I remain supportive of Trump but he is starting to look like the boy who cried wolf with the Iranians. They continue to bluster and defy the cease fire conditions and they seem to have concluded that since the initial attacks, Trump has become all bark and no bite.
Couldnt disagree more. Any time trump is allowing time to pass, its happening to further his purpose. When trump unleashes the world will have zero room for complaint. But thos is as much about israel as it is iran. After all iran in its current diabolical format was set up to be israels thorn in the side, a thorn that required bilions of American dollars over the years to keepnisrael safe. A fake enemy to keep the check coming and the MIC churning out hardware.
This "war" is costing us billions and we can't control the Strait... It's just not logistically feasible. This is like Don Quixote against the windmills. Gas prices are still too high and the price at the pumps will cost the midterms
They are simply doing what they always do. Delay, stall, deny, lie, etc. We are not dealing with rational people the way we understand rational. They play a completely different game operating from a different mindset. It's the ME.
Correct. Trump has already dealt with this as a businessman, and as president has first term. You can literally read about his dealings with the Palestinians and their games in the book Breaking History.
Trump knows what he's doing. The game is probably already done, this is just all show.
Sounds like you've been listening to Glen Greenwald, Glen Diesen, Judge Napoliano, Larry Johnson, Jeffery Sacks, Redacted, and that bunch of sell outs.
It's the only thing they understand. But, it is part of their strategy to goad Trump into restarting widespread kinetic action. That would unify all the current waring factions within the regime against a common enemy. So far, Trump has not taken the bait.
I say just continue to allow them to destroy themselves and the US can stand back and keep a lid on the area while they are doing it. We have a safe corridor near the coast of Oman that we have been moving ships through with air cover just in case the rogue IRGC elements on the So coast decide to get frisky. CentCom posted today that ships are continuing to transit through this corridor.
It's interesting how Trump is handling the money issue. That sum that they are demanding right now, 6-7 billion I believe being held by Qatar, is tied to humanitarian stuff only. No handover of cash. They would have to purchase humanitarian goods like food and medicine that can be tracked. Trump was hinting that it would be American or other Western purchases. These goods also have to be purchased with American oversight. I think with the 300 billion there will also be strings to monitor the flow and what it is spent on. The regime is not very happy about the arrangements.
The $300b is just the approximate total of Iranian funds that are frozen in the banking system. It's not like we are giving them money. If they play ball we will unfreeze it.
Trump said it on live TV the other day....I'm surprised people aren't making the distinction clear when discussing the topic......Heck, who am I fooling. Not surprised at all. People are full retard on GAW now a days.
I think Trump means it. I fully expect to see Iran beaten into final submission, with zero leaders of the regime left alive, and to fill the power vacuum, Iranian people who have suffered under the regime.
Technically, Trump is negotiating with elements of the Islamic Republic's government under the Office of the Supreme Leader - the Foreign Minister, the President, and the Speaker of the Parliament. But, the real power lies with those who control the guns - the IRGC. They essentially mounted a coup after the Ayatollah was blown to pieces. However, the IRGC has not completely consolidated their power as they are also internally fractured and there are rogue nodes around the country.
Trump cannot deal with the IRGC partly because the IRGC is designated by the US as a terrorist group. We don't negotiate with terrorists. This makes negotiations difficult. The Islamic Republic is very close to being a failed state.
Business as usual in the ME. You punch me in the nose, I must punch you back.
What Iranian leaders? The regime is so fractured right now there really is no functioning government. Even the IRGC is fractured into different competing factions. The faction that Trump has been dealing with does not really control the country - its guns. They never really did.
With the help of the CCP, the IRGC decentralized its command and control in anticipation of American and Israeli attacks. That created IRGC CC nodes all over the country. Some more hardline that others. The node closest to the Strait is extremely hardline. They view any negotiation with the US as a great humiliation. They would rather die than suffer that humiliation.
I'm already there. Either bomb their country and turn it into a parking lot or kill the entirety of the leadership and be done with it. These bastards will never actually negotiate in good faith, because they aren't capable of it. They're garbage. Every time we draw a red line, they stomp over it, and we don't do squat, we look like weak idiots, just like we always have over there.
That's because they are islamists and they run their country with a rod of iron along with the Quran.
They don't want to lose their grip of control over their people especially their women by making them wear burkas every damn day of their life and their skin has never seen the light of day.
JD Rucker - Iran Walks Out for Kabuki Theater as the Peace Deal Stands on Shaky Ground
Iran spent Sunday in Switzerland doing what Iran always does at a negotiating table. It took the concessions, refused the photograph, and walked out the door.
President Trump has undertaken an impossible task. There is no way in hell the Iranian hardliners will ever comply with any peace agreement. It's simply never going to happen. The absolute only way there will ever be peace with Iran is if you utterly destroy the IRGC. You can't reason with animals like these. They would rather die than accept a peace deal, and we should give them exactly what they want.
Why do to them what they are already doing to themselves? If the US resumes strikes, they will simply crawl back into their bunkers. That is how they managed to survive this long. It would also unify them - which at present they are not. They are fighting with each other. Never interfere with an enemy in the process of destroying themselves.
It is an absolute shit show right now within the regime. No one group really has consolidated control and they are turning on each other. Their public support, what little of it there is in Iran, is also turning on them. Their social media posts are quite entertaining. You are right in that they would rather die than to suffer the humiliation of a peace deal or giving up their nuclear. Humiliation is their Achilles heel. Bombs do not humiliate them. A peace deal does. They want revenge for the loss of the Ayatollah and Soleimani. That has not happened. Trump is still walking around and elements of the government are negotiating with the person responsible. That is humiliation.
I remain supportive of Trump but he is starting to look like the boy who cried wolf with the Iranians. They continue to bluster and defy the cease fire conditions and they seem to have concluded that since the initial attacks, Trump has become all bark and no bite.
Couldnt disagree more. Any time trump is allowing time to pass, its happening to further his purpose. When trump unleashes the world will have zero room for complaint. But thos is as much about israel as it is iran. After all iran in its current diabolical format was set up to be israels thorn in the side, a thorn that required bilions of American dollars over the years to keepnisrael safe. A fake enemy to keep the check coming and the MIC churning out hardware.
This "war" is costing us billions and we can't control the Strait... It's just not logistically feasible. This is like Don Quixote against the windmills. Gas prices are still too high and the price at the pumps will cost the midterms
They are simply doing what they always do. Delay, stall, deny, lie, etc. We are not dealing with rational people the way we understand rational. They play a completely different game operating from a different mindset. It's the ME.
Correct. Trump has already dealt with this as a businessman, and as president has first term. You can literally read about his dealings with the Palestinians and their games in the book Breaking History.
Trump knows what he's doing. The game is probably already done, this is just all show.
Is my empty wallet part of the show?
I agree. It is quite amusing to watch them tear each other apart. The humiliation is accomplishing far more than bombs ever could.
Really?
Sounds like you've been listening to Glen Greenwald, Glen Diesen, Judge Napoliano, Larry Johnson, Jeffery Sacks, Redacted, and that bunch of sell outs.
It's a trap. (I can't believe this modus operandi still works)
Good to see we’re getting back to good old fashioned gunboat diplomacy
It's the only thing they understand. But, it is part of their strategy to goad Trump into restarting widespread kinetic action. That would unify all the current waring factions within the regime against a common enemy. So far, Trump has not taken the bait.
I say just continue to allow them to destroy themselves and the US can stand back and keep a lid on the area while they are doing it. We have a safe corridor near the coast of Oman that we have been moving ships through with air cover just in case the rogue IRGC elements on the So coast decide to get frisky. CentCom posted today that ships are continuing to transit through this corridor.
We don't want to have to give them more money. $300b is enough!
It's interesting how Trump is handling the money issue. That sum that they are demanding right now, 6-7 billion I believe being held by Qatar, is tied to humanitarian stuff only. No handover of cash. They would have to purchase humanitarian goods like food and medicine that can be tracked. Trump was hinting that it would be American or other Western purchases. These goods also have to be purchased with American oversight. I think with the 300 billion there will also be strings to monitor the flow and what it is spent on. The regime is not very happy about the arrangements.
"The regime is not very happy about the arrangements"
Couldn't agree more.
The $300b is just the approximate total of Iranian funds that are frozen in the banking system. It's not like we are giving them money. If they play ball we will unfreeze it.
Thanks for saying this out loud.
Trump said it on live TV the other day....I'm surprised people aren't making the distinction clear when discussing the topic......Heck, who am I fooling. Not surprised at all. People are full retard on GAW now a days.
I think Trump means it. I fully expect to see Iran beaten into final submission, with zero leaders of the regime left alive, and to fill the power vacuum, Iranian people who have suffered under the regime.
That's unfortunately not the way war works. People know who's bombs killed their family. They don't gaf why.
...doggy winks...
If you are trying to have meaningful communication with someone you must do so in a language they understand.
I don't debate the benefits of shitting outside to my dog.
Edit: Also, they keep saying they are negotiating with "Iran" when they are actually dealing with the IRGC. Big difference.
Technically, Trump is negotiating with elements of the Islamic Republic's government under the Office of the Supreme Leader - the Foreign Minister, the President, and the Speaker of the Parliament. But, the real power lies with those who control the guns - the IRGC. They essentially mounted a coup after the Ayatollah was blown to pieces. However, the IRGC has not completely consolidated their power as they are also internally fractured and there are rogue nodes around the country.
Trump cannot deal with the IRGC partly because the IRGC is designated by the US as a terrorist group. We don't negotiate with terrorists. This makes negotiations difficult. The Islamic Republic is very close to being a failed state.
Iranian leaders need to get a handle on all of their military units within range of the strait.
By the way: Trump is just talking their language. It will seem strange to most.
Business as usual in the ME. You punch me in the nose, I must punch you back.
What Iranian leaders? The regime is so fractured right now there really is no functioning government. Even the IRGC is fractured into different competing factions. The faction that Trump has been dealing with does not really control the country - its guns. They never really did.
With the help of the CCP, the IRGC decentralized its command and control in anticipation of American and Israeli attacks. That created IRGC CC nodes all over the country. Some more hardline that others. The node closest to the Strait is extremely hardline. They view any negotiation with the US as a great humiliation. They would rather die than suffer that humiliation.
Why do I get "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" vibes with this Iran/ US spectacle?
Warning at some point we're not going to take this seriously or care anymore.
I'm already there. Either bomb their country and turn it into a parking lot or kill the entirety of the leadership and be done with it. These bastards will never actually negotiate in good faith, because they aren't capable of it. They're garbage. Every time we draw a red line, they stomp over it, and we don't do squat, we look like weak idiots, just like we always have over there.
That's because they are islamists and they run their country with a rod of iron along with the Quran. They don't want to lose their grip of control over their people especially their women by making them wear burkas every damn day of their life and their skin has never seen the light of day.
JD Rucker - Iran Walks Out for Kabuki Theater as the Peace Deal Stands on Shaky Ground
Iran spent Sunday in Switzerland doing what Iran always does at a negotiating table. It took the concessions, refused the photograph, and walked out the door.
https://jdrucker.substack.com/p/iran-walks-out-for-kabuki-theater
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I wish DJT would follow through and go ahead and take over the country. He's going to have to do it eventually anyway.
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2068704022354067659?s=20
who broke the peace deal?
He knows unless oil prices drop significantly his midterms are fucked and any chance for justice will be gone forever
Your retardation and inability to budget is definitely not just show
President Trump has undertaken an impossible task. There is no way in hell the Iranian hardliners will ever comply with any peace agreement. It's simply never going to happen. The absolute only way there will ever be peace with Iran is if you utterly destroy the IRGC. You can't reason with animals like these. They would rather die than accept a peace deal, and we should give them exactly what they want.
Why do to them what they are already doing to themselves? If the US resumes strikes, they will simply crawl back into their bunkers. That is how they managed to survive this long. It would also unify them - which at present they are not. They are fighting with each other. Never interfere with an enemy in the process of destroying themselves.
It is an absolute shit show right now within the regime. No one group really has consolidated control and they are turning on each other. Their public support, what little of it there is in Iran, is also turning on them. Their social media posts are quite entertaining. You are right in that they would rather die than to suffer the humiliation of a peace deal or giving up their nuclear. Humiliation is their Achilles heel. Bombs do not humiliate them. A peace deal does. They want revenge for the loss of the Ayatollah and Soleimani. That has not happened. Trump is still walking around and elements of the government are negotiating with the person responsible. That is humiliation.