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JonathanE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Does anyone have anything to back up the claim in that thread that it was the teleprompter exploding from a missed shot that injured Trump?

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JonathanE 1 point ago +1 / -0

I read the guy used an ar-15, any comment on the ammo type?

A standard nato round should be accurate to 400+ yards, which makes the shooter an awful shot and a poor choice of assassin if this was an organised hit.

There are certainly questions about the rooftop not being cover by snipers, but I don't see this being a professional (ds) hit. If they went for him like they did JFK then then Trump would almost certainly be dead.

When I watched the video last night, someone above and to the right of Trump (as we viewed it on TV) disappeared out of shot very quickly if it was a survival reaction. I've read since that the civilians who were shot were to the left of Trump as we viewed the scene, so it's hard to be sure.

We have numerous people in this thread stating that they knew witnesses to the event, people who have a seemingly genuine post history, then we would have all the various witnesses in the audience of the rally who would have to be in on it if it were staged.

I do risk analysis and troubleshooting for a living, and at the moment the balance of probability is that this was a genuine attack on Trump by an amateur.

The question of the SS failure however is a factor that has still to be accounted for in my analysis.

note: I have factored in the possibility that posters have been planted in this community for just this moment, assuming the event was staged. No offence to anyone, this is possible, but doesn't seem likely when taking all the potential eye witnesses into account at the scene.

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JonathanE 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think assassinating Trump would have qualified

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JonathanE 4 points ago +4 / -0

Perhaps they were taught it was some kind of magic spell?

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JonathanE 9 points ago +9 / -0

And it is being used to influence an election. That's a conspiracy felony right there.

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JonathanE 66 points ago +66 / -0

This is how it is revealed that the ruling classes subvert the will of the people for their own agenda.

It sucks that people are so stupid that we have to go through all this bullshit just to wake up a bunch of fucking morons who would rather worry about what other people think of them than live free.

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JonathanE 11 points ago +11 / -0

Anyone remember when this was from? I know it was a while ago.

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JonathanE 1 point ago +1 / -0

decent? Did you mean dissent?

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JonathanE 3 points ago +3 / -0

There were over 600 Reform candidates I believe, but half of that was all very last minute due to the snap election being called.

Rishi Sunak screwed us all. I think he called an early election because Reform were starting to threaten the Conservative voting block, but that happened anyway and he just handed Labour a super majority (which is probably why he did it - fell on his sword to ensure an establishment party gained power)

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JonathanE 1 point ago +1 / -0

No reason not to think it was on the level, apart from postal votes being a bit open to abuse the actual counting is done by hand with paper ballots.

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JonathanE 10 points ago +10 / -0

Unfortunately we don't actually elect our PM. The PM is the head of the party that is in power, and they get in power by how many seats they get in parliament.

Reform got more actual votes than the Lib Dems, who got 71 seats to Reform's 4.

I'm ashamed of my fellow countrymen today.

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