OK, if you planefags want a larger audience, you will need to pretend that not everybody knows as much about planes as you do.
Monkeywerx puts out video after video that explains nothing and means absolutely nothing.
Don't be like Monkeywerx. Or do, and have no audience, and convey no information to the Q audience.
C-17 - What is it? Why should anyone care? What does it mean if there is only 1 or if there are 25? Why would it matter they are in any particular location?
Roger that.
Shit... Sorry, Brother.
Boeing C-17 is a heavy lift 4-engine transport, a BIG plane. Similar to the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy, just a lot newer.
Now.
The C-17 is unimportant. The issue is the fact that NO military aircraft are "squawking". Every aircraft has a radio called a "Transponder". It's what civilian Air Traffic Control (ATC) uses to identify specific aircraft. It transmits altitude and other information that when combined with Radar, can give an almost "3D" picture of the airspace to ATC personnel.
NO military aircraft are using the transponder, so the civilian sites, like:
Can't see them. They still show up on Radar, but with NO identifying information.
The military has their OWN system, and civilians don't have access to it.
So, normally most military aircraft USE transponders, it makes it easier for civilian ATC, but as of a few hours ago, all military aircraft over the continental United States (CONUS), stopped transmitting transponder codes.
It's unusual, and COULD (and i emphasize C-O-U-L-D) indicate a nationwide operation in progress.
That's MY take.
You other guys feel free to elaborate or correct my assumptions...
I’m just an average person who knows next to nothing about planes, actually... all I do know is that these C-17’s and C-130’s are both transport planes. Whether these are troop deployments for SpecOps, prisoner transportation — the fact is, our military is very much on the move. And I can’t say exactly what moves are being made here.
Here’s the link. It’s been posted a lot on GA lately, but for all the MIL aircraft to turn off/jam their transponders tonight means that something is up, as they normally keep their transponders on.
Monkeywerx Twitter got banned. All this plane activity yesterday and today and he's the most well known planefag... Coincidence?
EDIT: I RETRACT this. He deleted his Twitter. Bit dumb to post on Twitter you're deleting it then delete it... How the fuck are people supposed to know!
Twitter accounts cannot be deleted once the account holder is suspended/banned. Likely, he wanted some control over how he removed his account information before a Twitter ban made that impossible.
Under the new rule, aircraft conducting operations related to homeland security, law enforcement, national defense and intelligence that could be compromised by transmitting real-time aircraft position information are permitted to disable ADS-B transmissions after obtaining proper authorization from the FAA.
So this would explain the multiple jammings in aircraft both in Europe and in CONUS... makes sense. Well, the most we can do is pray and ask God’s help regarding the safety of our servicemen and the success of their missions.
I watched at least 2 come in from Ramstein last night. Andrews, McGuire, and Dover seemed to be the hottest bases to return to last night. I believe 3rd airlift is at Dover and they provide support for Special Forces.
To make things clear, C-17’s are military transport planes commonly in use by the US Military. Why these two appear to be flying in conjunction with one another alongside a C-5M Galaxy (which, if I am correct, is also a transport plane) is beyond me.
Mmmm, they could very well be. I don't know what those specific crafts are used for, but the callsign is for abroad AMCs.
They landed at RMS (aka Ramstein). What were they doing in SA?
Repositioning to RMS? Why? There's a Q drop that relates to SA--US--EUR--APC, can't recall it off the top of my head... just interesting movements regardless.
"A C-17 accompanies the President of the United States on his visits to both domestic and foreign arrangements, consultations, and meetings. The C-17 is used to transport the Presidential Limousine, Marine One, and security detachments."
Not that I think it's this but interesting info.
Usually a c17 does some kinda strat airlift stuff - paratroopers, outsized cargo, etc.
Never used site before, got interested from the couple of images posted here.
Started watching some stuff near me in Europe.
US Military plane QID14
Is it common or uncommon for the call signs to begin with Q?
Was watching this one just now, two fighter jets came up to escort it... one just disappeared... only one with it now...
pretty neat
If no military flights are transponding, its a HUGE sign something massive is underway. They are ONLY allowed to do this for combat operations.
Since the US is constantly flying about the US for routine stuff, to have the entire USM go dark over the USA should be setting off sirens in your head.
Seriously. The Q posts talk about movement of troops. We all know the military is the answer at this point. Well, this is how our military moves troops and equipment around.
Seems very relevant because it may give a sense of the scope of this operation. I'm still stunned by the fact that we're suddenly seeing NO military presence in the sky.
they are all grounded (I don't believe this)
they're up there, and not squawking, which could mean this operation is very large in scope.
Potentially because their squawks could be linked to Q drops? I’ve seen it being done already earlier today, I thought it would be a good idea to see which Q posts these planes in Europe may be pointing to.
OK, if you planefags want a larger audience, you will need to pretend that not everybody knows as much about planes as you do.
Monkeywerx puts out video after video that explains nothing and means absolutely nothing.
Don't be like Monkeywerx. Or do, and have no audience, and convey no information to the Q audience.
C-17 - What is it? Why should anyone care? What does it mean if there is only 1 or if there are 25? Why would it matter they are in any particular location?
Same for all others.
Catch my drift?
Roger that.
Shit... Sorry, Brother. Boeing C-17 is a heavy lift 4-engine transport, a BIG plane. Similar to the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy, just a lot newer.
Now. The C-17 is unimportant. The issue is the fact that NO military aircraft are "squawking". Every aircraft has a radio called a "Transponder". It's what civilian Air Traffic Control (ATC) uses to identify specific aircraft. It transmits altitude and other information that when combined with Radar, can give an almost "3D" picture of the airspace to ATC personnel.
NO military aircraft are using the transponder, so the civilian sites, like:
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/
Can't see them. They still show up on Radar, but with NO identifying information.
The military has their OWN system, and civilians don't have access to it.
So, normally most military aircraft USE transponders, it makes it easier for civilian ATC, but as of a few hours ago, all military aircraft over the continental United States (CONUS), stopped transmitting transponder codes.
It's unusual, and COULD (and i emphasize C-O-U-L-D) indicate a nationwide operation in progress.
That's MY take.
You other guys feel free to elaborate or correct my assumptions...
mtewamp...
And, I've been watching the last few nights and it was dead then too. Seems to me like flyboys gotta have sleep too.
Of course, if there are active missions you won't see them.
Damn. Is that the one with Mel Gibson, about the CIA in Vietnam?
I'd forgotten about that one...
Ah, sorry, I edited out that part as I realized after I posted that the plane in Air America was a C130, not a C17.
Oh, a C-5 is a whole nother ballgame...C-17 is not as big, but still huge. The Galaxy's engine scream is LEGENDARY..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uPiD1KlwHU
Turn it up...
Thank you, Pede. Sends shivers down the spine to see a fucking Titan show it's power.
Welcome.
That was fucking awesome!
NICE! Thanks!
I was in the USAF. YMMV.
Totally agree. There’s usually stuff up. May not be the fun stuff, but planes flying nonetheless regardless of what time of night.
Great response!
Thank you, Brother.
How do you filter this for military traffic?
The "U" icon at the top right...
Nice explanation. Thank you!
That's a good question, but what are the chances that it's EVER "Zero"?
I’m just an average person who knows next to nothing about planes, actually... all I do know is that these C-17’s and C-130’s are both transport planes. Whether these are troop deployments for SpecOps, prisoner transportation — the fact is, our military is very much on the move. And I can’t say exactly what moves are being made here.
Our military is always on the move though.
You made an account just to post this image?
Do you have a link to the site?
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/
Here’s the link. It’s been posted a lot on GA lately, but for all the MIL aircraft to turn off/jam their transponders tonight means that something is up, as they normally keep their transponders on.
Much appreciated. Gotta save this. Thanks!
Checking now, there are 20-25 military planes over CONUS.
You're saying early this morning there were none, and that's highly unusual even on a Sunday night?
Or they could all be in bed.
Exactly. It's great that you're seeing something, but please help us understand.
Did that help?
I would say it did! I’m learning a lot as the situation progresses.
Monkeywerx Twitter got banned. All this plane activity yesterday and today and he's the most well known planefag... Coincidence?
EDIT: I RETRACT this. He deleted his Twitter. Bit dumb to post on Twitter you're deleting it then delete it... How the fuck are people supposed to know!
Twitter accounts cannot be deleted once the account holder is suspended/banned. Likely, he wanted some control over how he removed his account information before a Twitter ban made that impossible.
I'm watching it as well.
Looks like all CONUS military traffic are not squawking. It gives me a knot in my gut...
Not to mention the other comment pointing out what looks to be a jamming effort from a C-5 Galaxy. In short, something’s definitely up, for sure.
https://www.aviationtoday.com/2019/07/23/new-rule-allows-military-aircraft-turn-ads-b-transmissions-off/
Under the new rule, aircraft conducting operations related to homeland security, law enforcement, national defense and intelligence that could be compromised by transmitting real-time aircraft position information are permitted to disable ADS-B transmissions after obtaining proper authorization from the FAA.
So this would explain the multiple jammings in aircraft both in Europe and in CONUS... makes sense. Well, the most we can do is pray and ask God’s help regarding the safety of our servicemen and the success of their missions.
May stop at Ramstein. C5 base at Dover, Delaware.
I watched at least 2 come in from Ramstein last night. Andrews, McGuire, and Dover seemed to be the hottest bases to return to last night. I believe 3rd airlift is at Dover and they provide support for Special Forces.
Yes, and nothing unusual. Have witnessed the same activity there at the base before.
To make things clear, C-17’s are military transport planes commonly in use by the US Military. Why these two appear to be flying in conjunction with one another alongside a C-5M Galaxy (which, if I am correct, is also a transport plane) is beyond me.
C17 is second largest transport aircraft in our fleet, behind the C5 (hubs is a Navy vet and we've lived near military bases our whole lives)
Could squash quite a few commies in a c17?
Or one Stacy Abrams... kek
Just to put it in perspective, how many Stacy Abrams can that massive beast handle? 3? 5?
a C-5 can carry a couple of Abrams Tanks. not sure about the stacy version though.
Yeah, I'm still working on the math for conversion factors ...
... let's just say I'm stuck in decimals at this point ... kek!
LOL!
Well maybe just a leg...
Thanks for the info! I’m personally one of the uninformed when it comes to these aircraft.
Nothing appears out of the ordinary.
Correct. It's a BIG fucker. Not as big as a C-5, but close...
Been in both... 17 is big... 5 is YUGE.
Moving a group of soldiers from one location to another, commonly called a deployment.
A platoon in the army is about 42 people. A company is 2-5 platoons.
I'd expect a company and some equipment in that grouping of aircraft, or maybe 2-3 companies if its just personnel.
Playing with some of those flight numbers vs posts .. https://qalerts.app/?q=%234415 ?
And only focusing on what 17 says
sorry, your link isn't loading for me...can you try again pls?
any irregularities here?
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae0559
Interesting. Headed to Ramstein?
Left Rammstein, picked something REALLY BIG up from SA, then headed back real quick ....
Well, if it's a bunch of boys (and girls) in uniform, welcome back to civilization!
These are the RCH (REACH) craft - USAF Air Mobility commands. Departed from Arabia to RMS. On the ground now. Another one just departed.
So these could potentially be bringing our troops back home, then? I see.
Mmmm, they could very well be. I don't know what those specific crafts are used for, but the callsign is for abroad AMCs.
They landed at RMS (aka Ramstein). What were they doing in SA? Repositioning to RMS? Why? There's a Q drop that relates to SA--US--EUR--APC, can't recall it off the top of my head... just interesting movements regardless.
"A C-17 accompanies the President of the United States on his visits to both domestic and foreign arrangements, consultations, and meetings. The C-17 is used to transport the Presidential Limousine, Marine One, and security detachments."
Not that I think it's this but interesting info.
Usually a c17 does some kinda strat airlift stuff - paratroopers, outsized cargo, etc.
IDAHO17 up again over Georgia, flying weird patterns
Leaving afghanistan? All troops were supposed to leave in December.
Never used site before, got interested from the couple of images posted here. Started watching some stuff near me in Europe. US Military plane QID14 Is it common or uncommon for the call signs to begin with Q? Was watching this one just now, two fighter jets came up to escort it... one just disappeared... only one with it now... pretty neat
the one that disappeared cam back after a bit... ahh, mid air refuel... very cool
1 K35(QID14) loitering east of Italy.
1 K35(QID11) loitering over east-coast of UK.
Also some c17's in the air over Europe..
I saw 3 c17s from ramstein entering conus yesterday when night76 was over st louis. That might be normal tho
Planes are doing things.... Ok
youre gonna hve to explain like we're 5
or retarded
Why is planefagging stickied on a Q board?
Why is there someone asking why something is stickied in every stickied post?
If no military flights are transponding, its a HUGE sign something massive is underway. They are ONLY allowed to do this for combat operations.
Since the US is constantly flying about the US for routine stuff, to have the entire USM go dark over the USA should be setting off sirens in your head.
Seriously. The Q posts talk about movement of troops. We all know the military is the answer at this point. Well, this is how our military moves troops and equipment around.
Seems very relevant because it may give a sense of the scope of this operation. I'm still stunned by the fact that we're suddenly seeing NO military presence in the sky.
there are flights showing up now though, so maybe it was only for a short while.
That being said non essential flights might well be shown.
Potentially because their squawks could be linked to Q drops? I’ve seen it being done already earlier today, I thought it would be a good idea to see which Q posts these planes in Europe may be pointing to.
Because people want to believe
Uh, Q quit posting a while back and someone got bored?