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ApplesOrangesLemons 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m curious if the Super Bowl will look like a puppy bowl this year with all the Epstein stuff coming out

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ApplesOrangesLemons 1 point ago +1 / -0

From Grok4 (says no discovery rights for RFK)

Yes, six major medical groups (including the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Physicians, American Public Health Association, Infectious Diseases Society of America, Massachusetts Public Health Association, and Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine) along with an anonymous pregnant physician filed a lawsuit on July 7, 2025, against HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and HHS (as well as other related officials and agencies like the FDA, NIH, and CDC) in the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts. The suit challenges Kennedy’s May 19, 2025, “Secretarial Directive” removing COVID-19 vaccines from the CDC’s recommended immunization schedules for healthy children (ages 6 months to 17 years) and pregnant women, alleging it was arbitrary, capricious, and unlawful under the Administrative Procedure Act (APA). The plaintiffs seek to vacate the directive, reinstate the recommendations, and obtain injunctive relief. Regarding discovery rights: In this type of lawsuit, which is a pure APA challenge to agency action (with no additional non-APA claims like constitutional violations or torts), judicial review is generally confined to the administrative record compiled by the agency (HHS) at the time of its decision, under 5 U.S.C. § 706 and precedents like Citizens to Preserve Overton Park, Inc. v. Volpe (1971). This means broad civil discovery under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26—such as requests for production of documents, interrogatories, or depositions—is not available as it is in typical litigation. The goal is to assess whether the agency’s action was arbitrary and capricious based on its own reasoning and record, not to create a new evidentiary record in court. RFK Jr. and HHS (as defendants) therefore do not have a general right to conduct discovery into the plaintiffs’ vaccination data (e.g., internal studies or records on COVID-19 vaccine safety/efficacy held by the medical groups) or emails/communications between the medical groups and pharmaceutical companies. Such materials are outside the agency’s administrative record and typically irrelevant to APA review, which focuses on the agency’s process and basis for the directive, not the plaintiffs’ private information, motives, or external relationships. Exceptions allowing extra-record evidence or limited discovery are narrow and primarily benefit plaintiffs challenging the agency (e.g., upon a strong showing of agency bad faith or pretextual reasoning, as in Department of Commerce v. New York (2019), or if the record is so inadequate it frustrates review, per Camp v. Pitts (1973)). These exceptions do not extend to defendants seeking broad discovery from plaintiffs to probe for bias, conflicts, or other collateral issues. If defendants believe such information is crucial (e.g., to contest the plaintiffs’ standing by arguing no genuine injury), they could motion the court for limited discovery on that threshold issue, but even then, it would be narrowly tailored and subject to judicial discretion— not a guaranteed right. Emails with pharma, in particular, would likely be deemed irrelevant or disproportionate unless tied directly to a bad-faith claim against the plaintiffs, which is uncommon and hard to substantiate in APA cases. In practice, courts disfavor expanding discovery in APA reviews to avoid delaying resolutions and burdening parties, as noted in analyses like those from the University of Chicago Law Review on evidentiary scope. If the case evolves (e.g., via amended complaints, counterclaims, or consolidation with other suits), the discovery landscape could change, but based on the current filing, defendants lack the right to pursue this type of discovery.

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ApplesOrangesLemons 14 points ago +14 / -0

Weird. I thought Facebook promised to stop censoring. And MZ revealed on the Rogan podcast that it was government that was forcing them to censor

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ApplesOrangesLemons 10 points ago +10 / -0

In my opinion, your cell phone is more of a privacy concern than something like REAL ID. The government already maintains a central database for taxes and passports. Your cellphone, on the other hand, is a walking microphone. Apps with access to gyroscope (motion) data can pick up audio in the room if left on hard furniture that will have micro vibrations when someone talks. Most browsers and apps can freely request gyroscope data access.

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ApplesOrangesLemons 3 points ago +3 / -0

FYI, there was a video floating around twitter/X with Kappy (when he was alive) saying how he knew who the imposters were. Laura Loomer and Jack Prosobiac were mentioned along with 2 others (forgot already). Need to dig up the link

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ApplesOrangesLemons 2 points ago +2 / -0

Could also be related to workforce reduction and ex gov employees unable to afford their mortgage too. And also people quitting and moving out of that area.

My guess is CIA and FBI employees quitting. They reside in that area

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ApplesOrangesLemons 4 points ago +4 / -0

It was also created by congress under the Obama administration. Someone posted a link here showing the executive order where USDS was renamed to DOGE

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ApplesOrangesLemons 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have suspicions those meme coins were done purposely to stress test the Solana crypto exchange to see how they would perform under stress and high volume. It failed spectacularly

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ApplesOrangesLemons 6 points ago +6 / -0

Real experience: research director made a bid on a military project requesting realistic numbers for the research program needed $250k. He gets rejected with a side comment that the project seems really innovative but it needs to be in the million range to be a serious project. So director inflates the number to 3million. Project approved. We finished successfully using only $250k… but because of funding requirements, the program hired 5-7 different contractors, doing things tangentially related. Those projects never finish, but everyone is happy

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ApplesOrangesLemons 3 points ago +3 / -0

I read somewhere they did this for folks who would plead the 5th. The pardons revoke 5th amendment rights and they can still get in trouble if they perjure from previous testimony

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ApplesOrangesLemons 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doesn’t look serious though

THIS MATERIAL EVENT CONTAINS A 'Less than Cat 3' LEVEL OF RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL

Sources that are "Less than IAEA Category 3 sources," are either sources that are very unlikely to cause permanent injury to individuals or contain a very small amount of radioactive material that would not cause any permanent injury. Some of these sources, such as moisture density gauges or thickness gauges that are Category 4, the amount of unshielded radioactive material, if not safely managed or securely protected, could possibly - although it is unlikely - temporarily injure someone who handled it or were otherwise in contact with it, or who were close to it for a period of many weeks. For additional information go to http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub1227_web.pdf

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ApplesOrangesLemons 4 points ago +4 / -0

I bet hunter’s pardon and the media attempt to spin it woke a lot of people and got them to change their minds about trump. Back in 2020, they were asking trump not to use their song

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ApplesOrangesLemons 5 points ago +5 / -0

All this talk of excess energy and PGE keeps raising the electricity rate in California. Something doesn’t add up. I’m paying more for electricity now than before

Haha by Qtoad
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ApplesOrangesLemons 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol… subtle: Clarance vs Clarence

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