To me this sounds exactly like Kari received a call while at home, and put him on speakerphone while recording the call with a separate device sitting on her desk. His voice has a speaker quality, and reverbs around the room as it was turned up loud. Her voice is clear and direct to the recording device in her natural speaking volume. If a call recording app was used you'd hear clearer voices on both ends without the room reverb.
Edit: Now I've heard the recording that sounds like they are both in the same room, perhaps a reflective kitchen area. The recording device is clearly closer to Kari.
I wholly support your thinking. Americans have to reconnect with our heritage of distrusting politicians who seek power for power's sake. We need to make it cool to be able to recite the evil names in government and their misdeeds. People have to be proud to distinguish between real criminals and victims of propaganda. We can stop trusting those who seek power so quickly, and instead learn their background.
I think these values take hold slowly, through interaction and osmosis among one's peer group. Hence, it really is a battle of words.
For instance, where do our opponents get their beliefs? There's the battleground.
I thank Gonzalo Lira for speaking to truth about Victoria Nuland and her central role to create the conditions to use American nukes to destroy Russia, to avenge something that happened to her Jewish Ukrainian grandfather. This is essential viewing, and is probably why Gonzalo Lira was left to rot in Victoria's prison.
https://www.youtube.com/live/TzR---YDDIQ?si=dH_uxFsK6Lr0HVKd
Find those you cannot criticize.
He was out on bail awaiting trial, and already knew his verdict was set up. He realized he was destined to die in prison because of his health problems. He took the best shot he had. I'm grateful to Gonzalo Lira for revealing to me the motivated hatred on the part of Victoria Nuland against the Russians, which is the primary reason why American and Russian nukes are targeting each other right now. She's using the American nuclear arsenal to obliterate her grandfather's enemy, as she's a Jewish Zionist Ukrainian on a mission.
That would be an enlarged prostate restricting the flow of urine. Begin your research there. Find the videos by Dr Eric Berg on prostate.