The survival rate of the virus is 99,7%...
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...what's the survival rate of the vaccine? Not the survival rate of the virus after the vaccine, the survival rate of the actual vaccine.
Too early to say ... mid-to-long term effects are obliviously unknown, at least to us.
The survival rate from the vaccine data I have found is about 99.99%. The survival rate for CV is about the same (99.99% or better) across all age groups, when taking out all the auto accidents, cancers, flu etc. that are counted as "covid" (its better than 99.7%).
One big problem with the vaccine data is, as TheConservationist has said, mid-to-long term effects are unknown, and there is precedent in previous coronavirus vaccines to be very concerned about such effects.
In addition to potential longer term effects, and covid deaths being overreported, vaccine deaths are almost certainly underreported. If I had to guess, I would say it is likely deaths for the vaccines are 2 to 10 times greater (depending on potential longer term effects) than actual covid deaths now that we have good therapeutics (vitamin D + zinc + Mg and HDQ or Ivermectin).
This is only an educated guess. There really is no way to know since we have known bad data, and this is an experiment.
The problem with RNA delivery systems is the have been shown in previous trials to cause immunity disorders and reproductive issues in the long term. This is why the FDA would not approve them and still hasn't approved them. They were released for use under emergency conditions.
Death is not the only factor to look at. Watch Dr Ryan Cole. He does a great job explaining RNA delivery systems.
Also, here is a list of deaths and injuries so far: https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/how-many-people-are-vaccines-killing
Wow, thanks for the link.
Please provide sources for these claims about the nano-delivery systems (PEGylated lipid nanoparticles) themselves causing either of these issues (not the coronavirus vaccines). These are two separate claims, the first of which (long term immune disorders) sounds mischaracterized from what I have seen, and the second of which (long term reproductive issues) I have not seen any evidence.
I will look up Dr. Cole.
You see the dude whose skin fell off? OK he didn't die, but having ones skin completely peel off is pretty scary shit
Ya. I didn't even touch on the severe effects part. When you dig into that the severe effects (that don't result in death) appear to be substantially worse for the vaccine than the virus.
We have basically no data or research to base any sort of conclusions about this on - that's exactly why pushing a mostly-untested vaccine on the populace is such a dangerous proposition; survivability rate could be 99.999 or it could be 0 (depending on time scope).
We don't have animal tests to go off, we don't have other similar therapies/vaccines to compare to, all we have is preliminary data that suggests a startling number of people seem to have died correlating to the vaccine. Does that mean the vaccine caused it? NO! Correlation is NOT causation (incidentally the same reason Covid survival rate should be significantly higher).
The vaccine is risky because it's a massive unknown. Getting solid data about it is astronomically harder than getting solid data on Covid, which is already hard enough.
VERY intelligent argument, this...
When I see the government and media working together to push this vaccine SO hard, I just have to think they want this DNA alteration in as many people as possible.
I don't know if they want it as a genetic marker, or they can use it as a way to control population, or some other nefarious purpose.
Clearly, as will all things like this, many people are getting rich off of it as well, which might be one of the motives, but when they are messing with DNA, I tend to lean towards some end result that will help usher in the NWO or the Great Reset in some way.
All true.
I find this utterly amazing, the very same folks who poke fun at believers and mock people of faith as backwards for refusing the shot are themselves eagerly lining up to receive their "article of faith" an experimental injection.....a complete unknown. The irony!
I was just saying this at lunch! I'm picturing people walking up to others like some sort of deranged Jehovah's Witnesses and saying "Have you let the Vaxx into your life? Oh blessed are those who come in the name of Johnson & Johnson!"
US 'deaths' are 550,000 or so.
Survival rate of 99.7% is not disputed.
Therefore, 550,000 is 0.3% of total US 'infections'.
Therefore, total US 'infections' must be more than 270 million.
That means well over 3 in 4 people must have 'had C19'.
Does every 3 out of 4 people you know had C19?
Ask your friends ?
Meaning we've reached herd immunity eons ago.
Yeah, but everybody knows that Math is racist...
Math to the rescue once again! Long live factual arguments!!!
Survival rate in high income countries like the US is lower due to the higher average age.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/207273/covid-19-deaths-infection-fatality-ratio-about/
Those numbers are not credible. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg
I'm an anti-vaxer, and I'm as far from retarded as you're likely to get. So there goes that.
(Also, just for fun...English has no double x. One x is plenty...relaxing. Two is kind of...taxing. But, I certainly wouldn't want to fight over it...in an actual boxing match over "doxing" and "vaxing", I'd be easily outfoxed :) OK, sorry
Upvoted for the English lesson.
Cheers :)
A man spontaneously human combusted after the J&J shot.
https://nypost.com/2021/03/30/mans-skin-peeled-off-in-reaction-to-johnson-johnson-covid-vax/
Am I the only one who find this ironic, guy has Steven Johnson syndrome and he got the Johnson and Johnson shot.
I always thought spontaneous human combustion cases were typically caused by severely drunk alcoholics inhaling pure oxygen and smoking cigarettes - I mean what could go wrong with combining a highly flammable material with ample oxygen and an ignition source?
Apparently the very nature of the J&J shot can cause increased cancer risk. The synthetic protein could block the ability of one's immune system to kill off cancer cells. (Dr. Tenpenny)
So you're sayin there's a chance......!
Here is the crux of all the arguments on both sides. Each sees different gambles and has different preferences due to what odds they are interested in.
CDC says 99.987% I believe. And that's with all the fudging of the numbers/tests etc. Who knows what the actual figure is. And that's the # for everyone. If you're older or have health issues it's slightly lower, if you're young and healthy it's higher. For my age and health status it would be almost impossible for me to die from COVID. My 95 year old grandmother survived it just fine. Wasn't even that bad for her.
The thing is, we don't know if someone really has a covid-19 infection when they are tested as "positive" for covid-19! One of my thoughts is that covid-19 really is pretty deadly, but because so many people just have a regular flu, or maybe even a cold, and test positive for covid-19, it makes the lethality appear to be lower. Unfortunately, we don't know what the truth is.
I think my sister and her family really had it. One of the things that seems to separate COVID from the normal flu is the loss of taste/smell. All 5 of them had some weirdness with their taste/smell. My sister lost hers completely for months. I saw her this last weekend and she mentioned that she doesn't think her sense of smell has fully returned. We were outside in her hottub and one of her neighbors was smoking. We could all smell the cigarette smoke, but she couldn't. She normally has a super strong sense of smell. Even better than mine.
She knows tons of ppl that had the same thing happen when COVID seemed to go through their neighborhood in November. Her and her family are all young and healthy, so they said it was like a bad cold/mild flu except for the weird smell/taste thing.
Yes, when it comes to certain symptoms, it seems that covid has some unique ones. It is the test that I think is identifying regular flu and cold as covid. (and I hope my wife doesn't get it, because she's the only one who can smell a lot of things in our house now :) )
? Same in my house. My husband can't smell ANYTHING. He looks at me like I'm crazy sometimes. Then I pull out whatever was causing the offending odor and he's shocked lol
I told my wife she should get a job as a professional "smeller" at some food or cosmetic place, because she can sense the slightest hint of anything! :)
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By age group: 0-19 99.997% 20-49 99.96% 50-70 99.5% 70-90 94.1%
On top of this, those who don't recover overwhelmingly have low vitamin D levels and/or are overweight. So if you get healthy levels of vitamin D and you aren't overweight, then your recovery rates increase to even higher levels.
Quick somebody tell Foul Qi
He's just forbidden children from playing together unmasked anywhere, until every child has been vaxed with the fake vax.
Even on worldmeters the people with it [whatever 'it' is], only 0.4% are seriously ill.
It seems that an average of around 450 people are reported a month die as a result of getting the "vaccine" in the US. That's from the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) So possibly looking at over 5,400 people in a year in the US alone (projected) will die as a direct result of taking the "vaccine" from all manufactures combined. That's REPORTED and I have no doubt this is being way under reported.
I hear your point. It'd be interesting to see how many people the vaccine is killing. We may not know this number for years because we don't know if the vaccine weakens our immune system across the board. Or if it has other genetic complications.
As to the unasked question, the one about survival rate of covid19 after the vaccine, proponents of the vaccine would not say they are trying to boost the survival rate, but trying to suppress the infection rate. So, apples and oranges as to that question, which I know you weren't asking.
The better argument we should stick to is the one you asked, put another way: why would I take an untested vaccine with unknown life-altering side effects when getting covid19 would give me lifetime antibodies with a chance of death that is perhaps nonexistent and is no worse than 0.03%?
If you can raise the survival rate of 99.97 to 99.98+ by taking a shot that could very change your life for the worse or kill you....what do you have to lose? /S
I work at a hospital near Detoilet...the lying and ridiculous, arbitrary rules are off the chart. I was instructed this morning that I need goggles or a face shield around every patient. I wear eyeglasses and was told they don't protect my eyes from inbound harm...yet they have since I was 8 years old.
Could be as bad as 91% maybe worse and that’s without long term studies, who knows.
March 16 2021: “CRIPPLING COVID VACCINE REACTIONS, OVER 1,600 POSSIBLY-RELATED DEATHS AS OF MID-MARCH” https://www.bitchute.com/video/y44t1Bf4sasj/
94% side effects 9% severe
Op: https://greatawakening.win/p/12hkvum9g7/horrifying-video-of-some-peoples/c/
Another great question is, since the medical community refuses to promise that the vaccine actually protects you against covid19, then after taking the vaccine you are subjected to the same pre-vaccine risk of being one of the 0.03% who contracts and dies of covid19, PLUS you are now adding a new risk of dying or having severe complications from the vaccine itself.
The vaccine is additive to your risks, not diminishing.
Wrong. A John Hopkins report (also stickied under Hot) shows that the mortality rate for the chinese virus is about the same as a cold or the flu. Your survival rate in the title of your post is way too low. The actual survival rate is closer to 99.9 %, for all age groups - much higher for anyone under 60.
If you eliminate vitamin D deficiencies (prevalent in old and obese people) then the mortality rate approaches 1 in a million - 99.999% survival
That report is still kinda skewed because it only has the false data countries like China reported. It's the best we got though tbh.
Virus that kills 20% could make the virus survival rate 99.8 tho!!!
who cares if moar people die to get there...
Help us out here, we who are kinda stuck on that survival rate being 80% if 20% die
I just realized today Q practically told us that C19 = Flu. Idk why i never saw the post till today but it explains why kids are unaffected too. There is no covid. Which i even thought was a stretch but I'm pretty much on that train now
96%
99.9995%
That survival rate is assuming their inflated death counts are not inflated.
THINK LOGICALLY.
I'm not anti-vax, but the way the vaccines are being pushed by people and entities known to be control freaks is making me nervous about them.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/207273/covid-19-deaths-infection-fatality-ratio-about/