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427windsorman 4 points ago +4 / -0

It is treason if they are elected / appointed in office and betrayed the Constitution and their oath. That is according to the Founding Fathers. I will take their definition since they established our Constitutional Republic. They were inspired by many great minds and philosophy's of the past.

“To say that subjects in general are not proper judges (of the law) when their governors oppress them and play the tyrant, and when they defend their rights ...is as great a treason as ever a man uttered... (more)” ~ Jonathan Mayhew (1720-1766) Founding Father, clergyman, minister

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.) Roman Statesman, Philosopher and Orator

“I must own, I know not what Treason is, if sapping and betraying the liberties of a people be not treason, in the eternal and original Nature of Things.” ~ Cato John Trenchard (1662-1723) & Thomas Gordon (169?-1750) Reflections upon Libelling, June 10, 1721. Ref: Cato's Letters; or Essays on liberty, pg 249. (1737)

“In short, it is the greatest Absurdity to suppose it in the Power of one or any Number of Men, at the entering into Society, to renounce their essential natural Rights or the Means of preserving those Rights, when the grand End of civil Government, from the very Nature of its Institution, is for the Support, Protection and Defense of those very Rights: The principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.” ~ Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution."

“I would not be beholden to a tyrant, for his acts of tyranny. For it is but usurpation in him to save, as their rightful lord, the lives of men over whom he has no title to reign.” ~ Cato the Younger

“Nothing can destroy a government more quickly than its failure to observe its own laws, or worse, its disregard of the charter of its own existence.” ~ Justice Tom C. Clark (1899-1977) US Attorney General, 1945-1949, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, 1949-1967

“Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President

“For the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State (that is to say, of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President

“It will be of little avail to the people, that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man, who knows what the law is today, can guess what it will be tomorrow. Law is defined to be a rule of action; but how can that be a rule, which is little known, and less fixed?” ~ James Madison(1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President Federalist Papers 62

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427windsorman 18 points ago +18 / -0

We do not need government to let us do anything. We need to tell government this is what YOU are going to do.

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427windsorman 5 points ago +5 / -0

If people put the same importance on their vote as their own heartbeat, we would not suffer our servants in government stealing our right to vote. Your vote is as sacred as your life. Our founders understood this principle when they established our Constitutional Republic.

My belief is that we need to make any election tampering, illegal voting, voter suppression, or vote stealing a capital offense again. The reason is that our right to vote is as sacred as our right to life, right to property, and right to pursue happiness.

By the start of the American Revolution, the death penalty was used in all 13 colonies. The colonies had comparable death statutes which covered arson, piracy, treason, murder, sodomy, burglary, robbery, rape, horse-stealing, slave rebellion, and often counterfeiting. Hanging was the usual sentence.

The Founding Fathers intended to allow for the death penalty in drawing up the US Constitution. Not only did certain provisions of the Constitution - such as the Fifth Amendment - expressly allow for the taking of life, but others - such as the Eighth Amendment - were deliberately phrased in ambiguous ways that suggested even if certain forms of punishment could be banned (such as crucifixions or beheadings) the basic principle of government executions remained permissible if individual states and the federal government wished to legislate for these.

The First Congress adopted the Punishment of Crimes Act, the first listing of federal crimes and their punishment. Crimes punishable by death included: treason, counterfeiting of federal records, disfigurement, and robbery committed in federal jurisdictions or on the high seas.

The first Americans considered election tampering to be a form of treason.

I guarantee that our elections would be as secure as they can be if the penalty for tampering with our elections was death.

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427windsorman 8 points ago +8 / -0

I agree 100%. If people put the same importance on their vote as their own heartbeat, we would not suffer our servants in government stealing our right to vote. Your vote is as sacred as your life. Our founders understood this principle when they established our Constitutional Republic.

My belief is that we need to make any election tampering, illegal voting, voter suppression, or vote stealing a capital offense again. The reason is that our right to vote is as sacred as our right to life, right to property, and right to pursue happiness.

By the start of the American Revolution, the death penalty was used in all 13 colonies. The colonies had comparable death statutes which covered arson, piracy, treason, murder, sodomy, burglary, robbery, rape, horse-stealing, slave rebellion, and often counterfeiting. Hanging was the usual sentence.

The Founding Fathers intended to allow for the death penalty in drawing up the US Constitution. Not only did certain provisions of the Constitution - such as the Fifth Amendment - expressly allow for the taking of life, but others - such as the Eighth Amendment - were deliberately phrased in ambiguous ways that suggested even if certain forms of punishment could be banned (such as crucifixions or beheadings) the basic principle of government executions remained permissible if individual states and the federal government wished to legislate for these.

The First Congress adopted the Punishment of Crimes Act, the first listing of federal crimes and their punishment. Crimes punishable by death included: treason, counterfeiting of federal records, disfigurement, and robbery committed in federal jurisdictions or on the high seas.

The first Americans considered election tampering to be a form of treason.

I guarantee that our elections would be as secure as they can be if the penalty for tampering with our elections was death.

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427windsorman 1 point ago +1 / -0

If people put the same importance on their vote as their own heartbeat, we would not suffer our servants in government stealing our right to vote. Your vote is as sacred as your life. Our founders understood this principle when they established our Constitutional Republic.

My belief is that we need to make any election tampering, illegal voting, voter suppression, or vote stealing a capital offense again. The reason is that our right to vote is as sacred as our right to life, right to property, and right to pursue happiness.

By the start of the American Revolution, the death penalty was used in all 13 colonies. The colonies had comparable death statutes which covered arson, piracy, treason, murder, sodomy, burglary, robbery, rape, horse-stealing, slave rebellion, and often counterfeiting. Hanging was the usual sentence.

The Founding Fathers intended to allow for the death penalty in drawing up the US Constitution. Not only did certain provisions of the Constitution - such as the Fifth Amendment - expressly allow for the taking of life, but others - such as the Eighth Amendment - were deliberately phrased in ambiguous ways that suggested even if certain forms of punishment could be banned (such as crucifixions or beheadings) the basic principle of government executions remained permissible if individual states and the federal government wished to legislate for these.

The First Congress adopted the Punishment of Crimes Act, the first listing of federal crimes and their punishment. Crimes punishable by death included: treason, counterfeiting of federal records, disfigurement, and robbery committed in federal jurisdictions or on the high seas.

The first Americans considered election tampering to be a form of treason.

I guarantee that our elections would be as secure as they can be if the penalty for tampering with our elections was death.

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427windsorman 5 points ago +5 / -0

When the SCOTUS Justices fail to interpret the Constitution according to its intent and meaning at the time of our Founders, they are failing in their purpose, and must be removed from the bench as unfit for the duties required.

What is the significance of the U.S. Constitution? It is, literally, the charter of its own existence. Without the Constitution, the government is a power without a right. It cannot act or operate outside of its charter, period.

“Where the words of a constitution are unambiguous and in their commonly received sense lead to a reasonable conclusion, it should be read according to the natural and most obvious import of the framers, without resorting to subtle and forced construction for the purpose of limiting or extending its operation.” ~ A State Ex Rel. Torryson v. Grey A State Ex Rel. Torryson v. Grey, 21 Nev. 378, 32 P. 190.

“In the United States, Sovereignty resides in the people, who act through the organs established by the Constitution.” ~ Chisholm v. Georgia Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall 419, 471

“Under our form of government, the legislature is not supreme ... like other departments of government, it can only exercise such powers as have been delegated to it, and when it steps beyond that boundary, its acts, like those of the most humble magistrate in the state who transcends his jurisdiction, are utterly void.” ~ Billings v. Hall 7 CA 1

“In my judgment the people of no nation can lose their liberty so long as a Bill of Rights like ours survives and its basic purposes are conscientiously interpreted, enforced and respected so as to afford continuous protection against old, as well as new, devices and practices which might thwart those purposes. I fear to see the consequences of the Court's practice of substituting its own concepts of decency and fundamental justice for the language of the Bill of Rights as its point of departure in interpreting and enforcing that Bill of Rights.” ~ Justice Hugo L. Black (1886-1971) US Supreme Court Justice Adamson v. California, 332 U.S. 46, 89 (Dissent) (1947)

“The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges’ views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice. I have no fear of constitutional amendments properly adopted, but I do fear the rewriting of the Constitution by judges under the guise of interpretation.” ~ Justice Hugo L. Black (1886-1971) US Supreme Court Justice Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

“The Framers of the Bill of Rights did not purport to “create” rights. Rather they designed the Bill of Rights to prohibit our Government from infringing rights and liberties presumed to be preexisting.” ~ Justice William J. Brennan (1906-1997) U. S. Supreme Court Justice 1982

“The right to revolt has sources deep in our history.” ~ William O. Douglas (1898-1980), U. S. Supreme Court Justice An Almanac of Liberty, 1954

“The strength of the constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are constitutional rights secure.” ~ Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921

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427windsorman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Your right to vote is as sacred as your life. The founders of our Republic knew this, and enshrined it alongside your unalienable right to life, right to property, and the pursuit of happiness. Defend them as you would your own life, because, in fact, they are.

If people put the same importance on their vote as their own heartbeat, we would not suffer our servants in government stealing our right to vote. Your vote is as sacred as your life. Our founders understood this principle when they established our Constitutional Republic.

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427windsorman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah yes, truth. Funny how everyone is always asking for it but when they get it they don't believe it because it's not the truth they want to hear.

“A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize truth, either in himself or in anyone else, and he ends up losing respect for himself and for others. When he has no respect for anyone, he can no longer love, and in him, he yields to his impulses, indulges in the lowest form of pleasure, and behaves in the end like an animal in satisfying his vices. And it all comes from lying to others and to yourself.” ~ Fyodor Dostoyevsky (1821-1881) The Brothers Karamazov

“There are in fact four very significant stumblingblocks in the way of grasping the truth, which hinder every man however learned, and scarcely allow anyone to win a clear title to wisdom, namely, the example of weak and unworthy authority, longstanding custom, the feeling of the ignorant crowd, and the hiding of our own ignorance while making a display of our apparent knowledge.” ~ Roger Bacon (1220-1292) Opus Majus, 1266-67

“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -- that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Buddha [Gautama Siddharta] (563 - 483 BC), Hindu Prince, founder of Buddhism

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” ~ John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President 'Argument in Defense of the Soldiers in the Boston Massacre Trials,' December 1770

“The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear.” ~ Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) American journalist and historian, editor of the Louisville Courier-Journal. The Time for Greatness, 1942

“Men prefer to believe what they prefer to be true.” ~ Francis Bacon (1561-1626) Philosopher, British Lord Chancellor

“A truth that's told with bad intent, beats all the lies you can invent.” ~ William Blake (1757-1827) English poet, painter, engraver "Auguries of Innocence," Poems from the Pickering Manuscript

“We must abandon the prevalent belief in the superior wisdom of the ignorant.” ~ Daniel Boorstin (1914-2004) American historian, professor, attorney, writer, Librarian of the United States Congress (1975-1987)

“The mortalist enemy unto knowledge, and that which hath done the greatest execution unto truth, has been a preemptory adhesion unto authority.” ~ Sir Thomas Browne (1605-1682) Religio Medici, 1642

“By academic freedom I understand the right to search for truth and to publish and teach what one holds to be true. This right implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true.” ~ Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921 Letter on his seventy-fifth birthday, 1954

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427windsorman 2 points ago +2 / -0

I believe they will do a number of things in coordination.

They will attempt to bar Trump from taking office They will spark riots using ANTIFA and BLM They will spark riots using illegals They will give the go to the terrorists they allowed in to attack American targets They will arrest any patriots that speak up or stand up They will shut down travel, communication, power, etc

I think you need to have a supply of food, water, medicine, arms, and ammunition to be ready for whatever the storm brings.

I also think everyone that can, should form local community militia's designed to defend and protect their local communities and people. Those, if possible, should be coordinated with other militia's in the region so there is a common defense and mutual collaborative support.

I feel people need to stand together so members of their families and communities cannot be taken away by government for speaking out or standing up. Should be like how people protected the Bundy Ranch from government tyranny.

In the end, we need to do what our Founding Fathers intended for us to do if tyranny started taking over our Republic.

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427windsorman 5 points ago +5 / -0

Why ever go back? Dunkin Donuts lost itself many years ago. It has not had great donuts since the 1980's, possibly early 90's. There are plenty of Mom & Pop donut shops around the country that have much better donuts, coffee, and food.

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427windsorman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Government has NO authority to authorize deadly force against Americans, period. DoD Directive 5240.01 is unconstitutional, and not a power granted to government through the Constitution.

According to the Declaration of Independence, humans are “endowed by their Creator” with “certain unalienable rights,” especially “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". The Declaration explains that the very purpose of government is to protect these rights. Furthermore, it says that the people have the right to “alter or abolish” governments to protect these rights, and even to rebel against a government that systematically and consistently violated the people’s rights.

The “rule of law” is the idea that a consistent, and evenly applied set of rules, rather than the arbitrary will of those in power, binds all the members of society. These laws must be made by proper procedures and published in advance of their enforcement.

The binding nature of law means everyone—not just citizens, but the government—must follow and obey the law. Indeed, lawmakers, judges, and officers of federal and state governments must take a specific oath to faithfully follow the U.S. Constitution.

DoD Directive 5240.01 is government failing to obey and follow the law. it is government betraying their oath's, as well as the Constitution by ignoring the limits of the power granted to it.

“The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded.” ~ Charles-Louis De Secondat (1689-1755) Baron de Montesquieu The Spirit of the Laws, 1748

“Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it.” ~ John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President Thoughts on Government, 1776

“In short, it is the greatest Absurdity to suppose it in the Power of one or any Number of Men, at the entering into Society, to renounce their essential natural Rights or the Means of preserving those Rights, when the grand End of civil Government, from the very Nature of its Institution, is for the Support, Protection and Defense of those very Rights: The principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.” ~ Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution." The Votes and Proceedings of the Freeholders and Other Inhabitants of the Town of Boston in Town Meeting Assembled, According to Law. Published by Order of the Town. Nov 20 1772

“Under our form of government, the legislature is not supreme ... like other departments of government, it can only exercise such powers as have been delegated to it, and when it steps beyond that boundary, its acts, like those of the most humble magistrate in the state who transcends his jurisdiction, are utterly void.” ~ Billings v. Hall

“History is clear that the first ten amendments to the Constitution were adopted to secure certain common law rights of the people, against invasion by the Federal Government.” ~ Bell v. Hood Bell v. Hood, 71 F. Supp., 813, 816 (1947) U.S.D.C., So. Dist. CA

“Government has within it a tendency to abuse its powers.” ~ John C. Calhoun (1782-1850) American statesman

“Who are a free people? Not those over whom government is exercised, but those who live under a government so constitutionally checked and controlled that proper provision is made against its being otherwise exercised.” ~ John Dickenson (1732-1808) Farmer’s Letters, 1767

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427windsorman 3 points ago +3 / -0

I would rather see the original inventors and their families benefiting from the fruits of their labors. Government stole almost all technology they possess.

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427windsorman 6 points ago +6 / -0

Send in the National Guard to open the additional locations and guard them from interference during the election cycle. They can provide transportation to those unable to get there any other way, as well.

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427windsorman 5 points ago +5 / -0

Seriously? It is a game. Games are meant to be fun. Too may BS rules and too little focus on the fact that it is just a game.

This is exactly why I quit following pro and college sports years ago. I will take a high school game over either of those any day of the week.

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427windsorman 2 points ago +2 / -0

“The Constitution is a written instrument. As such it's meaning does not alter. That which it meant when adopted, it means now.” ~ United States Supreme Court South Carolina vs. United States (1905)

“We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land -- nor, perhaps, the sun or stars. But there is a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey. That chart is the Constitution.” ~ Daniel Webster (1782-1852) US Senator

“It would be thought a hard government that should tax its people one tenth part.” ~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) US Founding Father

“The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President

“When you run in debt; you give to another power over your liberty.” ~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) US Founding Father

“Any single man must judge for himself whether circumstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate; we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers. This political judgment, moreover, is not simply or primarily a right, but like self-preservation, a duty to God. As such it is a judgment that men cannot part with according to the God of Nature. It is the first and foremost of our inalienable rights without which we can preserve no other.” ~ John Locke (1632-1704) English philosopher and political theorist

“It is true, the yeomanry of the country possess the lands, the weight of property, possess arms, and are too strong a body of men to be openly offended—and, therefore, it is urged, they will take care of themselves, that men who shall govern will not dare pay any disrespect to their opinions. It is easily perceived, that if they have not their proper negative upon passing laws in congress, or on the passage of laws relative to taxes and armies, they may in twenty or thirty years be by means imperceptible to them, totally deprived of that boasted weight and strength: This may be done in great measure by congress.” ~ Richard Henry Lee (1732-1794) Founding Father Letters From The Federal Farmer (1787)

“Governors have no Right to seek and take what they please; by this, instead of being content with the Station assigned them, that of honorable Servants of the Society, they would soon become Absolute Masters, Despots, and Tyrants. Hence, as a private Man has a Right to say what Wages he will give in his private Affairs, so has a Community to determine what they will give and grant of their Substance for the Administration of public Affairs.” ~ Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution." The Votes and Proceedings of the Freeholders and Other Inhabitants of the Town of Boston in Town Meeting Assembled, According to Law. Published by Order of the Town. Nov 20 1772

“Let Mr. Madison tell me when did liberty ever exist when the sword and the purse were given up from the people? Unless a miracle shall interpose, no nation ever did, nor ever can retain its liberty after the loss of the sword and the purse.” ~ Patrick Henry (1736-1799) US Founding Father 3 J. Elliot, The Debates In The Several States Conventions On The Adoption Of The Federal Constitution 168-69 (1836 Reprinted 1941).

“A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicity.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President First Inaugural Address; March 4, 1801

“Taxes should be continued by annual or biennial reenactments, because a constant hold, by the nation, of the strings of the public purse is a salutary restraint from which an honest government ought not wish, nor a corrupt one to be permitted, to be free.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President

“We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds...[we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for[ another]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Letter to Samuel Kercheval, Monticello, July 12, 1816

“I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the rich, are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers. Our land-holders, too, like theirs, retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs but held really in trust for the treasury, must wander, like theirs, in foreign countries, and be contented with penury, obscurity, exile, and the glory of the nation. This example reads to us the salutary lesson, that private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagances. And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for the second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Letter to Samuel Kercheval, Monticello, July 12, 1816

“To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, 1779.

“To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Note in Tracy's "Political Economy," 1816

“It is very certain that [the commerce clause] grew out of the abuse of the power by the importing States in taxing the non-importing, and was intended as a negative and preventive provision against injustice among the States themselves, rather than as a power to be used for the positive purposes of the General Government.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President letter dated February 13, 1829

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President 1792, in disapproval of Congress appropriating $15,000 to assist some French refugees

“Government ought to be as much open to improvement as anything which appertains to man, instead of which it has been monopolized from age to age, by the most ignorant and vicious of the human race. Need we any other proof of their wretched management, than the excess of debts and taxes with which every nation groans, and the quarrels into which they have precipitated the world?” ~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809) US Founding father, pamphleteer, author

“Government does not tax to get the money it needs; government always finds a need for the money it gets.” ~ Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) 40th US President

“It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848 "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat (1848)

“If Congress sees fit to impose a capitation, or other direct tax, it must be laid in proportion to the census; if Congress determines to impose duties, imposts, and excises, they must be uniform throughout the United States. These are not strictly limitations of power. They are rules prescribing the mode in which it shall be exercised. ... This review shows that personal property, contracts, occupations, and the like have never been regarded by Congress as proper subjects of direct tax.” ~ Salmon P. Chase (1808-1873) U.S. Senator from Ohio, 23rd Governor of Ohio, U.S. Treasury Secretary under President Abraham Lincoln, 6th Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court As Chief Justice delivering the opinion of the Court in Veazie Bank v. Fenno, 76 U.S. 8 Wallace 533 (1869)

“Beware the greedy hand of government, thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry.” ~ Thomas Paine (1737-1809) US Founding father, pamphleteer, author

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427windsorman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why increase anything? Eliminate all programs and agencies not authorized by the State Constitutions, or in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Eliminate welfare, force government to scale back, and operate within a tight, Constitutional budget.

Eliminate all property taxes. One of our fundamental rights is the right to own our property.

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427windsorman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Our Republic was established without an income tax. At least, one like we see today. If you return the federal government back to the size and scope it was intended, and is limited to by the Constitution, then there is no need for any income tax. Tariffs and interstate commerce will fund it without any problems. Eliminate all welfare, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, all agencies and programs not specifically authorized by the Constitution, Eliminate the Federal Reserve, eliminate fiat currency and return to gold and silver coins. Reduce the military to a much smaller force, and repeal all laws infringing on weapons ownership, weapons carry, and laws infringing on forming local militia's.

That is a good start.

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427windsorman 2 points ago +2 / -0

That is simply untrue about over 1 million of them being able to stay without fear of deportation. If they are given "Amnesty" by an illegitimate government, or by fraudulent and nefarious methods, then the amnesty is null and void.

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427windsorman 4 points ago +4 / -0

Of course there is a way. That's how our Republic was founded. Taxes were paid by people who worked for government, and were also voluntary for anyone else. Tariffs on foreign trade made up the majority of the revenue to run the federal government. If government were operating within the strict limits of the Constitution, there would be minimal cost to run it. There is no need to tax Americans at all.

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427windsorman 1 point ago +1 / -0

Actually, it absolutely matters. The founders knew what tyranny was, and that it would reappear. That is why they were very clear on what needed to be done about it. We allowed them to corrupt the courts, grand jury, and juries, we allowed them to corrupt the SCOTUS, we allowed the legislature and the executive branch go corrupt, but that doesn't matter. Without the Constitution, the government is a power without a right.

Americans are the source of their limited powers, period. We do not need their permission to fix it. We simply need to come together and take the reigns of government back.

Perhaps the White hats are going to do that for us. If so, so much the better.

Regardless, the principles our Republic was founded upon matter, as do the original intention. That is the only legitimate lens to measure through.

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427windsorman 1 point ago +1 / -0

“Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker. But if we had not, our fathers have earned and bought it for us, at the expense of their ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood.” ~ John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

“We should be unfaithful to ourselves if we should ever lose sight of the danger to our liberties if anything partial or extraneous should infect the purity of our free, fair, virtuous, and independent elections.” ~ John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President Inaugural Address, March 4, 1797

“All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, so much as downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation.” ~ John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President in a letter to Thomas Jefferson in 1787

“[You have Rights] antecedent to all earthly governments: Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; Rights, derived from the Great Legislator of the universe.” ~ John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

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427windsorman 1 point ago +1 / -0

First of all, there is no need of a Constitutional Convention because neither the government, nor the People, can remove unalienable rights that were conferred upon us by our Creator. Those rights preexist any government or "authority" instituted by Man.

Secondly, our founders did lay everything down in stone. One just needs to educate themselves as to the founders intentions and own words on rights, and to whom the Constitution applied. The Constitution applies to government. The Constitutional protections of our rights from government apply to Americans. They understood that there needed to be a waiting / vetting period for immigrants to become Americans in order to enjoy that protection, and to participate in selecting representatives, etc......

The first place to start is to understand that the Constitution and Declaration of Independence must be read together in order to gain a firm understanding of their intentions.

“What can be more reasonable than that when crowds of them [immigrants] come here, they should be forced to renounce everything contrary to the spirit of the Constitution[?]” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President James Madison, House of Representatives, Naturalization Bills (January 1, 1795); Philip B. Kurland and Ralph Lerner, eds., The Founders’ Constitution, Volume Two: Preamble through Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 (Indianapolis: Liberty Fund, 2000), 577.

“To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens the moment they put foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.” ~ Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) American statesman, Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, The Examination, No. 9 (January 18, 1802).

“In the recommendation to admit indiscriminately foreign emigrants of every description to the privileges of American citizens on their first entrance into our country, there is an attempt to break down every pale which has been erected for the preservation of a national spirit and a national character; and to let in the most powerful means of perverting and corrupting both the one and the other.” ~ Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) American statesman, Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, The Examination, No. 9 (January 18, 1802).

“Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have a right, from the frame of their nature, to knowledge, as their great Creator, who does nothing in vain, has given them understandings, and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge; I mean, of the characters and conduct of their rulers.” ~ John Adams (1735-1826) Founding Father, 2nd US President Dissertation on Canon and Feudal Law, 1765

“Liberty is the prevention of control by others. This requires self-control and, therefore, religious and spiritual influences; education, knowledge, well-being.” ~ Lord Acton [John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton] (1834-1902), First Baron Acton of Aldenham

“The makers of our constitution undertook to secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness... They sought to protect Americans in their beliefs, their thoughts, their emotions and their sensations. They conferred, as against the government, the right to be let alone – the most comprehensive of the rights and the right most valued by civilized men.” ~ Justice Louis D. Brandeis (1856-1941) US Supreme Court Justice Olmstead v. United States, 1928

“[A]ll power is originally vested in, and consequently derived from, the people. That government is instituted and ought to be exercised for the benefit of the people; which consists in the enjoyment of life and liberty and the right of acquiring property, and generally of pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety. That the people have an indubitable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to reform or change their government whenever it be found adverse or inadequate to the purpose of its institution.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

“Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it.” ~ Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) American statesman, Secretary of the Treasury Federalist No. 22, December 14, 1787

“Unlike ordinary legislation, a constitution is enacted by the people themselves in their sovereign capacity and is therefore the paramount law.” ~ Justice Frank Cruise Haymond (1887-1972) West Virginia Court of Appeals (1946-1972) Lance v. Board of Education, 170 S.E.2d 783, 793 (1969) (dissent)

“The Thirteen States are Thirteen Sovereign bodies.” ~ Oliver Ellsworth (1745-1807) USA Founding father, third Chief Justice of the United States Commentaries on the Constitution, Vol. III, p 287

“The only part of the conduct of anyone for which he is amenable to society is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.” ~ John Stuart Mill (1806-1873) English philosopher and economist

“The only purpose for which power can rightfully be exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. ... Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.” ~ John Stuart Mill (1806-1873) English philosopher and economist On Liberty (1859)

“Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President Federalist No. 39, 1788

“The people are Sovereign. ... at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects... with none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty.” ~ John Jay (1745-1829) first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, First President of the United States - preceding George Washington, one of three men most responsible for the US Constitution Chisholm v. Georgia, (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @Dall 1793 pp471-472

“In this country sovereignty resides in the people, and Congress can exercise no power which they have not, by their Constitution, entrusted to it: All else is withheld.” ~ U.S. Supreme Court Juilliard v. Greenman, 110 U.S. 421 (1884).

“In the United States, Sovereignty resides in the people, who act through the organs established by the Constitution.” ~ Chisholm v. Georgia Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall 419, 471

“[T]he policy or advantage of [immigration] taking place in a body (I mean the settling of them in a body) may be much questioned; for, by so doing, they retain the language, habits, and principles (good or bad) which they bring with them. Whereas by an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, and laws: in a word, soon become one people.” ~ George Washington (1732-1799) Founding Father, 1st US President, 'Father of the Country' George Washington, Letter to John Adams (November 15, 1794)

“If aliens might be admitted indiscriminately to enjoy all the rights of citizens at the will of a single state, the Union might itself be endangered by an influx of foreigners, hostile to its institutions, ignorant of its powers, and incapable of a due estimate of its privileges.” ~ Justice Joseph Story (1779-1845) US Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, Book 3, §1098 (1833); Philip B. Kurland and Ralph Lerner, eds., The Founders’ Constitution, Volume Two: Preamble through Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 (Indianapolis: Liberty Fund, 2000), 619.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” ~ John Quincy Adams (1767-1848) 6th US President

“Posterity -- you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it.” ~ John Quincy Adams (1767-1848) 6th US President

“Governors have no Right to seek and take what they please; by this, instead of being content with the Station assigned them, that of honorable Servants of the Society, they would soon become Absolute Masters, Despots,and Tyrants. Hence, as a private Man has a Right to say what Wages he will give in his private Affairs, so has a Community to determine what they will give and grant of their Substance for the Administration of public Affairs.” ~ Samuel Adams (1722-1803), was known as the "Father of the American Revolution." The Votes and Proceedings of the Freeholders and Other Inhabitants of the Town of Boston in Town Meeting Assembled, According to Law. Published by Order of the Town. Nov 20 1772

“In short, is not liberty the freedom of every person to make full use of his faculties, so long as he does not harm other persons while doing so? Is not liberty the destruction of all despotism -- including, of course, legal despotism? Finally, is not liberty the restricting of the law only to its rational sphere of organizing the right of the individual to lawful self-defense; of punishing injustice?” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848 What Is Liberty? "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat (1848) http://liberty-tree.ca/research/TheLaw

“How bad do things have to get before you do something? Do they have to take away all your property? Do they have to license every activity that you want to engage in? Do they have to start throwing you on cattle cars before you say “now wait a minute, I don’t think this is a good idea.” How long is it going to be before you finally resist and say “No, I will not comply. Period!” Ask yourself now because sooner or later you are going to come to that line, and when they cross it, you’re going to say well now cross this line; ok now cross that line; ok now cross this line. Pretty soon you’re in a corner. Sooner or later you’ve got to stand your ground whether anybody else does or not. That is what liberty is all about.” ~ Michael Badnarik (1954- ) American software engineer, political figure, and former radio talk show host

Before the creation of the "US citizen" after the War Between the States, people were recognized as citizens of the State in which they were born or naturalized. Americans need remember that each state is sovereign, not subservient to the rule of Washington DC. Each state is a republic. Each county within a state is a republic. This is how a republican form of government is formed.

We need to return to true republican governance, the citizen being sovereign over himself/herself from which the power of representative government is derived. Each state has a Constitution establishing a republican form of representative government — not so-called 'democracy.' This point can never be hammered home enough.

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427windsorman 1 point ago +1 / -0

Election certification refers to the process of election officials attesting that the tabulation and canvassing of the election are complete and accurate and that the election results are a true and accurate accounting of all votes cast in a particular election.

If there are indications of inaccuracies or cheating, they are duty bound not to certify. It is that simple. What Arizona did to Tina Peters is criminal, and tyranny. She was 100% correct in what she did. Corrupt government is getting away with it due to the ignorant masses that fail to check government as Jurors in courtrooms.

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