I’ve heard the conspiracy that data centers don’t need this much water and it is to actually allocate water to the underground cities for the elites. But, I’m not really leaning into that one.
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Something is just not right with the speed and ferocity they're pushing these things in with...
What would be "right" if you are in a race? Things happen about ten times faster in the computing and software world than in the world of solid objects. Do you realize how fast developments proceeded in missile and rocket technology in the 1960s? We launched our first successful satellite (a tiny thing) in 1958. We landed men on the Moon in 1969. You don't win a race if you walk.
Yeah, desperation in trying to act dystopic plans out and as far as we know, not working as the suckers want or even more crappy planning - pay attention to anything dangerous incoming, fren...
That speed and ferocity is the only thing can push us all out of the clutches of the City of London forever. I made another comment on this.
Personally, I think its a psyop to get one to think water is scarce.
They use it for cooling...
They do not make the water disappear.
The water ends of back in the same water tributary or it evaporates and ends up in the county next door.
Think about it.....trace the water.
What if they used sea water to cool the data centers? Byproduct is salt and fresh water. Why not kill two birds with one stone?
Because we are the birds, and they don’t care about us birds until time for data centers or thanksgiving.
Genius Idea!
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I think you ask an important question and I think that the answer is fear.
Right now, American AI is providing targeting information to our military in Iran. Very soon, the US will be using AI powered drone fighters, with no human pilots, that fly in formation with human piloted aircraft and function as a single unit. Any country that falls behind in this technology doesn't stand a chance against a country that employs it. And this touches more than our military. A worker that uses AI can outperform anyone that isn't using it. It has a lot of potential for good, but it also has a lot of potential for bad. As a programmer, AI can already code circles around me.
As for the data centers themselves. I assume that you're reacting to their massive power needs. I think Texas has come up with the best solution that is available. That solution is to require that they build their own power generation so they don't overtax the existing grid.
It's very clear to me that we have a lot to think about related to AI and I hope that our best and brightest are doing exactly that.
And when they have enough power, water is not needed for cooling. How much water does your home AC use? Right. Water is only used for evaporative cooling for data centers because it is cheaper than electrical cooling.
They use water because it's very cheep,their are many other ways to cool them.
They don't really provide many jobs,giving them tax breaks is retarded.....
The need to pay the full cost of everything and not drive up cost or supply for locals.
And they are noisy, they should build that crap in remote areas.
Who, exactly, is saying they need water? The critics? What you need for massive computing is air conditioning. That is the way it has always been. (Think refrigerator.)
They are not providing jobs so much as they are providing economic productivity, through AI operation or development. Somebody is making a profit. What do they do with the income? Fill a money bin and swim around in it? It's called paying salaries of the corporate workforce and funding additional investment. (From the sound of it, the data centers would be costs of doing business, for research and services.)
Nobody is insisting on subsidies. Any enterprise investment will be a demand on goods and services. So, are we are to have no investment? The idea is that the economic productivity over time will return the investment multiple times over. This is called "bringing in business." Otherwise, why build a factory?
Why would they be noisy? Electronics are silent. Air conditioning is everywhere in metropolitan areas and no one complains about any noise, which is essentially absent. I've been in computer centers; they are noteworthy for the silence. (Only the whisper of air conditioning.) These are not wind turbines, to create acoustic pollution and disturb residents or animals.
Now, if they generate their own power (with any surplus to be added to the grid), they will have a large cooling requirement and, if water is available, it would be the least expensive approach. But if it is not available, air cooling is possible. (We use it all the time for automobile engines and domestic heat pumps.)
Methinks there may be too much Luddite paranoia afoot. A hard head brings steady nerves.
And then I remember that Water = comms for Info
Water is the main component of spit and blood, not to mention clouds and ocean. I wouldn't read too much into that equivalence. The whole point of communication is to reduce uncertainty about some proposition, not increase it (Claude Shannon, information theory).
As far as I can figure, fren, the only reason a computing center would need water is for drinking fountains and restrooms. I've been in them.
I believe that they may be an instrument for future population control, which explains China and Russia.
I've heard that USA wants about 5,000 of those things, multiples of what Russia and China have. Why?
Before we jump into datacenters, take a deep breathe and remember all the apocalyptic stories about 5G towers, then take a look at your phone and check your messages that came over the 5G network, and then exhale.
Take another deep breath, think about all the doom and gloom about "Robots will take over humans" in 80s and "Internet will destroy the youth" in the 90s, and look around to make sure we are all safe and sound, and exhale.
What the folks who keep telling you that the road to freedom is a currency backed by gold /silver, forget to tell you is that we started from there and almost ended up losing all the gold and silver in 70s, which is when Nixon had to push US off the gold standard, and the fresh round of hell started.
But the American forefathers knew the real secret for national prosperity. Its economic growth and innovation. Until the end of 1800s America was unstoppable because of the system known as The American System, where private capital creates economic prosperity, and the country issues currency backed by this prosperity to further the growth.
At any given point, whichever country can maximize the growth of the most cutting edge technologies is the defacto leader of he world, period. Right now we are at the cusp of technological revolution where computational power is the factor that affects prosperity more than anything.
Whichever country grows computational power will rule the world for the next 20-50 years.
Here is the sumple formula Trump is using.
Computational Power = Cheap energy + Building more datacenters + Onshoring chip manufacturing = American Prosperity.
If you want the freedom from the Cabal, there is absolutely no other path right now, than this simple formula unless someone comes up with a more cutting edge innovation that makes computational power obsolete.
Until that happens, please try not to get yourself fall for the fearmongering of the people who are desperately terrified of this plan succeeding.
Nothing good will come out of the data centers.
It is the tool that they'll use to eventually track, and enslave us all, regardless of the marketing slogans and pr campaigns. And they'll just do it, even if slowly.
Just how flock cameras pop up every where now without any form of representation. Without any review. You'll just accept it
The leading American companies building the most data centers are primarily hyperscale cloud providers (AWS, Microsoft, Meta, Google) driven by AI/cloud demand.
I smell rotten crap... Eyes very open because there's a bunch of evil, dystopic cards being attempted to be tossed at people...
We have none? We have one and several planned. It’s awful. Millions of gallons of water, electricity sucked up for these damn things. Electric costs doubling for consumers while data centers get breaks.Farm land destroyed! Do you want to eat or play video games?
Just asking a hypothetical question. All of these comments so far both pro and con are exactly the discussion I was wanting to see.
If Trump is trying to get in front of this neighborhood nightmare....what does THAT look like? Nothing Good for humanity will come from this type of tech...soooo OWN IT, control it, kick Globalism off the Earth, then demolish data BS, control you bull shit, FOREVER...IMO....These evil people know their time is short, so they are throwing everything they can at us....We The People AWAKE is their greatest FEAR.
Blackrock just came out strongly for them--and I believe eminent domain has been used for one at least.
I don't see much of a conspiracy besides what people openly talk about
We're consuming more video and AI, so have to build the hardware for it (aka data centers)
Can they be used for surveillance and other things we may not like? Yes, yes indeed
Something tinfoily but not is people developing AI may have "transhumanist" beliefs - they want to become "more than human", like "gods". AI gives us more intelligence, and God is all knowing, so having these greater capabilities via technology allows some to feel more like God. This is the old goal of Satan, to become "like God". In itself developing technology may not be wrong, but some of these things are probably driven by wrong motives.
There may be a desire to develop these tools and, in whatever way, "get rid of" the masses of "unnecessary" people who exist, whose jobs could be automated (via extermination or population decline via contraception).
I think more of these "openly obvious" schemes are more likely than covert schemes to steal water, however it's fine to speculate about covert goals that may seem less obvious.
Underground data centers and possibly to control the population by drawing out the water
Reposting this from another thread...
A few things are worth noting:
If you dug deep enough, you'll find these fall under military and national security
Trump already said he wanted the USA to be the largest BTC repository in the world paraphrasing
The "AI race" is allegedly the most important race right now, for several reasons, including implications regarding the ultimate "high ground" aka space
The Golden Dome missile defense system
Just imagine the illustrious "new financial system" where billions of transactions a day need to take place digitally... Don't you think that requires some serious infrastructure?
These "data centers" are not one trick ponies...I would imagine they cover surveillance, monetary infrastructure, golden dome/defense and other things.
I guess the biggest question we need to ask ourselves in this regard, is this:
Because if you don't...the demons that are being permitted to run wild with our imaginations are going to pull our outlook deep down into the bowels of hell with doom & dystopia.
I hear your fears, fren...I REALLY do! But take a step back and ask yourself if Trump's EVER done us wrong so far...I know given the track record of most humans that seems like a tall order, but Trump is an exceptional man.
These AI data centers are akin to a sharp knife...They can be used to help or harm, equally. Which one is partially up to us.
ALSO...Do you remember:
Y2K
Early days of the internet
5G, etc
u/#trumpflag
Also...Stephen Hawking