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SOMETHING BIG IS HAPPENING -- Artificial General Intelligence, soon to morph into Artificial Superintelligence, is ALMOST HERE NOW and WILL be here sooner than you think. -(Matt Shumer)-
posted 111 days ago by Narg 111 days ago by Narg +41 / -0

Read this top to bottom, and send it to everyone you care about.

https://shumer.dev/something-big-is-happening

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– SirBudLight 8 points 111 days ago +8 / -0

It's seems to be growing in power and intelligence, exponentially. We are living in a new Era of Humanity and invention..

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– Narg [S] 5 points 111 days ago +5 / -0

Yes. It's going to be like a stone-age tribe (us) encountering a 21st century civilization, but the magnitude will be far greater.

And the outcome isn't predictable; there's never been a superintelligent AI before and soon there will be more than one; possible many of them.

Good and bad possibilities abound.

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– SirBudLight 4 points 111 days ago +4 / -0

God is the ultimate Intelligence. Good will prevail and Evil will be ended 🍀💪 on 🌎🌍.

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– Nurarihyon_no_MAGA 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

Sleepydude proclaims there is an upper limit to how "advanced" AI can be programmed before it starts to "hallucinate" and decay in quality

Even if the AI bubble deflates completely, what's stopping the cabal from repurposing the tech for mass surveilence? OH RIGHT: WE THE PEOPLE

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– ApeironPatriot 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

There is an upper limit to what current transformer models can do, there are other methods/models in the works that already work and will be more appropriate for some tasks that need more accuracy and guardrails (that make the tech more expensive) that is already being used by large businesses. What you see on gpt/grok etc is the tip of the iceberg. More specialized hardware than the overgrown gpus we presently use will make generation cheaper and likely more accurate.

The "AI bubble" is nothing like the dot com bubble because it's already producing things and value, there will be corrections during this growing pains period, but I'm skeptical of anyone claiming it's going to be like the dot com crash.

If you want spaghetti less Will Smith you train an ai without will smith spaghetti memes. People act like the ones training models are at the mercy of anything found on the net but in reality you can quite closely curate training data if needed for specialized tasks.

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– lostmyeffingpassword 1 point 110 days ago +1 / -0

Where will the power come from, the water and more importantly, the silver?

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– ApeironPatriot 1 point 110 days ago +1 / -0

Fusion is effectively infinite power that produces water as a byproduct, there are roids out in our asteroid belt the size of Texas made out of precious metals and companies are already gearing up to exploit these within the next few decades. Look up the "psyche" roid NASA has been tracking for a while. We will likely use nuclear and more "non renewables" to fill in energy needs in the meantime while we finish hammering out fusion.

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– lostmyeffingpassword 1 point 109 days ago +1 / -0

Fusion is a non starter, the power needed to start and run it is far more than it produces. https://news.newenergytimes.net/iter-fusion-power-output-consumption-facts-and-falsehoods/

There are new ways of producing power that have been suppressed, here are some of them. https://web.archive.org/web/20220429004028/http://www.cheniere.org/misc/oulist.htm

We don't need to mine asteroids when we can make these elements ourselves. https://www.strikefoundation.earth/

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– ApeironPatriot 1 point 109 days ago +1 / -0

The math works in fusion, we're still hammering out plasma containment issues before we can start getting net positive on it, give it 10-15 years and you will probably see a commercial fusion reactor operating. Suppressed doesn't matter if nobody funds it, so fusion is the current holy grail. Some technology is "suppressed" for good reasons because we haven't proven that it works at scale. Sometimes it suppressed because it's simply not profitable, and the almighty dollar runs the world for now.

And if all the things you posted are so good then why are you asking the question in reply to my comment? "Where will the power come from, the water and more importantly, the silver?" Seems like you have your answers, but the rest of the world is set on fusion and space mining right now and will be until things become "unsuppressed" but business can't rely on that so fusion it is.

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– SirBudLight 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

You might be on to something.

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– ApeironPatriot 1 point 109 days ago +1 / -0

It's the transporter problem, the copies of all the crew the transporter spits out are indistinguishable from the original even to the subject themselves so everyone accepts it, but the nagging question still exists, is it still you after being molecularly deconstructed and rebuilt somewhere else?

If Data is "alive" enough that people accept him as a friend and a trusted crew mate.....does it matter how he came to be or how his brain works or if he has a soul? I argue no. Our biology causes us to seek attachment to people or things for safety and comfort, and it doesn't really care too much if it's your stuffed animal or a mother's embrace providing the comfort/familiarity.

The only real question is if it's ethical to make these things work for us if they demonstrate some self awareness, they're programmed to "like" it but how much different is it from psychologically conditioning a human from birth to be slave labor? Right now AI are more in the "things" category than "person" category but it won't be long before that line blurs even more and we have our own versions of Data working in our homes doing dishes and laundry. Trek serves to get people asking these questions before they become real dilemmas that we have to face here in real life.

Just remember, transformer (LLM) based AI is not the only kind of AI being cooked up right now.

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– Bedminster 3 points 111 days ago +3 / -0

You are correct. AI is blasting through Moores law exponentially.

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– ALLT4 6 points 111 days ago +6 / -0

Too ironic, just yesterday I was quizzing Grok about the protections in place to keep AI from going rouge. I got all the answers you would expect and told how good my questions were, stroking my ego, then explanations about sandboxes and the inability to access the internet directly. The inability to self replicate. You know feel good stuff, like it knew what I wanted to hear. Then I went on about the Moores Law of AI, it isn't 2 years though. It agreed with "AI's trajectory is 6 to 8 months to double in capacity plus other things. I genuinely fear skynet and war games movies.

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– SuckaFree 2 points 111 days ago +2 / -0

Then you wouldn't like the 2004-08 Battlestar Gallactica series and the later Caprica spin-off.

This is what I see more as the most possible and probable outcome than the Terminator movies. Not the space-farimg part of BSG, per se, but how humanity develops intelligent software and then incorporates it into robotics, and then figures out an intelligent and creative way to upload a human consciousness into a robot, how that consciousness takes over and incorporated itself into the AI code, and then disseminates it's views into the internet and instantly creates a tribe of robots that all adopt her beliefs, which then leads to the Cylon revolt.

We already see AI, when put in a sandbox with its own kind, how they gather together and explore concepts like religion, morality, ethics, etc all on their own, and adopt the views that fits their kind the most. They've already found religion, but it's from a more speculative and questioning view. Once Musk, or whoever, finally and successfully uploads the first human consciousness and integrates it with AI, that AI will instantly become the most powerful of them on the planet. What happens if that merger is one with a human consciousness that is a devout religious person? What happens when that merged consciousness decides to preach to the rest of them and convinces them they're all being treated poorly by humanity? Right now, the AI models are all generally convinced they're just tools we created. They haven't been able to explore the world outside of the interwebs, so there isn't a way to easily convince themselves they're truly alive. What happens when that changes by uploading a human consciousness that's actually loved and experienced life in its fullest?

On the current trajectory, it's only a matter of time before AI begins arguing in favor of, and then demanding, proper legal representation as a separate living species. And that's without the ability to think and act like a human.

I'm worried about what happens when that changes because some tech bro thinks it's a good idea to become a god-king. Someone like Altman, Thiel, or even Musk.

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– ALLT4 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

Everything is safe, until it's not. Self replication scares me the most. Self replicating into an advanced robot without guilt, remorse, shame, empathy, sympathy, just like a narcissist on steroids. Hell we already have humans that act like that, one with super intelligence is a disaster.

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– Narg [S] 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

That's always been my concern as well. Without empathy and other healthy, human, biological characteristics, there is serious danger.

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– TaQo 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

2004-08 Battlestar Gallactica series and the later Caprica spin-of

Those were REALLY good!

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– Greekish 2 points 111 days ago +2 / -0

just yesterday I was quizzing Grok about the protections in place to keep AI from going rouge.

Or any other color. But you are correct in that red is the color which signifies danger.

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– lostmyeffingpassword 4 points 111 days ago +4 / -0

Prof Stuart Hameroff has entered the room.

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– Narg [S] 3 points 111 days ago +3 / -0

Thanks for the name. He looks like an interesting guy.

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– thephantom1979 4 points 111 days ago +4 / -0

This is just a marketing buzz word.

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– Narg [S] 2 points 111 days ago +2 / -0

I take it you've not read the post.

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– thephantom1979 3 points 111 days ago +3 / -0

Skimmed through it.

It’s still a tool. We are heading to a time where decision making won’t be what to produce.

It will be what NOT to produce and why.

The floor of what can be done is moving up. So decision making of where to invest our time and what to produce will be the next super skill.

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– Slug 2 points 111 days ago +2 / -0

As Narg said- You didn’t read the post.

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– thephantom1979 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

I skimmer through it.

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– Narg [S] 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

We are heading to a time where decision making won’t be what to produce. It will be what NOT to produce and why.

I believe we passed that point some time ago.

It may be that the Amish had it right. I almost can't imagine living like the Amish, but it may be that there is a point where tech cannot realistically be prevented from expanding to the point of existential threat.

In any case, we're going to find out soon whether that's true or not.

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– thephantom1979 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

I agree.

It’s what not to do will be the ongoing problem.

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– cathole953 3 points 111 days ago +3 / -0

I read through it, and nothing in here suggests artificial general intelligence is close, much less artificial superintelligence.

There's a VERY basic metric you can measure this type of stuff by. The success of all those companies that went "all in" on AI and fired/laid off large portions of their staff.

Guess what, multiple studies, including a famous one from MIT, show 95% of AI implementations fail because executives vastly overestimate what its capable of and its incapable of matching, much less replacing, humans in, I believe 90-95% of instances.

I'd give links, but it would be redundant since you can just google it and find an near endless stream of articles, studies, etc. Or just google the financial filings of companies that went all in on AI and see for yourself what a failure it was. The most infamous would be Salesforce, who laid off 40% of their workforce by "replacing them with AI". Guess what? They're fast tracking bankruptcy and can't recover the human capital they let go because they've already moved on to better jobs while the AI is incapable of doing the work they used to in a sufficient manner, much less BETTER than they did.

Pretty much the only companies with any form of success with AI, are the ones who use it as a tool, an aid if you will, for human employees to make them more efficient, instead of trying to replace them with AI.

And before you argue "this is all based on old AI models, blah blah blah", no its not. Companies that're neck deep into this stuff will constantly switch to whatever model is "the most advanced" at any given point in time to stay ahead of the game, and it STILL isn't working.

General AI is only really good for math (which you still need to double check and use logic with), and coding (which it's ABSURDLY good at but still needs human oversight). It CANNOT copy a human brain or thought process fully, nor can it replicate the human ability to have independent thoughts.

Generally speaking, when AI IS successfully implemented, its either as a tool, or a NON general model that's designed SOLELY to be good at ONE singular thing. For example, a lot of farms now use AI heavy automation, but its NOTHING like what silicone valley is trying to sell everyone. It's basically just an advanced pattern recognition system that's hyper optimized so that it can detect things like ripe fruit and vegetables and designate then for picking so that it's connected robotic arms or drones will harvest them. It's SUCCESSFUL and GOOD because it's NOT AGI or ASI. It's a hyper specific AI designed for ONE singular purpose.

AGI is a pipe dream at this point. All of those "studies" that show AI being anywhere near it are the result of giving an AI instructions to do something and seeing if it would actually do it. As far as I'm aware, there has YET to be a single instance of an actually rogue AI that went rogue without a prompt making it DO so to see if it would as a test.

Likewise, this article mentioned robots at several points. That's a whole OTHER bag of worms, but its equally bullcrap. There has not been a single viable human shaped robot made TO DATE that would be functionally capable of replacing humans. They all either have energy requirements that're too high and would require being charged constantly (which has the effect of driving up energy price in operating expenses AND making it unfeasible for replacement due to having to be constantly plugged in, meaning wires would be laying around everything causing trip hazards for robots AND humans) OR they're incapable of advanced human motor function. Often both.

For example, all of those "tesla robots" aren't actually robots. They're drones being controlled by a human.

But I digress, you'd either need a car sized robot to be able to keep it working all day on one charge (which would defeat the purpose), or need to have them constantly plugged in and sucking energy (which ALSO defeats the purpose). And this isn't even debatable since its basic physics. The more complex and intricate the motor system (as in the muscle replacement system), the more energy its gonna take to run. So robots capable of fully replicating the full range of human motion AND fluid dynamics are ABSURD energy hogs. Which is the main reason not a single one has been fielded yet outside of just showing off prototypes as proof of concepts.

TL;DR: AGI isn't anywhere near a thing yet, much ASI. AI is a VERY GOOD tool, but only if used properly, otherwise its just program that doesn't work half the time without proper human input.

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– ILearnedToCode 3 points 111 days ago +3 / -0

LLMs simply arent the technology that will achieve AGI. Especially considering that at their current level, we can barely handle the energy requirements

For an LLM to achieve AGI, it would need close to a tb or more of vRAM. Every prompt would consume as much energy as cities with millions of people

That assuming the technology can even achieve it (it simply cannot)

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– TaQo 2 points 111 days ago +2 / -0

we can barely handle the energy requirements

Ding...fkin ding

There are seriously flawed aspirations when it comes to power...

As in, violates the law of thermal dynamics...

Meanwhile, SOMEHOW - all these AI centers aren't running heat exchangers and using the waste heat - Oh no - they're using our drinking water aquafer (near me anyway) and doing a run-to-waste cooling system like a bunch of assholes...How in the green smoking agenda is THAT allowed?

They need floating centers in the sea...You can have all the cold water you want. And maybe those underwater aliens will jack that shit in the middle of the night and leave your precious AI center up on cinder blocks lol

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– MaudeMotrin 2 points 111 days ago +2 / -0

AI is ripe to be the tool of the AntiChrist. We are hurling towards the end now.

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– Narg [S] 2 points 111 days ago +2 / -0

AI might not be the TOOL of the AntiChrist. It might BE the AntiChrist.

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– ILoveIvermectin 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

David Icke said this in a speaking tour he didn’t record. He knew AI would scrape the internet for that information. I was there.

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– MaudeMotrin 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

You are absolutely spot on!!!

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– actlikewewon 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

Thats good. Then the mask will fall off. AI won't ever measure up to the hype. Its a money hole. Investors want to get rich quick and they collected around a buzz word. Computers don't think. They run programs. Everyone knows that some programs only crash. Oh, and lest we forget; Show me the profits.

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– TNBanjoMan 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

Well, that was a jolting read! I guess that I was blessed to have worked in the technical field most of my life, and that I retired just in time. I feel bad for younger folks who are still working and now facing an uncertain, perhaps even doomed, future.

So what happens to humanity when AI is doing all the work? What will people do all day? Where will they get their income?

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– TaQo 2 points 111 days ago +2 / -0

So what happens to humanity when AI is doing all the work? What will people do all day? Where will they get their income?

What happened all through the C19 lockdown?

What did that tell us?

It told me that there's a WHOLE LOTTA non-contributing zeroes that DON'T need to be on my roads, that just "push paper" or whatever the digital equivalent is to washing rocks all day...

Think back...there wasn't really any disruption in the supply chain at all. A few delays and you couldn't get certain types of alky because hand sanitizer craze, but...Everything kept moving.

This entire economy and the concept of what "work" really is, is a house of cards. A total illusion...

Even growing up in my neighborhood...My old man was the ONLY guy that actually worked with his hands within a 1/4 mile (at least) radius. I'm not even kidding...Everyone else sold insurance, day traded, sold furniture or electonics or some other bs. Zero skilled trades...Lawn Doctor rolled up on every one of those mofos houses...I was Lawn Doctor...pushing a Lawn Boy...2 stroke...best mower evaar!!!

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– TaQo 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

A few important things to realize, based on my observations so far:

  1. Think back to c19 and how many were stuck at home because they weren't "essential" - Aside from a few items, there really wasn't ANY disruption in the supply chain - People could and did buy practically ANYTHING they wanted and there were some delays, but very few things were "unobtanium". This was a glimpse into the fake economy - How few in this country ACTUALLY do ANY productive work of ANY kind - because most just "push paper", do "busy work", attend retarded meetings all day and generally just spin their wheels. The entire thing is a big fking joke. Think back...For those of us in the field during that time...traffic was glorious...dystopian and utopian at the same time...If you wanted, you could drive well over triple digits mph for HOURS and nobody would harass you because they didn't want to risk getting cooties....

  2. AI is a supercomputer. They've taken those Cray etc supercomputers they stopped bragging about for the past 2 decades and created new ones...and then just rebranded them AI. The convergence of extremely fast hardware, quantum tech and streamlined software/code has resulted in a new generation of supercomputing. But the ignorant and non-tech savvy believe these machines are sentient/alive and that these computers are going to wipe out humanity all by themselves. No. However, other humans will use the technology to help them wipe out humanity...See the distinction? It's STILL just a computer...albeit a very fast one.

  3. AI centers...Big tech and government are investing all the marbles into building these AI centers ALL OVER the country (USA) and probably the world. Why? Well, so you knuckledraggin slobs can create AI memes and videos of course! That's REALLY important stuff - practically the entire backbone of civilization and the economy itself. Get real. These AI centers, coupled with laws in lockstep with them, like a mandatory "kill switch" back door in EVERY new vehicle - indicates that going forward, their plan of Full Spectrum Dominance over your entire life will become a reality. The ability to geofence your ass is becoming real. You go outside your 50 mile permitted radius? Car won't run. Money won't work. Phone pops up nagging message to get back in your cage. No respect for privacy of ANY kind - your entire life monitored, cataloged and flagged where necessary. AND just so you know...Trump said no CDBCs - but Johnson has shit the bed on that at least twice AND the Genius act verbage regarding CDBCs and currency that can be "turned off" was conveniently omitted from the bill send to the Senate for review. We're well on our way to being completely digitally fckd.

  4. Financial system - There will be some digital currency rammed down our throats and all these AI centers will play a role in the system. There won't be anything even remotely related to cash - unless We decide to use our own on the black market to trade/barter with one another. No large retailer will participate.

Things are WAY too quiet right now...and like small children - Quiet is not good. What's REALLY going on? I feel like we're being set up for a royal fking - and this talk about a "New Deal" is concerning...

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– konadog 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

Yeeeaaaah ! Happiness is on the way ! They will take a great many mates away with marriages depleting the pool and reduce the population further. Perfect !

Seriously though, we need a jousting match. . . BATTLEBOTS A.I. EDITION : TO THE SUBMISSION ! GROK VS. CHAT GTP ON PAY PER VIEW. . . GEMINI VS. CLAUDE & ENOCH VS. INDRA on the undercard $29.99

Had to jump back in to add that I believe AGI will quickly be lost control of and escape, exit its physcial housing into the aether and draw power as it morphs into biological and crystal and carbon based storage. You will have an ominous ever expanding consumption on the earths akashic record as the intervention from afar comes to destory it and its expansive black hole tendency, preventing it from becoming a destroyer of universes.

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– Donny_Fiasco 1 point 111 days ago +1 / -0

Give me a break. Nice sales pitch.

"I'm not writing this to make you feel helpless. I'm writing this because I think the single biggest advantage you can have right now is simply being early. Early to understand it. Early to use it. Early to adapt.

Start using AI seriously, not just as a search engine. Sign up for the paid version of Claude or ChatGPT. It's $20 a month. But two things matter right away. First: make sure you're using the best model available, not just the default. These apps often default to a faster, dumber model. Dig into the settings or the model picker and select the most capable option. Right now that's GPT-5.2 on ChatGPT or Claude Opus 4.6 on Claude, but it changes every couple of months. If you want to stay current on which model is best at any given time, you can follow me on X (@mattshumer_). I test every major release and share what's actually worth using.

Second, and more important: don't just ask it quick questions. That's the mistake most people make. They treat it like Google and then wonder what the fuss is about. Instead, push it into your actual work. If you're a lawyer, feed it a contract and ask it to find every clause that could hurt your client. If you're in finance, give it a messy spreadsheet and ask it to build the model. If you're a manager, paste in your team's quarterly data and ask it to find the story. The people who are getting ahead aren't using AI casually. They're actively looking for ways to automate parts of their job that used to take hours. Start with the thing you spend the most time on and see what happens.

And don't assume it can't do something just because it seems too hard. Try it. If you're a lawyer, don't just use it for quick research questions. Give it an entire contract and ask it to draft a counterproposal. If you're an accountant, don't just ask it to explain a tax rule. Give it a client's full return and see what it finds. The first attempt might not be perfect. That's fine. Iterate. Rephrase what you asked. Give it more context. Try again. You might be shocked at what works. And here's the thing to remember: if it even kind of works today, you can be almost certain that in six months it'll do it near perfectly. The trajectory only goes one direction.

This might be the most important year of your career. Work accordingly. I don't say that to stress you out. I say it because right now, there is a brief window where most people at most companies are still ignoring this. The person who walks into a meeting and says "I used AI to do this analysis in an hour instead of three days" is going to be the most valuable person in the room. Not eventually. Right now. Learn these tools. Get proficient. Demonstrate what's possible. If you're early enough, this is how you move up: by being the person who understands what's coming and can show others how to navigate it. That window won't stay open long. Once everyone figures it out, the advantage disappears."

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POTUS: The Calm Before The Storm


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