The "name" is dead, but the "man" is likely very much alive. He is likely using a "borrowed ladder" of someone that did die, but the death was kept a secret. An LLC or CORP can "buy" the identity of individuals by paying the surviving family (if any) a licensing fee which requires NDA. Typically, the best candidate is someone with no surviving close family. The family typically does not know who will use the ID, and the payments stop if they squeal. This has been done since at least the 1920s by intelligence agencies (pioneered by MI-6 and its predecessors). [REF the 1997 movie 'Gattaca' for "borrowed ladder" exact meaning; note the timing is <2 years prior to JFK Jr. and could have been a "pre-seeding operation" for the many Patriots that needed to go undercover just prior to 9-11-2001]
Two interesting people with shady backstories in position to become future POTUS are JD Vance (current VP) and Mike Lindell (future MN Gov). The REAL JD Vance likely died in Iraq between Aug 2005 and early 2006, and it was probably kept secret so someone could step into his identity. Mike Lindell's stated "sobriety achievement date" of January 16, 2009 (after surviving on OD during the 2008 Christmas season) is quite odd, but is just less than 10 years from JFK Jr.'s "death" on July 16, 1999 (in fact it is 9 years and 6 months to the day). The REAL Mike Lindell likely died in 2008.
There is a movie from the 00s with Tom cruise and Cameron Diaz. Ton cruise is some sort of cia /black ops spy / agent whatever. About 3/4 way through the movie we find out that he was actually a military soldier who “died” in battle and gave his life away to be of higher service as a spy. But everyone who ever knew him knew him as deceased. So he was given a new identity and everything. At the end of the movie he tries to leave his spy handlers and him and Cameron Diaz move to the southern tip of South America lol
No. The name is dead, and the man will NOT be coming back AS JFK Jr. Also interpretable as "JFK Jr, the CORP entity vessel" rather than the "natural living man" is DEAD as we all are when using our ALL CAPS name (CORP vessel), established by our BERTH CERTIFICATE which is title to Social Security property collected from the "labor" of our CORP VESSEL body. Dead vessels dock at berths, have no rights, cannot own property, and cannot be legally harmed in any way because they are DEAD.
Living men are birthed and do not require a "birth certificate" per natural LAW.
EDIT: The information about JFK jr running for senate, coming from Trump’s mouth is HUGE. There has been a serious disinformation campaign for decades that has said he was never going to run and therefore was never a threat to Hildabeast.
I don't know why she makes a big deal about "he was going to put me on the magazine" and it happened after JFK Jr. died. That doesn't mean he was still alive, it just means they talked about it, and the mag made it happen after his death. So what? Doesn't mean anything by itself, but coupled with other interesting stuff about his death, I guess it COULD mean something. This is where people start to connect dots that aren't there. But COULD be, and wind goes out of sails. I don't know if that came out right, but the statement doesn't imply much of anything.
Something I noticed, back when there was heavy speculation that JFK Jr. might still be alive early during Q's posts. There was an extremely heavy-handed presence that existed during that time to shame anyone who would think JFK Jr. might still be alive.
We know the MSM used this tactic to attack Q, that we were gullible enough to think it ... but there were also many among us who pushed the same shaming tactic.
It got me thinking ... shaming is a democrat tactic. Shaming is also a bot tactic.
Patriots try to convince with evidence and reasoning, those with ulterior motives (who don't have the evidence or reasoning) go straight to shaming.
Take, for instance, the bonkers notion of flat earth. Yes, I would shame flat earthers for posting here -- does that make me a bot or using the same kind of democrat shaming tactics? No. Why?
Because I don't care if you believe in flat earth or not, I just don't want you posting that shit here. Its against the forum rules and it's forum sliding important posts off the top of the feed and replacing it with ridiculous bullshit.
It would never occur to me to seek out wherever the flat earthers like to post and try to convince them of their folly. I really don't care what other people think as long as you're not trying to taint me with your idiocy by posting it on the only forum I visit for my news, against forum rules.
Is it possible to prove that JFK Jr. is still alive or dead? No. Is it possible he could still be alive, trying to avoid getting assassinated like his father? Sure, sounds reasonable to me. Could this be the reason why Q mentioned him so much? Sure, sounds reasonable to me.
So why did so many consider it taboo to even consider it? Shaming others for the thought crime of thinking JFK Jr. might still be alive?
He might be alive, or dead, we don't know. There's nothing wrong with speculating he might still be alive. Those who were hell bent on parroting the MSM and shaming everyone who would even consider it -- bots or individuals pushing a psyop.
JFK Jr's death is really beyond debate. Everyone knows he is dead.
How would you know he's dead if he faked his death?
His family says so.
If JFK Jr. faked his death, because he thought the CIA would kill him just like they killed his father, would he even tell his family? If he did tell his family, why would they tell you anything that would nullify the point of faking his death?
The authorities say so.
OMG. Do you believe everything authorities tell you? The authorities told you they found the passports of the 9/11 plane bombers, case closed am I right?
Oh, and did I mention, Q said he was dead.
But would Q tell us the truth if it wasn't time for that to be told? Q also said the pentagon was actually hit by a plane and there are aliens. Maybe pattern recognition is supposed to give you a hint.
All of media.
The jab is safe and effective right? I mean the media told you that.
His friends.
The point of saving your own life by going underground probably means you're abandoning some friendships, but even if he told them all, why would they give away the secret?
The genesis of this lie was started to discredit us.
I thought it independent of anyone else mentioning it, just on Q's many posts about the relationship between JFK Jr. and Trump.
To this date, there's no better explanation for those posts that come to mind than perhaps he is still alive.
Which makes us all on this board, look like kooks to 99.99999999% of the planet
Hoping that someone isn't really dead isn't kook territory, sorry. But if you're on a mission to clean up the image of Q followers, let me see you make some more posts disassociating us from the Nazis that like to hang out here.
Zero evidence to support the claim he is alive.
Except that Q talked about him in an ambiguous way that led people to believe he's still alive, which was nearly ubiquitous at the time -- culminating in Q being asked the question in the first place.
Regardless, I don't know if he's alive or dead. My whole point is that it isn't taboo to speculate on it.
You protest far too loudly over something far too innocuous.
8 years into Q, where even the handshakes are mostly here 5+ years, and you're afraid a newcomer is going to think you're looney because I said JFK Jr. might still be alive?
They will have pegged you as a Nazi long before that, just from the random Jew hater comments that slip through in almost every thread.
I lived in Manhattan mid to late 90s and everyone had George magazine in their homes and apartments, my Dad had a subscription. Probably all still in a box somewhere here.i think it was a hot item back then and Trump speaking his comms talk “it was ok, I mean, I was on it” almost downplaying it so we look into it.
But also in Trump’s latest book ‘Letters to Trump’ on pages 30 & 31 (Senator Edward Kennedy) Trump writes of Kennedy: “I got to know Ted very well because of our relationship to Palm Beach, Florida. I helped him with something important and confidential to him and his family. My assistance made a big difference and he never forgot it.”
IMHO this is Trump acknowledging the fact that he helped the Kennedy family protect Jr, his wife and sister-in-law. Kicking off the most epic battle for humanity the world has ever witnessed in its history.
So, why all of a sudden is Trump mentioning this? First in the book and then at his rally? These are comms that are laying the foundation to the truth... John John is alive.
Tell me this isn’t direct comms about Junior without telling me it’s direct comms! And wtf? It sound kinda top secret to me... what was Ted/Trump hiding? The book is amazing btw and I do believe bread crumbs are sprinkled throughout all of Trump’s most recent books.
*edit: I’ve copied and pasted this comment from prior comments I’ve made years ago here on GAW.
I’d like to add, what if junior is still alive under the assistance of President Trump in a Trump owned property in Florida and needed something to occupy his time. Why wouldn’t he be (under an assumed name/pr uncredited) be a part of the team who are assembling/editing these books for Donald Trump?
That quip about helping Ted and the Kennedy family in the book and at his rallies has always oddly stood out to me.
Someone more autistic than me needs to check and see how many aviation mechanics that worked at the airport where Jr kept his plane mysteriously died within a month of Jr’s plane going down.
I always thought it made absolutely no sense whatsoever that the three bodies were "buried at sea" after having been recovered in an extensive operation. The only reason to do this is to prevent exhumation at a later date for identification purposes.
The logical conclusion is that JFK Jr. (and companions) were spirited off to an unknown location while news of their supposed "deaths" were released to the world.
That's not the only reason. The condition of the bodies and having sat in ocean water for as long as they were. Normal processes would have been impossible. And to keep things secret would also be problematic. That family has an image machine.
Choose one.
A solemn sea burial.
or
Stories of bodies ripped apart, soaking in sea water and nibbled by sea creatures.
Not saying this is the one, just that there is more than one explanation for actions post tragedy.
I remember stories saying he decided to run for Senate. Speculation the Clintons killed him. Foward 8 years, Ted Kennedy was the first to endorse Obama. Very early. It gave Obama legitimacy.
Wait,,,,, Trump was on the 47th edition??? GTFO—/-
Yeah,,, I totally missed that one🤯
AJ (TWF) was interviewing Eric Wargo today and Wargo brought up some precog stuff that happened before 9/11 and another that happened 14 years before the Titanic. Got me thinking about the Baron Trump books and how they might not be some weird 4thPOG ploy to mindfuck ppl, until today that is exactly what i thought about those books.
Flash forward to this evening and now I’m seriously considering those books could be legit😅..
Yeah,,, I know the Library of Congress lists them and some are listed online for sale, but those are all things some crafty spooks and military intel bros could easily pull off. I told my wife this evening if we hit big enough on our “”psyop investments” I’m buying those damn books!
I purchased reprints, not First Edition's, but you can get this complete set to have for now and can always look for originals if that's what you want. Here's a great deal:
JFK Jr named the magazine after George HW Bush as a troll. This is where Trump and JFK Jr have a striking similarity, their ability to troll others..
JFK Jr was daring the CIA to make a hit on him so he could in fact, fake his death, which he did.
The "name" is dead, but the "man" is likely very much alive. He is likely using a "borrowed ladder" of someone that did die, but the death was kept a secret. An LLC or CORP can "buy" the identity of individuals by paying the surviving family (if any) a licensing fee which requires NDA. Typically, the best candidate is someone with no surviving close family. The family typically does not know who will use the ID, and the payments stop if they squeal. This has been done since at least the 1920s by intelligence agencies (pioneered by MI-6 and its predecessors). [REF the 1997 movie 'Gattaca' for "borrowed ladder" exact meaning; note the timing is <2 years prior to JFK Jr. and could have been a "pre-seeding operation" for the many Patriots that needed to go undercover just prior to 9-11-2001]
Two interesting people with shady backstories in position to become future POTUS are JD Vance (current VP) and Mike Lindell (future MN Gov). The REAL JD Vance likely died in Iraq between Aug 2005 and early 2006, and it was probably kept secret so someone could step into his identity. Mike Lindell's stated "sobriety achievement date" of January 16, 2009 (after surviving on OD during the 2008 Christmas season) is quite odd, but is just less than 10 years from JFK Jr.'s "death" on July 16, 1999 (in fact it is 9 years and 6 months to the day). The REAL Mike Lindell likely died in 2008.
I will just say that I worked with an "in-law" to Mike and I would think he would have known if he was not with us in the loving...
Very Intriguing regarding Vance & Lindell...🧐
Is anyone who they say they are?
There is a movie from the 00s with Tom cruise and Cameron Diaz. Ton cruise is some sort of cia /black ops spy / agent whatever. About 3/4 way through the movie we find out that he was actually a military soldier who “died” in battle and gave his life away to be of higher service as a spy. But everyone who ever knew him knew him as deceased. So he was given a new identity and everything. At the end of the movie he tries to leave his spy handlers and him and Cameron Diaz move to the southern tip of South America lol
The first cover of George magazine was of Cindy Crawford dressed as George Washington.
That's well known, thank you
u/#q2611
lol do you really think Q would answer yes to that question
Yip. Q also said a plane hit the Pentagon in response to a query.
You mean like this?
u/#q2622
No. The name is dead, and the man will NOT be coming back AS JFK Jr. Also interpretable as "JFK Jr, the CORP entity vessel" rather than the "natural living man" is DEAD as we all are when using our ALL CAPS name (CORP vessel), established by our BERTH CERTIFICATE which is title to Social Security property collected from the "labor" of our CORP VESSEL body. Dead vessels dock at berths, have no rights, cannot own property, and cannot be legally harmed in any way because they are DEAD.
Living men are birthed and do not require a "birth certificate" per natural LAW.
If no means yes, then no means yes when Q was asked if the Earth was flat, too.
Maybe. "Flat Earth" moniker is a CIA psyop to hide something. We don't know exactly what yet, but discussion here on this topic will get us banned.
"If no means yes, then no means yes when Q was asked if the Earth was flat, too."
Bad argument. Q literally said that sometimes you have to use misinformation.
THIS^^
u/#q2611
He's dead. Q confirmed it.
His wife appeared at a Trump rally.
Anons confirmed it.
Hate to break it to you. She also has passed.
George magazine sold its first copies in September of 1995. Magazine folded in early 2001. Article with the details about JFK jr’s magazine. https://www.city-journal.org/article/jfk-jr-s-accidental-legacy
EDIT: The information about JFK jr running for senate, coming from Trump’s mouth is HUGE. There has been a serious disinformation campaign for decades that has said he was never going to run and therefore was never a threat to Hildabeast.
DJT on the 47th cover of the magazine??? Q said the "plan" started in 1999. A lot of coinkidinks!
u/#q1082
Absolutely!
I don't know why she makes a big deal about "he was going to put me on the magazine" and it happened after JFK Jr. died. That doesn't mean he was still alive, it just means they talked about it, and the mag made it happen after his death. So what? Doesn't mean anything by itself, but coupled with other interesting stuff about his death, I guess it COULD mean something. This is where people start to connect dots that aren't there. But COULD be, and wind goes out of sails. I don't know if that came out right, but the statement doesn't imply much of anything.
Something I noticed, back when there was heavy speculation that JFK Jr. might still be alive early during Q's posts. There was an extremely heavy-handed presence that existed during that time to shame anyone who would think JFK Jr. might still be alive.
We know the MSM used this tactic to attack Q, that we were gullible enough to think it ... but there were also many among us who pushed the same shaming tactic.
It got me thinking ... shaming is a democrat tactic. Shaming is also a bot tactic.
Patriots try to convince with evidence and reasoning, those with ulterior motives (who don't have the evidence or reasoning) go straight to shaming.
Take, for instance, the bonkers notion of flat earth. Yes, I would shame flat earthers for posting here -- does that make me a bot or using the same kind of democrat shaming tactics? No. Why?
Because I don't care if you believe in flat earth or not, I just don't want you posting that shit here. Its against the forum rules and it's forum sliding important posts off the top of the feed and replacing it with ridiculous bullshit.
It would never occur to me to seek out wherever the flat earthers like to post and try to convince them of their folly. I really don't care what other people think as long as you're not trying to taint me with your idiocy by posting it on the only forum I visit for my news, against forum rules.
Is it possible to prove that JFK Jr. is still alive or dead? No. Is it possible he could still be alive, trying to avoid getting assassinated like his father? Sure, sounds reasonable to me. Could this be the reason why Q mentioned him so much? Sure, sounds reasonable to me.
So why did so many consider it taboo to even consider it? Shaming others for the thought crime of thinking JFK Jr. might still be alive?
He might be alive, or dead, we don't know. There's nothing wrong with speculating he might still be alive. Those who were hell bent on parroting the MSM and shaming everyone who would even consider it -- bots or individuals pushing a psyop.
How would you know he's dead if he faked his death?
If JFK Jr. faked his death, because he thought the CIA would kill him just like they killed his father, would he even tell his family? If he did tell his family, why would they tell you anything that would nullify the point of faking his death?
OMG. Do you believe everything authorities tell you? The authorities told you they found the passports of the 9/11 plane bombers, case closed am I right?
But would Q tell us the truth if it wasn't time for that to be told? Q also said the pentagon was actually hit by a plane and there are aliens. Maybe pattern recognition is supposed to give you a hint.
The jab is safe and effective right? I mean the media told you that.
The point of saving your own life by going underground probably means you're abandoning some friendships, but even if he told them all, why would they give away the secret?
I thought it independent of anyone else mentioning it, just on Q's many posts about the relationship between JFK Jr. and Trump.
To this date, there's no better explanation for those posts that come to mind than perhaps he is still alive.
Hoping that someone isn't really dead isn't kook territory, sorry. But if you're on a mission to clean up the image of Q followers, let me see you make some more posts disassociating us from the Nazis that like to hang out here.
Except that Q talked about him in an ambiguous way that led people to believe he's still alive, which was nearly ubiquitous at the time -- culminating in Q being asked the question in the first place.
Regardless, I don't know if he's alive or dead. My whole point is that it isn't taboo to speculate on it.
You protest far too loudly over something far too innocuous.
8 years into Q, where even the handshakes are mostly here 5+ years, and you're afraid a newcomer is going to think you're looney because I said JFK Jr. might still be alive?
They will have pegged you as a Nazi long before that, just from the random Jew hater comments that slip through in almost every thread.
I laid out the Socratic method of how I came to my conclusion and you addressed none of it.
You know what they call it when you don't address a single argument and resort to name calling, right?
https://nitter.poast.org/i/status/2038359237550621101
I lived in Manhattan mid to late 90s and everyone had George magazine in their homes and apartments, my Dad had a subscription. Probably all still in a box somewhere here.i think it was a hot item back then and Trump speaking his comms talk “it was ok, I mean, I was on it” almost downplaying it so we look into it.
I bring this up every time there’s talk of J.F.K. Jr. - Trump even mentioned it at the rally in Council Bluffs, IA (07/07/2023) around the 40:00 mark https://rumble.com/v2yps32-full-speech-president-donald-j.-trump-holds-maga-rally-in-council-bluffs-ia.html
But also in Trump’s latest book ‘Letters to Trump’ on pages 30 & 31 (Senator Edward Kennedy) Trump writes of Kennedy: “I got to know Ted very well because of our relationship to Palm Beach, Florida. I helped him with something important and confidential to him and his family. My assistance made a big difference and he never forgot it.”
IMHO this is Trump acknowledging the fact that he helped the Kennedy family protect Jr, his wife and sister-in-law. Kicking off the most epic battle for humanity the world has ever witnessed in its history.
So, why all of a sudden is Trump mentioning this? First in the book and then at his rally? These are comms that are laying the foundation to the truth... John John is alive.
Tell me this isn’t direct comms about Junior without telling me it’s direct comms! And wtf? It sound kinda top secret to me... what was Ted/Trump hiding? The book is amazing btw and I do believe bread crumbs are sprinkled throughout all of Trump’s most recent books.
*edit: I’ve copied and pasted this comment from prior comments I’ve made years ago here on GAW.
I’d like to add, what if junior is still alive under the assistance of President Trump in a Trump owned property in Florida and needed something to occupy his time. Why wouldn’t he be (under an assumed name/pr uncredited) be a part of the team who are assembling/editing these books for Donald Trump?
That quip about helping Ted and the Kennedy family in the book and at his rallies has always oddly stood out to me.
Thank you for posting this again CS! It struck me to be a very odd comment at the time also! 👏
DASTING.
Someone more autistic than me needs to check and see how many aviation mechanics that worked at the airport where Jr kept his plane mysteriously died within a month of Jr’s plane going down.
I remembered that, I think from Q era! It was nice to hear it again...
So many people abuse and talk shxt about Trump, that it was physically painful to hear him say.. 3x "He actually liked me!"
Too bad - like he had to convince them of his friendship with JFK Jr!
Regarding JFK Jr. :
I always thought it made absolutely no sense whatsoever that the three bodies were "buried at sea" after having been recovered in an extensive operation. The only reason to do this is to prevent exhumation at a later date for identification purposes.
The logical conclusion is that JFK Jr. (and companions) were spirited off to an unknown location while news of their supposed "deaths" were released to the world.
That's not the only reason. The condition of the bodies and having sat in ocean water for as long as they were. Normal processes would have been impossible. And to keep things secret would also be problematic. That family has an image machine.
Choose one.
A solemn sea burial.
or
Stories of bodies ripped apart, soaking in sea water and nibbled by sea creatures.
Not saying this is the one, just that there is more than one explanation for actions post tragedy.
I remember stories saying he decided to run for Senate. Speculation the Clintons killed him. Foward 8 years, Ted Kennedy was the first to endorse Obama. Very early. It gave Obama legitimacy.
What was the point of this tweet?
Wait,,,,, Trump was on the 47th edition??? GTFO—/-
Yeah,,, I totally missed that one🤯
AJ (TWF) was interviewing Eric Wargo today and Wargo brought up some precog stuff that happened before 9/11 and another that happened 14 years before the Titanic. Got me thinking about the Baron Trump books and how they might not be some weird 4thPOG ploy to mindfuck ppl, until today that is exactly what i thought about those books.
Flash forward to this evening and now I’m seriously considering those books could be legit😅.. Yeah,,, I know the Library of Congress lists them and some are listed online for sale, but those are all things some crafty spooks and military intel bros could easily pull off. I told my wife this evening if we hit big enough on our “”psyop investments” I’m buying those damn books!
Time travel is fun...Q told us!
Time travel is fun. Or…. Q
u/#q3555
I bought a set of the Baron Trump books... they weren't expensive 6 years ago on eBay...
#3555 came to me about the time I learnt about the books, MIND BLOWN.
Did you get the old ones or the reprint?
I purchased reprints, not First Edition's, but you can get this complete set to have for now and can always look for originals if that's what you want. Here's a great deal:
https://ebay.us/m/eiWVcV
Thanks!
Of course fren!
Anyone have the tweet archived with this Q post?
💥Clinton’s killed every one who got in the way, some how they miss Trump, that said why aren’t the Clintons at the gallows?💥❌ps He was Murdered