I got a 1-day ban in this thread for posting the following comment, which was apparently deleted:
The 1st Amendment of the Constitution protects hate speech as free speech. Any excuse to censor speech that someone doesn't like is un-American. I get that this is a private board that can make its own rules however, if you're going to sell America First, you need to live it, regardless of how uncomfortable it may make you.
I do not have to agree with hate speech to defend it.
The ban comment included:
24 hour vacation to contemplate and gain an understanding of the fact that you do not have total unfiltered free speech on The Great Awakening.
and
Follow our lead, or find somewhere else to voice your unfiltered opinions.
This is the response to it that got bob_a_bouy banned:
–bob_a_bouy 2 points 9 days ago +2 / -0
comment deleted.
The 1st Amendment of the Constitution protects hate speech as free speech. Any excuse to censor speech that someone doesn't like is un-American. I get that this is a private board that can make its own rules however, if you're going to sell America First, you need to live it, regardless of how uncomfortable it may make you.
I do not have to agree with hate speech to defend it.
I think its a stretch to assert that GAW is not pro-America First unless it has unfiltered 'free speech' on any topic. Not only is this a private board, it also has a specific purpose, and that needs to be upheld. The purpose is not "allow everyone and anyone to write and post whatever they want".
Also, I consider the entire concept of 'hate speech' to be a (rather satanic) Marxist creation, and reject it out of hand. It's a destructive concept. The implication is that 'hating something' is an of itself criminal, and therefor speech that expresses that sentiment or "even criminal act of hating something" is wrong or criminal.
Looking at the thread in question, in no place did the OP mod use the term or concept of 'hate speech', so you are kind of ignoring the original post and distorting it into something it isn't.
The idea was that the advocating of racism isn't GAW content. Personally, I agree with that.
It's not about free speech. It's about the purpose of the board.
I mean, I find the whole "racism is criminal" concept, in the form of 'hate speech, discrimination' etc rather abhorrent. It is marxism 101, as in: create a sense of victim-hood in order to mobilize and manipulate resentment and destructive emotions to achieve the <false> agenda.
I also find racism itself to be unfortunate and undesirable, but something that can be overcome.
I think it is perfectly fine for the board to outline that advocating (i.e. practicing) racism is off-topic (i.e. outside the objectives of the board). It's not Unamerican, imo.
hey, you asked for thoughts!
There is a great deal of confusion in the world (injected by satanic / evil forces) to confuse the issues of 'free speech' and 'purpose'. A person's (or groups) right to free speech can not supersede or supplant the right of another person (or group) to define the parameters of acceptable behavior in a private setting where the other person is the rightful sovereign.
Failure (or refusal) to recognize the legitimate sovereignty of others is fundamental to evil, but evil is also great at disguising itself.
I guess someone disagrees, in the form of a downvoat.
Hatred is an emotion-driven action. All emotions are originally gifted to us by the Creator, but evil took many and twisted them.
I don't know whether I would call the 'hate speech' deployment anti-biblical. But it's certain diabolical. So I guess, yeah.
Mod grieving? I guess so. Our dauntless u/bob_a_bouy kind of just straight up said: "you mods running the board aren't actually practicing American First" (paraphrased)
I mean, he's entitled to his buoyant opinion, but yeah, it's a swipe.
I notice, also, that he got a one day ban. A slap on the wrist.
I once had a 3-day ban. After I got over my sense of outrage (and entitlement), I found it to be a very beneficial experience. Got an important concept into my head.
I want to encourage bobbybouy to hand around and see what sort of a contribution he can make. You might not agree with the view the mod expressed, but maybe there was a lesson there, too.
Not mine. I’ve been downdooted here just for giving blessings. Good old shills.
“Hatred is an emotion-driven action.”
If I may posit something for your consideration…
NOTE: It’s morning. I looked right past the word “action” even while pasting it, and focused on “emotion”, which this is still a good point toward, it just might not have been what you were saying. I bothered to write this though, so I’m posting it for anyone who might need to read it anyway!
Far be it from me to lean on a possible cabal-managed Christian pop-rap group (not that they’re under control, necessarily, but the labels tend to be under the umbrella) for theology, but I’ve always liked this song because they’re right, and this one small note upends the use of the word “love” in virtually every other song that uses it.
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 - 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up. 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Charity (“love”) suffereth (verb), envieth not (verb) is kind (verb) is not puffed (verb) does not behave (verb) isn’t provoked (verb) thinks no evil (verb) verb verb verb.
Hatred being the partner of love, also must be a verb (the “opposite” of love being “apathy”, not hatred. Absence of pathos). Hatred then, is simply not mixing with or repulsing from. It does not inherently require anger, violence, disdain. There are most certainly unjustifiable ways of hating things (“he who hates his brother is a liar”), but there also seem to be commanded ones (e.g. “hate sin”).
The word “faith” (“ĕmûnâ“) also refers to action. I prefer to say “obedient action” than “faith” these days, and “unmerited favor” rather than “grace”, among other nonsense words that translators have used for some reason. Point being, it may be more accurate to see these things as action-based, not emotion-based. It really changes perspective on things.
Long story short, whether that argument is fully or partially right, it is still true that if “speaking hate” is bad or forbidden, then it is impossible to speak out against sin, and to advocate “repenting”, or “turning away from” it, which is where the “antibiblical” comment came from.
If you missed the post on Islam yesterday btw, it was great for illustrating the opposite issues with being “justified by action”, rather than “justified by unmerited favor, through obedient action, lest any man should boast”.
Looking at the thread in question, in no place did the OP mod use the term or concept of 'hate speech', so you are kind of ignoring the original post and distorting it into something it isn't.
The whole premise of the post was racism along with biggoted and racist generalizations. Racism is hate speech. Though I appreciate you taking the time to comment, your inability to grasp that concept and why my response applied to it makes it hard for me to take anything else from your input seriously. I do appreciate you taking the time though.
I do not subscribe to the concept "hate speech". I consider it an invalid concept from the get-go.
your inability to grasp that concept
Wonderful rhetorical battle skills. Did they take many years to develop?
One man's inability is another man's myopia.
makes it hard for me to take anything else from your input
Dayum. Them rhetorical battle skills.
Thank goodness that I have zero investment in your considering or being persuaded by anything I write. And thank goodness that I decided to shelve rhetorical battleworks many years ago. But nice try.
Enjoy your time here. I expect this community sees you for what you are.
Does being a troll really feed that void you feel? Or is it just a stop-gap delaying tactic against the inevitable?
But since you made the effort, allow me.
Your very obvious attempts to stir, agitate, provoke negative emotional reactions make it hard for me to take anything from you seriously. Actually, to consider anything from you to be of any value to me or the board.
Brother, you're denying reality. I don't know what to tell you. If you think me pointing out obvious reality is trolling, I don't know what to tell you. Racism is hate speech. Hate speech is free speech. Censoring free speech is un-American. There's nothing you can say that changed that. You can try to word-salad around facts all you want. Facts never change. Feelings do, as you've demonstrated. As I originally stated, I don't have to agree with hate speech to defend it.
Here's another fact: Most people aren't aware of their own cognitive dissonance.
As other commenters have said, the board is not a public institution and has a purpose.
Any as we have seen countless times - any unfiltered board, or company, or platform - if it is remotely free speech focused - gets rapidly infiltrated by bad actors spamming racism and death threats etc - and somehow 'the left' instantly 'finds' those posts and uses them as weapons to call for shutting down the board/platform for BS hate speech rules. And it takes a lot of expensive lawyers probably to have a chance to fight that crap off. Which is how they left shuts down anyone that disagrees with them.
These boards are watched. And every board and platform gets infiltrated. No one if a fan of mods censoring - but the reality is there are lines that can and would get this site shut down- or at the very least smeared as some 'hate site' and then people looking for answers avoid the site as 'just another racist site'. Then we all lose access to it, or turns away new people. And bad actors are constantly trying to post garbage that will get screen captured and do exactly that. It doesnt matter if someone is an honest, angry patriot - or a deep state shill - if something is inflammatory enough to cause trouble for the board....
There are topics that have to be spoken of....lightly. Its not fair - but we are at war. And war is not fair.
Personally, I think it is axiomatic that freedom requires discipline. Absolute free speech (where all and every thing is tolerated) leads to tyranny and loss of freedom.
I consider the parameters that the mods enforce here to be productive and necessary disciplines that keep us free. To discuss Q related things, to engage with each other in mutual solidarity, and for visitors to find and acquire new (and ideally) useful information.
Without restrictions on muh free speech, every other thread would be how Hitler did nothing wrong.
Every other post would be delving into the merits of flat earth.
It'd be a clusterfuck of DARPA AI bots attempting to consensus crack the shit out of this forum, tainting everyone as Nazi or lunatics by association.
If you go to a knitting forum, there should be zero expectation that you can post about drag racing. If you insisted because of muh free speech, you'd start by getting a warning. If you continued, eventually you would get banned.
Not because people are censoring muh free speech, but because you're an asshole that is posting off-topic.
Trump hatred, Q hatred, Jew hatred, conspiracy theories, these are all off-topic for GAW. Ironically, it's because of this moderation that those who cry loudest about muh free speech want to be here anyways. Otherwise, the Jew haters would be at stormfront.org and the flat earthers would have their own dedicated forum. For whatever reason, these groups of people (or bots) insist on proselytizing and they can't do that at forums dedicated to their cause.
God wants his people (us) to be "free to worship freely". That is one of the main reasons He freed His people from Pharoh in the book of Exodus
So, if we are to be free to worship freely, we must have freedom of speech and the right to congrisegate. Our forefathers knew this well, and that is why it is the first amendment.
Alright, who can explain why Batman bitch-slapped Robin in the first place? They’re the dynamic duo for Chrissakes! Bros, even. Did Robin put too much starch in the Caped Crusader’s man thong? Did young ward Dick Grayson tell the Dark Knight he wanted a kitten? I’m serious here man. What set off Batman! Batman! Batman??!?!?!
An Anon here tried to bait me into engaging in some hate speech against a certain people recently. I called the baiting out and didn't take the bait. There are people here that are not not good people... Comment with care.
Major kek.
u/#howl
When you respond with the GIF of this cute howling puppy, I consider it a badge of honor.
"I consider it a badge of honor."
...tis...
...howl on Patriot...
I got a 1-day ban in this thread for posting the following comment, which was apparently deleted:
The ban comment included:
and
Thoughts?
I’ve been banned 7 times, the longest for 3 days. I only agreed with one of them.
I'm hijacking this top comment so that we can put this issue into its proper context.
This is the post that started it:
https://greatawakening.win/p/19Ae8WEPkT/jfk-files-housekeeping-hammers-o/
This is the response to it that got bob_a_bouy banned:
–bob_a_bouy 2 points 9 days ago +2 / -0
comment deleted. The 1st Amendment of the Constitution protects hate speech as free speech. Any excuse to censor speech that someone doesn't like is un-American. I get that this is a private board that can make its own rules however, if you're going to sell America First, you need to live it, regardless of how uncomfortable it may make you.
I do not have to agree with hate speech to defend it.
I believe that hate speech should be allowed so we can identify who the true haters are.
Hmmm....
Devil's avocado.
I think its a stretch to assert that GAW is not pro-America First unless it has unfiltered 'free speech' on any topic. Not only is this a private board, it also has a specific purpose, and that needs to be upheld. The purpose is not "allow everyone and anyone to write and post whatever they want".
Also, I consider the entire concept of 'hate speech' to be a (rather satanic) Marxist creation, and reject it out of hand. It's a destructive concept. The implication is that 'hating something' is an of itself criminal, and therefor speech that expresses that sentiment or "even criminal act of hating something" is wrong or criminal.
Looking at the thread in question, in no place did the OP mod use the term or concept of 'hate speech', so you are kind of ignoring the original post and distorting it into something it isn't.
The idea was that the advocating of racism isn't GAW content. Personally, I agree with that.
It's not about free speech. It's about the purpose of the board.
I mean, I find the whole "racism is criminal" concept, in the form of 'hate speech, discrimination' etc rather abhorrent. It is marxism 101, as in: create a sense of victim-hood in order to mobilize and manipulate resentment and destructive emotions to achieve the <false> agenda.
I also find racism itself to be unfortunate and undesirable, but something that can be overcome.
I think it is perfectly fine for the board to outline that advocating (i.e. practicing) racism is off-topic (i.e. outside the objectives of the board). It's not Unamerican, imo.
hey, you asked for thoughts!
There is a great deal of confusion in the world (injected by satanic / evil forces) to confuse the issues of 'free speech' and 'purpose'. A person's (or groups) right to free speech can not supersede or supplant the right of another person (or group) to define the parameters of acceptable behavior in a private setting where the other person is the rightful sovereign.
Failure (or refusal) to recognize the legitimate sovereignty of others is fundamental to evil, but evil is also great at disguising itself.
That's extra thoughts for an added bonus.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts.
Psalm 97:10 ESV - O you who love the Lord, hate evil! He preserves the lives of his saints; he delivers them from the hand of the wicked.
Romans 12:9 ESV - Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good.
Proverbs 8:13 ESV - The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.
“Hate speech” pushes the idea that nothing can be, or should be, hated, and is antibiblical. Agreed with all your comment.
The banned comment looks to have been for mod griefing, which is a reliable ban when noticed.
I guess someone disagrees, in the form of a downvoat.
Hatred is an emotion-driven action. All emotions are originally gifted to us by the Creator, but evil took many and twisted them.
I don't know whether I would call the 'hate speech' deployment anti-biblical. But it's certain diabolical. So I guess, yeah.
Mod grieving? I guess so. Our dauntless u/bob_a_bouy kind of just straight up said: "you mods running the board aren't actually practicing American First" (paraphrased)
I mean, he's entitled to his buoyant opinion, but yeah, it's a swipe.
I notice, also, that he got a one day ban. A slap on the wrist.
I once had a 3-day ban. After I got over my sense of outrage (and entitlement), I found it to be a very beneficial experience. Got an important concept into my head.
I want to encourage bobbybouy to hand around and see what sort of a contribution he can make. You might not agree with the view the mod expressed, but maybe there was a lesson there, too.
Not mine. I’ve been downdooted here just for giving blessings. Good old shills.
“Hatred is an emotion-driven action.”
If I may posit something for your consideration…
NOTE: It’s morning. I looked right past the word “action” even while pasting it, and focused on “emotion”, which this is still a good point toward, it just might not have been what you were saying. I bothered to write this though, so I’m posting it for anyone who might need to read it anyway!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WRfFuhrdGKM
Far be it from me to lean on a possible cabal-managed Christian pop-rap group (not that they’re under control, necessarily, but the labels tend to be under the umbrella) for theology, but I’ve always liked this song because they’re right, and this one small note upends the use of the word “love” in virtually every other song that uses it.
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 - 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up. 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Charity (“love”) suffereth (verb), envieth not (verb) is kind (verb) is not puffed (verb) does not behave (verb) isn’t provoked (verb) thinks no evil (verb) verb verb verb.
Hatred being the partner of love, also must be a verb (the “opposite” of love being “apathy”, not hatred. Absence of pathos). Hatred then, is simply not mixing with or repulsing from. It does not inherently require anger, violence, disdain. There are most certainly unjustifiable ways of hating things (“he who hates his brother is a liar”), but there also seem to be commanded ones (e.g. “hate sin”).
The word “faith” (“ĕmûnâ“) also refers to action. I prefer to say “obedient action” than “faith” these days, and “unmerited favor” rather than “grace”, among other nonsense words that translators have used for some reason. Point being, it may be more accurate to see these things as action-based, not emotion-based. It really changes perspective on things.
Long story short, whether that argument is fully or partially right, it is still true that if “speaking hate” is bad or forbidden, then it is impossible to speak out against sin, and to advocate “repenting”, or “turning away from” it, which is where the “antibiblical” comment came from.
If you missed the post on Islam yesterday btw, it was great for illustrating the opposite issues with being “justified by action”, rather than “justified by unmerited favor, through obedient action, lest any man should boast”.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19AwodbjKY/imtiaz-mahmood-let-me-tell-you-w/c/
Stealing this for future use🤣😂😹🥑🥑🥑🥑🥑
"One cannot steal that which is freely given" ~ random internet dude
The whole premise of the post was racism along with biggoted and racist generalizations. Racism is hate speech. Though I appreciate you taking the time to comment, your inability to grasp that concept and why my response applied to it makes it hard for me to take anything else from your input seriously. I do appreciate you taking the time though.
I do not subscribe to the concept "hate speech". I consider it an invalid concept from the get-go.
Wonderful rhetorical battle skills. Did they take many years to develop?
One man's inability is another man's myopia.
Dayum. Them rhetorical battle skills.
Thank goodness that I have zero investment in your considering or being persuaded by anything I write. And thank goodness that I decided to shelve rhetorical battleworks many years ago. But nice try.
Enjoy your time here. I expect this community sees you for what you are.
You should have learned by now that facts don't care about your feelings.
Does being a troll really feed that void you feel? Or is it just a stop-gap delaying tactic against the inevitable?
But since you made the effort, allow me.
Your very obvious attempts to stir, agitate, provoke negative emotional reactions make it hard for me to take anything from you seriously. Actually, to consider anything from you to be of any value to me or the board.
But nice try.
Brother, you're denying reality. I don't know what to tell you. If you think me pointing out obvious reality is trolling, I don't know what to tell you. Racism is hate speech. Hate speech is free speech. Censoring free speech is un-American. There's nothing you can say that changed that. You can try to word-salad around facts all you want. Facts never change. Feelings do, as you've demonstrated. As I originally stated, I don't have to agree with hate speech to defend it.
Here's another fact: Most people aren't aware of their own cognitive dissonance.
Have a blessed day.
The ban comment sounds like total kiked faggotry to me.
As other commenters have said, the board is not a public institution and has a purpose.
Any as we have seen countless times - any unfiltered board, or company, or platform - if it is remotely free speech focused - gets rapidly infiltrated by bad actors spamming racism and death threats etc - and somehow 'the left' instantly 'finds' those posts and uses them as weapons to call for shutting down the board/platform for BS hate speech rules. And it takes a lot of expensive lawyers probably to have a chance to fight that crap off. Which is how they left shuts down anyone that disagrees with them.
These boards are watched. And every board and platform gets infiltrated. No one if a fan of mods censoring - but the reality is there are lines that can and would get this site shut down- or at the very least smeared as some 'hate site' and then people looking for answers avoid the site as 'just another racist site'. Then we all lose access to it, or turns away new people. And bad actors are constantly trying to post garbage that will get screen captured and do exactly that. It doesnt matter if someone is an honest, angry patriot - or a deep state shill - if something is inflammatory enough to cause trouble for the board....
There are topics that have to be spoken of....lightly. Its not fair - but we are at war. And war is not fair.
Personally, I think it is axiomatic that freedom requires discipline. Absolute free speech (where all and every thing is tolerated) leads to tyranny and loss of freedom.
I consider the parameters that the mods enforce here to be productive and necessary disciplines that keep us free. To discuss Q related things, to engage with each other in mutual solidarity, and for visitors to find and acquire new (and ideally) useful information.
Or in other words, what you said.
Without restrictions on muh free speech, every other thread would be how Hitler did nothing wrong.
Every other post would be delving into the merits of flat earth.
It'd be a clusterfuck of DARPA AI bots attempting to consensus crack the shit out of this forum, tainting everyone as Nazi or lunatics by association.
If you go to a knitting forum, there should be zero expectation that you can post about drag racing. If you insisted because of muh free speech, you'd start by getting a warning. If you continued, eventually you would get banned.
Not because people are censoring muh free speech, but because you're an asshole that is posting off-topic.
Trump hatred, Q hatred, Jew hatred, conspiracy theories, these are all off-topic for GAW. Ironically, it's because of this moderation that those who cry loudest about muh free speech want to be here anyways. Otherwise, the Jew haters would be at stormfront.org and the flat earthers would have their own dedicated forum. For whatever reason, these groups of people (or bots) insist on proselytizing and they can't do that at forums dedicated to their cause.
The downvotes have spoken. Looks like your comment constitutes hate speech.
/ soz. I jest. either way, I think your argument is spot on.
DARPA AI bots also downvote and brigade.
https://imgur.com/a/XfkJWrA
Hypocrisy works both ways. Love it. Thanks for calling it out!
Amen
God wants his people (us) to be "free to worship freely". That is one of the main reasons He freed His people from Pharoh in the book of Exodus So, if we are to be free to worship freely, we must have freedom of speech and the right to congrisegate. Our forefathers knew this well, and that is why it is the first amendment.
Well, let's go!!
You have a good grasp of the meaning of "free speech", BerlinWallCrosser.
Alright, who can explain why Batman bitch-slapped Robin in the first place? They’re the dynamic duo for Chrissakes! Bros, even. Did Robin put too much starch in the Caped Crusader’s man thong? Did young ward Dick Grayson tell the Dark Knight he wanted a kitten? I’m serious here man. What set off Batman! Batman! Batman??!?!?!
batman is a furry. in tights. wearing a mask. lol
An Anon here tried to bait me into engaging in some hate speech against a certain people recently. I called the baiting out and didn't take the bait. There are people here that are not not good people... Comment with care.
good looking out.