I will never use or spend silver/gold on something fictitious.
Unless I can get a value like an apple for part of my value it has no value. Not sure I can eat an electronic pulse.
Maybe chip a slice of the HD and use for trade and see how that will work out.
I been supporting DJT from day one, did the Q thing from day one. One thing I learned is he will say one thing while meaning something totally different. I will apply the wait and see rule on this.
Any monetary system is not for the good of people however I do understand why it is needed. Trade&Barder is true way.
All currency is fictitious and not backed by anything real.
You are right that the ultimate goal probably is to shatter the financial system entirely, including crypto, and return the America/the World to a barter system- or, better a systemof entirely self sufficient, autonomous, homesteads with minimal trade or communication between them. That would certainly be a better world.
But what we have to accept is that selling the gold reserve for Bitcoin is a step along a path to a much better future. Have faith in Trump.
I disagree, I don't think "... what we have to accept is that selling the gold reserve for Bitcoin is a step along a path to a much better future."
How can changing something real and tangible for something purely imaginary be a good move? It is like the voting machines all over again but with money this time rather than votes.
OK, hacking a blockchain system might be difficult but if it might give you all the money in the world might you not try very hard? Then we need to factor in things like quantum computing that will make all your current passwords hackable. What then?
Trump supports this. We either accept that he is right, and realise that while we can't always know the reasons for His actions, but we are required to have faith.
Either that, or believe he is a liar, or that we know better, or are just being defiant for defiance sake. Those are the only options
Might he be listening to any advisers who are thinking more of themselves than anything else?
That is the problem with acts of faith. If the reasoning behind the decision were clearly explained somewhere then we could see for ourselves just how good the choice is.
Trump knows that bitcoin is the money of the future. I think he is going to somehow couple it with stable coins (which are not bitcoin) backed by 100% BTC reserve requirements to make a hybrid monetary system in which the USD becomes the world's currency.
Because of its ties to bitcoin, the USD will no longer be controlled by the US, but will become a global pricing mechanism, a' la John Nash's "Asymptotically Ideal Money." This is all good for the US, but it comes at the expense of the dream bitcoin holds for lifting the world's unbanked, and freeing us all from the tyranny of the bankers. What I am seeing brings some freedom, but not total freedom. Hopefully that will change as things become more clear.
Ideally? There won't be any grocery stores; we'll return (first) to a market economy, where home produced goods are exchanged. In the long run, as I say, I'd rather the whole world became a series of entirely self-sufficient family run farmsteads, living entirely on what they produce. There wouldn't even need to be barter in that situation
Dollars are just as fictious. Only 3% of USD in existence (not counting the so-called EuroDollars that European Banks print) is physical. The other 97% is on a SQL ledger maintained by the Treasury.
Bitcoin has always been a part of this. See the GamesOfTrump NFT with 1717 tokens launched on the Bitcoin blockchain a few months before Q started posting. Digital currency in and of itself isn't bad. CBDCs that the government can use to track and control you are bad. The way it appears Bitcoin is going to be used is as reserves providing backing to the USD. So USD, including paper cash, will become a layer 2 asset on top of Bitcoin. If you reject Bitcoin, you reject the Q plan as well.
I guess some of us are rejecting the q plan. Bitcoin, and other digital currencies are no better than a cbdc IMO. Digital transactions traceable through exchanges, wallets, and IP addresses have no anonymity and full counterparty risk with internet portals, palantir, government spy tech wizardry, or hacking. I know someone personally who had 800k in bitcoin stolen. Police and FBI were like, "shrug", nothing we can do. Trump's EO on bitcoin codifies the government's ability to confiscate it. It's video game money used for gambling and has no place in a sound monetary system.
Converting gold to crypto lives in the same universe as the USA joining the commonwealth. Pure retardation. I think we've reached max trolling at a nation state level. Now if there was a US mint crypto that was metal backed 1:1 convertible for transactional purposes, that's a whole different ballgame. Banks gobbling up the shiny like madmen while pumping out the crypto line on the newswires for the dupes, it's hilarious.
I dont like the idea at all. If we have gold, we have something that isnohysical and we as a nation control it and its value. If we buy bitcoin with it. Our comodity is gone and the possible security is gone and we are one step closer to a one world currency. I dont care aboit value. As a nation we will be weakened by this move and be introducing a world standard currency of bitcoin.
What if the Trump admin has Say, a million times MORE gold than claimed and ties the price of bitcoin to gold so it is no longer an electronic fiat but gold backed?
I think they want to re value our current gold holdings which are valued at around $75 an oz with the FED. Obviously gold is worth more than that now days, $3050. It is my understanding after fairly valuing our gold holding we will end up with a BIG surplus of Fiat currency. That would be used to purchase bitcoin.
It’s not an exchange but a correction and investment with the realized returns.
It’s not going to be sold it’s going to be revalued. The fed is giving us $75 on the oz. It is worth $3k now. If the gold is revalued the FED would owe us fiat, about $2975 per an oz. Meaning they would owe us allot of money. That money would be used to buy bitcoin. There is no exchange of or handing over of the gold. It’s still ours. The fed has just been fucking us and past president have been allowing it.
I don't personally think this is coming from Trump himself. Anons know the importance of Gold (precious metals) in this fight:
Read closely...even the link provided by Qu/#q3393
I still believe we are going back to the Gold Standard in some way, but with more commodities added to it. This may be some type of deflection away from PMs? I don't know, but I don't see Trump abandoning Gold either, knowing it was a part of Q's plan.
I mean i support and follow him for now. I like everything he's doing for now. I dont trust elon. I dont like AI. Crypto makes me nervous, even though I own thousands of dollars worth of it. I'm just careful that's all.
I think (maybe hope) this is a bluff of sorts. Not that I have a sound hypothesis of how it might work. But something is telling me this is to flush something out of the works. Maybe it is a threat to the current system and that is what is needed to set some things in motion to expose or expend more deep state ammo. I eat crayons for breakfast though and am mildly regarded.
Even though I have converted half my gold holdings to bitcoin, I'm not necessarily in favor of using the nation's gold to do the same. Still, as bitcoin is the most sound money ever invented, it does make sense. If nothing else, it signals to other nations that bitcoin is important, and they should be working on their own stockpile.
And before anyone objects, let me just say that bitcoin is not "crypto." It does use cryptography, but it is universally scarce, unlike gold, with it's rules enforced by a distributed consensus, unlike alt-coins and CBDCs.
We freely think that Trump is right about everything. If he wasn't, it's just misdirection. Its an act of FAITH, which is why the Left can't understand
Stop and think. Any electronic kind of funds are pure evil. Only people dabbling in this are blinded or greedy or both.
Yeah, no. Trump is completely committed to this project. It is fiat currency which is for the blind and greedy:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/establishment-of-the-strategic-bitcoin-reserve-and-united-states-digital-asset-stockpile/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkDvKQxuP9E
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/23/binance-ceo-says-trump-has-been-fantastic-for-cryptocurrency.html
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-vows-make-us-undisputed-bitcoin-superpower-crypto-capital-world
https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2025/03/20/leak-fuels-wild-speculation-of-a-big-trump-crypto-update-as-bitcoin-price-suddenly-surges/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-cryptocurrency-strategic-reserve-includes-xrp-sol-ada-2025-03-02/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2025/03/22/white-house-reveals-how-trump-could-buy-more-bitcoin-priming-a-price-earthquake/
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/official-trump
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/melania-meme/
It seems to me there are only three ways you can be anti-Crypto:
They think Trump is a liar
They think they know better than Trump
They are persecuting Trump by disagreeing with Him for no reason
Since I am none of those, I support crypto. Where do you stand?
I will never use or spend silver/gold on something fictitious.
Unless I can get a value like an apple for part of my value it has no value. Not sure I can eat an electronic pulse.
Maybe chip a slice of the HD and use for trade and see how that will work out.
I been supporting DJT from day one, did the Q thing from day one. One thing I learned is he will say one thing while meaning something totally different. I will apply the wait and see rule on this.
Any monetary system is not for the good of people however I do understand why it is needed. Trade&Barder is true way.
All currency is fictitious and not backed by anything real.
You are right that the ultimate goal probably is to shatter the financial system entirely, including crypto, and return the America/the World to a barter system- or, better a systemof entirely self sufficient, autonomous, homesteads with minimal trade or communication between them. That would certainly be a better world.
But what we have to accept is that selling the gold reserve for Bitcoin is a step along a path to a much better future. Have faith in Trump.
I disagree, I don't think "... what we have to accept is that selling the gold reserve for Bitcoin is a step along a path to a much better future."
How can changing something real and tangible for something purely imaginary be a good move? It is like the voting machines all over again but with money this time rather than votes.
OK, hacking a blockchain system might be difficult but if it might give you all the money in the world might you not try very hard? Then we need to factor in things like quantum computing that will make all your current passwords hackable. What then?
It comes back to the same question though:
Trump supports this. We either accept that he is right, and realise that while we can't always know the reasons for His actions, but we are required to have faith.
Either that, or believe he is a liar, or that we know better, or are just being defiant for defiance sake. Those are the only options
I wouldn't altogether rule out "knowing better!"
That is the problem with acts of faith. If the reasoning behind the decision were clearly explained somewhere then we could see for ourselves just how good the choice is.
Trump knows that bitcoin is the money of the future. I think he is going to somehow couple it with stable coins (which are not bitcoin) backed by 100% BTC reserve requirements to make a hybrid monetary system in which the USD becomes the world's currency.
Because of its ties to bitcoin, the USD will no longer be controlled by the US, but will become a global pricing mechanism, a' la John Nash's "Asymptotically Ideal Money." This is all good for the US, but it comes at the expense of the dream bitcoin holds for lifting the world's unbanked, and freeing us all from the tyranny of the bankers. What I am seeing brings some freedom, but not total freedom. Hopefully that will change as things become more clear.
Barter? Really? At the grocery store? How does that work?
Ideally? There won't be any grocery stores; we'll return (first) to a market economy, where home produced goods are exchanged. In the long run, as I say, I'd rather the whole world became a series of entirely self-sufficient family run farmsteads, living entirely on what they produce. There wouldn't even need to be barter in that situation
Dollars are just as fictious. Only 3% of USD in existence (not counting the so-called EuroDollars that European Banks print) is physical. The other 97% is on a SQL ledger maintained by the Treasury.
Trump coin will be bigger than Bitcoin.
Completely agreed; and I'm also a little disappointed we're not cutting to the chase and spending it all on TrumpCoin.
But it may be that the BitCoin will be used to buy TrumpCoin? The profits He makes could be used to fund Nesara Gesara.
After the USD1 announcement today I’ll say Trump coin will be the binance coin of the Trump cryptocurrency platform.
Bitcoin has always been a part of this. See the GamesOfTrump NFT with 1717 tokens launched on the Bitcoin blockchain a few months before Q started posting. Digital currency in and of itself isn't bad. CBDCs that the government can use to track and control you are bad. The way it appears Bitcoin is going to be used is as reserves providing backing to the USD. So USD, including paper cash, will become a layer 2 asset on top of Bitcoin. If you reject Bitcoin, you reject the Q plan as well.
I guess some of us are rejecting the q plan. Bitcoin, and other digital currencies are no better than a cbdc IMO. Digital transactions traceable through exchanges, wallets, and IP addresses have no anonymity and full counterparty risk with internet portals, palantir, government spy tech wizardry, or hacking. I know someone personally who had 800k in bitcoin stolen. Police and FBI were like, "shrug", nothing we can do. Trump's EO on bitcoin codifies the government's ability to confiscate it. It's video game money used for gambling and has no place in a sound monetary system.
I do not like this at all.
This was always key to Trump's financial policies. I accept that it is hard to understand at times, but I am for it because He is.
First generation crypto with all the flaws, I'll stick with the ISO tokens. I prefer silver, cheap enough to be able to Barder with.
Converting gold to crypto lives in the same universe as the USA joining the commonwealth. Pure retardation. I think we've reached max trolling at a nation state level. Now if there was a US mint crypto that was metal backed 1:1 convertible for transactional purposes, that's a whole different ballgame. Banks gobbling up the shiny like madmen while pumping out the crypto line on the newswires for the dupes, it's hilarious.
I would be stoked for a 1:1 metal backed crypto.
I would go for that ----- trading gold (or other commodity of value) receipts, like real money was designed to be.
This IOU system is bullshit.
I dont like the idea at all. If we have gold, we have something that isnohysical and we as a nation control it and its value. If we buy bitcoin with it. Our comodity is gone and the possible security is gone and we are one step closer to a one world currency. I dont care aboit value. As a nation we will be weakened by this move and be introducing a world standard currency of bitcoin.
What if the Trump admin has Say, a million times MORE gold than claimed and ties the price of bitcoin to gold so it is no longer an electronic fiat but gold backed?
All the more reason to switch; and, ideally, switch again to TrumpCoin in the future
Obviously Reddit is already freaking out LMAO
I think they want to re value our current gold holdings which are valued at around $75 an oz with the FED. Obviously gold is worth more than that now days, $3050. It is my understanding after fairly valuing our gold holding we will end up with a BIG surplus of Fiat currency. That would be used to purchase bitcoin.
It’s not an exchange but a correction and investment with the realized returns.
Possible, though of course we can't rule out the possibility that it's just a smoke screen to prove that most of the gold was stolen
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2025/02/24/trump-says-hes-going-to-check-if-somebody-stole-fort-knox-400-billion-gold-supply-what-we-know/
You must not know about the gold that’s been flowing back. It’s not a possibility, it’s what the bill is suggesting we do.
I know we've recaptured a lot from the Vatican, so I assumed that was what was to be sold.
It’s not going to be sold it’s going to be revalued. The fed is giving us $75 on the oz. It is worth $3k now. If the gold is revalued the FED would owe us fiat, about $2975 per an oz. Meaning they would owe us allot of money. That money would be used to buy bitcoin. There is no exchange of or handing over of the gold. It’s still ours. The fed has just been fucking us and past president have been allowing it.
Maybe, but I think we'll be getting rid of it
TrumpCoin is just better
It’s $42.22 per ounce.
Thank you!
I don't personally think this is coming from Trump himself. Anons know the importance of Gold (precious metals) in this fight:
Read closely...even the link provided by Q u/#q3393
I still believe we are going back to the Gold Standard in some way, but with more commodities added to it. This may be some type of deflection away from PMs? I don't know, but I don't see Trump abandoning Gold either, knowing it was a part of Q's plan.
Digital currency is bad and AI is bad. Both being pushed.
Hard disagree. Trump support Crypto and Musk supports AI.
Do you think they're lying that they are good? Or do you think you know better?
I really don't trust anything anymore to be honest. I think both of those can be used to enslave us Biblically.
Earthly obediance to Trump is freedom
I mean i support and follow him for now. I like everything he's doing for now. I dont trust elon. I dont like AI. Crypto makes me nervous, even though I own thousands of dollars worth of it. I'm just careful that's all.
I think (maybe hope) this is a bluff of sorts. Not that I have a sound hypothesis of how it might work. But something is telling me this is to flush something out of the works. Maybe it is a threat to the current system and that is what is needed to set some things in motion to expose or expend more deep state ammo. I eat crayons for breakfast though and am mildly regarded.
I suspect it is part of a plan to destroy the financial system completely and return us to a barter/self-sufficient economy
Screw all this. I'm planting food crops and avoiding all this bullshit as much as I can.
Maybe it's intended to force us to do that? It is possible that Crypto is intended to fail, by Trump, to force us into self sufficiency
Even though I have converted half my gold holdings to bitcoin, I'm not necessarily in favor of using the nation's gold to do the same. Still, as bitcoin is the most sound money ever invented, it does make sense. If nothing else, it signals to other nations that bitcoin is important, and they should be working on their own stockpile.
And before anyone objects, let me just say that bitcoin is not "crypto." It does use cryptography, but it is universally scarce, unlike gold, with it's rules enforced by a distributed consensus, unlike alt-coins and CBDCs.
All the more reason to manipulated it towards Nesara-Gesara
Besides- Trump supports this, so we have to support Him.
Blindly? No. But we do have to support, regardless of our own views
We freely think that Trump is right about everything. If he wasn't, it's just misdirection. Its an act of FAITH, which is why the Left can't understand