stayed behind the scenes?
Anyway, my thoughts on this are kind of scattered and I find it difficult to assemble the pieces. What say you, my fellow frogs?
I think Pence is a White Hat. Secretary of Defense Chris Miller saying that to Pence was to me one of many confirmations of The Plan and an early one for me. Miller's military background is SpecOps. Clearly put in place before end of Trumps 1st term to install ground work for CoG, implement EOs and President in exile details. Pence played his role. Now if we want to debate Pompeo, he is much more of a question mark to me.
I could maybe buy that except all the rumors of pedophilia while he was IN governor.
Back in the heat of the moment in Jan 2021, I remember reading a heartbroken Neon Revolt post the day before Jan 6 that Pence would betray Trump at the last minute. Neon said his source told him that Pence was a closet homosexual who preferred young teenage boys, and the DEMs, knowing this weakness, had honeypotted him with a teenaged boy and had video and photos as blackmail material. This blackmail operation had occurred when Pence was still living in Indiana (as Governor, perhaps?). The DEMs threatened to expose Pence unless he cooperated on Jan 6.
One other thing - I recall seeing emails or text messages between the Paul Ryan and the Pence camp during the RNC Convention in 2016 where Ryan was conspiring to unseat Trump as the Republican nominee and replace the Trump-Pence ticket with a Ryan-Pence ticket. Fortunately, Team Trump caught wind of the planned “coup” and scuttled it before it could gain traction.
Summarized version? Being generous, I’d say Pence was a gray hat. Absent that generosity, I’d call him a weak, traitorous scumbag.
However… in the end (as far as that can be currently framed), it all worked out for the better. DEM and Deep State governance (under Biden) went from being hardly noticeable to the average Joe Blow to becoming bat-shit insane to everyone. And the result? Trump 47!
I'm with you, for the same reasons, plus- The Fly Knows. Grey hat at best.
I can’t get over his wife getting an envelope at Bush Sr. funeral
yeah that guy on YT accused Pence of pedofilia back in 2015/16 and then died of cancer poisoning 6 months later lol so jury is out. Maybe he flipped who knows
Flipped makes him an asset though. I don't really see much redemption if even a fraction of that were true, and so not explicitly a white hat. Just an asset. An asset that presently is not supposed to be liked one way or another.
What Republican hasn’t been accused of pefophilia?
When this is all sauced out years from now I truly hope its shown he was a white hat playing a role all along. I see many more things pointing in this direction as opposed to it. At the same time he could very well just be a compromised pawn like many others in DC - always leaning towards good strong America first values until some blackmail something has him do something against character. We may never know.
I think he is definitely playing a role only because White Hats turned him. They had something on him. That’s probably why Trump put him in charge of Covid. They knew he was a weak player and would do whatever the DS wanted. So I’d say he’s not so much a WH but caught by the WH’s and must comply.
Honestly aside from Jan 6th he seemed just too stalwart and God fearing not to be playing a role. We know Trump had to lose, and what Trump tweeted about him right before it happened seemed intentionally cryptic for a reason. Time will tell.
Devil's Advocate because obviously this all speculation. What if pence and Miller were referring to the fedsurrection and are not white hats? I've heard or seen a few disparaging comments from Miller over the past few years seemingly directed at Trump. No sauce cause I can't find it atm.
Yes I remember reading a transcript from Jan 6 UnSelect committee. He was quoted as saying he wasn’t listening to DJT speech that day and said it in a very derogatory way, as if he thought DJT was a fool. But then he and Kash Patel corroborated story on Trump offering the NG for Jan 6. It’s all very confusing. Also I think I saw an interview once and he intimated his wife was a DEM. Like you, I heard and read things but cannot link the sources now. I don’t have the tech skills frankly.
I forget, who gave pence is challenge coin after certifying the election. I got the clip of it somewhere.
Pelosi and I do remember Pence looking a bit puzzled by it.