In 2020 I got rid of two 50gal gas water heaters and replaced with a navien tankless (recirc on timer). I also replaced two burnham cast iron furnaces with a lochinvar wall mount. I also installed a Lopi Liberty that I winter burn 24x7. Excel Gas and electric bill is now higher than 2020.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across. I guarantee that one tankless would use less energy than two 50-gallon water heaters but not sure what all the other things you mention have to do with this discussion. As far as your gas and electric bills - mine are higher than in 2020 as well and I have not changed a single appliance during that time - the reason? My gas and electric rates have gone up because of all the "Green energy" regulations implemented under Biden and my loony lefty state government.
Biden did this to either 1) make it take longer for Trump to implement his agenda (Think law suits by environmental groups); 2) Biden getting kick-backs from an industry set to make a windfall off of the new regulations; or 3) Both 1 and 2 (most likely)
Expanding insidious government infiltration into every aspect of our daily lives-first gas stoves now gas water heaters what’s next backyard gas grills?
On the flip side, if it turns out that zero-point energy is really a thing, then we can heat our water for free via electricity from a source that's the size of a shoebox and can power the entire house.
Eh, you'd need a pretty large turbine and large water flow to get decent power. I've seen tons of "off grid" water wheel / dams / turbines / river inventions to make power, and none of them can do much more than power one fridge.
Id need a shitload more than a few watts of energy produced by a creek
If you have surplus solar power, and not feeding back to grid, heating that water tank is a good way to store excess energy. Place the gas-based water heater, in series, after the electricity-based water heater, for cloudy days.
I kind of wonder who is giving him his marching orders? It could be a number of people either all together or each one is an expert on what the Dems/Commies want and make him do it.
Wonder what the greenies will make of this, these have been touted for their efficiency.
Not only efficient but long lasting as well. I've had mine for 20+ years and not a single issue the entire time and very little maintenance required.
In 2020 I got rid of two 50gal gas water heaters and replaced with a navien tankless (recirc on timer). I also replaced two burnham cast iron furnaces with a lochinvar wall mount. I also installed a Lopi Liberty that I winter burn 24x7. Excel Gas and electric bill is now higher than 2020.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to get across. I guarantee that one tankless would use less energy than two 50-gallon water heaters but not sure what all the other things you mention have to do with this discussion. As far as your gas and electric bills - mine are higher than in 2020 as well and I have not changed a single appliance during that time - the reason? My gas and electric rates have gone up because of all the "Green energy" regulations implemented under Biden and my loony lefty state government.
Exactly. Rates are higher and the offset I did in 2020 is a wash. Echo the loony’s in CO!
Fucking shithole calirado gay governor dual citizen poleass…
Apologies…
You in Michigan?
Nope
We have a looney leftistbstate government too.
Is the bill higher because of energy cost increase or because or energy consumption increase?
What manufacturer
Rinnai
They don't want us to have hot water.
Not for long.
the target is farmers an off grid folks
Tankless water heaters fire up on demand.
Water heaters with tanks keep that entire amount of water heated. How is that more efficient?!?
It’s not.
Answer: It's not.
Biden did this to either 1) make it take longer for Trump to implement his agenda (Think law suits by environmental groups); 2) Biden getting kick-backs from an industry set to make a windfall off of the new regulations; or 3) Both 1 and 2 (most likely)
Expanding insidious government infiltration into every aspect of our daily lives-first gas stoves now gas water heaters what’s next backyard gas grills?
More electricity = Roth $
Don't give them any ideas on their way out the door.
On the flip side, if it turns out that zero-point energy is really a thing, then we can heat our water for free via electricity from a source that's the size of a shoebox and can power the entire house.
Let me know when that happens, please.
The globohomo does NOT want us to have cheap, or especially FREE energy.
They want us in constant fear of not being able to heat out homes, cool out homes, or even have stable electricity.
They want us to have 3rd world rolling blackouts, and to pay them exorbitant amounts of money for power.
It's why they are cutting us off from nuclear, and not allowing fusion reactors to become a viable power source.
You can thank "God's chosen people" for this all
Mini hydro seems like a good source of steady power. It should take you off the grid permanently.
Eh, you'd need a pretty large turbine and large water flow to get decent power. I've seen tons of "off grid" water wheel / dams / turbines / river inventions to make power, and none of them can do much more than power one fridge.
Id need a shitload more than a few watts of energy produced by a creek
That's exactly what they are doing...
If you have surplus solar power, and not feeding back to grid, heating that water tank is a good way to store excess energy. Place the gas-based water heater, in series, after the electricity-based water heater, for cloudy days.
Who cares what Biden does? He's illegitimate
This will be reversed somehow.
Overreach + treason = this
This fucking retard in Oval Office larping as President is trying to inflict mass damage before he's kicked out on his stupid old ass.
I'm not getting rid of mine. He can go suck eggs
Hes one of the few that can afford them.
When we got ours we got energy credits and rebates. Now they’re bad? Idiots! I assume this is for new installations and not existing?
Won't stand.
I kind of wonder who is giving him his marching orders? It could be a number of people either all together or each one is an expert on what the Dems/Commies want and make him do it.
Fuck Joe Biden and the Chinese hires he rode in on.
Fourteen days and a wake-up.
They'll keep the autopen busy until the last second.