Funny story on that front. My mother in law hates Trump, and her "nice' way of explaining why to my son is "He says silly things, like wind turbines kill whales and dolphins" and since he was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT when he said that, I had an ace in the hole for her.
I said "It sounds silly but its 100% true. They make tons of pounding noise under the water which causes severe stress to animals who navigate and communicate via long range sound and echolocation. It does in fact kill them. Oversea wind turbines are killing wildlife. Is that 'silly?'" and she legit replies "he's still not very smart."
I ask "How often does he have to be right before you'll change your mind?" She didn't have an answer. I asked "Why should I vote for Kamala if she's not only wrong VERY often, but just as often proven to be lying through her teeth? And Trump is proven to be correct more often than not? Simply by that metric Trump is the obvious choice."
Don't buy into the environmentalist BS. The Birds are fine. If anything, it aids in natural selection. Only the really dumb birds are getting taken out by the slow moving metal blades.
The worst effects of the windmills is in the name itself: WIND! Ever notice how whenever there are windmills around, the air is always blowing like crazy? These are giant freaking metal fans. You want to know why we have more hurricanes or so-called "climate change"? Oh, it is man made alright, but not from harmless Co2 (we have it in our bodies and are just fine). It is from things like wind turbines and HARP.
I recently drove 5,250 miles from the West Coast to the East Coast and back, and I couldn't help but be struck by how unattractive these massive wind turbines are.
Most of them were stationary, worst of all they mar the beautiful mountain, farmland, and valley landscapes that once defined cross-country driving.
As many of us have recognized for years, wind turbines don't produce enough energy to justify the substantial costs associated with their engineering, manufacturing, transportation, installation, and ongoing maintenance (leaving hoards of them motionless across the countryside).
Furthermore, the electrical grid isn’t capable of efficiently capturing and distributing the energy they generate. Wind power is highly intermittent, fluctuating as wind speeds change or go to nil.
There is currently, and never will be imo, an efficient and effective technology to store energy for use when the wind isn’t blowing or blows too much—produces more that the system can distribute.
Battery storage, which some think may resolve the issue, is similarly inefficient. It also comes with its own significant costs—ranging from the engineering, manufacturing, and installation—and suffers from short life spans and high risk safety issues—further limiting its practicality as a solution.
Yes, solar farms are not as "green" or desired as the libs scream. The residents of our county had a fit when one farmer sold out to a solar farm. Issue gained a lot of local attention and now local zoning boards are writing new rules to combat large solar farms. One local township zoning department already changed their rules to minimize this problem. No more solar panels are permitted on the ground (must be a structure) and must be facing away from frontage. The irony of solar farms here where I'm at in NE Ohio is we don't get much sunshine in the winter. Heck, sometimes even in the Spring!
It's all too obvious that wind power, and solar power in places like NE U.S., are just ways to suck taxpayer money into the coffers of several companies, and into politician's accounts as well.
We cant make energy out of nothing it has to come out of somewhere, solar from the sun. And gas is packed full of energy we harvest.
For reasons we cannot harvest the magnetic field of the earth. BUT the easiest reason is that if (if) we could we be stealing from the magnetic barrier that shields the earth from charged particles from the sun.
For more technical reasons we cant, but IF we could, we'd weaken the shield and smaller solar flares could get through and fry satellites and ground electronics maybe.
I agree with your points, but I believe they are somewhat irrelevant in this context. The amount of energy we would use is negligible, and more importantly, the use of this energy does not deplete or harm the original energy source in any way. This means that, despite the concerns raised, the overall impact remains minimal and does not lead to any long-term depletion or negative consequences.
I think the magnetic field around earth is due to its molten core spinning. Its why the magnetic poles match the rotation poles. I think if energy is siphoned off of this field that it can only contribute to slowing the earths rotation. And that doesnt come back.
No device small enough to fit on earth could harvest anything off the field.
The field direction and strength is the same for even a city sized object (think compass). You need differences (a high ball rolling to a low valley) to harvest energy
Its moreso harvesting the earth's rotation through magnetism than the magnetism being harvested itself.
Fusion is just a liberal slush fund. Seriously, countless billions of dollars spent building giant metal donates. "Just give us a few hundred more billion and a decade or two". We are all getting taken for a ride. Notice how fusion is always promoted by the climate change people? Yeah, that right there should tell you everything you need to know about fusion.
Same for the superconductors that u/brennywaffle mentioned. It sounds awfully convenient that you have this exciting, revolutionary new technology, but it is expensive and can only be tested in a lab with our special cooling equipment. No, your freezer at home won't work, you need a special freezer that costs millions of dollars. The best thing so-called "superconductors" are good for is conducting money from the government and into the hands of the liberal elite.
The scientists dont control where the money goes (corruption could be all throughout it), and these reactors are suuuch a complicated feat of engineering that ITER (the largest experimental fusion reactor worldwide, under construction) has atleast a hundred PhD's chugging at it. And its still progressing slowly.
Superconductors arent new.
CERN's been using them in their particle accelerator. Proven largescale engineering feat, not only labscale. It needs liquid helium which is realllllly expensive.
What IS new and IS labscale is superconducting material (under very high pressure). The temperture it needs is only with liquid nitrogen, waaay cheaper. But the high pressure is impossible to have anything useful yet. Only labscale.
Life on earth is possible because of FUSION from the sun. Just like with birds and flying: we can see it, so it can be done.
CERN's been using them in their particle accelerator
Please see above about fusion donuts and superconductors. A particle accelerator is another device that costs billions of dollars, can only be used in special locations, and apparently discovers particles that no one else can actually see. It just seems so obvious. Like the supposed Higgs boson. They literally wrote about this being a possibility in 1964 before it was then "discovered" in 2012. I expect that they'll keep coming out with a new particle every couple years or decades. None of this is practical, but we continue to flush billions of dollars into it.
Life on earth is possible because of FUSION from the sun. Just like with birds and flying: we can see it, so it can be done.
We have created fusion here on earth already. It is called a thermonuclear bomb. Call me crazy, but I really don't think we should be building these near every major city, even if they are supposedly "safe". This sounds like a perfect plan for enslaving large population centers. Once they set up enough of these, all they have to do is let one or two go critical, make examples out of a few cities, and everyone else will comply.
I hope the BLM is listening. Very few in Idaho want the proposed Lava Ridge project, but they approved it anyway. (And supposedly with all the generated power going to... checks notes - California.)
These windmills, when torn down and decommissioned , are placed/buried in landfills, where they will spend 1000’s of years decomposing and leeching toxic chemicals into the surrounding environment…. But hey… climate Change or somethin
If they're petroleum based, then they'll turn back into oil eventually. Don't buy into the environmentalist lies. Oil comes from the ground. If you spill a bunch of oil, it will just get soaked back in, like water. We need to just bury all the windmills and move back to coal. Seriously, it powered our grid for decades without any problems. It works great.
If you haven't watched Landman on Paramount, you are missing out. The main character (Billy Bob Thornton) is very based. If you enjoy Yellowstone, odds are pretty good this one will become another favorite.
After this year, I won't have to worry, when the winter temps go too low, whether Texas will experience a repeat of the 2021 winter storm grid failures.
He is right! They not only kill the birds, they damage the livestock. Their swoosh swoosh noise/ and the flicker that is created when the sun hits the blades, has been proven to stress out the livestock, and their breeding numbers dropped in herds near the windmills. Those blasted blades cannot be recycled, so they bury them! What a farce!.
He left out criminal level scientific fraud.
I'm so impatient. I hated the windmills day one.
And the damn things kill birds. You would have expected any real environmentalists to oppose them just for that. But crickets...
Funny story on that front. My mother in law hates Trump, and her "nice' way of explaining why to my son is "He says silly things, like wind turbines kill whales and dolphins" and since he was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT when he said that, I had an ace in the hole for her.
I said "It sounds silly but its 100% true. They make tons of pounding noise under the water which causes severe stress to animals who navigate and communicate via long range sound and echolocation. It does in fact kill them. Oversea wind turbines are killing wildlife. Is that 'silly?'" and she legit replies "he's still not very smart."
I ask "How often does he have to be right before you'll change your mind?" She didn't have an answer. I asked "Why should I vote for Kamala if she's not only wrong VERY often, but just as often proven to be lying through her teeth? And Trump is proven to be correct more often than not? Simply by that metric Trump is the obvious choice."
"I don't wanna talk about Trump anymore."
XD
Don't buy into the environmentalist BS. The Birds are fine. If anything, it aids in natural selection. Only the really dumb birds are getting taken out by the slow moving metal blades.
The worst effects of the windmills is in the name itself: WIND! Ever notice how whenever there are windmills around, the air is always blowing like crazy? These are giant freaking metal fans. You want to know why we have more hurricanes or so-called "climate change"? Oh, it is man made alright, but not from harmless Co2 (we have it in our bodies and are just fine). It is from things like wind turbines and HARP.
I'm really glad to hear this.
I recently drove 5,250 miles from the West Coast to the East Coast and back, and I couldn't help but be struck by how unattractive these massive wind turbines are.
Most of them were stationary, worst of all they mar the beautiful mountain, farmland, and valley landscapes that once defined cross-country driving.
As many of us have recognized for years, wind turbines don't produce enough energy to justify the substantial costs associated with their engineering, manufacturing, transportation, installation, and ongoing maintenance (leaving hoards of them motionless across the countryside).
Furthermore, the electrical grid isn’t capable of efficiently capturing and distributing the energy they generate. Wind power is highly intermittent, fluctuating as wind speeds change or go to nil.
There is currently, and never will be imo, an efficient and effective technology to store energy for use when the wind isn’t blowing or blows too much—produces more that the system can distribute.
Battery storage, which some think may resolve the issue, is similarly inefficient. It also comes with its own significant costs—ranging from the engineering, manufacturing, and installation—and suffers from short life spans and high risk safety issues—further limiting its practicality as a solution.
And the same applies to solar!
Yes, solar farms are not as "green" or desired as the libs scream. The residents of our county had a fit when one farmer sold out to a solar farm. Issue gained a lot of local attention and now local zoning boards are writing new rules to combat large solar farms. One local township zoning department already changed their rules to minimize this problem. No more solar panels are permitted on the ground (must be a structure) and must be facing away from frontage. The irony of solar farms here where I'm at in NE Ohio is we don't get much sunshine in the winter. Heck, sometimes even in the Spring!
It's not right to use the term "farm" here. They aren't growing solar panels, they just planted and left in the ground. More like a solar parking lot.
It's all too obvious that wind power, and solar power in places like NE U.S., are just ways to suck taxpayer money into the coffers of several companies, and into politician's accounts as well.
Not "never" a way, but a long ways off. Superconducting loops already house currents which are permanently in motion without loss.
Theyre seen in tokomak reactors. Today they require supercold temps, but evidence is suggesting it can be done without it eventually.
Loooong way off, we'll have fusion power well before then and the storage issue wont matter
I agree... fusion is most likely the future. Can we tap into the EM waves around the earth, per N. Tesla? That sounds like the ultimate energy answer.
We cant make energy out of nothing it has to come out of somewhere, solar from the sun. And gas is packed full of energy we harvest.
For reasons we cannot harvest the magnetic field of the earth. BUT the easiest reason is that if (if) we could we be stealing from the magnetic barrier that shields the earth from charged particles from the sun.
For more technical reasons we cant, but IF we could, we'd weaken the shield and smaller solar flares could get through and fry satellites and ground electronics maybe.
I agree with your points, but I believe they are somewhat irrelevant in this context. The amount of energy we would use is negligible, and more importantly, the use of this energy does not deplete or harm the original energy source in any way. This means that, despite the concerns raised, the overall impact remains minimal and does not lead to any long-term depletion or negative consequences.
I think the magnetic field around earth is due to its molten core spinning. Its why the magnetic poles match the rotation poles. I think if energy is siphoned off of this field that it can only contribute to slowing the earths rotation. And that doesnt come back.
No device small enough to fit on earth could harvest anything off the field. The field direction and strength is the same for even a city sized object (think compass). You need differences (a high ball rolling to a low valley) to harvest energy
Its moreso harvesting the earth's rotation through magnetism than the magnetism being harvested itself.
Also, regarding your point, "We cant make energy out of nothing":
Energy is infinite, we use it after converting the enrgy source into a state that is needed for the application.
Fusion is just a liberal slush fund. Seriously, countless billions of dollars spent building giant metal donates. "Just give us a few hundred more billion and a decade or two". We are all getting taken for a ride. Notice how fusion is always promoted by the climate change people? Yeah, that right there should tell you everything you need to know about fusion.
Same for the superconductors that u/brennywaffle mentioned. It sounds awfully convenient that you have this exciting, revolutionary new technology, but it is expensive and can only be tested in a lab with our special cooling equipment. No, your freezer at home won't work, you need a special freezer that costs millions of dollars. The best thing so-called "superconductors" are good for is conducting money from the government and into the hands of the liberal elite.
The scientists dont control where the money goes (corruption could be all throughout it), and these reactors are suuuch a complicated feat of engineering that ITER (the largest experimental fusion reactor worldwide, under construction) has atleast a hundred PhD's chugging at it. And its still progressing slowly.
Superconductors arent new. CERN's been using them in their particle accelerator. Proven largescale engineering feat, not only labscale. It needs liquid helium which is realllllly expensive.
What IS new and IS labscale is superconducting material (under very high pressure). The temperture it needs is only with liquid nitrogen, waaay cheaper. But the high pressure is impossible to have anything useful yet. Only labscale.
Life on earth is possible because of FUSION from the sun. Just like with birds and flying: we can see it, so it can be done.
Please see above about fusion donuts and superconductors. A particle accelerator is another device that costs billions of dollars, can only be used in special locations, and apparently discovers particles that no one else can actually see. It just seems so obvious. Like the supposed Higgs boson. They literally wrote about this being a possibility in 1964 before it was then "discovered" in 2012. I expect that they'll keep coming out with a new particle every couple years or decades. None of this is practical, but we continue to flush billions of dollars into it.
We have created fusion here on earth already. It is called a thermonuclear bomb. Call me crazy, but I really don't think we should be building these near every major city, even if they are supposedly "safe". This sounds like a perfect plan for enslaving large population centers. Once they set up enough of these, all they have to do is let one or two go critical, make examples out of a few cities, and everyone else will comply.
Now if he’d say that about these damnable solar farms. They just announced 700 acres in my county her in Michigan.
I hope the BLM is listening. Very few in Idaho want the proposed Lava Ridge project, but they approved it anyway. (And supposedly with all the generated power going to... checks notes - California.)
https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/06/11/lava-ridge-wind-project-moves-forward-shrinking-to-half-the-size-of-original-proposal/
A blight on the landscape.
These windmills, when torn down and decommissioned , are placed/buried in landfills, where they will spend 1000’s of years decomposing and leeching toxic chemicals into the surrounding environment…. But hey… climate Change or somethin
In before someone discovers a way to safely melt them down into useful materials again
We Must find a way to safely turn the damnable windmills into useful materials again.
AMEN.
Let us pray
They cant be… they are petroleum based , anong other toxic chemcials…. Burning them releases all that shit into the atmosphere… not an option
If they're petroleum based, then they'll turn back into oil eventually. Don't buy into the environmentalist lies. Oil comes from the ground. If you spill a bunch of oil, it will just get soaked back in, like water. We need to just bury all the windmills and move back to coal. Seriously, it powered our grid for decades without any problems. It works great.
OR.... Someone will discover a way to safely extract the petrol from those components and we can all breathe a collective sigh of relief
Who manufactures the materials for the windmills and solar panels in this green energy fraud? Look to China.
And they are fugly too. I hate when I'm driving cross country and suddenly the landscape is full of these ugly things.
If you haven't watched Landman on Paramount, you are missing out. The main character (Billy Bob Thornton) is very based. If you enjoy Yellowstone, odds are pretty good this one will become another favorite.
Taylor Sheridan hit another home run.
Can confirm...Landman has turned into my favorite TS-produced show this far, dethroning Tulsa King!
After this year, I won't have to worry, when the winter temps go too low, whether Texas will experience a repeat of the 2021 winter storm grid failures.
He is right! They not only kill the birds, they damage the livestock. Their swoosh swoosh noise/ and the flicker that is created when the sun hits the blades, has been proven to stress out the livestock, and their breeding numbers dropped in herds near the windmills. Those blasted blades cannot be recycled, so they bury them! What a farce!.
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GOOD!!!!! It'll stop killing all those birds too!
Nothing but eyesores ruining the beautiful landscapes.
I drove through NE NM and Texas panhandle last May and I've never seen so many windmills; they went as far as the eye could see in NM!
Sad to see that Texas has bought into this liberal BS. Texas has all the energy it could possibly need. It is called oil.
too much Federal money to resist
Real Don Quixote vibes! I sometimes wonder if those windmills were really powered by breeze!
Outstanding!
Yay!!
Fuck I just watch all the winning from up north and wish to hell you'd annex at least Alberta 😅