I need to clear the air with my white brothers and sisters.
The common thing I hear about black folks is the whole CRIME thing.
I am not going to dodge that and to say it's not true. We have a MAJOR crime issue that needs to stop.
My disagreement with white folks are the people who think it's some CULTURAL / GENETIC code that causes this.
That is the biggest bullshit type of thinking I have ever heard lol.
Most crime is committed by EMOTIONAL boys who act in impluse.
Do you know what makes a boy emotional???
Him being raised by SINGLE MOTHERS / GRANDMOTHERS.
This is a norm in most black areas. No man in the house at all.
If there is a man. He was raised without a father to.
I am one of the lucky black guys. My brother and I are software engineers.
Our parents were together for over 40 years. Until my dad died from cancer.
If you study Africa. That country has been INVADED many many times throughout history. An invasion will naturally BREAK UP families in the process.
So why did I title this "Black Conservatives" vs "Black Liberals".
Haven't you noticed?
The black person that is called "The Sellout / Uncle Tom". Is never the one BEHIND BARS? Is never the one stealing or commiting crime?
Do you know why? It's because a lot of Black Conservatives like myself understand how important the family is. How important that both a man and woman need to be there.
The black criminals are mostly from single mom homes. These homes are results of DEMOCRAT / LEFTIST policies like WELFARE!!!!
Moral values comes from the home first.
If a white person is racist and wants to live amoung whites only. That point of view is sparked by their home environment first.
It's time for people to come together. To push FAMILY VALUES first!
It's not genetic of course, but it is cultural. Not "black" culture mind you, but ghetto/hip-hop/drug/street/gang culture that is purposely created (by actual rich racist white men no less) to destroy "black" culture.
Destroy the nuclear family, then give them an outlet of frustration and anger (hip-hop, etc.), then lace that outlet with sex, drugs, and violence and watch them destroy themselves. That's what the elite does to every group they intend to use as pawns/scapegoats.
Thankfully it seems we're moving away from that as Hollywood and the music industry continue to get exposed.
I see your point. But I go deep then that.
It's values first.
For Example: I listened to NWA and other ganster rap when I was kid. My dad explained to my brother and I.
How that is just music and to not take it seriously. He taught us how to logically seperate "Fact" from "Fiction".
This was a value structure he created for us.
A value structure that is strong. Can survive through a "fabricated" culture like rap.
Yes, we're in agreement here. I was just stating that values come largely from one's culture, and it's that poisonous (manufactured) culture that produces such harmful (or lack thereof) values.
But by destroying the nuclear family, and therefore the culture, they are destroying the values of said culture.
We get rid of these toxic cultures by pushing real family values again which will then restore the authentic/genuine culture. Your father instilled those values ("culture") in you, so you were "immunized" against the corruption, but most who do fall prey to it have had their culture/values taken away and instead only had the toxic replacement.
I believe we're on the same page, just addressing it from different angles. :)
Restore and push family values > Culture restored with family values Take back our culture > Family values restored with a more sincere culture
Well said.
It sound like you had a great and caring dad!
I did. He was a great guy!
I knew a lot of the players on my college football team (who happened to be black) and several of them came from two parent homes. They spoke more intelligently, they had more sense about money, and they weren't as caught up in frivolous trends.
That's the white privilege nobody wants to talk about and also why Asians are the best students. Percentage of single parent households.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/1729,37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
Ben Carson came from a single parent household, but his mother converted to Seventh Day Adventism and raised him as a Christian. Who knows how he would have ended up otherwise.
I disagree that music can't influence culture... what about all the rock songs that contain satanic/pedo references and the pop music that comes from Pedowood? Clearly these artists are trying to push messages to divide us.
White culture is just as degraded in many ways.
We replaced John Wayne with soy boys.
The white single parent rate is not twice as high as the black single parent rate was in the 50's. It's a tragedy, honestly. India and China know that breaking up the home leads to the decline of civilization. That's why they don't buy into the transgender propaganda.
I agree with the cultural aspect. It's weird how the hip hop scene has become so unnatural, as if it was manufactured? Most classy Black Americans think the current hip hop culture is complete crap. They want good music, not the easy beats and weird porno vibes it's been giving.
There is a gene called the warrior gene that is more common in blacks it’s called mono amine oxidase. When in a high stress or tense situation it causes the person to over agress. Nature and nurture here we are growing up in high stress situations ,broken homes no fathers , fighting from a young age . The barrier limit to that gene kicking is now very sensitive from being on high alert too often and or worn down from environment . Which i take to Be why many in my community can be set off at the smallest perceived slight. ( black male if that matters)
It wasn’t white people behind the whole gangsta rap thing. White people do not own record labels or media companies. BET is not owned by a white man, it is owned by a Jewish man. All those record labels and media companies are owned by Jewish men. White people are slaves to this too just like the blacks are. We should be careful about telling black people that white people have done all these bad things to them because it’s not true. Most black slaves were bought, sold, and owned by Jewish people. If blacks really want to go after the people who fucked them over, it’s not white people pulling those strings.
By acknowledging that the elites are pretty much all "white" isn't saying to people that the white people are responsible, it's stating these specific ones are responsible for enslaving all of us, regardless of our race. Nobody is saying anybody should go after any whole group of people, that's you inferring that and then trying to direct that onto Jewish people.
Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc. might be (posing as) Jewish, but they're also considered "white" by pretty much anybody that looks at them, lol. It's a skin tone, it has nothing to do with their religion or ideology.
I only mentioned the fact that the specific people in charge happened to be "white," but now you're using the terms of "white people" and "black people" and "Jewish people" in rather generalized terms, assuming they can't separate the corrupt elites from regular people. Non-Jewish white people are capable of evil too, it's not just the "joos".
Who do you think foisted that belief structure onto the Black Community? It damn sure wasn't the Black Community. And it wasn't white, conservative America, either.
I never said "white conservative," thanks for playing.
This is a major topic in Larry Elder's documentary "Uncle Tom".
I have seen the movie. It was a good movie.
is that on youtubes?
Definitely. Fathers not being in the home and not being married is also effecting white people too. What they've done to black people they want to do to all of us. Forget about Africa being invaded. If you look at black people in the 30s/40s/50s, their rate of two parents in the home was sometimes better than whites. But following the civil rights act, and then you get into welfare and social programs for black people, that is when it all took a nose dive.
And then there's other factors like people rejecting God. We have gone far off the path in the USA.
The Deep State and Cabal want to push the inner city welfare model onto everybody now. Black people were just the trial run of their universal basic 'income' system, and the Deep State was successful. They don't want anybody to make their own living except for scientists/engineers and professors. This explains why the elites look down on electricians/contractors/plumbers. They despise anybody that is self-reliant.
100%
It's absolutely a cultural thing.
When a group of people have children 70% of the time out of wedlock, that's the CULTURE of that group.
Add to that a CULTURE that glorifies rap which glorifies thug culture.
When a black kid who does well in school is bullied and told that he's "acting white", that's a CULTURAL thing.
When grown black men would rather sell incense and Africana trinkets from a folding table on a main street than work a legitimate job because it's seen as "working for the man", that's a CULTURAL thing.
I can go on and on from citing something called the Gini Coefficient which debunks the idea that poverty causes crime to getting into specific examples, and I will if you ask me to, however for brevity's sake, I am 100% convinced it is a CULTURAL problem in the black community.
That said, I would still rather live in a neighborhood with black conservatives rather than white liberals.
Here is where I disagree.
A culture is always formed by "MARKETING & SALES". For Example: Hair styles and music is a form of culture.
These things will change over time. Cultural norms will come and go.
Innovators and Entrepreneurs are responsible to create culture.
Some of them are good. Some of them are bad.
A person's moral values should be simple like the 10 Commandments. Those are my values. These values came from my parents and religous influence.
So as very forms of culture comes and goes. I will know which forms of culture to accept and reject.
You need a CORE values system. In order to make the right decision.
Black kids aren't given a true foundational values system.
You are right about the culture of shunning white values being destructive, and the culture of silence is a huge problem (ironically shared by Blacks and police!). But I believe it is also true that the DS drops off cartons of illegal guns as leverage in Black neighborhoods to trap young Blacks into a jail and felony cycle, which then affects their ability to get a mainstream job and provide for a family, which then makes it impossible for mothers to do anything but stay on the govt dole. DS uses the community they have created as a weapon of destruction of society.
Yes! As a foster parent, I see some much of single family homes, drugs, and violence. We bring these children in and try to show them a “normal family” setting. It’s very hard for them to accept. Some children won’t connect with a male or female depending on who they trusted in their life. It’s very hard for them to adjust and accept. Bad things are instilled in them and it’s a fight to get them see a different way of life. I pray that some of these children look back later and thank me. Sometimes I feel as if I’m fighting a losing battle. It’s very hard!
God Bless you for doing this. I was a foster mom for 3 months but mainly so I could adopt an infant. (I could not have kids). In my county those were the only kids available to adopt but you had to get lucky.
I was given a 2 month old male. I fell in love with the child after only two weeks and was so upset that I had to return him after three months. I could never be a foster parent after that. I just got too attached. It was the hardest thing I ever did in my life to hand that baby back.
It’s the worst when they leave!
As long as you continue to fight, you cannot lose. You can only win.
So much love for people like you.
Thank you!
Institutional racism is real. And it’s called the democrat party.
Amen, Amen, AMEN. Absolutely correct. Thank you for your post!
What causes a massive increase over decades of single black mothers? A culture that develops based on the War on Poverty era welfare and the continuous expansion of that system. It is a cultural problem, but one that has been primarily caused by the government over generations. It isn't an exclusively black problem certainly, as seen by how single motherhood is also generally on the rise, but it is certainly a problem created by a culture dependent on government
Policies of "Good Intensions" were the cause of this single black mothers. I don't consider this cultural.
Because we never asked for this. It was given to us and pushed by government propaganda.
Once it was accepted because of the "Good Intensions".
The side effects was a DIASTER!
Most black men want to work! It is now the black female that runs the head of the home.
A big problem is also the race hustlers screaming from the pulpit. Men like Al Sharpton have carefully cultivated the notion that all Blacks are victims and then he tells them its all whiteys fault. All the while hes making BANK off the Black communities misery.
(It really is whiteys fault. Just not in the way they frame it. It is the fault of mostly Democrat Party policies, also known as the plantation, that have destroyed the family and forced the dependence on welfare and other 'nanny state' programs that disallow a male presence in the home if you want the ca$h. Policies that promote promiscuity and then place abortion mills predominantly in Black neighborhoods. These policies are increasingly being used on whites and hispanics too. And they are used deliberately to increase their wealth and their power over the cattle, meaning all of us together.)
Sundance at https://theconservativetreehouse.com/ did a couple articles pre-election on how the race hustlers in Congress, specifically Clyburn, play the AME off against BLM.
Im white and I have always thought of my self as a believer in Dr. Kings assertion that it is not the color of a persons skin but the content of their character. This message has been lost, altered and bastardized by todays brand of "civil rights" leaders. All they can do is tell you who to blame and whip up hate.
thephantom1979, you are my brother. Dont ever let these evil tyrants tell you or your children different. And Im willing to bet my life that outside a few bad seeds the massive majority of white people feel the same as I do.
I agree with you brother!
The Race Hustlers are a major part of this as well. Read a book called "Color, Communism and Common Sense".
It's a quick read.
Which continues the cycle of emotional responses that leads to the crime and dropping out of school like you said. I very much agree. Like a discussion you had earlier in this board. It is the lack of fathers. But that has become the main "culture" due to the horrible policies of the left disguised to help. They knew what they were doing to destroy this community. When people like Ben Carson are demonized and called not really black or trying to be white that isn't coming from whites. That is coming from his own people. So it is in part in the culture now. But like someone else also said earlier, it isn't black culture. It is the ghetto/brain washed mindset that has been been on blast 24/7 for decades. It keeps continuing every generation when the bulk of that generation doesn't break the cycle by not trying to live rap videos in real life. Crime forces out jobs and investment so the next generation then starts back again. That's how the cycle works. Everyone brain washed to tell you the only way to have anything is sell drugs or be violent. That generation then is constantly in and out of prison. This crime moves businesses. Next generation then starts with nothing and the cycle continues. I still see people daily yanking toddlers by the arm when they see a police officer and tell them they are bad and hurt your daddy. The propaganda was so effective that the system gets a head start when the mother is telling her child the same stuff before they even could possibly understand anything on MSM or social media.
Great post!
ALL boys need a father to teach them to be a man. We used to have strong male teachers, great coaches, boy scouts, youth ministers, and neighborhood police officers. Boys had real life male roll models. Now they have rap thugs and sports stars who are dumber than a box of rocks.
The Pilanesberg National Park had a fatherless group of young male elephants viscously attacking the park’s other inhabitants. Over 50 badly mutilated rhino carcasses were discovered. The group of young rogue elephants were uncharacteristically agressive and angry. The wildlife park was in chaos.
Finnally, a doctor named Gus Van Dyk figured out the problem. In the late 1970s, Pilanesberg National Park had been seeded with elephants from other national parks, like Kruger. Huge bull elephants were extremely difficult to transport, so young males, females and babies were introduced. As a result, there were no older bull elephants.
Dr. Gus introduced six large bulls from Kruger National Park, who towered over the adolescents, and literally within hours, the teen thugs had dropped out of musth (aggressive state). No more animals were killed by rampaging youngsters.
This musth story was used in an American academic paper as an example in human adolescence of the importance of a stable society and a father figure to provide boundaries for teen males. The young males that were getting into these elephant gangs had no template of good social behavior and were at the mercy of their rampaging hormones, which was putting them at as much risk as those around them. (Father's also teach their girls self respect!)
"Male toxicity" is bullshit. We desperately NEED strong men.
Well said!
100% This is what the majority thinks...the other negative narratives are megaphoned from media and the tiny percent that fall for it.
Amen brother.
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BEAUTIFULLY stated!
The deep state has spent decades (if not longer) deliberately undermining the black community. They do this to create a powerless and easily controlled subset of the world population. It's not genetic and it's not organically cultural, either.
The whole Uncle Tom thing - if you value the family, education, faith, financial stability, etc., then you're acting too 'white' - is all about separating black people from their innate desire to be wholly autonomous and powerful beings. The deep state can't allow that as it interferes with their world control plans.
Thank you for posting. Your message is very, very necessary.
I 100% agree.
I used to work in the inner city as a traveling therapist. And I agree with your statements.
There is a big problem there with Single moms. And this isn't just about Black families but almost ANY family that lives in the inner cities. Blacks and Hispanics made up the majority of the inhabitants in the city where I worked but there were also some white people there, too.
The Government destroyed the family units when they made it easier for women to Welfare. Think Lyndon Johnson passing the Civil Rights act in the 60's.
Some of my single moms did not marry the father of their kids so they could get their welfare and some of them still get some support under the table from their man. They knew how to work the system.
In essence the dads are then free to walk the streets due to no marriage commitments to the mothers of their children.
My heart went out to good working class families trapped in the crime ridden city where I used to work as they could not seem to afford anything else. There are still some good people who live there. The bad make it worst for all who live there.
YES!
Women are now have incentives to have more kids. So the state can give them more money!
The government replaced the church in the 1960s and even made it illegal for 501(c)3 organizations to help out people in the community with a car payment or a house/rent payment.
Black white or whatever, the value of father's in their children's lives is of the utmost importance. Outsourcing the role to big government is the ruin of so much of society. It gives deadbeat dad's an easy exit while the rest of the community has to pay for the welfare and inevitable criminal costs. The older I get the more thankful for the consistency of my father and try to apply it now to my own children.
I don't remember where I heard this, but I remember listening to the testimony of somebody who was some sort of volunteer prison worker (she would visiting inmates, stuff like that. Memory's a bit fuzzy on the specifics). The gist of her testimony was that, regardless of race, in excess of 90 PERCENT of all the inmates in that prison did NOT have a father figure growing up. It is ABSOLUTELY not the fault of race or genetics. Surprise, surprise, it's the fault of the democrat championed welfare system that rewards single moms for having more kids.
Family values and morality is the cure-all for every single problem we face as a society today.
This is 100% correct!
Most men in jail have no father figure at all.
You should read Thomas Sowell's Black Rednecks and White Liberals
Glad you said it. Black men that grew up before the demoncraps started their campaign to destroy black families in the 60's were polite and self-sufficient. Instead of just hearing this second or third hand from elders, people should go look at Black family pictures and work environments from the 50's and see for themselves. Black families were moving up socially back then and owned houses and went to church. The U.S. was headed for a golden time of prosperity and cohesion and we should all weep for its loss. 60's policies were designed to destroy the middle class, set races against each other, make people dependent on the State, and reward women for being single mothers. How to fix it? Trump was on his way by getting the community back to work with off-the-chart historical unemployment lows. Put the blame where it always lies: with the demoncraps, not the race.
Agree 100%. We are finally seeing the consequences of the failed liberal ideology of the 1960s. The democrats’ passage of the so-called civil rights act, the forced integration of schools and the forced repeal of Jim Crow laws caused the issues in the black community we continue to see today. We should not have forced blacks to integrate with whites against their will, then or now. It destroyed the black family unit, and we see now the criminals it has created.
+1 updoot for this brother. I love redpilling people with Larry Elder interviews where he speaks to this dynamic being the single greatest issue plaguing black communities today.
Edit: for anyone who hasn't seen it already, check out this Larry Elder vs Dave Rubin interview. Larry gives a lot of facts to support his position. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IFqVNPwsLNo
Amen brother. That’s just about the best way I’ve ever heard that described. And it goes for all people. We have been at war for decades, and the front is in our homes, our schools, places of employment. Break up the families and you’ll have nobody left to fight.
This is 100% the truth.
They dismantled the black community, and they're coming for everyone else too.
I'm a white man raised by a single mum and a family of women and I have the opposite problem - I have no emotions at all. But then that is still a problem and a result of not having a father to balance things out.
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Great analysis OP.
I have seen it. Very good movie!
Bravo! Its not cultural. Its political. We ALL need to wake up and see the difference.
Many white people agree with you. Most of us do not espouse those kind of racist garbage that gets spouted on here.
We do need our black brothers, sisters, and elders to rise up and take the stand for those conservative (Biblical, even) values. Although I try to set a good example for the young people I work with, there are things you can say to them that I can't.
And the black community is the only thing that can convince them that liking science, and math, and being smart isn't a "white" thing. Rather than dumb things down, ["math is racist," that came out during the summer riots], we need to make it socially acceptable to excel in these areas.
We need each other! God made us all in His image. God bless!
Who's the Michael Jordan of mathematics? Honestly, Thomas Sowell should be a household name regardless of what race you happen to be a member of.
Amen brother!
Absolutely true. Consider the case of Nigerian immigrants. They have strong close knit families. They strongly favor and value higher education.
As a result they are the most successful immigrant group in the US. They are getting graduate degrees, professional degrees like doctors and engineers and they start businesses at higher rates than any other group.
Last time I checked, Nigerians are black. This also disproves the idea of systematic racism. The only thing systematic about our culture is it's war on the nuclear family. We've inherited this satanic liberal mindset from the soviet era active measures program designed to destroy the US.
You are absolutely right. Candace Owens and Denzel Washington have both said absent fathers were the biggest threat to the black community, not the racism/white supremacy red herring the media puts forth.
The black community was the first attempt to destroy the nuclear family and they were extremely successful. This let them create the pretext of a race war to divide us all now.
They are currently attempting to destroy the nuclear family in other communities now. I absolutely believe that Feminism and the hookup culture and college push for women is a major factor in destroying it. Add in sexualizing our youth and exposing them to it 24/7 in media and the demonizing of straight hard working men in tv/film and its obvious. I can't watch almost any show or movie the last decade because they are all so full of shit treating any male lead who isn't gay as dumb focusing on his identity (race) as the defining feature about them. Even the gay Bros get their sexuality as the main focus and not any other aspect of their character. It's disgusting and serves only to propogandize the sheep that race and sexuality are your defining traits.
I know a someone who will not get married to the father of her child because she will not get any money/food stamps/health care from the government. The system is broken.
I wholeheartedly concur with everything you stated, Anon.
Ann coulter stated that also, the fact of the link between black crime and fatherless homes. Media ignores it, strangely. Instead they all glorify the rap/thug/baggy pant ‘culture’