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New Dialectic comes into view: Mandatory Digital Certificates - because paper ones are easy to forge. (www.newsnationnow.com)
posted 5 years ago by Fringe--dweller PRO 5 years ago by Fringe--dweller PRO +246 / -0
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– computerguyks 38 points 5 years ago +38 / -0

IMHO - This whole vaccine thing is beginning to herd people into a more sinister one world solution. I think the vaccine rearranges your DNA and programs you towards accepting the eventual Mark of the Beast system. Gates and others are already preplanning recipients of the vaccine for the Mark! Don't take it! We belong to GOD GOD's DNA This makes perfect sense to me!

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– Shadilady 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Probably an unpopular opinion here..I think the vaccine Trump oversaw is fine. I will qualify that I don't plan on getting it, but it's a well studied virus family, and he wanted something for our elderly and high risk to get on with their lives. He tried his best to promote alternate treatment, and to this day promotes that it should always be by choice. He has admitted that he and Melania got it himself. I think he wanted to blow the load on the bullshit vaccine the bad guys intended to drag out and perfect over the cheater Biden term. Trump would not back a killer vaccine, I truly trust him. If you're going to get the shot, get it now, not later. I trust a Trump vaccine far more than a Biden one.

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– Shadilady 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

He said it with Maria Bartiromo on his call about a week ago, starts about the 9 min mark on the vaccine manufacture delivery.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/urXhL9JKNVzW/

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– Qcumber 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

Actually, Maria said Trump and Melania received the vaccine, and then went on to all of Trump would recommend the vaccine. Trump said nothing about taking the vaccine himself. He was absolutely silent on whether he received the vaccine. He did not correct Maria, but he also did not confirm.

I do not find that to be an admission of taking the vaccine, nor do I find it persuasive evidence he took it.

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– Shadilady 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I think he did. You can split hairs on his response if you want.. I've never known Trump to not correct a reporter.

He and Melania actually had Covid, so it wasn't really necessary, and so that's probably why they didn't make a big show of it and did it "quietly". They are, amongst millions of other Americans, in the immunity club that can wave a big middle finger to the vaccination if they want to, because of their own body immunity. BUT, being the President and First Lady in an admin that came up with a monumentally fast vaccine, it looks like they took it. And that jives with me on who they are, good people who are not going to ask the rest of the world to take a vaccine they wouldn't.

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– Qcumber 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Hmmm, I don’t know. Things don’t add up to me. Trump’s followed the science (despite what the lame stream media said) and science says prior infection = immunity ergo, as you said, no need for a vaccine.

Plus, Trump has always been, let’s say, “adverse” to vaccines, so there’s that.

Plus, if he were to take it, why the hell would he do it quietly?!?! He doesn’t do anything quietly!!

Plus, he’s used his new platform to send many a message to the public, endorsements, criticisms. If he took the vaccine and wanted others to take it, seems to me he could and would send that message loud and clear.

So, all that leaves is WTF is up with the vaccine? I’m not sure. I am hoping it’s placebo. I do not believe Trump would knowingly allow people to be harmed.

That’s just my humble opinion.

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– DaesDaemar 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

That video, which you linked to us, does not prove that Trump says he has taken the vaccine. He does, however, recommend people to take it, and called it safe, and great. Time: 10:10 It was a solid correction, there's no need calling it "splitting hairs".

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– computerguyks 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I can't answer to that cause I don't know!

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– Roy_Donk 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

No one does. It makes zero sense no matter how it is spun.

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– Chimera 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I used to hope that Operation Warp Speed would secretly be a military operation to take down all the elite pedos, but that didn't happen so...

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– DiveAndBait 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Imo, he had no choice. Pretty sure they had Clinton in for 2016 and then they were going to roll out this covid hoax, then passports during her admin.

But Trump got in but the deep state pulled the trigger anyway.

Since they pulled the trigger, Trump had no choice but to fast track the vaccine narrative to control it (which is why they had to come out about The Great Reset) . As you can see the vaxx/covid narrative is slowly falling apart on them because he forced their hand and push their timeline into a speedy downward spin, and now they are falling over themselves to gain control.

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– LockHerUp17 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Medfag here. It does not "rearrange your DNA". I've seen a lot of that and that it changes your DNA, etc. Not how it works, but I am still very much concerned with the mRNA vaccines. What the vaccines can do is tell your body to produce proteins.

Proteins have a wide variety of functions from everything to enzymes needed for digestion, to ones that when are not functioning appropriately, result in cancer.

As you can imagine, big pharma can virtually program these vaccines to do many things, even things that can be very hard to detect or things that take years to develop. My theory is that they increase immunogenicity (basically how aggressive your immune system is) that then causes an increase in autoimmune diseases and cancer. They could also be engineering the vaccines to cause fertility problems. This is the way the deep state has worked in the past. Slow acting, hard to detect and prove, but detrimental to us and to population growth.

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– SpaceForceTribunals 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Indeed. Another medfag here. ?

The bottom line is that we have zero data on what the long term effects of injecting synthetic mRNA into the human body are.

No idea.

This is an experiment.

If you’re 88 years old and high-risk, it might make sense to jump off the cliff, and give it a shot.

But what’s most concerning is that the DS megaphone is framing this as a new standard of care.

Approval was given under emergency use. Life insurance companies may not pay-out from accidental death resulting from the vaccine.

The long term repercussions are completely unknown.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

And then they sell the cure.

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– computerguyks 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Like an operating system it programs your DNA! Go to Moderna website and check it out!

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– Acemageddon 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

In the days before the flood there was rampant genetic manipulation(Genesis 6). Jesus said, “But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” Matthew‬ ‭24:37‬ ‭So this lines up perfectly with scripture and I agree they are changing peoples DNA. They have been doing it with Gods plants for years (GMO) and I am positive the technology is way more advanced than anyone thinks.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I've posted similar thoughts as well. The Book of Enoch (1 Enoch) was quoted in the book of Jude and really fleshes out much of the Old Testament, including why God commanded the children of Israel to wipe out the peoples in Canaan, who were the Nephilim who lived after the Flood.

With that being said, I view the mRNA vaccines as bypassing DNA and instructing the body to operate contrary to its natural instructions. I'll never take one but I don't believe it changes your actual DNA. However, most of the vaccines were created with cells harvested from aborted children, which is a good enough reason in itself not to inject it in your body.

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– computerguyks 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

They've been working on this day and forcing humanity into a new era against many peoples will. We're in the end times!

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– thimb 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

But what is the science on this 'changing your DNA' hypothesis? 99% of everything we consume has DNA. Our bodies have loads of bacteria all over them and inside them with their own DNA. I don't think foreign DNA in your body somehow changes your own DNA. If that were the case we'd be one gigantic lump of cancer.

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– Acemageddon 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I don’t think they are just dumping random DNA into people. I believe it is specifically designed DNA “instructions” to manifest changes in people’s DNA and possibly mixed with nanotechnology that will respond to something like an activation of a 5G network or something similar.

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– thimb 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

But how are you going to change someone's DNA to something specific that you want to change it to just by injecting them with something? That's the science part of this I would like to understand. People can have their DNA changed ('damaged' really) by carcinogens that can cause tumors and you can perform some genetic engineering on brand new things (plants, animals, etc.), but how are you going to change the DNA or something already existing in any useful fashion? Even if it were possible it seems like a convoluted method to kill people if that is your end goal.

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– Acemageddon 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I don’t think simply killing people is the main goal. Perhaps it mass mind control (population control) and they will weaponize the NPC army against the rest of us. Or maybe it will make them accept the mark of the beast by removing inhibitions to worshipping the Antichrist. I’ve read many theories as to what it might be, but I do not know. The only thing I know is that I will never take it and I’ve got my whole family on board with refusing the jab. I hope you do too.

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– suave200 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Bill gates gave a lecture on how DNA can be changed so people become non religious. He surmised it would be useful on religious zealots that act as terrorists.

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– Acemageddon 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Informed consent. 2 Corinthians‬ ‭2:11‬ ‭

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– swimkin 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The whole shot thing is to remake our bodies and TRANSFORM them into their liking.... and most likely under their complete control.

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– computerguyks 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Agree 100%!

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– conservatarian 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I don't think a person has to agree with that statement literally to still agree with it. These false, manufactured "battle lines" between maskers and anti-maskers, vaxxers and anti-vaxxers is transforming the former groups into subjects of the power elite. The whole "changes your DNA" thing could be nothing more than a metaphor. Replace that phrase with "makes people into compliant, obedient subjects" and it rings more true.

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– Browneyes2224 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Absolutley agree!

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– Fringe--dweller [S] PRO 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Be alert for MSM coverage of vaccine certificate frauds in the MSM and the Overton window.

I suspect that the MSM will be giving heavy coverage to the emerging phenomena of Vaccine Certificates and the "problem" of fakes being used to evade their controls.

The tactic will be to eggagerate the incidences of bogus certificates and fabricate stories of victims who became infected or died because they trusted somebodies fake certificate.

It is the beginning of a new Dialectic, whose "solution" is to force every human be embedded with digital certificates, made mandatory, because paper proof is easily faked. The DS Agenda has always been Digital Certificates, which are unique to every human and almost impossible to fake or alter. Digital Certificates means you will be injected or tattooed, the tattoo will be a type of bar-code, the embed will be an RFID chip, their preferred choice is likely to be vaccines containing uniquely numbered nano particles that will permanent integrate into your body and forever readable with a simple scanner to be fed back into Mr Gate's databases. Simple scanners, located everywhere collecting your data and tracking your travels and habits.

Paper certificates will quickly become unreliable and the pressure will become loud to make digital certificates mandatory for everyone.

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– SpaceForceTribunals 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Sad but true. Precipice much?

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– pkripper 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

From what I've learned about "military grade", it means crank out as much for the least amount of money.

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– Covfefeovertea1776 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

As a vet, I can attest to the fact that when we hear "military grade" we cringe.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

As a non-vet: it's pretty easy to see all the things that fires off that buzzword.

Phone case? Military grade drop protection! But it can still really only protect against falls of 4 feet or less. Not gonna do much in a jet, on a large ship or on a heavily armored vehicle.

Military grade encryption, is another.

Hard drives were the only "military grade" thing that I recall actually worked, and that's because they're deliberately engineered to deal with bouncing and knocking around, situations that are outside of the spec of normal hard drives.

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– pkripper 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I deal with MS and NAS standard shit every day in the civilian world. That kind of "certification" is purely marketing. One out of a hundred are good but a hundred cost as much as a good one. Cheaper to replace til you find the good one ?

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– Themessenger777 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

My doctor said flat out don't take it, we talked long and honestly about it (I told him I didn't want it and he agreed no one should take it) ....I'm sure he's gonna have no trouble handing out cards and flushing the gene conversion liquid....

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– suave200 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

my doctor asked me if I wanted it. Told him no since it was experimental. Asked him (internist) if he took it and he said yes. (He seems to be a legitimate christian, known him for years). He said ok, what about the flu vaccine, have you had it this year? We can give you that he said. I told him no since the risk of flu this year is extremely low, virtually non existent per the CDC reports. Didn't make sense to take a flu shot and risk a reaction when there isn't any flu.

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– Themessenger777 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You are Suave! Slid that right in there about the flu shot ?...Should of told him that God made your body perfectly to deal with illness...you trust Him!

Blessings!

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– Themessenger777 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Move....if it comes down to you life and your family.. RUN LIKE HELL! There are lots of Drs in smaller towns (I live in a deep blue state now, not by choice but by circumstances) and looked long and hard for a Dr that I liked....

I also have no problem telling any of them NO! I bring my research with me to support my position.

I wish Blessings upon you and yours.... Long ago I was told "somebody can only take advantage of you if you LET THEM"

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– tstr 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

We had a doctor like that here and when I wouldn't let them vaccinate my kid with all those shots he started laughing. He knew I knew, and I know he knows that I know. I told him to fuck off and walked out.

Oh yeah, he was Jewish too.

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– suave200 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Nurse Practitioner. Basically an RN with added credentials. They work under the authority of an MD who simply reviews and signs their paperwork/charts.

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– theDyingOfTheLight 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

it is 100% not impenetrable. Just anyone who tries is put to death.

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– Stillwater 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I read somewhere awhile back that COVID supposedly stands for Certificate of Vaccine ID. I didn’t think much of it at first, but this is getting scarier and scarier. These psychopaths need to be stopped now.

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– theDyingOfTheLight 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Its fine. Make friends with a dr or a NP. Have them put into the system you got your vaccination.

Atleast thats what I am going to do.

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– Fringe--dweller [S] PRO 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

My point is that , as we all know, there will be a thousand and one ways of faking a paper system, these failings will be used against us to support their case for Digital Certificates, made mandatory, from birth.

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– theDyingOfTheLight 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Digital certificates are not that hard to fake. Harder than a piece of paper yes but that doesnt mean you are shit out of luck

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– theDyingOfTheLight 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Oh I wont be making it public. but I already have it covered.

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– theDyingOfTheLight 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Doctors are some of the most corrupt faggots on this planet. Look at all the bribes they take from big pharma. Lots of scumbag doctors who would love 10k in bitcoin.

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– GodWins_76 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Enough will see the monetary value in a black market. Just look how many "pain management" Drs and independent pharmacies popped up with the oxy and medical marijuana.

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– Hodar 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Can anyone say “HIPPA Violation “?

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– muhqtardtho 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Then they'll change/remove hippa. Problem solved.

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– CheshireCatsTail 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I remember someone here warned about this before the covid papers are way to easy to forge and they will bring in digital ones instead

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– Chillout2024 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around why there are so many on this forum that seem to be in support of the vaccines that have been rolled out over last few months for a "virus" with a 99.97% survivability rate. Main group of people at risk for serious illness and/or death are 80+ years of age, an age range that already exceeds average mortality age. If you're a healthy skeptic, not even talking about a tin foil hat type, you should be able to look at all the past information/propaganda that was forced down your throat over the last year and clearly see there is no need for a vaccine. I'll gladly debate anyone on this.

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– ghostsage 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

The 'official' number is 99.97% but remember: hospitals were paid extra for 'COVID deaths', and look at the dips in the other causes of death for 2020. What actually happened is that people died, as people do, but many of those deaths got a fresh 'COVID' label based on a falsified testing process. The real survivability rate was always 100%. The entire thing was a hoax, and still is.

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– suave200 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

My friend is upset for losing 3 of his close friends he claims died of covid. He went on and on about it. Finally I asked him how old they were. He said 90 and 91. Seems to me they probably died of other causes and were labeled covid, or died 'with covid' (fake pcr tests) rather than from it. My friend is so afraid of it he drives his car wearing his mask. I have tried to tell him, but he gets his news from MSM and can't seem to break through their programming.

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– Bill_Paxton 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

When I see the word "mandatory" I double down in the opposite direction while laughing maniacally. Drivers licenses, taxes, and any other "certificates" are on a voluntary basis, I'll happily do those things without registering or paying fees ever again if this is the path we're going down.

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– OkieBowhunter 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The vaccine people are pussies anyway. This vaccine doesn't keep you from spreading it, it supposedly just makes the symptoms milder.

So people are freaking out because I'm good with being a little tired and having a cough?

Fucking tyrannical pussies.

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The Corbett Report Doco on Gates clarifies how the pieces work together.

It's a Vaccination - Digital ID - Cashless Society Eugenics CONTROL agenda. (https://files.catbox.moe/cnilx0.PNG)

They've been working on it for decades.

  1. Ensure vaccinations are complete across the world

  2. Introduce digital ID and tracing to "show who does and doesn't have the vaccine" (but to actually track and trace everyone)

  3. Implement a cashless society economy (that can be controlled exclusively by the govts and institutions, from which any citizen can be locked out at the press of a button)

  4. complete population control (complete slave control)

[Corbett Report: Who is Bill Gates - Full Documentary]

(https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-bill-gates-full-documentary-2020/)

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– Fringe--dweller [S] PRO 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I see today's special offers are free krispy kremes if you show a vaccination card,

that one you just printed and forged, from the internet.

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– nautica 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

So it shall be Without me.

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