The one building with a clear line of sight and only 150 yards away.....and the SS doesn't have it secure? That tells me it was allowed to happen. Surely the SS isn't that incompetent?
Several weeks now of repeated requests for increased security detail for Trump that have been denied. Massive security failure. Witnesses state they saw the shooter climbing into position with a rifle and tried to get the attention of law enforcement that basically went ignored. This incident has all the hallmarks of an inside job that will be blamed on the SS and a lone wolf nut job.
This had nothing to do with a lack of extra security. That's just BS.
If the SS did not have enough men to cover that rooftop President Trump should have be nowhere near that stage.
You are completely right. This has all the hallmarks of an inside job.
All the extra security in the world is not going to help if you have someone on the inside making sure certain areas are not covered.
While I can appreciate the uncertainty and questions surrounding all of this, I am still fully convinced this event was the very definition of drop 461:
"What makes a movie good? Great actors."
It's an unexpected plot twist, but I don't believe for an instant this was done by the bad guys. There is a bigger thread this is setting up.
You think that there would also be a drone or two up overseeing the area or helo's. Something doesn't add up. The left wing violence needs to be stopped.
Drones are for more important things... like lame 4th of July displays replacing really dangerous fireworks. Oh! I almost forgot...and for killing Russians.
Those Russians were cleaning up a mess that threatens all of us. I feel for all of those that have lost family members to that conflict, with the exception of the nazi azov team in ukraine. Putin stated he wanted to clean up the nazis and the bio weapons labs that developing and testing bio weapons on slavics.
It should have been. The eye witness accounts/videos on this that are going to emerge in the next 48 hours is going to leave a lot of people demanding why the SS allowed this guy to get on a rooftop within 400 ft of the rally stage with a clear line of sight.
This was not a staged assassination attempt. It was the real deal. It was a real shooting and a real attempt to kill our legitimate President.
The area was not secured properly, nor was protocol followed in securing the venue. The SS was slow to react to the threat. They took an extremely long time in moving him to safety. Both are in opposition to the extensive and precise training the SS receive to be on a security detail of this nature.
Speculation:
The SS is as compromised as the FBI, CIA, ATF, IRS, and every other federal agency.
The hoped for outcome was not achieved forcing the SS to jump into protection mode and move Trump out of the area. There is no way 3+ shots could have been taken by the assassin before a SS sniper could get off a shot.
I predict Trump will keep his personal security team close around him going forward. Between him and the SS.
To me, this has a lot of red flags indicating it was a possible set up. There is no way they could have predicted only 1 of the shots fired would hit Trump, and it only be a grazing wound.
Counterargument to 1st point of speculation: The Secret Service takes its work very seriously, because their entire reputation hinges on their competence. Meanwhile, the DHS is directly responsible for allocation of SS agents and resources, and has reportedly been unresponsive to the Trump detail's requests for more agents and assets.
I'd say it's more likely that none of those agents knew anything and that they did exactly what they were trained to do. There's simply no reason to inform the agents who don't need to know of a plan to allow the assassination of their own protectee. If they have no active role in such a plan, they don't need to do anything other than their normal job. It makes it more believable anyway when they're scrambling around wondering how such a thing could happen.
All that would need to be done is for some higher ups to botch the security plan. Every agent simply does their job, maybe you involve the sniper team, but ultimately it's the lack of agents on that rooftop that allows the plan to work. And if the shooter knew the plan, it allows him to work around the agents that are there.
Something seems off about the shooter or shooters. Also the “witnesses” could be fake. I sound skeptical I know, just don’t know who’s legit in these situations.
hopefully now people will understand why Jackie Kennedy didn't expose to the world who fired the final killshot to her husband.
she didn't tell us that Greer reached over his right shoulder with a CIA pistol, because SS surrounds her & her family.
if she spoke out, they'd kill her or the children.
It would be security 101, to have that clear line of sight building covered by security, but they just allow some maniac with a rifle to climb up, get into position & take aim at the most targeted man on the planet???
Surely it could just be that they assumed it was SS on the roof and since they couldn't see just did nothing? A couple local officers who simply had to show up because their superior told them to likely wouldn't know anything outside of "stand here and keep watch". They have their job and the SS have theirs, and the local officers don't need to know much about the latter.
Hard to find the line between incompetence and malice, but this seems perfectly plausible to me based on what the guy in the above video said.
They had 2 to 3 minutes of advance warning, and yet the bear-crawling rifle-toting perp got off 5 shots before he got whacked. What the hell!? Patriots were pointing directly to him!
This is the heart of Pennsylvania Deer Country. The assassins didn't even have the common decency to try even an ordinary deer-killer like a .30-30 or even a .30-06. They insulted Western Pennsylvania, and also, a former, and also, the next Presidency...
Haven't heard much about radio communication. The guy they interviewed said the police started running around for several minutes. What the Acutal F@ck! Get on the God Damn radio and get Trump off the stage if people are yelling and pointing. This was either the most incompetant security job ever or an inside job.
IMO it took forEVER for the SS agents to pile on Trump. For people that were to surround him and take a bullet for him, they were short and looked instead like they were in a cheerleader hug barely covering his upper body with theirs as they moved him from the stage. I was disgusted with them. I know the SS agents should have been on him ASAP, not 10-15 seconds later. Where were they anyhow?
This rooftop thing has me on fire. What a bunch of idiots we have protecting the President. He needs to hire his own security after this. I'll pitch in to help pay.
I have a potential answer for this question, actually, and it's not that Trump's detail wasn't fully on-task or that they were neglecting their duties. If anything, the blame for this incident being allowed to happen is a result of the DHS failing to respond to or act upon the requests of Trump's security detail for additional agents and resources to be allocated to them.
TL;DR: The reason there weren't SS agents on every building is because Trump's detail simply doesn't have that many agents available, and not for a lack of trying to get them.
Assuming that's the case is it still prudent to even conduct the rallies? Trump can't spend the $$ for extra private security assets? I have more questions than answers on this one. None of this makes sense.
Trump isn't the kind of man who will cower in the face of this treacherous attack. Though there was a tragic loss of life, and this incident could have been prevented if the rooftop that was used had been properly secured, there is a silver lining:
The higher-ups in the Secret Service cannot afford to leave Trump's events improperly secured without coming under fire from non-RINOs in Congress, lest they undermine the agency's reputation in the face of scrutiny by the entire American public.
If you have an android phone, grab Seal from f-droid. Very simple UI. You copy and paste the link (to any site, not just YouTube or twitter), and it'll download it for you.
I’m posting this everywhere- snipers do NOT miss. What if the person who died was the actual target? What if the DS took out a WH sniper - so the warring fractions had people on both sides which would explain why the sniper was allowed to be there and why he missed because they don’t miss or they die.
The one building with a clear line of sight and only 150 yards away.....and the SS doesn't have it secure? That tells me it was allowed to happen. Surely the SS isn't that incompetent?
Inside job, if the police weren't even doing anything minutes prior to it happening. Tells you everything that's needed to know.
Several weeks now of repeated requests for increased security detail for Trump that have been denied. Massive security failure. Witnesses state they saw the shooter climbing into position with a rifle and tried to get the attention of law enforcement that basically went ignored. This incident has all the hallmarks of an inside job that will be blamed on the SS and a lone wolf nut job.
This had nothing to do with a lack of extra security. That's just BS. If the SS did not have enough men to cover that rooftop President Trump should have be nowhere near that stage.
You are completely right. This has all the hallmarks of an inside job.
All the extra security in the world is not going to help if you have someone on the inside making sure certain areas are not covered.
True.
While I can appreciate the uncertainty and questions surrounding all of this, I am still fully convinced this event was the very definition of drop 461:
"What makes a movie good? Great actors."
It's an unexpected plot twist, but I don't believe for an instant this was done by the bad guys. There is a bigger thread this is setting up.
Should have been SS snipers on EVERY rooftop in that area.
You think that there would also be a drone or two up overseeing the area or helo's. Something doesn't add up. The left wing violence needs to be stopped.
Drones are for more important things... like lame 4th of July displays replacing really dangerous fireworks. Oh! I almost forgot...and for killing Russians.
Those Russians were cleaning up a mess that threatens all of us. I feel for all of those that have lost family members to that conflict, with the exception of the nazi azov team in ukraine. Putin stated he wanted to clean up the nazis and the bio weapons labs that developing and testing bio weapons on slavics.
I assume that would be standard protocol.
It should have been. The eye witness accounts/videos on this that are going to emerge in the next 48 hours is going to leave a lot of people demanding why the SS allowed this guy to get on a rooftop within 400 ft of the rally stage with a clear line of sight.
Two on one roof, none on the other, makes much more sense than one on each roof.
Exactly.
Mk ultra.
DEI is running rampant in the regime
Female SS lol..
I legit worried that the lady next to the truck would get run over or shot herself or someone else...
And why is this post not stickied at the top in red ??
Have you requested it? mods sleep too.
Trump needs a new security detail.
Facts:
Speculation:
To me, this has a lot of red flags indicating it was a possible set up. There is no way they could have predicted only 1 of the shots fired would hit Trump, and it only be a grazing wound.
Counterargument to 1st point of speculation: The Secret Service takes its work very seriously, because their entire reputation hinges on their competence. Meanwhile, the DHS is directly responsible for allocation of SS agents and resources, and has reportedly been unresponsive to the Trump detail's requests for more agents and assets.
JFK
Eye witness report suggests 5 shots
I'd say it's more likely that none of those agents knew anything and that they did exactly what they were trained to do. There's simply no reason to inform the agents who don't need to know of a plan to allow the assassination of their own protectee. If they have no active role in such a plan, they don't need to do anything other than their normal job. It makes it more believable anyway when they're scrambling around wondering how such a thing could happen.
All that would need to be done is for some higher ups to botch the security plan. Every agent simply does their job, maybe you involve the sniper team, but ultimately it's the lack of agents on that rooftop that allows the plan to work. And if the shooter knew the plan, it allows him to work around the agents that are there.
Something seems off about the shooter or shooters. Also the “witnesses” could be fake. I sound skeptical I know, just don’t know who’s legit in these situations.
Agreed MB...We are in a Psyop...inside of a Psyop riding in a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma…
Just Remember an attendee is dead.
SS was obviously in on it.
hopefully now people will understand why Jackie Kennedy didn't expose to the world who fired the final killshot to her husband.
she didn't tell us that Greer reached over his right shoulder with a CIA pistol, because SS surrounds her & her family.
if she spoke out, they'd kill her or the children.
It would be security 101, to have that clear line of sight building covered by security, but they just allow some maniac with a rifle to climb up, get into position & take aim at the most targeted man on the planet???
ok.
Local police are more likely to be in on it, because the police had every opportunity to inform the SS detail and apparently chose not to.
Surely it could just be that they assumed it was SS on the roof and since they couldn't see just did nothing? A couple local officers who simply had to show up because their superior told them to likely wouldn't know anything outside of "stand here and keep watch". They have their job and the SS have theirs, and the local officers don't need to know much about the latter.
Hard to find the line between incompetence and malice, but this seems perfectly plausible to me based on what the guy in the above video said.
The gunman:
https://x.com/L_ThinkTank/status/1812267557472072109
Sure looks deceded...
Yep!!!
One job.
...intentionaly failed miserably, with only one predictable outcome... and yet, Trump Lives!
I am convinced SS stood down and then they did a Jack Ruby in real time, sniper knew where the shooter was.
Most likely.
Is Trump truly 100% insulated? I have doubts after today.
“The call is coming from inside the house.”
WHY DIDNT THE PEOPLE WATCHING SHOOT HIM JEEZ
They had 2 to 3 minutes of advance warning, and yet the bear-crawling rifle-toting perp got off 5 shots before he got whacked. What the hell!? Patriots were pointing directly to him!
They were watching the rally from the outside. They were not in a gun-free zone—WHERE were their guns‽
This is the heart of Pennsylvania Deer Country. The assassins didn't even have the common decency to try even an ordinary deer-killer like a .30-30 or even a .30-06. They insulted Western Pennsylvania, and also, a former, and also, the next Presidency...
Why do you assume the crowd would be carrying a gun? I wouldn’t if anywhere near the rally, considering the supposed tight security.
Because they most likely would have been killed by the Police or SS.
Haven't heard much about radio communication. The guy they interviewed said the police started running around for several minutes. What the Acutal F@ck! Get on the God Damn radio and get Trump off the stage if people are yelling and pointing. This was either the most incompetant security job ever or an inside job.
I remember going to a Carter event back in the day...there were guys on every single building top...every single one...
IMO it took forEVER for the SS agents to pile on Trump. For people that were to surround him and take a bullet for him, they were short and looked instead like they were in a cheerleader hug barely covering his upper body with theirs as they moved him from the stage. I was disgusted with them. I know the SS agents should have been on him ASAP, not 10-15 seconds later. Where were they anyhow? This rooftop thing has me on fire. What a bunch of idiots we have protecting the President. He needs to hire his own security after this. I'll pitch in to help pay.
Came to post this. Thanks!
You are welcome, Fren! WWG1WGA!
I have a potential answer for this question, actually, and it's not that Trump's detail wasn't fully on-task or that they were neglecting their duties. If anything, the blame for this incident being allowed to happen is a result of the DHS failing to respond to or act upon the requests of Trump's security detail for additional agents and resources to be allocated to them.
TL;DR: The reason there weren't SS agents on every building is because Trump's detail simply doesn't have that many agents available, and not for a lack of trying to get them.
Assuming that's the case is it still prudent to even conduct the rallies? Trump can't spend the $$ for extra private security assets? I have more questions than answers on this one. None of this makes sense.
Trump isn't the kind of man who will cower in the face of this treacherous attack. Though there was a tragic loss of life, and this incident could have been prevented if the rooftop that was used had been properly secured, there is a silver lining:
The higher-ups in the Secret Service cannot afford to leave Trump's events improperly secured without coming under fire from non-RINOs in Congress, lest they undermine the agency's reputation in the face of scrutiny by the entire American public.
There are five year olds who could do a much better job as a news reporter than this guy.
TRUMP LIVES!
Information come in like a fire hose. Need to sort out the wheat from the chaf.
Can we get this video extracted and shared? I'll see if I can do it but I don't have an x account.
Found this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c51yly4085lo
I can screen record but I can’t post videos here.
Grab a GUI called Stacher
And youtube-dl
right on, ive got JDownloader but havent seen Starcher yet
There's another one called Open Video Downloader, also open sourceed but it has occasional errors.
Works for many many sites though, uses ffmpeg and youtube-dl also
https://github.com/StefanLobbenmeier/youtube-dl-gui/releases
If you have an android phone, grab Seal from f-droid. Very simple UI. You copy and paste the link (to any site, not just YouTube or twitter), and it'll download it for you.
Oh right on thank you
Why wasn't someone on water tower in the distance?
I'm totally sure intentional malfeasance wasn't solely to blame.
I’m posting this everywhere- snipers do NOT miss. What if the person who died was the actual target? What if the DS took out a WH sniper - so the warring fractions had people on both sides which would explain why the sniper was allowed to be there and why he missed because they don’t miss or they die.
He looked like a run of the mill DEI he/she pedo. Unless he was MKUltra’d which is possible, I highly doubt he was a trained sniper.