This is the element of the plan that I find concerning. If it had to be this way and we don't matter, than so be it, but if people matter and it's about awakening, then I'm not sure we are moving in the right direction.
Awakening is seeing the corruption and waking up to the manipulation. Being blackpilled doesn't mean they aren't awake, it just means they see it but have lost hope. Being asleep and being blackpilled are not the same thing.
Well you can't blame them for not clinging to thin hope. Washington was actually fighting a war while we are just reading tweets that never seem to amount to anything. At some point there has to be tangible results. The nation is being seriously damaged now and it will only get worse by the day. I feel that many on this forum will still be hoping and defending The Plan during the second term of this tyranny.
This idea that a bunch of larping morons with guns can take back random buildings is even stupider than trusting an invisible plan. Let's face it, there aren't many options left.
I agree that the hopium drops are bad especially if nothing comes from it. I wasn't expecting anything to happen on the 20th because the mass arrest would've caused a shit ton of rioting to happen. (If the 'happening' happens, the rioting will be inevitable but it would've been absolutely FUBAR on the 20th).
I think the best bits that happened that day were the ceremony anomalies. The military doesn't mess stuff like that up on purpose (I hope).
A good point was made earlier (someplace I watched it, I think X22 report). They were supposed to be rioting over in Myanmar also, but haven't because people are looking at each other and realizing they didn't vote for the gal who got removed anyway. Maybe that will be what happens here, especially after Biden's recent actions that most people realize really suck.
u/BoatingAccident, I have 2 friends, I hope eventually still good friends again just like that. One was angry with me when I said it's going to end well after Xiden "inaugurated". Was with the other last week and I told him I believe Trump will succeed. I got the "look" and no comment. That look you'd get if you say you have magic pajamas that enable you to fly.
Both of them during Obama wailed about MSM narrative. Trump codifying "fake news" reinforced that. Right up until the MSM began saying Xiden won. Have fielded "it's over, election certified" and "Trump conceded" texts. Root of both MSM and yet they go right back to it and lap it up.
So I am saying no more. When it happens, it happens and I won't say I told you so as there is no point. They know where I was from 11/4 on.
It's not so much they are buying the media narrative again, it's that's 95% of their representatives just stabbed them in the back. Meanwhile the MSM and political elite are calling us domestic terrorists. People who stuck their necks out, like Lin Wood and Sidney Powell are being targeted for punishment. And Trump is back home and Biden is sitting in the Oval Office. That's not some narrative, that's the situation on the ground, at least as far as any of us can prove. Maybe there is still a plan, but I'm having a hard time believing that myself anymore. So I certainly can't hold it against anyone else for doubting.
It's dangerous to say this on GAW (downvote magnet) but Lin Wood and Powell and Giuliani are NOT very good ambassadors for the cause. Lin Wood, for example, comes across as totally unhinged. Powell and Giuliani don't do a great PR job either.
Would be nice if they kept the Patriots half in the loop, we have only put our entire personal lives at risk. Although I do feel like we are at an interesting point of peace, our efforts mattered until Election Day, now we can relax and watch the wind blow.
The best part is we will be the only ones prepared for the tyranny if it eventually comes crushing down instead of this daily trickle.
They need to be reminded that they caused their own devastation with their own "mis"interpretations. A swift kick in the a$$ should do nicely. Good grief
I think there are a lot of people who are woken up, but after Nov3, Jan6, and Jan20 have just given up hope of the good guys winning. It gets built up to “Oh my Gosh, if they win it’s all over. No more freedom, religion, guns, they will corrupt or children.”
So people get utterly depressed, and shut down. That may be a good thing for some people, otherwise feelings of helplessness can make some climb bell towers with rifles. Have some mercy on them. They are a wake and know the truth the just can’t cope with the day to day trauma of it all.
What I've been saying for some time now is this - I've lived through Clinton and Obama. People's heads were exploding back then - take our guns, concentration camps, UN Helicopters, death panels ... but what happened was, the stock market has continued to rise and life has gone on. People want to believe that 'now is different' but history tells us otherwise. Biden is actually a much milder version of Obama, and won't be inviting the CCP to march in, won't be eating our babies. Life will go on. People have become addicted to online social media and it's proving to be a terrible thing. I remember a time when I couldn't even remember who was in the White House! Trump stoked that disease by relentless tweeting. I think Twitter has an awful lot to answer for (and Facebook).
The time to wake people up was pre election, doesn't matter anymore. I'm done trying. Either our efforts worked, and things are in motion, or we are completely fucked. Red pilling going forward is pointless.
If it gives you any hope, my friend was getting impatient that I still haven't given up on Q (been here since early 2018 so I don't think I can just give up lol, this isn't our first rodeo or "10 days of darkness")
He asked, "what specific date will you finally disavow?" that's when I said "I don't know, I can't give you a date, but I can say that I will stop believing when it is clear that nothing is happening." He brought up how nothing is happening and I corrected that only the news isn't reporting on what is happening.
I showed him the bulk of what we gathered here after inauguration day like Joe Biden's and others' weird movements and comments as if being escorted by police, the military in DC, the 21 gun salute, etc. He said "maybe you have a point, that all is weird" (good enough for me).
This was right before "10 days darkness" ended at the white house just as Myanmar military takes control.
I try to show him what I can about Q but I basically summarized it as "look all of these anons and I did not just stumble across a guy on the chans saying 'I'm a totally legit government insider and Hillary will be arrested' and outright go 'You son of a bitch, I'm in' because many of us had seen that before, (hey guys I'm a space alien doing a school project on Earthlings, AMA). We met it with necessary skepticism and over the course of 3 years have been unable to deny it's legitimacy within the Executive Branch, despite constant and sustained media attacks, getting banned from everywhere on Reddit for "ban evasion" (meaningless term now), and even family cutting us out and blaming us for it (whether or not we actually talk about Q to them or if they just watched MSNBC and got freaked out). I will show you the proofs if you want to take the time to go over every single one, but you can trust me that after reading every post for years that it is undeniable."
If I'm honest, I'm new here, and I haven't yet decided what Q is. What I have decided is that it is definitely something, and whatever that something is, it's not what the media want us to believe. Even without being bought into Q, no-one who has looked at the events of the last 6 months objectively can say that there aren't things that need explanation - there is NO DOUBT that some kind of Psyop has been run around the election, it is not yet 100% clear to me what the nature of the operation was, who was running it, or what Trump's involvement with it was, and because I'm unclear on that, I'm wary of what I communicate and who I communicate it to. Because I don't want to discredit myself or anything else by assuming an unwarranted certainty.
But what I can and do say to anyone who will listen is that an incredibly sophisticated Psyop has been run in the US over the last year or so, and to take anything that the media is saying at face value is just not wise. It has not yet been demonstrated what is to be trusted but something very significant is going on around Trump that most people are not seeing because they have been conditioned not to look for it. Again, I can't be certain what it is, but there's something there that warrants careful attention.
I think its good to be straight in our own minds about what we are absolutely CERTAIN of, and what we would like to be true, or think could be true, and just be very clear about that when communicating. The only way to convince anyone about anything is to first create in them the desire to actually know whatever it is that there is to know... Many people are not yet at that stage, and the wrong kind of certainty from someone who has already passed through that stage themselves can actually hinder that process... Just asking open ended questions can help I think - so long as you really want to listen to the answer... For example, what do you think of the media? What issues bother you about the media etc etc.
How did you explain to them the failure of one of the first (and most dramatic) Q predictions - HRC arrest Oct 30, 2017? That one event alone drives most people I know away.
from what I remember, his next post said that she was "detained, not arrested (yet)" and that was when she started wearing the boot, along with John M who couldn't decide which ankle was broken.
I believe them wearing the boot is what gave Q their first piece of credibility among anons
I was talking with an old friend last night. We both were heavily against the Covid lockdowns and restrictions in place here in Canada and thats what got us talking. He saw a post I made about Jen Psaki not having communications with Space Force and that Biden wasn't in control. He's a Trump supporter and agrees the election was fraudulent but asked what made me believe Biden wasn't in control.
I started off by avoiding Q and explaining all the events that I had saved and could recall that were very obvious the Military doesn't see Biden as President--marines not saluting at inauguration, hats being thrown down during parade, mil turning backs on Biden, the fake 21-gun salute, and so on and so forth.
He went on to say he sees it, but doesn't know how that would lead to anything.
I redirected him to Myanmar.
Still, wasn't too sure.
I decided I'd open up about Q, give him drops, proofs.
The messages were read, but never replied to.
It was rather disappointing.
A part of me wants to rub it in to everyone's face once it's all over with but I know thats not anyway to help society wake up.
you can only get to Q through your own process... it takes time to look through it, evaluate it, start to make sense of it, and its absolutely right that everyone would approach it with extreme caution and skeptism and not take a friend's word for it... if it worked any other way it would not bring about the necessary change in thinking.
See, it's not skepticism or hesitation that would bother me. It was the complete blow off. No response, just left me hanging.
Rather than a, "why do you believe this", or "oh, that's weird I couldn't get into that myself" there was nothing.
However I will agree with you in the sense that people need to find the Q movement and research for themselves. When I was first made aware of Q, I thought it was crazy, couldn't believe anything people told me. Fast forward to 2020, I decided to dig into it myself, and here we are.
The problem with pointing to Q is that there's so much stuff that is hard to swallow. Eg -Oct 30 2017; HRC. How do you rationalize that to someone who's questioning Q? And I personally think spinning the whole baby eating/adrenochrome angle is a terrible put-off for people. Why not just focus on the fact that HRC is a crazy bitch, a swamp dweller, etc - why try to suggest she murders babies? People see that stuff and run a mile.
There was no mention of baby eating, satanic cult rituals, adrenochrome, etc. Just because I brought up Q drops and showed QProofs doesn't mean I dropped a shitload of adrenochrome on him.. lol
The real patriots are the ones like us still on the wagon not the ones who fell off. But be damn sure when things really start hitting the fan in a very public way they will be running along side the wagon trying to hop back is saying they never left.
It has to be this way fren. It is GOD's way of separating the wheat from the chaff. It reminds me of the phrase "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". You did what you needed to do. You spread the word for them to accept or deny. I have found those that deny are not spiritual. They are an empty vessel. Kim Clement video would be a way to reach some. I have reached those that have not liked President Trump through Kim Clement. Now they are spreading the hope and joy that we carry with us.
What's interesting about this is that the writer has no interest in understanding the person they are castigating at all. Everyone I know has some element of sloppyness, naivety, laziness... some defects in character and judgement, some biases in evaluating information... but the writer's words imply that they themselves sit outside of these traps that the rest of us fall into - that they have managed to escape such errors and so are now qualified to sit in judgement upon others...It is honestly the besetting sin of those who class themselves up as qualified to control the actions of others. The one thing that is always lacking is any form of humility...
This reminds me of a few friends of mine who have the same exact issue. Quick to judge my shortcomings as if they're beyond infallible, no honest attempts to understand my perspective, etc.
Wow, the letter writer isn't just misguided and uninformed about a number of things. He's also rude and abusive. He could have made his (incorrect) points in a much more respectful manner. Friends don't talk to friends that way, even when disagreeing.
There is no simple answer for that. I try to answer in love whenever possible. It is hard to respond to hate, but a calm response to rage might work. All I can do is shake my head. I guess we help those who can be helped. I am sorry :(
I've come to grips with it. This mess was made over centuries and we are an
instant gratification mindset. The cabal plans things out for 100 and 1000 year
schemes. That is why they have been winning. We can't last for 6 months.
With that said .... it is not easy. I hate capitulating to the bad guys as much
as anyone. We have to find our own peace and have BELIEF that this is going
to happen. Once that sinks in ..... everything else becomes easier. Just by
believing you are helping the movement. Knowing the outcome is CERTAIN
but not the exact TIMING is hard on us but just imagine those who are guilty.
The military has to make sure everyone has had every opportunity to come clean before the gauntlet falls. Then JUSTICE. NO DEALS.
I can understand that many of MAGA peeps are feeling down and having to face others with no answers. I am dealing with that off and on. I have finally gotten a few family members on board, but now they keep asking me why things are not happening, and they are afraid of what Biden is doing to the country in such a short time. I have no answer. I can say "trust the plan, trust God" only so many times before I get the "eye roll". I think Trump or Q team really NEEDS to drop us SOMETHING to hold on to right now. The Dems/DS/RINO's are wearing us down and it's becoming more difficult each day. We NEED a real WIN to help us keep going in these dark days.
There is much about the Q movement that has revealed the truth. So much so that I would not want to go back to sleep in a matrix where horrific things are done to children. My discernment is razor sharp. Some people simply are “sunshine Patriots,” you are not one of those.
I have a coworker, pretty red pilled, conservative as they come. Even with what I've shared and shown, doesn't believe in the plan. He won't stop listening to local talk radio and his wife has MSM on. Besides watching it for intel and making fun of them, we don't need to be listening as it's all horse shit. Very frustrating.
How about don't go back to farcebook or twatter because their companies like to ban trump supporters, conservatives, and "misinformation" that makes the left look bad for no reason whatsoever and sell all your personal data to third party companies. I quit farcebook and twatter a long time ago.
Back when Facebook started, I asked one of my best friends about staying connected through any chat platform. He pointed out, "I don't even have enough time for the friends and family that do matter to me right now. If they REALLY want to stay connected with me, they will find a way."
We've known each other for 20 years and still talk on a daily basis. We're not on Facebook or Twitter.
Agreed; MANY folks feel they're dependent on these online platforms whatever the reason may be. It's not like we haven't had other means of keeping up with those who ARE WORTH MAINTAINING relationships with but that's a whole other can of interpersonal worms.
I firmly believe the advent of platforms like these has obliterated the real, human-to-human communities people had not that long ago despite their decline having been ongoing for decades at least. Technology only sped it up exponentially, much to the ruling class' glee.
Lead by example, and if they won't meet you halfway in maintaining the relationship then they aren't worth the time. This is a hard and terrible pill to swallow for those that believe that family is/should be inseparable, yet have abusive and manipulative family members/friends that really should be cut-out.
Then again, anything worth having isn't easily gained.
Most of my family is in Europe with 8 hr difference. Texting sucks (and costs a lot internationally). Calling ditto. Visiting - ditto. WhatsApp and Skype work quite well.
My main point was to convey, we have lots of options. FB and Twitter going away or blocking is far from the end of the world.
I was just talking to my sister, their school group is flagged on Facebook because they asked questions about curriculum. I told her to have an alternate forum ready, they will shut them down.
This is very true. My entire family is leftist and I am not on any social media platform with them.
However, we all stay in touch via group chat on our phones and sharing pictures of family through that means. It was the only way I could stay close to them. When I had the platforms I found myself hating them because I was viewing their rants on politics. We all agreed no politics or religious discussion in the family chats. That is sad of course but at least I won't lose my family whom I do love.
I stopped posting to FB back in March 2020. Never announced I was leaving, just stopped posting. Out of my 300+ friends, fewer than 5 have contacted me via text or messenger since then. I only still have my personal page so I can manage my business page. I don’t miss it, and my real friends have kept in contact. Good riddance to it.
If anyone here went back in time to 2017 and said NOTHING would happen regarding Q before November 2020, people would have blasted them for being doomers and doubters. If Biden winning was part of the plan, then not one of us had any idea what the plan ever was. Everything is being retconned now to try to account for present reality.
After the twentieth people laugh when I bring anything up, I get mocked every single day
I get this too, it's brutal and sucks
This is what's making it harder the longer Q takes. Every new person awoken right now is being cancelled out by someone blackpilled back asleep.
This is the element of the plan that I find concerning. If it had to be this way and we don't matter, than so be it, but if people matter and it's about awakening, then I'm not sure we are moving in the right direction.
Awakening is seeing the corruption and waking up to the manipulation. Being blackpilled doesn't mean they aren't awake, it just means they see it but have lost hope. Being asleep and being blackpilled are not the same thing.
Renew his prescription, pede!
Tell them that George Washington would of hanged them for cowardice.
I like to go with: "Communists are stealing our country, what's your plan?"
A typical response I hear - "stock market is going gangbusters, my 401k is great, virus is getting under control, places are re-opening".
Well you can't blame them for not clinging to thin hope. Washington was actually fighting a war while we are just reading tweets that never seem to amount to anything. At some point there has to be tangible results. The nation is being seriously damaged now and it will only get worse by the day. I feel that many on this forum will still be hoping and defending The Plan during the second term of this tyranny.
This idea that a bunch of larping morons with guns can take back random buildings is even stupider than trusting an invisible plan. Let's face it, there aren't many options left.
I agree that the hopium drops are bad especially if nothing comes from it. I wasn't expecting anything to happen on the 20th because the mass arrest would've caused a shit ton of rioting to happen. (If the 'happening' happens, the rioting will be inevitable but it would've been absolutely FUBAR on the 20th).
I think the best bits that happened that day were the ceremony anomalies. The military doesn't mess stuff like that up on purpose (I hope).
A good point was made earlier (someplace I watched it, I think X22 report). They were supposed to be rioting over in Myanmar also, but haven't because people are looking at each other and realizing they didn't vote for the gal who got removed anyway. Maybe that will be what happens here, especially after Biden's recent actions that most people realize really suck.
u/BoatingAccident, I have 2 friends, I hope eventually still good friends again just like that. One was angry with me when I said it's going to end well after Xiden "inaugurated". Was with the other last week and I told him I believe Trump will succeed. I got the "look" and no comment. That look you'd get if you say you have magic pajamas that enable you to fly.
Both of them during Obama wailed about MSM narrative. Trump codifying "fake news" reinforced that. Right up until the MSM began saying Xiden won. Have fielded "it's over, election certified" and "Trump conceded" texts. Root of both MSM and yet they go right back to it and lap it up.
So I am saying no more. When it happens, it happens and I won't say I told you so as there is no point. They know where I was from 11/4 on.
It's not so much they are buying the media narrative again, it's that's 95% of their representatives just stabbed them in the back. Meanwhile the MSM and political elite are calling us domestic terrorists. People who stuck their necks out, like Lin Wood and Sidney Powell are being targeted for punishment. And Trump is back home and Biden is sitting in the Oval Office. That's not some narrative, that's the situation on the ground, at least as far as any of us can prove. Maybe there is still a plan, but I'm having a hard time believing that myself anymore. So I certainly can't hold it against anyone else for doubting.
It's dangerous to say this on GAW (downvote magnet) but Lin Wood and Powell and Giuliani are NOT very good ambassadors for the cause. Lin Wood, for example, comes across as totally unhinged. Powell and Giuliani don't do a great PR job either.
Would be nice if they kept the Patriots half in the loop, we have only put our entire personal lives at risk. Although I do feel like we are at an interesting point of peace, our efforts mattered until Election Day, now we can relax and watch the wind blow.
The best part is we will be the only ones prepared for the tyranny if it eventually comes crushing down instead of this daily trickle.
They need to be reminded that they caused their own devastation with their own "mis"interpretations. A swift kick in the a$$ should do nicely. Good grief
I think there are a lot of people who are woken up, but after Nov3, Jan6, and Jan20 have just given up hope of the good guys winning. It gets built up to “Oh my Gosh, if they win it’s all over. No more freedom, religion, guns, they will corrupt or children.” So people get utterly depressed, and shut down. That may be a good thing for some people, otherwise feelings of helplessness can make some climb bell towers with rifles. Have some mercy on them. They are a wake and know the truth the just can’t cope with the day to day trauma of it all.
What I've been saying for some time now is this - I've lived through Clinton and Obama. People's heads were exploding back then - take our guns, concentration camps, UN Helicopters, death panels ... but what happened was, the stock market has continued to rise and life has gone on. People want to believe that 'now is different' but history tells us otherwise. Biden is actually a much milder version of Obama, and won't be inviting the CCP to march in, won't be eating our babies. Life will go on. People have become addicted to online social media and it's proving to be a terrible thing. I remember a time when I couldn't even remember who was in the White House! Trump stoked that disease by relentless tweeting. I think Twitter has an awful lot to answer for (and Facebook).
They will be forced awake soon mate. Don't worry. ;)
And indeed, caution must be exercised.
The time to wake people up was pre election, doesn't matter anymore. I'm done trying. Either our efforts worked, and things are in motion, or we are completely fucked. Red pilling going forward is pointless.
I would say, we aren't completely fucked. Life will go on. 2024 will be a whole new ballgame.
If it gives you any hope, my friend was getting impatient that I still haven't given up on Q (been here since early 2018 so I don't think I can just give up lol, this isn't our first rodeo or "10 days of darkness")
He asked, "what specific date will you finally disavow?" that's when I said "I don't know, I can't give you a date, but I can say that I will stop believing when it is clear that nothing is happening." He brought up how nothing is happening and I corrected that only the news isn't reporting on what is happening.
I showed him the bulk of what we gathered here after inauguration day like Joe Biden's and others' weird movements and comments as if being escorted by police, the military in DC, the 21 gun salute, etc. He said "maybe you have a point, that all is weird" (good enough for me).
This was right before "10 days darkness" ended at the white house just as Myanmar military takes control.
I try to show him what I can about Q but I basically summarized it as "look all of these anons and I did not just stumble across a guy on the chans saying 'I'm a totally legit government insider and Hillary will be arrested' and outright go 'You son of a bitch, I'm in' because many of us had seen that before, (hey guys I'm a space alien doing a school project on Earthlings, AMA). We met it with necessary skepticism and over the course of 3 years have been unable to deny it's legitimacy within the Executive Branch, despite constant and sustained media attacks, getting banned from everywhere on Reddit for "ban evasion" (meaningless term now), and even family cutting us out and blaming us for it (whether or not we actually talk about Q to them or if they just watched MSNBC and got freaked out). I will show you the proofs if you want to take the time to go over every single one, but you can trust me that after reading every post for years that it is undeniable."
If I'm honest, I'm new here, and I haven't yet decided what Q is. What I have decided is that it is definitely something, and whatever that something is, it's not what the media want us to believe. Even without being bought into Q, no-one who has looked at the events of the last 6 months objectively can say that there aren't things that need explanation - there is NO DOUBT that some kind of Psyop has been run around the election, it is not yet 100% clear to me what the nature of the operation was, who was running it, or what Trump's involvement with it was, and because I'm unclear on that, I'm wary of what I communicate and who I communicate it to. Because I don't want to discredit myself or anything else by assuming an unwarranted certainty.
But what I can and do say to anyone who will listen is that an incredibly sophisticated Psyop has been run in the US over the last year or so, and to take anything that the media is saying at face value is just not wise. It has not yet been demonstrated what is to be trusted but something very significant is going on around Trump that most people are not seeing because they have been conditioned not to look for it. Again, I can't be certain what it is, but there's something there that warrants careful attention.
I think its good to be straight in our own minds about what we are absolutely CERTAIN of, and what we would like to be true, or think could be true, and just be very clear about that when communicating. The only way to convince anyone about anything is to first create in them the desire to actually know whatever it is that there is to know... Many people are not yet at that stage, and the wrong kind of certainty from someone who has already passed through that stage themselves can actually hinder that process... Just asking open ended questions can help I think - so long as you really want to listen to the answer... For example, what do you think of the media? What issues bother you about the media etc etc.
How did you explain to them the failure of one of the first (and most dramatic) Q predictions - HRC arrest Oct 30, 2017? That one event alone drives most people I know away.
from what I remember, his next post said that she was "detained, not arrested (yet)" and that was when she started wearing the boot, along with John M who couldn't decide which ankle was broken.
I believe them wearing the boot is what gave Q their first piece of credibility among anons
Are you suggesting she's been in detention ever since, and has always worn some sort of ankle device? To what end?
I was talking with an old friend last night. We both were heavily against the Covid lockdowns and restrictions in place here in Canada and thats what got us talking. He saw a post I made about Jen Psaki not having communications with Space Force and that Biden wasn't in control. He's a Trump supporter and agrees the election was fraudulent but asked what made me believe Biden wasn't in control.
I started off by avoiding Q and explaining all the events that I had saved and could recall that were very obvious the Military doesn't see Biden as President--marines not saluting at inauguration, hats being thrown down during parade, mil turning backs on Biden, the fake 21-gun salute, and so on and so forth.
He went on to say he sees it, but doesn't know how that would lead to anything. I redirected him to Myanmar.
Still, wasn't too sure.
I decided I'd open up about Q, give him drops, proofs.
The messages were read, but never replied to. It was rather disappointing.
A part of me wants to rub it in to everyone's face once it's all over with but I know thats not anyway to help society wake up.
My family and friends think I'm crazy.
But at least I've got Frens here.
WWG1WGA.
you can only get to Q through your own process... it takes time to look through it, evaluate it, start to make sense of it, and its absolutely right that everyone would approach it with extreme caution and skeptism and not take a friend's word for it... if it worked any other way it would not bring about the necessary change in thinking.
See, it's not skepticism or hesitation that would bother me. It was the complete blow off. No response, just left me hanging. Rather than a, "why do you believe this", or "oh, that's weird I couldn't get into that myself" there was nothing.
However I will agree with you in the sense that people need to find the Q movement and research for themselves. When I was first made aware of Q, I thought it was crazy, couldn't believe anything people told me. Fast forward to 2020, I decided to dig into it myself, and here we are.
We've got you?
The problem with pointing to Q is that there's so much stuff that is hard to swallow. Eg -Oct 30 2017; HRC. How do you rationalize that to someone who's questioning Q? And I personally think spinning the whole baby eating/adrenochrome angle is a terrible put-off for people. Why not just focus on the fact that HRC is a crazy bitch, a swamp dweller, etc - why try to suggest she murders babies? People see that stuff and run a mile.
There was no mention of baby eating, satanic cult rituals, adrenochrome, etc. Just because I brought up Q drops and showed QProofs doesn't mean I dropped a shitload of adrenochrome on him.. lol
Yeah, but as soon as you mention Q, people start searching, and that's what they find!
It’s always lonely at the top ?
I spent 3 years telling my husband that there will be arrests from Spygate. I look like a fool. Starting to feel like one, too.
The real patriots are the ones like us still on the wagon not the ones who fell off. But be damn sure when things really start hitting the fan in a very public way they will be running along side the wagon trying to hop back is saying they never left.
It has to be this way fren. It is GOD's way of separating the wheat from the chaff. It reminds me of the phrase "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". You did what you needed to do. You spread the word for them to accept or deny. I have found those that deny are not spiritual. They are an empty vessel. Kim Clement video would be a way to reach some. I have reached those that have not liked President Trump through Kim Clement. Now they are spreading the hope and joy that we carry with us.
Same. The road is narrow.
I really like pointing towards MSM and saying they know Q is real. I then also admit I’m not on the planning team, just an unpaid PR volunteer.
What's interesting about this is that the writer has no interest in understanding the person they are castigating at all. Everyone I know has some element of sloppyness, naivety, laziness... some defects in character and judgement, some biases in evaluating information... but the writer's words imply that they themselves sit outside of these traps that the rest of us fall into - that they have managed to escape such errors and so are now qualified to sit in judgement upon others...It is honestly the besetting sin of those who class themselves up as qualified to control the actions of others. The one thing that is always lacking is any form of humility...
This reminds me of a few friends of mine who have the same exact issue. Quick to judge my shortcomings as if they're beyond infallible, no honest attempts to understand my perspective, etc.
Cheers :) I would say that this is a distillation of what I learnt from a combination of Thomas Sowell and Marshall Rosenberg...
That sucks my dude. Full zombie.
Wow, the letter writer isn't just misguided and uninformed about a number of things. He's also rude and abusive. He could have made his (incorrect) points in a much more respectful manner. Friends don't talk to friends that way, even when disagreeing.
There is no simple answer for that. I try to answer in love whenever possible. It is hard to respond to hate, but a calm response to rage might work. All I can do is shake my head. I guess we help those who can be helped. I am sorry :(
I'm not saying anything either, just keeping it close to the vest until more happens.
Just share it! Say that you’re still skeptical but you can’t ignore it! And then say why would Q expose the pedos if he was in on it?
I would gladly come out of retirement and give up my V.A. Disability Pension to become a hangman for these..."people."
I've come to grips with it. This mess was made over centuries and we are an instant gratification mindset. The cabal plans things out for 100 and 1000 year schemes. That is why they have been winning. We can't last for 6 months. With that said .... it is not easy. I hate capitulating to the bad guys as much as anyone. We have to find our own peace and have BELIEF that this is going to happen. Once that sinks in ..... everything else becomes easier. Just by believing you are helping the movement. Knowing the outcome is CERTAIN but not the exact TIMING is hard on us but just imagine those who are guilty. The military has to make sure everyone has had every opportunity to come clean before the gauntlet falls. Then JUSTICE. NO DEALS.
It's just their way of asking you to shoot them in the balls.
I can understand that many of MAGA peeps are feeling down and having to face others with no answers. I am dealing with that off and on. I have finally gotten a few family members on board, but now they keep asking me why things are not happening, and they are afraid of what Biden is doing to the country in such a short time. I have no answer. I can say "trust the plan, trust God" only so many times before I get the "eye roll". I think Trump or Q team really NEEDS to drop us SOMETHING to hold on to right now. The Dems/DS/RINO's are wearing us down and it's becoming more difficult each day. We NEED a real WIN to help us keep going in these dark days.
"We are going to learn a lot about courage"
There is much about the Q movement that has revealed the truth. So much so that I would not want to go back to sleep in a matrix where horrific things are done to children. My discernment is razor sharp. Some people simply are “sunshine Patriots,” you are not one of those.
I have a coworker, pretty red pilled, conservative as they come. Even with what I've shared and shown, doesn't believe in the plan. He won't stop listening to local talk radio and his wife has MSM on. Besides watching it for intel and making fun of them, we don't need to be listening as it's all horse shit. Very frustrating.
And that brilliant, rational move is somehow deemed crazy is this clown world
How about don't go back to farcebook or twatter because their companies like to ban trump supporters, conservatives, and "misinformation" that makes the left look bad for no reason whatsoever and sell all your personal data to third party companies. I quit farcebook and twatter a long time ago.
Back when Facebook started, I asked one of my best friends about staying connected through any chat platform. He pointed out, "I don't even have enough time for the friends and family that do matter to me right now. If they REALLY want to stay connected with me, they will find a way."
We've known each other for 20 years and still talk on a daily basis. We're not on Facebook or Twitter.
Agreed; MANY folks feel they're dependent on these online platforms whatever the reason may be. It's not like we haven't had other means of keeping up with those who ARE WORTH MAINTAINING relationships with but that's a whole other can of interpersonal worms.
I firmly believe the advent of platforms like these has obliterated the real, human-to-human communities people had not that long ago despite their decline having been ongoing for decades at least. Technology only sped it up exponentially, much to the ruling class' glee.
Lead by example, and if they won't meet you halfway in maintaining the relationship then they aren't worth the time. This is a hard and terrible pill to swallow for those that believe that family is/should be inseparable, yet have abusive and manipulative family members/friends that really should be cut-out.
Then again, anything worth having isn't easily gained.
You know what I do to reach out to people? I do one of three things:
Text them.
Call them.
Visit them IRL.
Believe me or not, it actually works.
Most of my family is in Europe with 8 hr difference. Texting sucks (and costs a lot internationally). Calling ditto. Visiting - ditto. WhatsApp and Skype work quite well.
I'm happy to hear you have options.
My main point was to convey, we have lots of options. FB and Twitter going away or blocking is far from the end of the world.
I was just talking to my sister, their school group is flagged on Facebook because they asked questions about curriculum. I told her to have an alternate forum ready, they will shut them down.
This is very true. My entire family is leftist and I am not on any social media platform with them.
However, we all stay in touch via group chat on our phones and sharing pictures of family through that means. It was the only way I could stay close to them. When I had the platforms I found myself hating them because I was viewing their rants on politics. We all agreed no politics or religious discussion in the family chats. That is sad of course but at least I won't lose my family whom I do love.
I stopped posting to FB back in March 2020. Never announced I was leaving, just stopped posting. Out of my 300+ friends, fewer than 5 have contacted me via text or messenger since then. I only still have my personal page so I can manage my business page. I don’t miss it, and my real friends have kept in contact. Good riddance to it.
There's many other platforms that value free-speech that you can refer your family to. That's what I did.
facebook and twitter will never change, they are run by authoritarian socialists and they will always be that way
that's what you get for datefagging
If anyone here went back in time to 2017 and said NOTHING would happen regarding Q before November 2020, people would have blasted them for being doomers and doubters. If Biden winning was part of the plan, then not one of us had any idea what the plan ever was. Everything is being retconned now to try to account for present reality.
trust the plan lol
Don't ever go back to facebook or twitter.
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