Not an attorney - just have a pacer account. Anyone can get a pacer account (I don't remember the cutoff amount, but if you use less than a certain dollar amount of views in a quarter, it's free - this is to keep in-line with "free public access" requirements).
It's 0.10 a page for documents/records, same 0.10 for queries/transactions. I usually do not incur charges each quarter. Depends on what I'm curious about or looking for.
For this, you all are welcome - there were about 30 pages of current filings. So, not a bad $3 spend.
Seriously, it's worth it to have a pacer account. Used it to look up lis pendis and bankruptcy info on a property we were looking at to figure out if liens or title would be a problem in advance. It's very handy to have.
The doctor was in a plane that crashed into water near the coast, while she initially survived, she died of a heart attack while in the water with life vest on waiting for rescue. While everyone else survived.
There are some that will post grainy footage trying to make it look like a frogman assassinated her while she was wading in the water, but I've seen the high def footage and it's definitely NOT a diver there. It's fake, but still strange the way she died.
Wasn't one parent?
He has a brother In Kenya,
He was supposedly born in Kenya but has a Birth certificate issued in Hawaii, but one parent would have to be American for that to be a properly issued certificate.
Yep, my husbands American and our children weren’t born in the US but have citizenship. It’s documented that they were born abroad and we always joked they could never be president.
Correct. Her mother is from a high caste Indian family, and her father Jamaican. Both in the US under a visa when she was born, and not naturalised citizens of the USA, hence she does not qualify to be in office. But just like BHO it's all swept under the carpet.
I don't know if it got repealed but interestingly found an article from August 2019 saying "under his (Trump) supervision cancelled the automatic citizenship for the children of some US service members and US government employees living abroad and children of non-citizens born in the United States."
I could only find this "PA-2019-05" which was an announcement about the changes being made, not sure if it's still in place though.
Civil case docketed: 2/10
Briefing schedule set on 2/12 - brief and appendix due 3/24. Appellee's brief due 30 days following appellant's brief. Appellant has 21 days to respond to appellee's response.
Filing fee paid 2/12.
3/1 - Notice issued. After 3/15, 2 attorneys will no longer receive notice of court issued documents unless they register for an appellate ECF account.
3/2 - Notice of appearance on behalf of appellees J. R. Biden Jr, Kamala D Harris and Mike Pence filed by John G. Osborn.
Defendants:
Kamala D Harris
Joseph R Biden Jr
Democratic National Committee
Maine State Democratic Committee
Main Secretary of State
John Does
Michael R Pence
Summons in original case issued to Defendants on 1/15
Kamala Harris served 1/15
Pence served 1/15
Maine DC served 1/19
Sec of State served 1/19
Summons returned unexecuted for Biden - 1/19
The reason for the birth certificate:
January 13 order denying plaintiffs motion for TRO instructed plaintiff to demonstrate proper service of summons and complaint; provide rule 65 certification as to what attempts were made to give notice on TRO; and show standing.
"The plaintiff states that his standing arose on 11/3/20 when he was first harmed when he was presented with a federal election ballot containing an Unconstitutionally Qualified Democratic Party Slate for President of the United States." (i.e.: Kamala can't be presented for VP slot as she is not constitutionally qualified to be president - does NOT matter that she's in VP slot.)
This is the argument that "natural born citizen" does not mean "born on US soil" but "born to two naturalized US citizens"
Original case dismissed 1/20. Appeal filed 1/29.
Finally, Robert Dyer (appellate) represented case, and continues to do so on appeal, pro se.
this leads me to think that this bizarro world is the result of Q, military, trump, white hats having huge wins on the battle grounds but the MSM is covering all this stuff for them, like a dam with new holes popping up every day. they are trying to plug the holes but eventually the whole dam will come crashing down
this further makes me think they are the ones filling Xiden and other spots to try to keep up appearances !
Imagine... if they first kick out Xiden using the 25th amendment, then when Prez Harris takes office, they make Killary the VP.
When they need to remove Kamala so Killary can be President, they simply declare her disqualified due to "natural born citizen" question, then move up Hillary as Prez.
On the plus side, they won't need to nuke an American city that Prez Harris is visiting. The cabal will blow up entire airplanes to eliminate one person, so it's double-convenient to eliminate Harris and start a big profitable war at the same time.
If we're going to ultimately get another Prez Clinton, maybe we can at least save a nice American city while they drop a nuke some other place to start a war for their global reset.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen
It seems up for debate:
Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright citizenship.
Yeah. It's been up for debate for awhile. McCain got caught up in it because he was born outiside the US, but to American citizens. Argument was he was not born on US soil. Counter argument has also been made.
I'm sure.CJ Roberts will have some ridiculous position on it.
why are there no attorneys on this site that can look this up and see if this is ligit
Not an attorney - just have a pacer account. Anyone can get a pacer account (I don't remember the cutoff amount, but if you use less than a certain dollar amount of views in a quarter, it's free - this is to keep in-line with "free public access" requirements).
It's 0.10 a page for documents/records, same 0.10 for queries/transactions. I usually do not incur charges each quarter. Depends on what I'm curious about or looking for.
For this, you all are welcome - there were about 30 pages of current filings. So, not a bad $3 spend.
Seriously, it's worth it to have a pacer account. Used it to look up lis pendis and bankruptcy info on a property we were looking at to figure out if liens or title would be a problem in advance. It's very handy to have.
Yeah, I created my PACER account back in December to look up the Sidney Powell Kraken stuff, It's great
really appreciate you taking time to share = love this site for this reason
There were plenty of lawfags at Voat...
There are two docket websites with this case on their docket list. I’m not at all sure how accurate these sites can be though.
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/38293058/Dyer_v_Harris,_et_al
And
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/circuit-courts/ca1/21-1093?amp
If you're trying to get direct pacer access (not a monthly charge), go here:
https://ecf.ca1.uscourts.gov/
Just curious, why would her birth certificate be an exhibit?
Her parents arent american shes illegitimate. You need to have an American parent to become president/vice .
This seems big. But then again Obama wasn’t American either and he was potus for 8yrs.
Doctor who faked his certificate was killed
And the people that exposed it was ignored.
The doctor was in a plane that crashed into water near the coast, while she initially survived, she died of a heart attack while in the water with life vest on waiting for rescue. While everyone else survived.
There are some that will post grainy footage trying to make it look like a frogman assassinated her while she was wading in the water, but I've seen the high def footage and it's definitely NOT a diver there. It's fake, but still strange the way she died.
hence why pence usher hellie in, its a shit storm when they try to swear her in.
Sorry for the MSM link. I can’t do the archive.is capcha on mobile
https://www.nbcnews.com/usnews/health-director-who-approved-obama-birth-certificate-dies-plane-crash-2D11732106
I didn't know that..
Yep. MSM had to cover it too
Wasn't one parent? He has a brother In Kenya, He was supposedly born in Kenya but has a Birth certificate issued in Hawaii, but one parent would have to be American for that to be a properly issued certificate.
Yep, my husbands American and our children weren’t born in the US but have citizenship. It’s documented that they were born abroad and we always joked they could never be president.
Correct. Her mother is from a high caste Indian family, and her father Jamaican. Both in the US under a visa when she was born, and not naturalised citizens of the USA, hence she does not qualify to be in office. But just like BHO it's all swept under the carpet.
If she was born here, she’s a citizen, right? Isn’t that people come from all over the world to have their babies here?
I don't know if it got repealed but interestingly found an article from August 2019 saying "under his (Trump) supervision cancelled the automatic citizenship for the children of some US service members and US government employees living abroad and children of non-citizens born in the United States."
I could only find this "PA-2019-05" which was an announcement about the changes being made, not sure if it's still in place though.
Natural Born Citizen, requirement to hold office, requires Citizen parents. I believe its only one now...neither of her parents were US citizens
Hence not a "Natural Born Citizen". I never dotted that " i" before. Thanks..
Cause she ain't from around these parts.
It's on pacer site - filed 1/4
Order judgement: 1/20
Civil case docketed: 2/10 Briefing schedule set on 2/12 - brief and appendix due 3/24. Appellee's brief due 30 days following appellant's brief. Appellant has 21 days to respond to appellee's response.
Filing fee paid 2/12.
3/1 - Notice issued. After 3/15, 2 attorneys will no longer receive notice of court issued documents unless they register for an appellate ECF account.
3/2 - Notice of appearance on behalf of appellees J. R. Biden Jr, Kamala D Harris and Mike Pence filed by John G. Osborn.
Defendants: Kamala D Harris Joseph R Biden Jr Democratic National Committee Maine State Democratic Committee Main Secretary of State John Does Michael R Pence
Summons in original case issued to Defendants on 1/15 Kamala Harris served 1/15 Pence served 1/15 Maine DC served 1/19 Sec of State served 1/19 Summons returned unexecuted for Biden - 1/19
The reason for the birth certificate:
"The plaintiff states that his standing arose on 11/3/20 when he was first harmed when he was presented with a federal election ballot containing an Unconstitutionally Qualified Democratic Party Slate for President of the United States." (i.e.: Kamala can't be presented for VP slot as she is not constitutionally qualified to be president - does NOT matter that she's in VP slot.)
This is the argument that "natural born citizen" does not mean "born on US soil" but "born to two naturalized US citizens"
Original case dismissed 1/20. Appeal filed 1/29.
Finally, Robert Dyer (appellate) represented case, and continues to do so on appeal, pro se.
this leads me to think that this bizarro world is the result of Q, military, trump, white hats having huge wins on the battle grounds but the MSM is covering all this stuff for them, like a dam with new holes popping up every day. they are trying to plug the holes but eventually the whole dam will come crashing down
this further makes me think they are the ones filling Xiden and other spots to try to keep up appearances !
absolutely brilliant battle plan! NCSWIC
Read fast and I thought this said, "Marine" but Maine...
Imagine... if they first kick out Xiden using the 25th amendment, then when Prez Harris takes office, they make Killary the VP.
When they need to remove Kamala so Killary can be President, they simply declare her disqualified due to "natural born citizen" question, then move up Hillary as Prez.
On the plus side, they won't need to nuke an American city that Prez Harris is visiting. The cabal will blow up entire airplanes to eliminate one person, so it's double-convenient to eliminate Harris and start a big profitable war at the same time.
If we're going to ultimately get another Prez Clinton, maybe we can at least save a nice American city while they drop a nuke some other place to start a war for their global reset.
They could have just had Hillary run again though, right? She was "popular" last time... probably a hell of a lot more than Biden...
In 2016, the good guys foiled the Dems as they tried to cheat so we got Trump.
As horrifying as this Xiden/Harris/Killary scenario sounds, it's actually a path that could put Killary in the White House.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen It seems up for debate:
Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright citizenship.Yeah. It's been up for debate for awhile. McCain got caught up in it because he was born outiside the US, but to American citizens. Argument was he was not born on US soil. Counter argument has also been made.
I'm sure.CJ Roberts will have some ridiculous position on it.
They're not subject to US jurisdiction, they're subject to jurisdiction of their parents, and she's not a citizen.
What determines jurisdiction? I'm trying to vet this before I unleash my red pill on FB...
Jurisdiction is the function of a foreigner's government, when they're here on temporary work visas.
Let's just imagine an entire constellation of events that might have to take place if something happens to these people.
Kidnapped, all the way to paying taxes, jurisdiction over a person, is a function of which country their visa is from.
Not often I am proud of my home state. Leggoooo
Tell how a civil suit means a person is indicted.
Second: this is an appeal to a ruling that he petitioner has no standing.
So, if the decision would be on appeal he has standing, then things may become more interesting.
I have been not able to read the contents of his arguments, but I am going with the redux written by the court.