Reporting in from north GA. It's real here. Gas stations are running out of gas, but I was still able to get gas at a large chain station. Now, if it's just the whole idea that everyone is panicking and filling up or a real shortage I can't tell you. Had to pass 3 stations to get gas and the trucker station off my exit has a line backed up onto the highway.
Also, I worked for a company that sold and maintained valves on an industrial scale. Company was a subsidiary of Emerson. Those lines aren't on the network. We built command and control systems for them that automates the valves and you could not even bring a cell phone into the same room as the server. You can't even plug a USB into them. They are usually built and tested before going to the site and then no network access at all. The computers used while in maintenance mode are provided by the gas company's IT department. They control everything so this has to be a logistics attack.
still wondering why no one has connected the petrodollars demise with this oil play ... theres much more going on ...irun, russa, and chyna are no longer using the petrodollar !
I did some technical consulting at business in Washington D.C. back in 2003 where big portion of the Internet backbone is run our of. I had to work in a area with glass walls, like a fishbowl with serious guys with guns looking at every move I made. When I had to go to the bathroom, I had an armed escort who would go inside the bathroom and stand there until I did my thing, and then escort me back to room.
I live in Louisiana. Gas is fine here. No one in my area is panicing. I'm not sure what to believe. Usually my MAGA father in law would tell me to stock up for a month by now but hasn't.
Loving in a Gulf Coast State has it's priveleges. I live in FL, and we get most of our fuel straight from the rigs. Just like y'all, Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama.
Your tell me that the Oil Rigs have there own refining capability? I don't think so. Oil rigs produce Crude. The Crude goes to a refinery via pipeline or rail, then from refinery to a Rack, or Jobber, them is distributed to a supplier that has a contract with oil company, or someone who buys unbranded fuel, in other words any fuel that is available at lowest negotiated price. These suppliers, for example Sam's, Cosco, or independent can usually get lower prices. From what I was able to read, this is how is works .
Every station I drove by here had lines out to the street. But they have gas and haven't jacked up the price yet. If the people wasting gas would just go home and park it, there wouldn't be so many cars in line.
What do you think these lines of cars are doing? Filling up and doing laps around town? These types of comments always confuse me. Sure let's hope people aren't wasting gas during a crisis but wtf makes you think folks are just wasting gas like it's still the 70's and cruising is the new hotness?
People are driving for no good reason. I have neighbors who are in and out all day long. I think they go to the store every time they want a beer or a pack of cigarettes or a hamburger. They can't buy enough to last a week like someone with some sense.
I don't do that. I already have gas in my car. I might need to fill it up again in June. I might have to buy some TP by the end of the year.
I feel ya on the beef shortage. I've been doing keto for a bit now, and one of my meal preps for work lunches includes a 90% lean 1/4 lb burger patty. Now, over the course of the "pandemic", my typical brand patties have been hard to come by. Kroger's was always out or had a couple packages left (I buy 16 patties for the week), and the same with Walmart.
Last week, the Kroger's freezer was packed full of packages.
Brother a long haul driver for past 30 years, he said don't believe what your seeing. A lot of this is hype bullshit. Pipe line should be back on line in a few days. Prices will spike and some regional supply issues but it's but it's very short term. This will NOT reach toilet paper levels.
In Florida every time a hurricane threatens to hit there is always a couple days of panic buying that leads to line at the pumps.
Back in the 70's, after the Carter fuel shortages, my dad buried a 2000 gallon tank in the backyard and filled it with Diesel for the cook stove and heater. He had a intermediary tank that fuel would be pumped into when it got low. When he died, we had to remove it very hush hush. Would not have been good for EPA to get wind of that.
My daughter’s fiancé is a long distance truck driver also, but really just started. I just asked her if they are seeing any issues with gas at truck stops, and she said no, not yet anyway. They were headed to Texas, but don’t know where they’ll go from there.
Natural news mentioned that since they can’t pump the oil, the refineries shut down. So even if the pipeline opens up, there’ll still be a delay. Not sure how accurate. Just relaying some info.
Not only will it affect local stores, but there are a lot of products supplied from the Southeastern states. No trucks = no shipping. Many states supply goods to the Southeastern states. How do you send a truck in... if there is no fuel locally for the return trip?
Crops are already coming in in S Fl, we grow a lot of veggies and fruit (and beef & hogs as well). This might be devastating to the farmers if they can't ship their crops up north
I worked in a store back when coffee went so high. The wholesale price was more than the shelf price. We had to mark up the coffee we already had so that there would be enough money to replace it.
There was an old guy back then who would come on Johnny Carson and tell about how cheap things were in Costa Rica. He had retired there and was living like a king on his social security check. He gave Johnny a big bag of coffee and said it was only about 50 cents in Costa Rica. I think he did the same with sugar one time.
People should already be stocking up on coffee and sugar, among other things.
Skinny chicks few and far between nowadays. Back in my day, they were just far between, if you know what I mean. Lots of Georgia women can't work across the line in Florida because that can't get through the scale shack.
Friend of mine in the shipping industry and I were chatting over the weekend. He’s not worried about the fuel so much as a lack of dock workers. He’s blaming the supplemented unemployment benefits for it.
more like unenjoyment, amirite? Wish I could get a decent night's sleep without having to listen to my welfare neighbors having an outdoor bbq every fucking night
They make plenty of money my guy. Agreed about how underappreciated they are tho. You just gotta move around as you gain experience and once you can afford your own truck you start printing money. At least that's how it is around here with a major port.
It was a great time back in the 70's for me at least, when everybody had a CB radio in their car, and most with a linear amp. Back then Truckers could drive as many hours as they wanted to. There was some good money to be made hauling cars back then.
I was high school age, had a base station in my bed room, and lay in bed with my power mic on my pillow talking half the night town on the CB with Messenger, Mudslinger, Duckplucker, Skyhawk, Cowboy, and other names I can't remember, and every trucker that came though town. My handle was Broken Bones.
They said the "hack" will be over before the weekend. Besides trying to "scare" us, the price went up about 20 cents. Now it is 80 cent over what it was under Trump. So, that's the real reason and I sincerely doubt it will ever go down under POTATUS.
NC - gas is running out VERY quickly. However, there are tanker trucks coming and going here in eastern NC. After the tankers resupply a gas station, they station sells out quickly... the one near my house was resupplied this morning and was sold out in about an hour. There lines at all open pumps right now. This sucks!
Not seeing it. No gas shortages here in S FL so far. If there's wind of this though, it'll be all out panic, just like when a hurricane is coming. Gas, food, water, tp and lumber will all be gone in a matter of only a couple days.
I bought three months worth of survival food last year with self-life of 26 years. Three in house so one months worth for all of us. I have at time though that maybe I wasted my money, that I would not ever need it, but still it does provide a little piece of mind it just being there.
If things got really short, I would still strive to find regular food, but having some reserve food cache means I would not have to take huge risk in finding it.
Lovely. I don't think it'll be as bad as the media and others are portraying. Even IF [they] ration it out to the public, [they]'re not gonna let this affect the trucking industry. There's just too much of [their] money at stake. [their] money, the CCP's money, the Crown's money, and especially the Rothschild's money. Heads will roll on [their] side and we won't have to lift a finger if it gets bad enough. And I don't see [them] doing that. [they]'re expensing too much time, effort, resources and power just trying to stay alive and ahead of what's coming for [them].
These gas stations "running out of gas" is a result of panic buying. I work in trucking and so far there is no panic yet and we are almost exclusively in the SE.
Well, the news I've heard of it says it affects the supply of 45% of the gas (It doesn't ELIMINATE the supply btw) consumed east of Mississippi, and that it should only impact about 9 states in SE from VA south and west thru Mississippi. Some gas from other suppliers are supposed to be diverted to the areas affected by this pipeline, which is why biden lifted some of the DOT regulations to allow truckers to drive longer to share the supplies.
From a buying standpoint, ATL and Gwinnett Co (NE Atl) are starting to run out. I am just parroting news reporting but as of today, the news says that the target is still to have the software problems resolved by/during the weekend sometime.
Reporting in from north GA. It's real here. Gas stations are running out of gas, but I was still able to get gas at a large chain station. Now, if it's just the whole idea that everyone is panicking and filling up or a real shortage I can't tell you. Had to pass 3 stations to get gas and the trucker station off my exit has a line backed up onto the highway. Also, I worked for a company that sold and maintained valves on an industrial scale. Company was a subsidiary of Emerson. Those lines aren't on the network. We built command and control systems for them that automates the valves and you could not even bring a cell phone into the same room as the server. You can't even plug a USB into them. They are usually built and tested before going to the site and then no network access at all. The computers used while in maintenance mode are provided by the gas company's IT department. They control everything so this has to be a logistics attack.
Toilet paper, anyone?
still wondering why no one has connected the petrodollars demise with this oil play ... theres much more going on ...irun, russa, and chyna are no longer using the petrodollar !
Surely there is a way for all those packages bought/hoarded during the Great TP Rush of 2020 to convert them to fuel.. Carbon is carbon...
I did some technical consulting at business in Washington D.C. back in 2003 where big portion of the Internet backbone is run our of. I had to work in a area with glass walls, like a fishbowl with serious guys with guns looking at every move I made. When I had to go to the bathroom, I had an armed escort who would go inside the bathroom and stand there until I did my thing, and then escort me back to room.
I live in Louisiana. Gas is fine here. No one in my area is panicing. I'm not sure what to believe. Usually my MAGA father in law would tell me to stock up for a month by now but hasn't.
Loving in a Gulf Coast State has it's priveleges. I live in FL, and we get most of our fuel straight from the rigs. Just like y'all, Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama.
Straight from the rigs? Unless cars in Florida run on unrefined crude oil I can’t see how that works.
Your tell me that the Oil Rigs have there own refining capability? I don't think so. Oil rigs produce Crude. The Crude goes to a refinery via pipeline or rail, then from refinery to a Rack, or Jobber, them is distributed to a supplier that has a contract with oil company, or someone who buys unbranded fuel, in other words any fuel that is available at lowest negotiated price. These suppliers, for example Sam's, Cosco, or independent can usually get lower prices. From what I was able to read, this is how is works .
Long lines in PA.
Every station I drove by here had lines out to the street. But they have gas and haven't jacked up the price yet. If the people wasting gas would just go home and park it, there wouldn't be so many cars in line.
What do you think these lines of cars are doing? Filling up and doing laps around town? These types of comments always confuse me. Sure let's hope people aren't wasting gas during a crisis but wtf makes you think folks are just wasting gas like it's still the 70's and cruising is the new hotness?
People are driving for no good reason. I have neighbors who are in and out all day long. I think they go to the store every time they want a beer or a pack of cigarettes or a hamburger. They can't buy enough to last a week like someone with some sense.
I don't do that. I already have gas in my car. I might need to fill it up again in June. I might have to buy some TP by the end of the year.
I feel ya on the beef shortage. I've been doing keto for a bit now, and one of my meal preps for work lunches includes a 90% lean 1/4 lb burger patty. Now, over the course of the "pandemic", my typical brand patties have been hard to come by. Kroger's was always out or had a couple packages left (I buy 16 patties for the week), and the same with Walmart.
Last week, the Kroger's freezer was packed full of packages.
I’m in GA (OTP for any ga peeps) and stations are running out, or already out
Brother a long haul driver for past 30 years, he said don't believe what your seeing. A lot of this is hype bullshit. Pipe line should be back on line in a few days. Prices will spike and some regional supply issues but it's but it's very short term. This will NOT reach toilet paper levels.
Oh trust me I don't and I know *Biden is not really in control either. One year ago people were frantically buying toilet paper and now it's gas.
In Florida every time a hurricane threatens to hit there is always a couple days of panic buying that leads to line at the pumps.
Back in the 70's, after the Carter fuel shortages, my dad buried a 2000 gallon tank in the backyard and filled it with Diesel for the cook stove and heater. He had a intermediary tank that fuel would be pumped into when it got low. When he died, we had to remove it very hush hush. Would not have been good for EPA to get wind of that.
we overflowed our reserves last year with Trump.
My daughter’s fiancé is a long distance truck driver also, but really just started. I just asked her if they are seeing any issues with gas at truck stops, and she said no, not yet anyway. They were headed to Texas, but don’t know where they’ll go from there.
Natural news mentioned that since they can’t pump the oil, the refineries shut down. So even if the pipeline opens up, there’ll still be a delay. Not sure how accurate. Just relaying some info.
You're correct it's going to take a few weeks for refineries to get back online and start processing raw crude oil
whether its hype or hoax, either way, there could be shortages and if not shortages a big jump in prices....
I say....buy up on sale...keep your car filled....etc etc....that way the shortages/price increases will not hit you so hard.
Thanks for the heads up. :>)
Not only will it affect local stores, but there are a lot of products supplied from the Southeastern states. No trucks = no shipping. Many states supply goods to the Southeastern states. How do you send a truck in... if there is no fuel locally for the return trip?
Plan accordingly.
Crops are already coming in in S Fl, we grow a lot of veggies and fruit (and beef & hogs as well). This might be devastating to the farmers if they can't ship their crops up north
That's some irony ain't it. A fuel truck running out of fuel.
We've had toilet paper shortages and gas shortages. What are they bringing back from the 70s next? Disco? High priced coffee and sugar?
Nothing new under the sun.
If I see any pet rocks, I'm heading to my bunker
Or mood rings. LOL
Bell bottom pants, and paisley shirts maybe? I remember when double knit lime green leisure suit was top of the fashions.
I could survive disco. Coffee and sugar are rising, but not outside of average yet iirc
I worked in a store back when coffee went so high. The wholesale price was more than the shelf price. We had to mark up the coffee we already had so that there would be enough money to replace it.
There was an old guy back then who would come on Johnny Carson and tell about how cheap things were in Costa Rica. He had retired there and was living like a king on his social security check. He gave Johnny a big bag of coffee and said it was only about 50 cents in Costa Rica. I think he did the same with sugar one time.
People should already be stocking up on coffee and sugar, among other things.
bell bottom jeans and skinny people
Skinny chicks few and far between nowadays. Back in my day, they were just far between, if you know what I mean. Lots of Georgia women can't work across the line in Florida because that can't get through the scale shack.
Bell bottoms and wide ties. I still have one of the ties.
Friend of mine in the shipping industry and I were chatting over the weekend. He’s not worried about the fuel so much as a lack of dock workers. He’s blaming the supplemented unemployment benefits for it.
more like unenjoyment, amirite? Wish I could get a decent night's sleep without having to listen to my welfare neighbors having an outdoor bbq every fucking night
Seems like they are going to try to starve out the Republican states. Just like trying to feeze out Texas.
Most underappreciated job in this country. Everything is delivered by trucks and drivers should make twice what they make.
They make plenty of money my guy. Agreed about how underappreciated they are tho. You just gotta move around as you gain experience and once you can afford your own truck you start printing money. At least that's how it is around here with a major port.
It was a great time back in the 70's for me at least, when everybody had a CB radio in their car, and most with a linear amp. Back then Truckers could drive as many hours as they wanted to. There was some good money to be made hauling cars back then.
I was high school age, had a base station in my bed room, and lay in bed with my power mic on my pillow talking half the night town on the CB with Messenger, Mudslinger, Duckplucker, Skyhawk, Cowboy, and other names I can't remember, and every trucker that came though town. My handle was Broken Bones.
Isn't cernovitch DS?
He is just somewhat retarded imo. I think hes got a Muslim wife and a bit of brain damage.
They said the "hack" will be over before the weekend. Besides trying to "scare" us, the price went up about 20 cents. Now it is 80 cent over what it was under Trump. So, that's the real reason and I sincerely doubt it will ever go down under POTATUS.
When you're a prepper / hoarder, there are never any worries.
NC - gas is running out VERY quickly. However, there are tanker trucks coming and going here in eastern NC. After the tankers resupply a gas station, they station sells out quickly... the one near my house was resupplied this morning and was sold out in about an hour. There lines at all open pumps right now. This sucks!
Not seeing it. No gas shortages here in S FL so far. If there's wind of this though, it'll be all out panic, just like when a hurricane is coming. Gas, food, water, tp and lumber will all be gone in a matter of only a couple days.
I time my gas fluctuates is when I take some Beano.
I bought three months worth of survival food last year with self-life of 26 years. Three in house so one months worth for all of us. I have at time though that maybe I wasted my money, that I would not ever need it, but still it does provide a little piece of mind it just being there.
If things got really short, I would still strive to find regular food, but having some reserve food cache means I would not have to take huge risk in finding it.
friend in NC just told me the pipeline should be up and running by the weekend. Let's hope so!!
Lovely. I don't think it'll be as bad as the media and others are portraying. Even IF [they] ration it out to the public, [they]'re not gonna let this affect the trucking industry. There's just too much of [their] money at stake. [their] money, the CCP's money, the Crown's money, and especially the Rothschild's money. Heads will roll on [their] side and we won't have to lift a finger if it gets bad enough. And I don't see [them] doing that. [they]'re expensing too much time, effort, resources and power just trying to stay alive and ahead of what's coming for [them].
Thanks that will definitely impact us!
These gas stations "running out of gas" is a result of panic buying. I work in trucking and so far there is no panic yet and we are almost exclusively in the SE.
Woohoo you got your TP Pepe
Yes!!! He’s the best one!!!
Prob a hoax. I drove home from Florida yesterday to Oklahoma. Saw a massive amount of lumber just sitting next to the road. So that’s a hoax.
Michigan, no problems.
Well, the news I've heard of it says it affects the supply of 45% of the gas (It doesn't ELIMINATE the supply btw) consumed east of Mississippi, and that it should only impact about 9 states in SE from VA south and west thru Mississippi. Some gas from other suppliers are supposed to be diverted to the areas affected by this pipeline, which is why biden lifted some of the DOT regulations to allow truckers to drive longer to share the supplies.
From a buying standpoint, ATL and Gwinnett Co (NE Atl) are starting to run out. I am just parroting news reporting but as of today, the news says that the target is still to have the software problems resolved by/during the weekend sometime.
Hmm, don't truckers move fuel too. I could figure out how to keep it all going. Companies need to think harder, the solution is in front of them.
Oh boy - yet another run on TP!! We still have plenty from the last stock-up.