The fluoride is in the form of hydrofluorosilicic acid. It is nasty stuff. It eats through glass and dissolves concrete.
It ha no place in drinking water, yet it is a good way to get rid of all the fluoride that is generated from producing aluminum.
Is it just me or do the skies seem strangely clear of chemtrails now that our state, Florida has passed laws against bans geoengineering and weather modification activities.
I know the law does not take affect until I think July, but go outside and look up. I swear the sky is more blue lately.
Funny how one risk getting banned from this site for mentioning Trails, as though it was some tin foil hat conspiracy, and all the while state after state is passing laws against those rascally trails.
Exactly. Aluminum producing companies like Reynolds used to have to pay to have it disposed of. Then lots of money convinced the right "experts" and all of a sudden it prevents cavities.
I think the introduction of fluoride into most water systems across the US has something to do with the massive drop in testosterone production in men beginning in the 1990s.
Except it is not true. The "fluoride wastes" from aluminum smelting are perfluorocarbons (from electrode consumption), hydrogen fluoride (generated gas), sodium and aluminum fluorides (solids), and unused cryolite (solid solvent for the electrochemical process).
Hydrofluorosilicic acid is a byproduct of phosphate fertilizer manufacture. From Wiipedia: "The resulting hexafluorosilicic acid is almost exclusively consumed as a precursor to aluminum trifluoride and synthetic cryolite, which are used in aluminium processing."
So, this stuff is mainly used as an input to aluminum smelting, which does not produce this stuff as an output.
Actually, no, we did not get enough fluorine from the environment. Volcanoes make it all the time, but it was seldom enough to prevent cavity formation. Which was the whole point of adding it to drinking water.
Not poisonous. I have drunk tapwater all my life and have come to no grief at all. I still have all my teeth at the age of 74, for which I am grateful. I have known about the controversy since I was old enough to read, and have never seen any evidence that it is harming anyone. All my cohort in public school were more intelligent that what we see today, and still are (those of us still alive).
The human body contains all sorts of elements and compounds that would be unhealthy or poisonous if taken in large doses: chlorine, sodium, potassium. We need iodine for our thyroid (iodized salt). We drink ethanol for relaxation, yet it is a poison with a lethal dose of 7 to 3.5 grams/kilogram (rat or mouse). Acetic acid is far more poisonous, but we cook with it as a solution in vinegar. Our own digestive juice consists partly of hydrochloric acid. The old adage: dose makes the poison. You can be killed by drinking (not drowning in) too much water (dilution of electrolytes). You can be killed by breathing pure oxygen under standard pressure.
When people are sufficiently ignorant, they are afraid of what they don't know. In which case, fear is not your friend. Learn more, fear less.
Yeah, if i want floride I'll get it myself. Leave my water alone. The point is I shouldn't be forced to put anything in my body I don't want. You can have all my floride sanitizer apparently didn't stop the cavities my teeth still got.
Nobody forces you to turn the tap and drink the water. Stop being so fake and melodramatic. Buy your water and drink dissolved phthalate chemicals. Drill a well and drink whatever minerals are in it. (Just be sure it is far from your septic tank.) Have more cavities, no one is stopping you.
It's kind of like stolen valor to claim you are fighting for freedom, when all you are doing is sitting on your ass and bitching.
"Nobody forces him to turn the tap and drink the water" What kind of retarded dogbrained moronic statement is this? Water in our homes is goddamn essential you fucking absolute piece of shit, nobody should be dumping sodium fluoride in the water and claiming it's good for us. You dumb fuck
It's called a fact. Just repeat it out loud. You can buy your water in drums as well as by a monthly subscription. You can distill your tapwater. You can drill a well and take your chances with groundwater. I guess you don't like freedom very well, since it is so demanding and inconvenient.
There are people who are not connected to a municipal water supply. Do they die of thirst? No. They have starch in their souls and they get the job done, because it won't get done by bitching. (My wife has to purchase her water supply in bulk because her borehole went dry. There is basically no municipal water supply in Lusaka. Cry me a bucket.)
IT's obvious to me that all that sodium fluoride you drank your whole life has done serious damage to your cognitive abilities, and now you're borderline retarded. There's a difference between the shit the dump in the water sodium fluoride, and the nutrient that occurs naturally calcium fluoride. You've clearly had to much of the sodium variation to be the complete retard you are.
As someone pointed out, they don't dump sodium fluoride in the water. It is a different additive. But what is the problem? These are ionic solids. The sodium becomes separated as a sodium ion, just like the sodium we have from common salt. The fluorine separates and combines with calcium to form tooth material. (Calcium fluoride comes apart in solution to become calcium ions and fluorine ions.) It doesn't matter where the sodium comes from; I need it for my nerves to work. Just as I also need potassium. And why we die of heatstroke if we don't take our salt pills.
If this degree of ignorance of biochemistry occurs to you, maybe your thinking is impaired.
I'm not pro fluorine. I'm just anti-witchcraft. I've never seen any evidence for all the paranoia. Not in my own life or others. Let's face it, you are not against fluorine because it has done you any discernible harm. You are against it because you don't understand it and are therefore fearful of it. Brace yourself. There is a lot in our modern world that you won't understand.
Well, there are plenty of dental studies showing that increased fluorine ion contributes to decreased incidence of cavities. That was the motive. Are you good with the mineral content of the water you drink? The same question applies.
You aren’t getting near enough iodine from iodized salt when it’s being bumped from your thyroid by all the lower atomic weight elements they’re bombing us with - fluorine, chlorine and bromine
Whether I get enough iodine from iodized salt depends on how much iodized salt I take. Which may be less than normal, because I emphasize taking excess potassium chloride in order to combat edema. But the presence of the other elements does not get in the way of iodine. Fluorine, chlorine, and bromine are from the same chemical family as iodine, but their detail chemistry is different. No danger of getting starved of iodine that way.
I don't know of any role that bromine has in our biochemistry. Chlorine is essential for the ion balance of our nerve functions. We don't need that in our water, and it is not provided. We drop dead without it. It's why salt was an original medium of exchange in the ancient world. (Roman troops were paid in salt = "salarus...from which we derive "salary.")
Dr David Brownstein has been studying and recommending iodine supplementation for years. Fluoride and bromide are goitrogens and in an iodine deficiency will bind to the iodine receptors. Commercial iodized salt doesn’t supply near enough iodine to prevent deficiency. Bread used to be iodinated and is now bromated. They’ve been poisoning us with fluoridated and chlorinated water, fluoridated toothpaste, bromine in fire retardant chemicals on everything that it’s blocking iodine uptake in the thyroid.
Good Dr Brownstein interview - his book “Iodine: Why you need it, why you can’t live without it” is a really good source.
Thanks for the insight. I wasn't aware there was so much substitution. Now I will need to include iodine level in my panel of blood tests to see if I am deficient. But that was tested lately and I have been on thyroid function supplements.
I wouldn't get excited about chlorine. That is for sterilization, and chlorine is a necessary component of our blood. Better than ingesting pathogens. It all gets passed out by the kidneys. I don't know how bromine in fire retardant is a problem---unless you like to chew on couch pillows! (In which case, your dog may have a problem.)
Bromine absorbs through your skin. Teflon has fluoride in it also and is used as a water repellent on some clothes. Absorbs through skin. Think about swimming a lot in chlorinated pools. Not good.
Lots of elemental iodine receptors on human sex organs. These get filled up with fluorine, chlorine and bromine and cause lots of breast/prostate cancers, lugol’s iodine applied externally on cysts on breasts makes them disappear.
Crazy stuff.
I think mostly you get all fluorine, chlorine and bromine sources (big “they’re poisoning us” sources) out of your environment, clean up your thyroid and you should be gtg. I did Lugols supplementation for a year. Very interesting.
Teflon has fluorine in it, not "fluoride." And it is bound very tightly to the carbon atoms, which makes teflon inert, so it is unlikely we absorb anything from it. Just because something has a particular element in it does not mean that element is mobile. Sapphire has oxygen in it, but good luck trying to use it for breathing.
I have chlorine in my bloodstream as a life necessity. We swim in the ocean, which has free chlorine in it. Not a problem. You are overreacting.
But I will take your word on iodine and try to remember it.
The corrosion was probably from the phosphoric acid traces in the canned solution. Acids are the opposite of "caustic" and corrode metal. Anything actually caustic would not corrode metal. Human tissue is actually resistant to acid. Our gastric juices include hydrochloric acid, but our stomach walls are protected by a layer of mucus. When the mucus layer is interrupted and acid touches the wall, we get heartburn and ulcers.
One of my fraternity brothers would drink coke syrup as a means of soothing his ulcer. The phosphoric acid must not have been significant. Just as the acetic acid in vinegar is not pleasant, but does not stop us from drinking vinegar without harm.
What is your beef? I said nothing that was untrue. And nothing that was uncivil. And nothing that was angry.
Cola is a nut. No news to me. It is common for Africans to chew it to pass the time. I was trying to provide information. Were you aware of phosphoric acid? You seem not to be. (Mixed with hydrochloric acid, it makes for a powerful floorwash.) My friend did in fact drink what he called coke syrup (what is mixed with carbonated water to make Coca-Cola). He was not getting 3rd-degree burns from it. And it is elementary chemistry that acids are bad on metals but less so on humans. Caustics do not touch metals, but destroy human tissue. I don't think you are in a position to argue against chemistry. As for drinking vinegar, I have done that (apple cider vinegar). It is a common health trick. The Roman soldiers were given their drinking rations in the form of vinegar. (That used to puzzle me, until I figured out the acetic acid would probably preserve it against contamination, and the taste would discourage drinking until and unless it was really needed.) So, don't come at me with outrage over mentioning things that are facts.
Your ability to size me up is atrocious. I never took the vaxx and I am a Trump supporter. Zero for 2.
I still don't know what your beef is, and you have covered it up with nonsense that is easily penetrated. I am very mild mannered. I don't pick fights, except over matters of fact, where I defend the facts. And I try my best to be educational. I don't speak down (unless the level of converse makes it necessary). And I don't waste time on hostility---such as you display. I don't give up, either. I am proud of my record that most clashes conclude with the other party reduced to hostile curses and insults. Clear evidence of defeat.
This is sensationalist nonsense. Carbon dioxide is harmless. But you will still die if you close yourself in a chamber of it.
Even though fluoride should not be in our water, comparing the minute amount you drink in your water supply with a 55 gallon drum of 25 - 100% of the stuff isn't anything but fear mongering.
My opinion on its use in water supply, as explicitly stated, is the same as yours.
What is nonsense is the equation of all of something vs a tiny bit of something. There are thousands of things in our everyday life that are beneficial in moderation and deadly in concentration or abundance. Even water is in this category.
It's safe if you consume under a gram or something like that. And that was proven because it's great at eradicating bacteria in the mouth when used by dentists, until their patients croaked when they used too much and their patients swallowed.
The point I made is is the false equivalence. You would point it out yourself if some dumbass ate 1,000 bananas and then died and then you watched it on a YouTube news report 30 years later.
If you want to go the chemical route, chlorine bleach. Dump what's under your sink on your face and then tell the world "but they put it in swimming pools, therefore it's safe!"
tanker spill here couple months ago, on the news, hazmat response and all.. Nobody asked the question, why is that tanker at the bottom of the damn water tower?
The fluoride is in the form of hydrofluorosilicic acid. It is nasty stuff. It eats through glass and dissolves concrete. It ha no place in drinking water, yet it is a good way to get rid of all the fluoride that is generated from producing aluminum.
Lucky!!
Is it just me or do the skies seem strangely clear of chemtrails now that our state, Florida has passed laws against bans geoengineering and weather modification activities.
I know the law does not take affect until I think July, but go outside and look up. I swear the sky is more blue lately.
Oh I envy you! In the Sierras we get plastered relentlessly.
Well I kind of envy you too! You have Sierras!
Except for politics and government, it's idyllic.
Around here it is clearer ever since RFK Jr answered that question about the trails.
I only saw them once and it was the day when heavy rains happened hours later.
Funny how one risk getting banned from this site for mentioning Trails, as though it was some tin foil hat conspiracy, and all the while state after state is passing laws against those rascally trails.
Exactly. Aluminum producing companies like Reynolds used to have to pay to have it disposed of. Then lots of money convinced the right "experts" and all of a sudden it prevents cavities.
I think the introduction of fluoride into most water systems across the US has something to do with the massive drop in testosterone production in men beginning in the 1990s.
They were reporting Testosterone production was falling prior to the 90s. It only entered the free fall we are more familiar with in the 90s.
The 90s would also coincide with major shifts towards plastic in food packaging, and other household goods.
As many food grade plastics are known to leach hormone affecting chemicals into the contents of whatever is packaged in it.
There’s also a lot more chemicals, oils, and other assorted things in use primarily by men. That also contain hormone affecting chemicals.
I'm thinking the oppressive lavender-scented air freshener, in public and office restrooms nowadays, must be a major culprit.
I hate lavender but even if I loved it, I’d never use it on my family’s clothing.
I never liked the song, I can tell you that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7N6ZcxLRSs
You are full of hot air. This material is consumed by aluminum processing, not produced by it. You are just repeating mythology.
Except it is not true. The "fluoride wastes" from aluminum smelting are perfluorocarbons (from electrode consumption), hydrogen fluoride (generated gas), sodium and aluminum fluorides (solids), and unused cryolite (solid solvent for the electrochemical process).
Hydrofluorosilicic acid is a byproduct of phosphate fertilizer manufacture. From Wiipedia: "The resulting hexafluorosilicic acid is almost exclusively consumed as a precursor to aluminum trifluoride and synthetic cryolite, which are used in aluminium processing."
So, this stuff is mainly used as an input to aluminum smelting, which does not produce this stuff as an output.
Thanks for the chemistry lesson. I’ve been enlightened.
Old Reagan motto: "Trust, but verify."
We used to get enough fluorine from the environment naturally before the industrial age (before industrial pollution).
Since that time we consume many multiples more.
How much more is poisonous? I suggest there is plenty of evidence that suggests that ANY extra amount is harmful.
Actually, no, we did not get enough fluorine from the environment. Volcanoes make it all the time, but it was seldom enough to prevent cavity formation. Which was the whole point of adding it to drinking water.
Not poisonous. I have drunk tapwater all my life and have come to no grief at all. I still have all my teeth at the age of 74, for which I am grateful. I have known about the controversy since I was old enough to read, and have never seen any evidence that it is harming anyone. All my cohort in public school were more intelligent that what we see today, and still are (those of us still alive).
The human body contains all sorts of elements and compounds that would be unhealthy or poisonous if taken in large doses: chlorine, sodium, potassium. We need iodine for our thyroid (iodized salt). We drink ethanol for relaxation, yet it is a poison with a lethal dose of 7 to 3.5 grams/kilogram (rat or mouse). Acetic acid is far more poisonous, but we cook with it as a solution in vinegar. Our own digestive juice consists partly of hydrochloric acid. The old adage: dose makes the poison. You can be killed by drinking (not drowning in) too much water (dilution of electrolytes). You can be killed by breathing pure oxygen under standard pressure.
When people are sufficiently ignorant, they are afraid of what they don't know. In which case, fear is not your friend. Learn more, fear less.
Yeah, if i want floride I'll get it myself. Leave my water alone. The point is I shouldn't be forced to put anything in my body I don't want. You can have all my floride sanitizer apparently didn't stop the cavities my teeth still got.
Nobody forces you to turn the tap and drink the water. Stop being so fake and melodramatic. Buy your water and drink dissolved phthalate chemicals. Drill a well and drink whatever minerals are in it. (Just be sure it is far from your septic tank.) Have more cavities, no one is stopping you.
It's kind of like stolen valor to claim you are fighting for freedom, when all you are doing is sitting on your ass and bitching.
"Nobody forces him to turn the tap and drink the water" What kind of retarded dogbrained moronic statement is this? Water in our homes is goddamn essential you fucking absolute piece of shit, nobody should be dumping sodium fluoride in the water and claiming it's good for us. You dumb fuck
It's called a fact. Just repeat it out loud. You can buy your water in drums as well as by a monthly subscription. You can distill your tapwater. You can drill a well and take your chances with groundwater. I guess you don't like freedom very well, since it is so demanding and inconvenient.
There are people who are not connected to a municipal water supply. Do they die of thirst? No. They have starch in their souls and they get the job done, because it won't get done by bitching. (My wife has to purchase her water supply in bulk because her borehole went dry. There is basically no municipal water supply in Lusaka. Cry me a bucket.)
IT's obvious to me that all that sodium fluoride you drank your whole life has done serious damage to your cognitive abilities, and now you're borderline retarded. There's a difference between the shit the dump in the water sodium fluoride, and the nutrient that occurs naturally calcium fluoride. You've clearly had to much of the sodium variation to be the complete retard you are.
As someone pointed out, they don't dump sodium fluoride in the water. It is a different additive. But what is the problem? These are ionic solids. The sodium becomes separated as a sodium ion, just like the sodium we have from common salt. The fluorine separates and combines with calcium to form tooth material. (Calcium fluoride comes apart in solution to become calcium ions and fluorine ions.) It doesn't matter where the sodium comes from; I need it for my nerves to work. Just as I also need potassium. And why we die of heatstroke if we don't take our salt pills.
If this degree of ignorance of biochemistry occurs to you, maybe your thinking is impaired.
I've never seen someone so pro fluorine. You can have mine but keep it out of the water supply!
I'm not pro fluorine. I'm just anti-witchcraft. I've never seen any evidence for all the paranoia. Not in my own life or others. Let's face it, you are not against fluorine because it has done you any discernible harm. You are against it because you don't understand it and are therefore fearful of it. Brace yourself. There is a lot in our modern world that you won't understand.
What is the evidence that adding industrial waste to the water supply is beneficial?
Well, there are plenty of dental studies showing that increased fluorine ion contributes to decreased incidence of cavities. That was the motive. Are you good with the mineral content of the water you drink? The same question applies.
You aren’t getting near enough iodine from iodized salt when it’s being bumped from your thyroid by all the lower atomic weight elements they’re bombing us with - fluorine, chlorine and bromine
Whether I get enough iodine from iodized salt depends on how much iodized salt I take. Which may be less than normal, because I emphasize taking excess potassium chloride in order to combat edema. But the presence of the other elements does not get in the way of iodine. Fluorine, chlorine, and bromine are from the same chemical family as iodine, but their detail chemistry is different. No danger of getting starved of iodine that way.
I don't know of any role that bromine has in our biochemistry. Chlorine is essential for the ion balance of our nerve functions. We don't need that in our water, and it is not provided. We drop dead without it. It's why salt was an original medium of exchange in the ancient world. (Roman troops were paid in salt = "salarus...from which we derive "salary.")
Dr David Brownstein has been studying and recommending iodine supplementation for years. Fluoride and bromide are goitrogens and in an iodine deficiency will bind to the iodine receptors. Commercial iodized salt doesn’t supply near enough iodine to prevent deficiency. Bread used to be iodinated and is now bromated. They’ve been poisoning us with fluoridated and chlorinated water, fluoridated toothpaste, bromine in fire retardant chemicals on everything that it’s blocking iodine uptake in the thyroid.
Good Dr Brownstein interview - his book “Iodine: Why you need it, why you can’t live without it” is a really good source.
https://www.naturalendocrinesolutions.com/2012/01/05/an-interview-with-dr-david-brownstein-on-iodine-and-thyroid-health/
Thanks for the insight. I wasn't aware there was so much substitution. Now I will need to include iodine level in my panel of blood tests to see if I am deficient. But that was tested lately and I have been on thyroid function supplements.
I wouldn't get excited about chlorine. That is for sterilization, and chlorine is a necessary component of our blood. Better than ingesting pathogens. It all gets passed out by the kidneys. I don't know how bromine in fire retardant is a problem---unless you like to chew on couch pillows! (In which case, your dog may have a problem.)
Bromine absorbs through your skin. Teflon has fluoride in it also and is used as a water repellent on some clothes. Absorbs through skin. Think about swimming a lot in chlorinated pools. Not good.
Lots of elemental iodine receptors on human sex organs. These get filled up with fluorine, chlorine and bromine and cause lots of breast/prostate cancers, lugol’s iodine applied externally on cysts on breasts makes them disappear.
Crazy stuff.
I think mostly you get all fluorine, chlorine and bromine sources (big “they’re poisoning us” sources) out of your environment, clean up your thyroid and you should be gtg. I did Lugols supplementation for a year. Very interesting.
Teflon has fluorine in it, not "fluoride." And it is bound very tightly to the carbon atoms, which makes teflon inert, so it is unlikely we absorb anything from it. Just because something has a particular element in it does not mean that element is mobile. Sapphire has oxygen in it, but good luck trying to use it for breathing.
I have chlorine in my bloodstream as a life necessity. We swim in the ocean, which has free chlorine in it. Not a problem. You are overreacting.
But I will take your word on iodine and try to remember it.
Same thing with synthetic vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol). Supposedly it's toxic in some amount for rodents, but not for humans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholecalciferol
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/vpc11/22/
https://bartoll.se/2024/08/truth-dangerous-vitamin-d3/
https://bartoll.se/2023/04/vitamin-d-supplement-scam/
They're really hitting us from all angles.
I don't know how to wrap my head around this one. I found out about it previous weekend.
https://bartoll.se/2024/08/truth-dangerous-vitamin-d3/
Happy hunting fren! 🐸
Then what Vitamin D do you recommend?
Eggs, meat and the sun.
If your on well water the pediatricians want to prescribe your child fluoride drop! Crazy bunch of sheeps
Concentrated Coke syrup is caustic and will cause 3rd degree burns if you come in contact with it but it's cool to drink in solution.
The corrosion was probably from the phosphoric acid traces in the canned solution. Acids are the opposite of "caustic" and corrode metal. Anything actually caustic would not corrode metal. Human tissue is actually resistant to acid. Our gastric juices include hydrochloric acid, but our stomach walls are protected by a layer of mucus. When the mucus layer is interrupted and acid touches the wall, we get heartburn and ulcers.
One of my fraternity brothers would drink coke syrup as a means of soothing his ulcer. The phosphoric acid must not have been significant. Just as the acetic acid in vinegar is not pleasant, but does not stop us from drinking vinegar without harm.
What is your beef? I said nothing that was untrue. And nothing that was uncivil. And nothing that was angry.
Cola is a nut. No news to me. It is common for Africans to chew it to pass the time. I was trying to provide information. Were you aware of phosphoric acid? You seem not to be. (Mixed with hydrochloric acid, it makes for a powerful floorwash.) My friend did in fact drink what he called coke syrup (what is mixed with carbonated water to make Coca-Cola). He was not getting 3rd-degree burns from it. And it is elementary chemistry that acids are bad on metals but less so on humans. Caustics do not touch metals, but destroy human tissue. I don't think you are in a position to argue against chemistry. As for drinking vinegar, I have done that (apple cider vinegar). It is a common health trick. The Roman soldiers were given their drinking rations in the form of vinegar. (That used to puzzle me, until I figured out the acetic acid would probably preserve it against contamination, and the taste would discourage drinking until and unless it was really needed.) So, don't come at me with outrage over mentioning things that are facts.
Your ability to size me up is atrocious. I never took the vaxx and I am a Trump supporter. Zero for 2.
I still don't know what your beef is, and you have covered it up with nonsense that is easily penetrated. I am very mild mannered. I don't pick fights, except over matters of fact, where I defend the facts. And I try my best to be educational. I don't speak down (unless the level of converse makes it necessary). And I don't waste time on hostility---such as you display. I don't give up, either. I am proud of my record that most clashes conclude with the other party reduced to hostile curses and insults. Clear evidence of defeat.
Thanks for coming around. I'm not.
Fluoride is a Poison. Dont believe me look at the fine print on your toothpaste tube!
So is ethyl alcohol. Bottoms up.
This is sensationalist nonsense. Carbon dioxide is harmless. But you will still die if you close yourself in a chamber of it.
Even though fluoride should not be in our water, comparing the minute amount you drink in your water supply with a 55 gallon drum of 25 - 100% of the stuff isn't anything but fear mongering.
My opinion on its use in water supply, as explicitly stated, is the same as yours.
What is nonsense is the equation of all of something vs a tiny bit of something. There are thousands of things in our everyday life that are beneficial in moderation and deadly in concentration or abundance. Even water is in this category.
BY your logic one itty bitty jab should be ok.
The point is on the extra shit added it's not meant to be there in the first place. Don't add it without my permission.
It's safe if you consume under a gram or something like that. And that was proven because it's great at eradicating bacteria in the mouth when used by dentists, until their patients croaked when they used too much and their patients swallowed.
The point I made is is the false equivalence. You would point it out yourself if some dumbass ate 1,000 bananas and then died and then you watched it on a YouTube news report 30 years later.
If you want to go the chemical route, chlorine bleach. Dump what's under your sink on your face and then tell the world "but they put it in swimming pools, therefore it's safe!"
Except I didn't say that. I've said so twice now.
tanker spill here couple months ago, on the news, hazmat response and all.. Nobody asked the question, why is that tanker at the bottom of the damn water tower?
I suppose the fluoride is OK to drink for those still drinking the Kool-Aid.
14 years ago.
ahhhh, fresh.