Setting aside for a moment the fact that virtually no one online has noticed that essentially every web search engine is now a search engine illusion (a facade - a 'Potemkin village'), we have a second issue at hand:
When these search engine illusions become the topic of discussion, virtually no one has any clue how powerful the search engines were before the illusions arrived, or how they were used.
This shouldn't be possible absent the killing-off of just about everybody who was using the Internet between 1998 and 2020.
I have no explanation for it.
There's some kind of Internet (maybe even reality) manipulation taking place that shouldn't be possible.
I used to work for altavista. Trust me I’ve noticed.
That was my go-to engine back in the day. Anything weird or conspiracy: altavista FTW. It's always interesting to me when something surfaces on TikTok (and makes its way onto here or wherever) and I think, yeah, I read that in a schitzo site in the late 90's that wasn't afraid of the <blink> tag </blink> I found via Altavista
I loved webcrawler.
I definitely noticed the shift. I was doing a lot of research at the time. Things I used to access easily are now buried, if they can be found at all. Certain information like docs have to be recalled if you have the name - but you can no longer find them doing a simple search.
Agree. I commented on this topic on this board a few years ago regarding searches on POTUS. I remember pages and pages of returned results that didn't duplicate. Now, all the top items are all main stream BS answers and the "see more" option reveals the MS BS duplicated. I also hate the formatting. Bring back the days when you could search for any conspiracy topic, and thousands of random blogs, chats, etc. would return as results. There was so much great info out there.
Not to mention the sites that have been scrubbed and sanitized if you do happen to find the access code. Many of the MSM web pages weren't the same shortly after Q drops and anons exposed them.
I suppose somebody could set up a site like how yahoo used to be. That technically wasn’t a search engine at first it was a link database and you had different topic areas you could browse and it would show you all the sites that fit in those topics. Heck you could just make one of those maybe we should
Well... back when those who were smart enough, autodidactic and curious - you could spend DAYS on just ONE search inquiry and endless tabs/windows if you built your own box with as much RAM as possible...
There's a KEY point to remember circa 1995-2005, that unless you were tech saavy and you were either an IT pro or in college - you probably didn't have a PC AND even less had Internet access.
Most people had ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS owning a computer OR being online. Just like most didn't NEED a cell phone. In fact VERY FEW in comparison to the general population had both.
There was a PERISHABLE TIME PERIOD when information and digitized things were starting to populate the web with useful (even obscure) information... and searching for anything, no matter how obscure, was possible...
Then as schmucky public filed in and "every asshole gets a website" started, then all that dot com bs started and advertising pollution started happening in earnest...Then the search started becoming compromised...No more "67,456,321 results" - just some stupid blue asshole with a fishing rod (this is more recent)
The thrill of online commerce shadowed the need to search for any "information" what are you nuts? Information? No! We want RARE trinkets! Cheap!!! And that's most likely WHY retards that NEVER should have had access to the web, mob steered the fate of the search engine - seeking cheap Chinese trinkets and slop. You wanna sell slop? Great! You want to educate? Pfft ...
But remember how there were all those Geocities pages with TONS of esoteric information people kicked up? And ALL of those Photobucket pics across the web? Then SUDDENLY - both just shut down and literally RUINED years of collective human information covering nearly every subject imaginable.
And now? It's all shit. A dystopian diet Coke fag net where faceplace took the role of "easy posting" and every asshole nobody wants having a microphone has a voice... and god forbid a podcast...sigh...
Anyway... YEAH OP we know... It's a real dogpile...
No kidding. In the past every town and village had their own village idiot and town nutter that everyone that lived there knew about. But outside their own town or village, not so much. Now however, everyone's village idiot has a global platform.
This isn't correct and I suspect that, assuming you're over 40, if you think on it a bit you'll recall that it's not correct.
There was no organic steering of anything in this particular case.
We're seeing some entity with enormous power putting a hard swift kibosh on the taxcattle's ability to access unfiltered knowledge. The crippled fake search engines are helping to move everyone to AI for information. Once that move is complete, the censorship, deception and lies we already see present in Grok and ChatGPT (especially ChatGPT) will increase a thousand fold.
Other than those two things, I love your comment.
For those reading who might not quite grasp what TaQo means when he says "no matter how obscure": Even as recently as 2012, you could submit a query of 16 random characters in a row (eg "h29ql4b4fpx8ee2") and you would often get a result for a page that contained that exact string of characters. That's simply the reality of what you get when billions of people spend years adding trillions of things (sometimes very large things like entire databases built offline over decades) to the Internet.
It's pretty correct for adults in my region...Your mileage may vary.
Children, who didn't have fully developed brains at that time, were excluded.
Why hasn’t anyone created a real search engine? Why are we dealing with the controlled stuff?
When Google started it was a real search engine, and far superior to most alternatives in terms of convenience while better than most in terms of content (i.e., finding what you want).
From there it was the typical playbook: use deep pockets to out-invest and out-market the competition, once near-monopoly is achieved gradually make incremental changes that increase convenience and degrade utility. After almost 30 years it's now blatant censorship, with unparalleled effects on public discourse and commerce.
Bingo. Also they get all the intellectual property patents so nobody else can recreate the old search engines without getting sued into oblivion. Probably similar to how they stopped any kind of “free energy” generators or stuff like that in the past.
And many medical cures.
One of the leading theories is that the cabal offers to buy them out as soon as they enter the scene, with the alternative of being litigated into bankruptcy (or worse) for linking to illegal, 'harmful' or 'hateful' content (ie, normal search engine indexing & linking minus the legal immunity that's granted to Google).
It requires huge amounts of compute and storage - millions per month to run well oiled - which means you need a big investor, which means you will be under their control.
Yet yandex exists...
For all the things we love about Yandex, its funded by Russian govt no doubt. And I am not complaining, sometimes benign funding is the only way to get some things done.
This isn't the problem.
Big investment would only be required if you were trying to be 2007 Google at launch.
For a basic web search engine that simply indexes all pages crawled, runs the user query against the index and returns the URL and snippet for each matching page (in blocks of 10), there are many models that would require little funding to get it started. Once started, the rate at which its speed and crawling frequency increases will be directly proportional to the rate at which ad (or subscription) money comes in.
Someone is actively shutting down uncensored web search engines that do their own crawling, probably before they even launch. And all these tech billionaires somehow know they're not allowed to launch one.
Exactly. It's not like we don't have billionaires who 1) understand the need and 2) have the money and contacts to do it. Like Elon and President Trump
I work with someone who constantly states "I know whats going on! I watch FOX and Google everything". He thinks he's ahead of the curve. When I told him FOX is just CNN with American flags and country music and Google is highly manipulated he says I don't know anything and he's more informed. Okay!
To be fair. FOX has been picking up an increasing amount of the type of content we see here over the last few years.
They aren’t up to speed, but every occasion they’ll get close for a few minutes.
Can't use any search engines to find q alerts or anything related to q anymore. Its been black holed.
https://yandex.com/search/touch/?text=q+alerts
The internet isn't the internet anymore. It is a matrix of illusions.
I noticed some time ago that even if a search produces "10 million results" they never go beyond page 22. So you never see more than a few dozen result links in total, many of which are duplicates.
Thank you for drawing attention to this. I'd forgotten how different searches were 25-30 years ago. It was a great time to be an information junkie.
I used to be able to get pages hidden behind firewalls - anything that ever hit the internet was fair game. It was very useful for finding information on obscure parts and products without having to search through layers of corporate sales tactics or having to sign up for spam and solicitations just to get a spec sheet or solve a problem.
Lol, I use the search functions in x, gaw etc, Google and all of them are cooked for anything other than basic questions. I remember we got the aol when I was 8 years old. There was a time when the Internet was the wild west and I miss it. I miss voat.
Is Yandex compromised now?
All web search engines (or the databases they query) are now captured, including Yandex.
I used to get really good results. Now? It's a game to rephrase the question to beat the system.
If anyone knows of a search engine that does a better job than most, please let us know.
For stuff that seems impossible to access via Google et al, I get better results with yandex. Not perfect, but better.
This is very true. What I noticed was that you could find ANYTHING on the web until the election in 2016. Then censorship hit big time.
"pizzagate" on Google? No problem back then.
I remember 10 years or more ago web searches would result in mostly related hits, now it results in mostly ads.