Congress has no authority to do that. It would have to be done in a court action. In fact, for Congress to do it would be a bill of attainder, which is expressly prohibited in the Constitution.
So, that means ... they will probably give it a shot.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
I don't think that they could do this unless he was explicitly found guilty of insurrection, which at this point he hasn't. Smoke in mirrors IMO
"...shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
Wow, after watching the defenses video of Maxine Waters, Nancy and all of the others...by this standard, NONE of these political traitors should ever be able to run again for another term.
It doesn't matter what YOU think. A14, Section 3 clearly allows whatever Senate wants. Chucky said a week ago he will not entertain that, but that was when they thought they had impeachment votes. Now that Pelosi EXPRESSLY mentioned censure, even if she said SHE won't do it, I would actually bet on them to do that. No need in the House, just Senate, and so far Chucky has been quiet since yesterday.
Does anyone actually read the Constitution, and if so, comprehend what it says? This has been a sore point on this board, way too many legends in their minds offering opinions based on emotions and nothing else.
Wrong.... The communists would have done this already if they could do it that easily. The 14th amendment requires a 2/3 vote from both sides of congress.... Stop pushing fear porn....
They could only block him from office via 14A if he were actually found guilty of insurrection by a court or military tribunal. The 2/3 requirement is to remove such a block.
Once again they are literally violating the Constitution with their actions. The 14th Amendment, Clause 3 CLEARLY says it applies to someone in office.
Of course, this Clause also applies to all the House and Senate members that are have blatantly been violating the Constitution since January 6th with this whole fiasco.
I don't think the Democrats realize that Trump can do far more as a private citizen organizing a bloc of 75-100 million Americans than he could as an elected official. In fact, he could bolster the populist-nationalist movements worldwide and become the anti- George Soros.
"Now that former Pres. Trump has been acquitted, Democrats now want Congress to vote to invoke Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which prevents anyone who has “engaged in insurrection” against the US from holding office. This can be done with a simple majority vote.” He was acquitted of "insurrection" by the Senate, so how can he have "engaged in insurrection" which is the very thing the Senate says he didn't do? Oh yea...even their own ruling from the day before means nothing to them.
He was only acquitted because [they] didn't get the necessary votes required for it. But it's clear that the majority of BOTH Houses of Congress believe he's guilty.
And they've already talked about taking this to the criminal and civil court levels. So, this is far from over.
Shielded and insulated from impeachment as pointed out by Q? Yes.
Shielded and insulated from a corrupt Judicial System and DOJ? NO, not in the slightest.
OMG they are stupid. They were afraid of witnesses in the impeachment hearing what do they think would happen in a criminal hearing. Even if they got an absolutely corrupt judge, evidence would be presented for the world to see.
No worries!!!! There is hope.... he is going to lead this movement and other worthy smart people will come forward. The gloves come off and he has it all!! Why no witnesses at hearing after Democrat managers demanded them....fear of the truth!
Doesn't matter as long as Dominion / Smartmatic are still being used. Nothing really matters politically as long as the elections themselves are corrupt.
Pretty sure they can save all that beautiful bean footage of the last 4 years. Get a few tossed out of the whole corrupt establishment. From BOTH sides and the middle. Buncha hypocrites and self-appointed lords and ladies. Gross..it is just gross.
This is ludicrous. The congress can convict someone of insurrection on a majority vote? That violates due process and it could not stand up in court (SC if necessary). Otherwise, any politician could be treated the same way by the other side if it has the majority. Greene, Hawley, Jordan, et al could all be convicted of insurrection, be removed and unable to run again.
Did the vote "split" this time when they won? No, they cheated. That's the answer you are looking for. There is no 2024 without resolving this election and if we do, Trump is president and he can't run in 2024 anyway unless they change the constitution.
[they]'ll try and most likely succeed until SCOTUS gets involved, IF they get involved in that particular case.
[Those] that make the rules have seen fit to change the rules any time [they] don't get what [they] want. And it's been going on since America's inception.
It's why our Constitution is ACTUALLY the Constitution for the U.S. Corp, and not the original.
Expect Trump to get handed a loss at some point, so you can be better prepared for it when it finally happens.
I highly doubt anyone has the authority to vote and stop someone from running. That makes absolutely no sense otherwise they would have done it the first time. Also would mean that they have control of anyone who gets in that is pure horse shit.
I don't think they can legally do that. If they do, Trump should just ignore it and run again of they want. I really think they are trying to start a civil war.
Congress has no authority to do that. It would have to be done in a court action. In fact, for Congress to do it would be a bill of attainder, which is expressly prohibited in the Constitution.
So, that means ... they will probably give it a shot.
Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
I don't think that they could do this unless he was explicitly found guilty of insurrection, which at this point he hasn't. Smoke in mirrors IMO
"...shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
Wow, after watching the defenses video of Maxine Waters, Nancy and all of the others...by this standard, NONE of these political traitors should ever be able to run again for another term.
"But congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such a disability."
That sounds like congress can allow such a person to hold office if each house votes 2/3 for that requirement to be dismissed.
RE: Congress has no authority to do that
It doesn't matter what YOU think. A14, Section 3 clearly allows whatever Senate wants. Chucky said a week ago he will not entertain that, but that was when they thought they had impeachment votes. Now that Pelosi EXPRESSLY mentioned censure, even if she said SHE won't do it, I would actually bet on them to do that. No need in the House, just Senate, and so far Chucky has been quiet since yesterday.
Does anyone actually read the Constitution, and if so, comprehend what it says? This has been a sore point on this board, way too many legends in their minds offering opinions based on emotions and nothing else.
Ha. Exactly.
Wrong.... The communists would have done this already if they could do it that easily. The 14th amendment requires a 2/3 vote from both sides of congress.... Stop pushing fear porn....
They could only block him from office via 14A if he were actually found guilty of insurrection by a court or military tribunal. The 2/3 requirement is to remove such a block.
SIMPLE MAJORITY.
Once again they are literally violating the Constitution with their actions. The 14th Amendment, Clause 3 CLEARLY says it applies to someone in office.
Of course, this Clause also applies to all the House and Senate members that are have blatantly been violating the Constitution since January 6th with this whole fiasco.
I don't think the Democrats realize that Trump can do far more as a private citizen organizing a bloc of 75-100 million Americans than he could as an elected official. In fact, he could bolster the populist-nationalist movements worldwide and become the anti- George Soros.
"Now that former Pres. Trump has been acquitted, Democrats now want Congress to vote to invoke Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which prevents anyone who has “engaged in insurrection” against the US from holding office. This can be done with a simple majority vote.” He was acquitted of "insurrection" by the Senate, so how can he have "engaged in insurrection" which is the very thing the Senate says he didn't do? Oh yea...even their own ruling from the day before means nothing to them.
He was only acquitted because [they] didn't get the necessary votes required for it. But it's clear that the majority of BOTH Houses of Congress believe he's guilty.
And they've already talked about taking this to the criminal and civil court levels. So, this is far from over.
Shielded and insulated from impeachment as pointed out by Q? Yes.
Shielded and insulated from a corrupt Judicial System and DOJ? NO, not in the slightest.
Which is why Q has said multiple times:
"The MILITARY is the ONLY way."
I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if they try this Mon. Oh wait it's a paid joliday for our rulers. OK Tues.
OMG they are stupid. They were afraid of witnesses in the impeachment hearing what do they think would happen in a criminal hearing. Even if they got an absolutely corrupt judge, evidence would be presented for the world to see.
No worries!!!! There is hope.... he is going to lead this movement and other worthy smart people will come forward. The gloves come off and he has it all!! Why no witnesses at hearing after Democrat managers demanded them....fear of the truth!
Doesn't matter as long as Dominion / Smartmatic are still being used. Nothing really matters politically as long as the elections themselves are corrupt.
Pretty sure they can save all that beautiful bean footage of the last 4 years. Get a few tossed out of the whole corrupt establishment. From BOTH sides and the middle. Buncha hypocrites and self-appointed lords and ladies. Gross..it is just gross.
This is ludicrous. The congress can convict someone of insurrection on a majority vote? That violates due process and it could not stand up in court (SC if necessary). Otherwise, any politician could be treated the same way by the other side if it has the majority. Greene, Hawley, Jordan, et al could all be convicted of insurrection, be removed and unable to run again.
So what happens if they ban him and the will of the people still vote him in?
Did the vote "split" this time when they won? No, they cheated. That's the answer you are looking for. There is no 2024 without resolving this election and if we do, Trump is president and he can't run in 2024 anyway unless they change the constitution.
Theres still an other box that you can fill in the name of your choice.
That would be a form of double jeopardy...they can't do it.
McConnell already confirmed that he will help the Dems!
[they]'ll try and most likely succeed until SCOTUS gets involved, IF they get involved in that particular case.
[Those] that make the rules have seen fit to change the rules any time [they] don't get what [they] want. And it's been going on since America's inception.
It's why our Constitution is ACTUALLY the Constitution for the U.S. Corp, and not the original.
Expect Trump to get handed a loss at some point, so you can be better prepared for it when it finally happens.
I highly doubt anyone has the authority to vote and stop someone from running. That makes absolutely no sense otherwise they would have done it the first time. Also would mean that they have control of anyone who gets in that is pure horse shit.
I don't think they can legally do that. If they do, Trump should just ignore it and run again of they want. I really think they are trying to start a civil war.
Do we not have any laws against outright HARASSMENT and bullying???
I mean What the Fuck???
yeah and I assure you they will