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Who/What is actually taking this picture, or do they edit out the arm holding the camera? (media.greatawakening.win) MSM Conspiracy Theory
posted 4 years ago by Yohan_Galt 4 years ago by Yohan_Galt +105 / -0
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– justThisGuyYouKnow 36 points 4 years ago +36 / -0

I have worked in computer vision for two decades. Short answer: Yes, they edit out the arm through clever calibration and matching algorithms. This is a completely automatic procedure (if you have the right software, which I am sure they have).

The image you see is a panorama stitched together out of at least a handful of images. The parts blocked by the arm in one image will be visible in other images. Since you know the camera pose and the arm pose (and the cameras are calibrated as well), you can model exactly what pixels you can use and which need to be replaced. Given at least 6 matching points in the image, you can additionally solve for the camera pose between images and fuse this information with the arm pose to increase accuracy.

You can do similarly nice things by taking a sequence of images from an object or in your house or backyard and feeding these images into a program called "meshroom". It solves for camera position and orientation (6DOF) and then stitches together a point-cloud and can even mesh and texture it for you. This process is called "structure from motion" and it is heavily used in 3D modelling for movies and games to recreate objects without having to tediously model by hand.

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– Yohan_Galt [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

That's very interesting and good to know. Like one of the other posters, I was fairly confident there was a perfectly good answer to this.

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– deleted 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0
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– sun_wolf 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

No kidding. Photos of other planets should be treated like evidence in a court of law. You don’t just get to Photoshop everything. And they do this constantly. Everything is a composite, an adjustment, a correction, a rendering from data, a CGI recreation. And I just sit here like, “I want to see the actual photos of Mars though. Stop meddling with everything!”

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– Deleted_Redacted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

looks cleaner without arm jarring

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– Dudemanfoo 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Former C level technical exec here... and I have first hand knowledge from personally being on mars that this was done with FM...

(fucking magic)

By little Irish men in tall hats chasing little cereal bits over rainbows.

Don't try your technobabble facts here... we won't have it.

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– merlenews 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks man, I needed this!

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– Dudemanfoo 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah... justThisGuyYouKnow is right on the money...

SO much great news out there but you have to sort thru all the hopium based larping to find the good stuff...

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– reeion 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This is why OPEN communication is good. We get to learn shit when we see stuff we don't understand.

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– Testudoaubreii 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The lander has a drone....

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– Lonegunman65 15 points 4 years ago +16 / -1

Kinda like the “video” of Neil Armstrong first setting foot on the moon. Did he go out and set up the camera and then go back into the lunar lander only to film him taking his “first steps” on the moon? Or the video of tree leafs blowing around in the exhaust blast from the lunar lander taking off from the moon in other footage??

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– Survey_girl 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

or the air bubbles floating up in the space station videos.... or the astronauts grabbing each others body harness cables to stop their motion...

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– deleted 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0
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– Survey_girl 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

looks like YT has deleted the vids on there, so I had to do some digging on bitchute (sorry for the flat earth links, but the nasa footage is good)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IR9qgZFK5PYC/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vglGsNMWdPrO/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rhS7iCsFKIsF/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4hLoEaCIWrsv/

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1486354887946.webm

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1495966803773.webm

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1490668923179.webm

http://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1493144000508.webm

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– Exploring-the-Unseen 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

GAW: "mainstream media lies, the govt lies, it's all propaganda, scientists are biased to their funding, we can't trust anything these people say. We have to do the work and see for ourselves what's real."

Mainstream Everything: "It's official, the earth is round, believe us, we're the experts.."

FE: "We don't trust the media, or "science" we want to check it out for ourselves"

GAW: "GTFO fcuking whackjob shill!"

..Lawls

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– FlyingScotzman 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Here's one that looks hella weird like an invisible wire. At first i thought it was so blatant, then i realized it actually looks like he's just putting his pinky finger into his pocket to grab him..........then i realized his pants have no pockets.

I have a theory on this kinda stuff. I used to dig down the rabbit hole of stuff like moon landing hoax conspiracy theories. Then after looking at the same evidence years later, i realized how much confirmation bias I had and how i was interpreting everything to suit my narrative and realized 99% of the evidence that convinced me was all crap and could legitimately be debunked.

 

So my theory is that they deliberately hide anomalies into real events such as the moon landing etc. to drive conspiracy theorists crazy (An anomaly that purposely makes an event look like a fake/conspiracy even tho it isn't) and discredit them, so it's easier to discredit and dismiss real conspiracies like JFK, 9/11 etc.

For example, some people believe there were no planes on 9/11 or they were holographic, which obviously i think is a very stupid theory.....however there are indeed some unusual anomalies in some of the footage, so i can see why people might believe that. But now the "no plane theory" helps discredit the entire 9/11 conspiracy theory, Normies will see how crazy it is and dismiss it all......

Facebook bans QAnon groups, but they allow flat-earthers........I wonder why.

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– Deleted_Redacted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

best part, he changes hands to avoid mic tangleup.

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– deleted 7 points 4 years ago +8 / -1
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– ptq417 11 points 4 years ago +12 / -1

Rover Perseverance is equipped with a helicopter drone called Ingenuity. I suspect Ingenuity snapped the pic; otherwise . . .

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– Slyver 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Thank you for providing the real answer.

It just goes to show how easy disinformation gets disseminated when the only real answer is not the top answer (and is in fact downvoted).

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– The3rdKey 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I logged in to say exactly this. Thank you!

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– Yohan_Galt [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Makes sense, figured there was a reasonable answer to this.

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– USRifle_Cal30M1 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, they dropped the copter a day or 2 ago.

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– DublOhSebm 6 points 4 years ago +7 / -1

It's like asking "Who was the first man on the moon?" ... "The guy who took Neil Armstrong's picture."

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– Dogsoldier2 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Probably something similar to this. If you watch his hand you can see he is holding a selfie stick but you can't see the stick. https://files.catbox.moe/xzht9j.mp4

This is why: GoPro MAX + Insta360 Invisible Selfie Stick

Point being, if you can buy an invisible selfie stick I'm pretty sure NASA has something similar or better.

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– FireTriangle 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Jim Acosta went with the rover. He is the photo journalist here. When he does a selfie interview, they just "lose" it.

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– Apple-Bag 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Selfie stick for the win

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– NobodyLikesSplatter 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Lol apple-bag. Best username.

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– Retaining_H2O 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Good point. If the probe had moved forward to place a camera... and then backed up for the photo... then there wold be tire tracks (which there aren't).

Unless that probe is equipped with it's own tiny drone, I don't see how this photo can be taken.

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– Pagoda 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If there are no tire tracks how did it get off of the spaceship?!?

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– Yohan_Galt [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Must have its own drone, photoshopped, or there was a very friendly alien passerby that was happy to step in and take the picture.

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– Deleted_Redacted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well SORRY for doing a nice thing , TOO BAD I didnt knowy earthlings stoed assisting.

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– niseione 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That is the Curiosity Mars rover, not the Perseverance (which did bring along its own drone).

Here is an explanation of why you can't see the Curiosity Rover's arm. (The photo is actually from a select mosaic of images compiled into one):

https://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/curiosity-rover-selfie/

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– jackrotten 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Even consumer 3d cameras can cut out the pole that they are attached to

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– TheGreatAwakened 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

Space is fake AF... Watch the wikileaks vid of them filming the moon stuff at the Kubrick studio... There's a reason all ancient cosmology follow the same flat Earth under the dome cosmology that every single secret society does...

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– Ampersand2020 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

the earth is not flat lmao. It's as round as it gets.

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– NobodyLikesSplatter 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

If it were flat, you’d think by now explorers would have arrived at the edge and looked down and said “whoa, be careful-don’t fall off this fukkin ledge?” Lol and what happens to the water that most of our earth is composed of? What keeps it from falling over the edge?

It’s round. We can look out in space and see other planets as they rotate. We know they aren’t just flat discs.

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– dmgice 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

The Earth is like a slightly thicker Skittle. In billions and billions of years, gravity, entropy, and pull will flatten it further.

The answer is that the Earth is not flat... YET.

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– peachtriot17 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

My bf and I have been asking ourselves this very question.

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– MoldyPurpleSpots 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Aliens... ;)

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– WestCelt 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Sorry I'm having none of this fruit cobbler, I BELIEVE!

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– BadDood 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

https://i.insider.com/55f98f1bdd08952c3a8b4776

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– Yohan_Galt [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The plot thickens

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– WestCelt 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It must be the drone.???????✈️♂️????????

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– undine53 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Where is this?

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– Loquitur_Veritatem 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Either Mars or in the desert around area 51.

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– Karl_Maldens_Nose 6 points 4 years ago +7 / -1

I thought it was Greenland.

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– MikePorter42 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

My bet is on the latter

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– Covfefe_Time 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Devon Island

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– Yohan_Galt [S] 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

The rover on Mars

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– undine53 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

Looks like there are no blue skies there either, those pesky chemtrails drift a long way...

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– Yohan_Galt [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

HaHa! I was going to say downtown Detroit!

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