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This Gold Card thing seems dumb.
posted 1 year ago by Based_in_Space 1 year ago by Based_in_Space +32 / -0

Maybe some 5D angle I’m not seeing but I see so many ways is will be scammed and abused by foreigners who already are scamming the immigration system. I doubt it will create many American jobs. Just jobs for more invaders.

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– bubble_bursts 16 points 1 year ago +16 / -0

We already have EB-5 visa system which is completely abused. They just need to "invest" $800K to $1 mil in specifically authorized rural areas. This allows the bureaucrats to decide where this money goes and they can tale kickbacks to approve these visas. The whole thing is corrupt.

What Trump did was to take away the whole subjective decision making from the equation and make the visa 5x more expensive, but since its flat price the money becomes very easily accountable.

Also since they are already paying 5 mil without any subjectivity, it takes away the incentives for bribery or corruption.

Its genius. BTW other countries already do it.

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– Mr_A 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Well it's better than the EB-5, that's for certain.

But selling citizenship is selling out the citizens' patrimony. It'd be better to sponsor citizens who want to start businesses and grow the talent without selling out.

I've seen plenty of neighborhoods gentrified with an influx of rich foreigners who make it unaffordable for the locals and end up changing the culture. The idea that someone who has gotten rich by leveraging the corrupt system that they're coming from (and if it's not corrupt, why would they want to come here?) will come here without eventually corrupting our system as part of their way of life is a dangerous one.

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– bubble_bursts 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Its not "selling citizenship". Its selling "pathway to citizenship". There are plenty more steps before they can become citizens.

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– Tynyyn 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

IDK, once on the path they might forget to stay on the path and head for the bushes. A millionaire in America can disappear pretty easily. For a third world millionaire it would be very easy.

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– Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Why would they need to disappear? They would be legal residents and the money for the Gold Card would be collected up front. This program will replace the corrupt EB-5 program and take away the incentive to scam the system and at 5 times the cost and it's collected up front.

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– Framus 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Same difference IMO. If they are on the path and have the money they will get it.

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– Cuomos_nipple_rings 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I live surrounded by beautiful lakes. my grandparents and many other locals families used to own homes and cottages around them, it wasn't really that expensive. Now it's all foreigners and out of state people that own it all. Prices are $10k/foot of lakefront property. I think a tax plan that gives locals an exemption on paying property taxes while increasing them for these invaders would be a good start. The Hawaiians have the same thing going on only worse. I'd love to hear how they would suggest changing it also.

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– Mr_A 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yeah, that's exactly the types of situation I'm referring to.

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– Bully_Solution 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I think a tax plan that gives locals an exemption on paying property taxes while increasing them for these invaders would be a good start.

Great idea. If a foreigner wants to "own" US land/property then said foreigner can pay for all our infrastructure.

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– Sadness 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

i disagree. It is going to bring money into the USA really fast, not just through the sale of the card.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I see gold cards coming in (or consortium of migrants pooling money together to sponsor one member to act as the front man) then turning around sponsoring other work visas and importing infinity Indians etc. like they already do. Americans need not apply.

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– Sadness 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I think that there is quite a bit of vetting planned before the GCs are issued. So it was said during the Oval office announement.

Plus, any imported labor will have to be done legally, as well, I expect. The new companies will need native English speakers in any case, so there will be plenty jobs to go around.

Just follow the rules, is all.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Vetting?

Haha. The vetting done is ridiculously full of holes. Hard to fix because some foreign paperwork and credentials is easy to forge.

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– BooniesRedneck 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

At the moment it is. Give it time.

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– Deep_Croak 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Well its $5M more than taking in people who charge us $100K per year for food and substinence. I'd say a good deal.

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– glade 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

"turning a liability into an asset is dumb"

OP

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– Based_in_Space [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It’s turning one liability into another. Foreign Corporate overlords cheer!

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– glade 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

cool it with the anti Semitism

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– Based_in_Space [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

🤣

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– floridafrog 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Do the math 1 million Gold cards= 5 trillion dollars

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– RC22 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

And there are 58 million millionaires in the world.

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– HenryTheRed 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Millionaires and above want to bail on the UK for freedom.

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– doug1956 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

You made me hurt myself due to my massive eye roll reading your post headline.

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– Dudemanfoo 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Can't a honky just enjoy watchin' somebody stand on the table and piss in their punchbowl without explainin' the joke ;)

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– Based_in_Space [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Gold chain migration en sheeeeet

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– doug1956 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Um, sure.🤪

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– HumanBean1st 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Currently to qualify for an EB-5 visa, applicants must meet the following requirements: Investment: Invest at least $1,050,000 in a U.S. business, or $800,000 in a Targeted Employment Area (TEA) Job creation: Create at least 10 full-time jobs for U.S. workers within two years.

EB-5 visa’s aren't a new thing, Trump just wants to fix them so they at least have some actual merit. I want every illegal deported, every last damned one and retract birth right citizenship for the last 35 years!

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

No, retract it back to the last mass amnesty. And if you are a green card holder who paid to get your Naturalization certificate, you shouldn't be exempt either. And if you ever had ANY public assistance e.g. food stamps, cash assistance or Medicaid you're outta here on the next boat!

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– HumanBean1st 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That would work too, we just want at least 24 -35 million outta here👍🇺🇸.

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Amen!

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– Based_in_Space [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I’d say 80% of legals are also illegal because scammed frauds their way in which is a deportable offense.

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– HumanBean1st 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

And we should also hold accountable those who have “sponsored “ illegals but left taxpayers holding the cost to pay their way. Every church,EVERY entity that gained from America losing needs to have their assets seized for reimbursement.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yes. Invasion was done with taxpayer money thru the NGOs.

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– RC22 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The 35 year thing will never happen. Some of those folks have wives, kids, and homes almost paid off.

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– HumanBean1st 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Okay lets make it 45 years👍

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Sucks to be them, doesn't it? I'm willing to bet that they got to that point by scamming the Welfare system to foot the bill for their food and medical too!

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– RC22 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Their not all bad. We have some Mexican families right here on our street with Trump signs in their front yards. Some of the hardest working and nicest people to know. But these are all people that have been here before the Great Invasion.

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– Field_Guide 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

How do you scam a payment of 5 million? You either have it or you don't.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
  1. Have millions already from scamming USAID program and other US programs.
  2. Use same tax dollars to put up the 5M.
  3. Still have millions from grifting 4, set up fake front “businesses” that “create jobs” in the US.
  4. Apply for business grants from US and state economic development programs.
  5. Grift more
  6. Sponsor others from you country on other visas such as H1B serfs.
  7. All above have anchor babies and then siphon from welfare programs as well.
  8. Become US citizen
  9. Run for Congress in your ethnic enclave district
  10. Get more grifts going to district and co-ethnics and to sponsor more visas to bring in more invaders
  11. Have state change its flag to one resembling home country flag … etc etc.
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– Field_Guide 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Maybe have somebody run it that cares?

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– Based_in_Space [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

And the next administration will keep up the caring? Or run it into the ground like every other system?

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– Field_Guide 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I get it. That's been the history. But, IMO, the dims are done. They can no longer destroy good ideas. At some point, we have to turn a page. It's time for actual competent, much smaller government again.

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– Tynyyn 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

President Trump has a lot of ideas, yet i think this one has a lot of holes in it, like you've described.

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– JoCo 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Um, I dunno. They say that they will be vetted, so no drug lords or such. If they bring in their spouse, that is 10 million? It is definitely thinking outside the box.

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– GodBlessAmerica58 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Typically these types of visa include spouse.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Gold chain migration.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You really think the “vetting” system works?
I have a bridge to sell you.

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– Young_Patriot 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I hate it encourages more wealthy dual citizenship people

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– GodBlessAmerica58 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Very common these days to offer buy-ins, we had one already, but this new one replaces it. 5 M is probably the highest in the world.

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– Bibloop 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

If you have $5million to pay for a gold card, you're not here looking for jobs, lol. You're a millionaire coming to the US to buy more stuff

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– SocratesKnowsNothing 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

if they vet folks and keep them honest over some period of time they pay down debt and likely open businesses employing citizens. I also suspect after the $5M income dries up that our immigration system could be based upon payment from immigrants even if they only pay say $10,000 nonrefundable for some kind of pathway to citizenship. only true refugees should be allowed in free of charge. if someone wants to live here badly enough they will be willing to pay a toll

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– winn 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I don't like it either

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– Martin-Van-Buren 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

There is the potential to have the entire thing pay off our debt. Can you imagine??

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– Tynyyn 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

If it pays off our debt then I want zero taxes for anything. Period! We shouldn't have to pay one di.e in any kind of tax with 50 million millionaires coming here, tariffs being charges and the federal government dwindling down to nothing. ZERO TAX BILL!

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– Martin-Van-Buren 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I could not agree more.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

A huge portion of our debt has been in support of a 100 year commie long march insurrection.

All debts in aid of insurrection are null and void. 14th amendment Section 4.

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– Revodude 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Different path than EB-5. The $5M goes to the government to pay down debt. And they will be closely vetted. EB-5s were often used to buy a Chinese restaurant for a million, meet the time requirement and then sell it to the next Chinese person. Just one example.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

“Closely vetted” Haha the vetting system is a joke.

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– MisprisionIsEvil 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It is now. But not forever.

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– Framus 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The timing of the announcement sure sucks. We elected Trump to get foreigners to go the other way...out.

Maybe when the invaders are gone this would be received better by those of us that don't have the millions to buy our way into a country.

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– Based_in_Space [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Yeah a lot of MAGAs are not having it just like the H1B issue. Many want them deported too as 90% scammed their way in.

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– wasupwitdis 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I would think if they are willing to put up 5 mill for a gold card why not. Last i heard there were 250000 people in line for this. 🤑🤑

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– Privatemoonlander69 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Many countries do it, we have a lesser and abused version. If someone has the money, and is strictly vetted, why turn it down

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