They broke our laws by entering, so they must leave. Period! They have NO LEGAL STATUS HERE!
Our due process rights are for citizens, not aliens. Aliens are human beings and should be treated as such, but we have NO responsibility to care for every person who managed to get across our border. Other nations do not tolerate that.
Honest question, not trolling, looking for a real answer because I'm far away from all this: how do they prove someone is an illegal alien and not some Latino citizen who lost his wallet?
I believe there are some agencies doing the leg work and cross referencing information with the irs, social security and some other ways to find people who came in during the 4-year invasion allowed by our previous administration.
It's incompatible with our Constitution. We have freedom of religion but do we tolerate intolerance? Basically, no. Those who choose to be intolerant are better off living where intolerance is tolerated.
"An Asylum Merits Interview with USCIS after a positive credible fear determination, meaning you were placed in expedited removal proceedings, you received a positive credible fear determination, and USCIS retained your asylum application for further consideration in an Asylum Merits Interview; or"
Kill this and the asylum courts will run like clockwork. People living in the USA have "positive credible fear" just walking down their own streets. I don't care that the gang in Venezuela is interested in you. You're going to have to go home and figure that out. Just like all of us here already have to do.
Asylum is for people who are reasonably afraid that their government will capture and torture them for extra judicial reasons. No one who literally fucking WALKED across the border is in this category.
We need "documented governmental fear." If you don't have that, your hearing is going to be 1 minute long, will be judged with prejudice (no appeals), and you will be taken into custody for deportation immediately.
What’s your take when there are active, coordinated murder attempts aimed specifically at them for attempting to be a witness to a crime, in a temporary case where they came in though the system, pay us for the stay, and have strong incentive to go home?
That seems like a fair use of the system that could be in our long term interest, potentially even to someone who’s sick of being invaded.
Are you suggesting the USA needs to vouchsafe broken judicial systems the world over by offering asylum to everyone who happened to be near a crime?
Why not just run a foreign witness protection branch? Is it because the country is so corrupt it can't work? So how are they ever going to return home then? Is it because the USA can't actually offer safety to anyone in country? Then what is ONE low level fucking court case going to do?
If you don't solve these problems at the source they will never go away and people will then have an incentive to abuse them. These countries suck. Sorry about that. They have to fix that the same way we did. We literally printed the recipe and they can't get their shit together.
Which is unfair because the CIA fucks these countries harder than anything, but again, shouldn't we solve THIS problem rather than the "dipshit witness" problem first?
Are you suggesting the USA needs to vouchsafe broken judicial systems the world over by offering asylum to everyone who happened to be near a crime?
Not at all, I was trying hard to suggest nothing and simply ask your opinion of it, but I was also asking within the confines of the abused system we currently have. Nothing was intended to suggest it’s a good process.
Why not just run a foreign witness protection branch? Is it because the country is so corrupt it can't work?
That could be a good idea, actually.
Which is unfair because the CIA fucks these countries harder than anything
Yep. Hence my being open to potentially something, while simultaneously hating being crowded out of my own country and ruled by foreigners. We did allow and help fund that corruption, though. It’s not absurd that some portion of the responsibility should fall on our heads. “Handle it there” does seem like a better approach than what we have.
Long story short, just wasn’t sure what to make of that situation.
It is simple... they want to slow walk the process until Trump is out of office. Their time lines for when this should happen are not in 2032 like the rest of us here.
Common sense 101.
They broke our laws by entering, so they must leave. Period! They have NO LEGAL STATUS HERE!
Our due process rights are for citizens, not aliens. Aliens are human beings and should be treated as such, but we have NO responsibility to care for every person who managed to get across our border. Other nations do not tolerate that.
Honest question, not trolling, looking for a real answer because I'm far away from all this: how do they prove someone is an illegal alien and not some Latino citizen who lost his wallet?
Birth records are kept for every person born in the US since like 1913 or maybe 1933. It isn't hard to figure out.
They are not just stopping people on the street, but they have a long list of known aliens apparently.
I believe there are some agencies doing the leg work and cross referencing information with the irs, social security and some other ways to find people who came in during the 4-year invasion allowed by our previous administration.
I can prove I am a US citizen. I cannot prove I am a Mexican citizen.
Same for an invader but reversed.
Squatters take homeowners to court all the time. 🤡🌎
Yes AND that MUST BE CORRECTED!
In what states? hmm..
If they broke our laws to be here, then they have no right to the benefits of our laws.
Holy...shit. 15 million?? 😐
Remember, they’ve been telling us 20 million, as a static number, since 1990.
It’s never gone up, yet rural Kansas is only 50% white now, and 35 years is long enough to have grandchildren.
Yeah I thought it was around 1-4 million in Biden's term but dear Lord..
There’s often several week spans where when I go outside, I hardly see anyone that would have been from here a few decades ago…
I think that's on the low side....It was double or triple that number a few months back by some estimations.
Well we're going to have to pick up the pace, this is not going near fast enough.
As soon as the gang members are deported, they need to focus on Muslim illegals. We don't need Sharia Law and Muslim only communities the USA.
It's incompatible with our Constitution. We have freedom of religion but do we tolerate intolerance? Basically, no. Those who choose to be intolerant are better off living where intolerance is tolerated.
Bravo to Stephen! 👏
Here's the problem:
"An Asylum Merits Interview with USCIS after a positive credible fear determination, meaning you were placed in expedited removal proceedings, you received a positive credible fear determination, and USCIS retained your asylum application for further consideration in an Asylum Merits Interview; or"
Kill this and the asylum courts will run like clockwork. People living in the USA have "positive credible fear" just walking down their own streets. I don't care that the gang in Venezuela is interested in you. You're going to have to go home and figure that out. Just like all of us here already have to do.
Asylum is for people who are reasonably afraid that their government will capture and torture them for extra judicial reasons. No one who literally fucking WALKED across the border is in this category.
We need "documented governmental fear." If you don't have that, your hearing is going to be 1 minute long, will be judged with prejudice (no appeals), and you will be taken into custody for deportation immediately.
It's a rigged system. Unrig it, Steven.
What’s your take when there are active, coordinated murder attempts aimed specifically at them for attempting to be a witness to a crime, in a temporary case where they came in though the system, pay us for the stay, and have strong incentive to go home?
That seems like a fair use of the system that could be in our long term interest, potentially even to someone who’s sick of being invaded.
Don't be a witness. Seriously.
Are you suggesting the USA needs to vouchsafe broken judicial systems the world over by offering asylum to everyone who happened to be near a crime?
Why not just run a foreign witness protection branch? Is it because the country is so corrupt it can't work? So how are they ever going to return home then? Is it because the USA can't actually offer safety to anyone in country? Then what is ONE low level fucking court case going to do?
If you don't solve these problems at the source they will never go away and people will then have an incentive to abuse them. These countries suck. Sorry about that. They have to fix that the same way we did. We literally printed the recipe and they can't get their shit together.
Which is unfair because the CIA fucks these countries harder than anything, but again, shouldn't we solve THIS problem rather than the "dipshit witness" problem first?
Not at all, I was trying hard to suggest nothing and simply ask your opinion of it, but I was also asking within the confines of the abused system we currently have. Nothing was intended to suggest it’s a good process.
That could be a good idea, actually.
Yep. Hence my being open to potentially something, while simultaneously hating being crowded out of my own country and ruled by foreigners. We did allow and help fund that corruption, though. It’s not absurd that some portion of the responsibility should fall on our heads. “Handle it there” does seem like a better approach than what we have.
Long story short, just wasn’t sure what to make of that situation.
Agreed, but can we deport squatters as well?
It is simple... they want to slow walk the process until Trump is out of office. Their time lines for when this should happen are not in 2032 like the rest of us here.
Trump 2028 Fuck them all!
https://x.com/StephenM/status/1911251687647367318?t=B-3FXyh6nvH9_ZyzAMbR-g&s=19
Miller bringing the common sense!