After reading a couple of somewhat negative comments that betrayed a lack of fundamental understanding, I wanted to offer some small clarification on Mike's video. Specifically, I want to address the concern that this just boils down to some anonymous guy's opinion. Nothing could be further from the truth. What Mike claims to have is 100% objective proof that is independent of any particular opinion or analysis. I will briefly try to explain.
There are a couple relevant technologies here that I would like to break down a little bit. I want to try to break this down for laypeople in a bit less technical wording. The first is networking communications between computers.
When data is transmitted across a network, like on the Internet, that data is broken up into what are called 'packets'. For now, let's just think of these as post cards like you would fill out and place in the mail. So if you want to send the Holy Bible to a friend, one (inefficient) way of doing so would be to copy the bible down onto post cards. Fit as much as you can on a post card, then mail that post card to the recipient. This would be very time-consuming, and the post cards might arrive out of order. Some might also be lost in the mail, so you might include a number on each card to identify the order. Then, if by the end there are missing numbers, you might re-write those cards and send the new copies to your recipient. Again, these post cards are analogous to network 'packets' as described in Mike's video.
But what if someone intercepts your mail and alters your post cards? Then your friend might have a copy of the Bible that has been altered, even to the point of conveying a different or opposite message at any or all points. This is a real problem, and it is also a problem for network packets. However, there is a long-established solution. Without that solution, secure online transactions from purchases to banking would all be impossible. So we all already know that technology exists to address this problem, but most of us do not understand it very well.
Sadly, it is quite a bit harder to explain in lay terms how the technology works to guarantee our 'post cards'/packets aren't altered as they are transmitted through the network, but I am going to try. The basic technology involves advanced mathematical encryption of the same sort your online bank would use. This mathematical solution involves a private key and a public key. In our analogy, both you, the sender, and your recipient would have both private and public keys. The private key would be kept secret, but the public key can be shared. These keys can be used to encrypt data such that only the intended recipient can read it. Even more importantly here, these keys can also be used to create a digital signature. This signature incorporates every detail of the network packets or your post cards in a cryptographic algorithm such that it can be proven with mathematical certainty whether or not the contents of the packet or post card has been altered in any way. This is still quite complicated, so let me give a simple example:
Let's say one of your post cards says, "#1346: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)". Using a cryptographic signature, your recipient could verify that the message contents has not been altered with such precision that, if even the received message left out, altered, or added A SINGLE CHARACTER, the digital signature WOULD NOT MATCH and would thus prove with MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY that the message had not been accurately transmitted. In the case of a computer network, that packet would be discarded and a new attempt would be made to send the correct packet with the correct contents.
So, putting this all together, it is as if the voting machines communicated via post cards in the mail to each other. Each post card is time and date stamped, marked for its proper order in the transmission, and every detail is digitally signed so that it can be proven with MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY whether or not the data was altered between the sender and receiver. Mike claims to have EVERY SINGLE POST CARD FOR THE ENTIRE ELECTION, COMPLETE WITH DIGITAL SIGNATURE! Furthermore, Mike has claimed elsewhere that proper, legal chain of custody was maintained with this data from the time of collection to the present. If both of these claims are true, that can be easily proven, confirmed, and verified. And it means that ANYONE who has the proper training/understanding to check the data will have no choice but to come to the exact same conclusion that his anonymous expert came to. The information IS NOT DEPENDENT ON AN EXPERT TESTIMONY! If this is not true, then digital commerce and online banking would be an impossibility.
So, one last time, let's try to go over a complete analogy. Let's say computers did not exist but mathematical cryptography for encryption and signing is possible. Let's say that all machines in the election were replaced with humans who communicated all election information via post cards which used cryptographic signing to ensure that all data maintained its accuracy. This would include communications like, "Take the votes we tallied since our last post card and add them to the running total for our state. Then add that to the running total for the nation." Some of these post cards might be from foreign actors saying things like, "Biden is falling too far behind in Michigan! Take 32,213 votes from Trump and re-assign those to Biden." Every post card is numbered so you can piece together the original number. Every post card has a data and time stamp, as well. And every post card is cryptographically signed in a way that allows the recipient to confirm whether or not the original message made it without being altered. You can think of this as a mathematical formula each person has. Each also has two very long strings of data corresponding to a private and public key. So when Person A wants to send an update to Person B, he first writes the message, then runs the message through a mathematical function/algorithm along with his secret key and his recipient's public key. The function/algorithm spits out exactly what he then writes on the final post card and sends to the recipient. Furthermore, each new post card includes a cryptographic hash pointing to the previous post card sent. This way, each new post card can be verifiably linked to the previous post card. And Mike has ALL of these post cards!
One final remark about the cryptographic signatures: these are sort of like the "Royal Seal" a king might have used in times past. Royal edicts would have a hot wax seal that the king would press his signet ring into on the assumption that no one can break the seal and put it back without the king's own ring which remains in his possession. Cryptographic signing is MUCH more secure than this!
And, finally, here are a few Wikipedia references to relevant technology discussed above for those who want to dive more deeply into the technical aspects:
Thanks for the kind words! We tech geeks need to help bridge the gap in technical understanding. I think that is the biggest hurdle Mike is facing. So many articulate people don't know tech, and so many tech people aren't very articulate! xD But, together, with God's help, we will get it all sorted out! :D
I'm not a cyber geek, however the way you explained that is exactly what I've been saying Mike needs. I also believe Colonel Phil Waldron did an excellent job discussing some of these issues and believe Mike should strongly consider him as his spokesperson and he continue to be the financial support.
Very interesting. thank you for the very detailed explanation. If I'm following you correctly (don't have any familiarity with this subject really), we can say that if Mike Lindell has the data he claims to have, there's no way you can "spin the data" and the conclusion can be confirmed by all appropriately trained specialists?
Do you have an opinion on whether Mike really has every single "post card"? I trust him and think he's an honest, good person, but could he be mistaken? Was wondering if with your expertise you could hedge one way or another if he really has it. That really would be something.
As to "spinning the data", if Mike has legal chain of custody from the networked machines to the packets he now has which were captured, then there really isn't much room to spin. It is possible, I suppose, that one could set up a network and fake election data packets, but such a fake would likely not match the real election in many important ways. And such a fake would not have a legal chain of custody. People can lie pretty creatively, however, but I consider this to be pretty decisive. Put it this way, they should not be able to spin this any better than a forensic analysis on digital financial transactions could be spun. And, to my knowledge, when something like the IRS or SEC makes a case based on such data, they win decisively, people go to jail, and/or serious penalties are levied.
I also trust Mike Lindell and believe him to be genuine. I do not have any special access to him, however, so I guess time will tell if he's suckered me in or if he is who he claims to be. As far as whether or not he has every 'post card', I would love to know exactly how he obtained them. I have seen videos of his or on his frankspeech site (can't recall which, exactly) where he said basically that a bunch of good guys repeatedly tried to warn about such an attack and obtained no results. So they decided to record everything themselves. Who were these people? I do not know. And where did they record it? Were they at every polling station? Every county level aggregator? State level? He hasn't really said. To my understanding, there is some sort of "Edison Board" where the vote tallies were supposed to pass through and people can pay to access that system. That's allegedly how MSM outlets show voting totals as they come in. Many early grassroots analyses were based on, for example, the New York Times reports from their access to the Edison Board.
Here's what I hope and think might very well be true: Trump said, "We got them! We got them all!" Trump also called out fraud going back to at least 2012, as I recall. He even stated very specifically over the years various aspects of the fraud. Based on this, I suspect that the military was involved in the data collection. And I suspect the military leaked copies to Mike as part of ongoing irregular warfare efforts. This seems consistent with the DoD warfighting manuals (you know, all that 11.3 stuff and whatnot) and everything else we know. It may be the military is backing Mike and Mike doesn't even fully realize that's who is helping support his efforts. If this is true, perhaps Trump is indeed still controlling much of the military and acting as President (which he is, having won re-election) with many important things going on in the world.
In any case, time will tell. The only thing we know with certainty is that it is God's plan which will prevail in the end. Let's pray God wants to see the US restored to glory with a new peace and prosperity for all of its citizens as they soon embark on a new Golden Age.
Edit: It is worth noting that Mike has said he would gladly share all his data with Rachel Maddow and/or Anderson Cooper, let them thoroughly investigate it, and then report on it with one condition: they have to agree to have him on to discuss their findings. He made this offer on an appearance on Bannon's War Room. To my knowledge, neither has accepted Mikes offer. Mike seems extremely confident, and, so far, no one on the other side seems to want to address his case at all.
I don't know why he bothers with media personalities at all. Just release the raw data to the world, and then experts everywhere can start verifying the evidence. That's the real "proof", the pcap files and the digital signatures to verify their provenance. Not a video, not some expert testimony. Without independently verifying these files, we cannot claim to have proof yet.
Nope. It was Patrick Byrne and some Texan cyber security professionals that captured this data. Maybe Space Force did too, but that’s where THIS capture came from.
They had observed shenanigans in the 2018 election and were laying in wait for them.
I can vouch for the fact Patrick and his crew were looking into this as you say. Are you sure it is their work that Mike has in his possession? I have followed Mike closely and have never heard him say EXACTLY who the people are who provided him the data on January 9th (that's the correct date, right? I'm too lazy to go back through the video just now! xD). It is great if Patrick's data is what he has, but I think it is even better if he has yet another source, especially if that source is military! Also, if it is Patrick's data he has, I would expect to have seen more of Patrick on frankspeech.com.
I, Peter Strozk, have worked for various governmental agencies as an network engineer and consultant, I know for a fact that MAJOR upstream internet backbone providers certainly have the ability and functionality to create pcaps of this nature and do so all of the time.
No doubt the Fed's/Military have this capability post 9-11 via CALEA.
My big issue with all of this is chain of evidence based, WHO capped the traffic, and why are they not presenting it as evidence.
If this was in-fact either a Mil/Fed operation, then I would argue it is ABSOLUTLEY INCUMBENT upon them to come forward publicly with the information.
I watched the whole thing. Great info, explained the cyber attacks to me like I’m a 5th grader, I see how it was done. However, will the Supreme Court do it’s job this time? It sounds like they should. But will they? Or were they paid off by China or Sor os?
I pray. That’s all I can do right now and share the video. He asked us to share it everywhere so let’s do that.
Symbolism. It's important. Jesus isn't on the cross and neither should an image if His body be. C'mon man. That is a Catholic thing. They're steeped in idolatry disguised as holiness.
He said on War Room yesterday that he is filing a separate lawsuit against Dominion today as well. Separate from his efforts to get a case to the Supreme Court.
If his expert is accurate then this is a MOAB. Need the courts to weigh in which obviously he is working towards but due to what we saw the courts doing since the election, makes me nervous.
Just finished watching - the proof comes down to his 'government expert' and whether any holes can be poked in his data/testimony.
But that data needs to get to experts who can analyze and try to refute it. I imagine the MSM will torpedo this before it even gets to that point by attacking Lindell and labeling him a CT.
The purpose of this video and evidence is not to have the sc hear it. They wont and would never invalidate the fraudulent election for whatever reasons they have. Rather the purpose is for us to spread the video evidence far and wide to expose normies and soften them up for what is coming.....overt military action to free & restore the Republic from ccp infiltration and takeover. We all know, NCSWIC ?
I’m torn your point makes a lot of sense, but also at the same time we needed to have a steal to wake a lot of us up as to the enormity of the rigging of elections. Wouldn’t shock me if the rumors of the three justices trump appointed passed intentionally either way lindell could go down as a legendary hero
It only seems that way to you because you do not understand the technology being discussed. Please see my long comment in this thread for a small attempt at explaining the technology to laypeople.
yeah i have to agree, its not really compelling, if i showed this to my family that hates me for saying things about the election they would just call me crazy... its sad what we are all going though and at this point i dont know what would work.
Because you and your family do not understand how an airplane works does not indicate that flight is impossible. Your problem here is a lack of understanding the technology. Please see my long comment here where I attempt to explain the technology in lay terms. What Mike claims to have is as certain as 2 + 2 = 4.
This man is spending tons of cash… putting his company/reputation on the line, you think he’s gonna just throw some hearsay at the surprise court. I read he’s been hiring mission impossible type spies to go all over gods creation to corroborate leads and data etc.. what kind of evidence do you want? It’s irrefutable if there legit, u want a video of Biden himself flipping votes ? People are waking up hence the name of this movement, narratives are reshaping and much faster than you think.
It is true that we are not given the packets to analyze ourselves here, but that is rather like if I claim to have a Corvette in my garage. If I do, then you could come see for yourself if I wanted to have you over. Mike might be willing to share with you the raw packet data if you want. I think he correctly assumes that most people wouldn't know what to do with it. However, the relevant technology is such that, if Mike is telling the truth that he has the packets and that legal chain of custody was maintained, then his evidence is EVERYTHING. It is rock solid, objective, and 100% irrefutable, just like he says that it is. I encourage you to read my longer comment in this thread where I attempt to explain the technical aspects in lay terms.
How do you imagine that? Is the only evidence suitable to you Xi on his hands and knees outright admitting on camera he did it? What does this "beyond words" evidence look like to you, theoretically, if it's not what Lindell just provided?
What does that look like? Cause what you are asking for is literally a spreadsheet of information. Do you have the technical knowledge to decrypt the information yourself? How would you present it if not in a spreadsheet? Handwrite it? Take a picture of plain text on a computer?
edit: What he is showing isnt the machines switching votes, it's a cyber attack that occurred over the internet by Chinese hackers that flipped votes. So "the machine" didnt do it, the machine was remotely accessed and the data changed
dont get me worng this IS EVIDENCE, just not good enough to wake people up imo, i believe and trust mike and his sources, and this lines up with everything hes said
From a technical standpoint this is indeed 100% proof if these pcap files are legit, hashes verified and mike and cyber dude are not just straight up lying. NICE!
The bothersome part about all of this How do they get this in front of a compromised Supreme Court.
The other issue I can't quite shake is with no evidence what they did to trump for almost 4 years over a fake Russian dossier paid for by the Clinton's.
If there is actual proof here why don't they have a special council looking specifically at election fraud Like they did in 2016-20
I'm keeping the face I hope you're right I really thought they would do something during the Texas case They're very unpredictable almost feels like they've been bought off
The fact that all those countries were involved is very troubling. That is a foreign attack on our country and our republic. To interfere with our election is wrong!
The Supreme Court is between a rock and a hard place if they deny reviewing this case and evidence. If they deny the case, the next logical step would be to post the PCAP data online so that hundreds of independent cyber forensic professionals can review it and come to the same conclusion!
I believe I remember Mike saying that is not the case. He means to file a Quo Warranto, which, as I understand, is basically demanding Biden prove under what authority he pretends to be POTUS. Supposedly Mike's attorneys have assured him that this can be filed directly with SCOTUS. However, I'm not convinced that that is actually the goal. As Mike himself has stated, he wants to spread the information thoroughly first, which puts a LOT of pressure on SCOTUS!
On a related note, frankspeech.com is pretty great. They aired an old documentary last night hosted by John Wayne. According to it, the US was compromised much farther back than many of us have thought. Allegedly, there were Communist forces within our government dragging out conflicts such as the Vietnam war. It may be our Federal Government has been rotten to the core for quite some time, including SCOTUS. We might need something akin to a full reset. What we see as the biggest issues/problems may be stepping stones toward rectifying a much larger problem than many of us have yet fully comprehended.
Okay Mike Lindell, say you’re able to get this all the way to the Supreme Court - the same “9-0” who we already know are compromised - and they rule against your irrefutable proof, then what?
This video is already highly suspect, the title, everything. It’s almost like he already knows they will toss it, hence the “Absolutely 9-0” title. He knows they will cuck on the decision unless SCOTUS are now working for the White Hats.
I would snip out just the montage of all the dems/congressional testimony on how easy it is to hack voting machines. that I could send to the TDS afflicted.
I can only assume that those who captured the data will testify. What happens if SCOTUA just say the data was gathered illegally and can't be presented? Then some DS attorney charges the hackers with THAT cyber crime?
After reading a couple of somewhat negative comments that betrayed a lack of fundamental understanding, I wanted to offer some small clarification on Mike's video. Specifically, I want to address the concern that this just boils down to some anonymous guy's opinion. Nothing could be further from the truth. What Mike claims to have is 100% objective proof that is independent of any particular opinion or analysis. I will briefly try to explain.
There are a couple relevant technologies here that I would like to break down a little bit. I want to try to break this down for laypeople in a bit less technical wording. The first is networking communications between computers.
When data is transmitted across a network, like on the Internet, that data is broken up into what are called 'packets'. For now, let's just think of these as post cards like you would fill out and place in the mail. So if you want to send the Holy Bible to a friend, one (inefficient) way of doing so would be to copy the bible down onto post cards. Fit as much as you can on a post card, then mail that post card to the recipient. This would be very time-consuming, and the post cards might arrive out of order. Some might also be lost in the mail, so you might include a number on each card to identify the order. Then, if by the end there are missing numbers, you might re-write those cards and send the new copies to your recipient. Again, these post cards are analogous to network 'packets' as described in Mike's video.
But what if someone intercepts your mail and alters your post cards? Then your friend might have a copy of the Bible that has been altered, even to the point of conveying a different or opposite message at any or all points. This is a real problem, and it is also a problem for network packets. However, there is a long-established solution. Without that solution, secure online transactions from purchases to banking would all be impossible. So we all already know that technology exists to address this problem, but most of us do not understand it very well.
Sadly, it is quite a bit harder to explain in lay terms how the technology works to guarantee our 'post cards'/packets aren't altered as they are transmitted through the network, but I am going to try. The basic technology involves advanced mathematical encryption of the same sort your online bank would use. This mathematical solution involves a private key and a public key. In our analogy, both you, the sender, and your recipient would have both private and public keys. The private key would be kept secret, but the public key can be shared. These keys can be used to encrypt data such that only the intended recipient can read it. Even more importantly here, these keys can also be used to create a digital signature. This signature incorporates every detail of the network packets or your post cards in a cryptographic algorithm such that it can be proven with mathematical certainty whether or not the contents of the packet or post card has been altered in any way. This is still quite complicated, so let me give a simple example:
Let's say one of your post cards says, "#1346: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)". Using a cryptographic signature, your recipient could verify that the message contents has not been altered with such precision that, if even the received message left out, altered, or added A SINGLE CHARACTER, the digital signature WOULD NOT MATCH and would thus prove with MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY that the message had not been accurately transmitted. In the case of a computer network, that packet would be discarded and a new attempt would be made to send the correct packet with the correct contents.
So, putting this all together, it is as if the voting machines communicated via post cards in the mail to each other. Each post card is time and date stamped, marked for its proper order in the transmission, and every detail is digitally signed so that it can be proven with MATHEMATICAL CERTAINTY whether or not the data was altered between the sender and receiver. Mike claims to have EVERY SINGLE POST CARD FOR THE ENTIRE ELECTION, COMPLETE WITH DIGITAL SIGNATURE! Furthermore, Mike has claimed elsewhere that proper, legal chain of custody was maintained with this data from the time of collection to the present. If both of these claims are true, that can be easily proven, confirmed, and verified. And it means that ANYONE who has the proper training/understanding to check the data will have no choice but to come to the exact same conclusion that his anonymous expert came to. The information IS NOT DEPENDENT ON AN EXPERT TESTIMONY! If this is not true, then digital commerce and online banking would be an impossibility.
So, one last time, let's try to go over a complete analogy. Let's say computers did not exist but mathematical cryptography for encryption and signing is possible. Let's say that all machines in the election were replaced with humans who communicated all election information via post cards which used cryptographic signing to ensure that all data maintained its accuracy. This would include communications like, "Take the votes we tallied since our last post card and add them to the running total for our state. Then add that to the running total for the nation." Some of these post cards might be from foreign actors saying things like, "Biden is falling too far behind in Michigan! Take 32,213 votes from Trump and re-assign those to Biden." Every post card is numbered so you can piece together the original number. Every post card has a data and time stamp, as well. And every post card is cryptographically signed in a way that allows the recipient to confirm whether or not the original message made it without being altered. You can think of this as a mathematical formula each person has. Each also has two very long strings of data corresponding to a private and public key. So when Person A wants to send an update to Person B, he first writes the message, then runs the message through a mathematical function/algorithm along with his secret key and his recipient's public key. The function/algorithm spits out exactly what he then writes on the final post card and sends to the recipient. Furthermore, each new post card includes a cryptographic hash pointing to the previous post card sent. This way, each new post card can be verifiably linked to the previous post card. And Mike has ALL of these post cards!
One final remark about the cryptographic signatures: these are sort of like the "Royal Seal" a king might have used in times past. Royal edicts would have a hot wax seal that the king would press his signet ring into on the assumption that no one can break the seal and put it back without the king's own ring which remains in his possession. Cryptographic signing is MUCH more secure than this!
And, finally, here are a few Wikipedia references to relevant technology discussed above for those who want to dive more deeply into the technical aspects:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
Good job sir! You won this post!
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This should be it's own post with a sticky!!!
Nice breakdown of TCP and asymmetric encryption fellow nerd ;)
Thanks for the kind words! We tech geeks need to help bridge the gap in technical understanding. I think that is the biggest hurdle Mike is facing. So many articulate people don't know tech, and so many tech people aren't very articulate! xD But, together, with God's help, we will get it all sorted out! :D
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I'm not a cyber geek, however the way you explained that is exactly what I've been saying Mike needs. I also believe Colonel Phil Waldron did an excellent job discussing some of these issues and believe Mike should strongly consider him as his spokesperson and he continue to be the financial support.
Very interesting. thank you for the very detailed explanation. If I'm following you correctly (don't have any familiarity with this subject really), we can say that if Mike Lindell has the data he claims to have, there's no way you can "spin the data" and the conclusion can be confirmed by all appropriately trained specialists?
Do you have an opinion on whether Mike really has every single "post card"? I trust him and think he's an honest, good person, but could he be mistaken? Was wondering if with your expertise you could hedge one way or another if he really has it. That really would be something.
Thanks again for taking time to inform us.
As to "spinning the data", if Mike has legal chain of custody from the networked machines to the packets he now has which were captured, then there really isn't much room to spin. It is possible, I suppose, that one could set up a network and fake election data packets, but such a fake would likely not match the real election in many important ways. And such a fake would not have a legal chain of custody. People can lie pretty creatively, however, but I consider this to be pretty decisive. Put it this way, they should not be able to spin this any better than a forensic analysis on digital financial transactions could be spun. And, to my knowledge, when something like the IRS or SEC makes a case based on such data, they win decisively, people go to jail, and/or serious penalties are levied.
I also trust Mike Lindell and believe him to be genuine. I do not have any special access to him, however, so I guess time will tell if he's suckered me in or if he is who he claims to be. As far as whether or not he has every 'post card', I would love to know exactly how he obtained them. I have seen videos of his or on his frankspeech site (can't recall which, exactly) where he said basically that a bunch of good guys repeatedly tried to warn about such an attack and obtained no results. So they decided to record everything themselves. Who were these people? I do not know. And where did they record it? Were they at every polling station? Every county level aggregator? State level? He hasn't really said. To my understanding, there is some sort of "Edison Board" where the vote tallies were supposed to pass through and people can pay to access that system. That's allegedly how MSM outlets show voting totals as they come in. Many early grassroots analyses were based on, for example, the New York Times reports from their access to the Edison Board.
Here's what I hope and think might very well be true: Trump said, "We got them! We got them all!" Trump also called out fraud going back to at least 2012, as I recall. He even stated very specifically over the years various aspects of the fraud. Based on this, I suspect that the military was involved in the data collection. And I suspect the military leaked copies to Mike as part of ongoing irregular warfare efforts. This seems consistent with the DoD warfighting manuals (you know, all that 11.3 stuff and whatnot) and everything else we know. It may be the military is backing Mike and Mike doesn't even fully realize that's who is helping support his efforts. If this is true, perhaps Trump is indeed still controlling much of the military and acting as President (which he is, having won re-election) with many important things going on in the world.
In any case, time will tell. The only thing we know with certainty is that it is God's plan which will prevail in the end. Let's pray God wants to see the US restored to glory with a new peace and prosperity for all of its citizens as they soon embark on a new Golden Age.
Edit: It is worth noting that Mike has said he would gladly share all his data with Rachel Maddow and/or Anderson Cooper, let them thoroughly investigate it, and then report on it with one condition: they have to agree to have him on to discuss their findings. He made this offer on an appearance on Bannon's War Room. To my knowledge, neither has accepted Mikes offer. Mike seems extremely confident, and, so far, no one on the other side seems to want to address his case at all.
I don't know why he bothers with media personalities at all. Just release the raw data to the world, and then experts everywhere can start verifying the evidence. That's the real "proof", the pcap files and the digital signatures to verify their provenance. Not a video, not some expert testimony. Without independently verifying these files, we cannot claim to have proof yet.
This is an AWESOME post! Thank you!
Let me guess... WHO pressed the "record" button to capture the REAL-TIME data flowing across the interwebs.... SPACE FORCE!!
By order of POTUS... DJT/45/Q+
Nope. It was Patrick Byrne and some Texan cyber security professionals that captured this data. Maybe Space Force did too, but that’s where THIS capture came from.
They had observed shenanigans in the 2018 election and were laying in wait for them.
I can vouch for the fact Patrick and his crew were looking into this as you say. Are you sure it is their work that Mike has in his possession? I have followed Mike closely and have never heard him say EXACTLY who the people are who provided him the data on January 9th (that's the correct date, right? I'm too lazy to go back through the video just now! xD). It is great if Patrick's data is what he has, but I think it is even better if he has yet another source, especially if that source is military! Also, if it is Patrick's data he has, I would expect to have seen more of Patrick on frankspeech.com.
I, Peter Strozk, have worked for various governmental agencies as an network engineer and consultant, I know for a fact that MAJOR upstream internet backbone providers certainly have the ability and functionality to create pcaps of this nature and do so all of the time.
No doubt the Fed's/Military have this capability post 9-11 via CALEA.
My big issue with all of this is chain of evidence based, WHO capped the traffic, and why are they not presenting it as evidence.
If this was in-fact either a Mil/Fed operation, then I would argue it is ABSOLUTLEY INCUMBENT upon them to come forward publicly with the information.
I'm ready for the pain, bring it....Durham?
I watched the whole thing. Great info, explained the cyber attacks to me like I’m a 5th grader, I see how it was done. However, will the Supreme Court do it’s job this time? It sounds like they should. But will they? Or were they paid off by China or Sor os?
I pray. That’s all I can do right now and share the video. He asked us to share it everywhere so let’s do that.
'Jesus is not on the cross anymore' --- True.
But the physical cross that he was on isn't standing either. So why wear a cross?
Simple answer. Because it symbolizes the greatest gift ever given to mankind.
The body is no longer on the cross, and the cross itself is no longer standing.
But we revere both. Each is a reminder of the gift.
I'll add that when we look at the crucifix we are reminded of how deep his love was for us and reminded how deep our love should be.
History's best example of sacrificial love.
It's a lower case T which means 'time to leave'
Gotta dress up as ghosts to scare the joggers.
Symbolism. It's important. Jesus isn't on the cross and neither should an image if His body be. C'mon man. That is a Catholic thing. They're steeped in idolatry disguised as holiness.
I'm no longer 'at the altar' on my wedding day. Should I destroy all my wedding photos?
If you had any statues depicting your marriage and you worshiped them would be a more relevant example. Catholic?
Do you know anyone who 'worships' a crucifix? (Answer: No.)
A crucifix, a cross, wedding pictures --- are all reminders. No one 'worships' any of them.
Yeah, I do. the entire Catholic church.
Three hours.
He said on War Room yesterday that he is filing a separate lawsuit against Dominion today as well. Separate from his efforts to get a case to the Supreme Court.
Plus it was verified how many times over by multiple experts? I think this is yuge
Needs a sticky!
Damn, my brain scared me. I saw "Mike Lindell" and "fraud". Heart skipped a fucking beat there. I love that based Pillow Merchant.
Mike is an inspiration! I will be crushed if he is every shown to be less than genuine!
If his expert is accurate then this is a MOAB. Need the courts to weigh in which obviously he is working towards but due to what we saw the courts doing since the election, makes me nervous.
Yes election was a sting operation
Just finished watching - the proof comes down to his 'government expert' and whether any holes can be poked in his data/testimony.
But that data needs to get to experts who can analyze and try to refute it. I imagine the MSM will torpedo this before it even gets to that point by attacking Lindell and labeling him a CT.
Took me a second to get the reference :)
LOL! Thank you for the laugh, fren. M
Isnt the data publicly accessible?
In spreadsheet form, perhaps, but I think they would have to supply the raw packetized info for it to be truly analyzed and confirmed/refuted.
“Experts” lmfao
The purpose of this video and evidence is not to have the sc hear it. They wont and would never invalidate the fraudulent election for whatever reasons they have. Rather the purpose is for us to spread the video evidence far and wide to expose normies and soften them up for what is coming.....overt military action to free & restore the Republic from ccp infiltration and takeover. We all know, NCSWIC ?
I’m torn your point makes a lot of sense, but also at the same time we needed to have a steal to wake a lot of us up as to the enormity of the rigging of elections. Wouldn’t shock me if the rumors of the three justices trump appointed passed intentionally either way lindell could go down as a legendary hero
It only seems that way to you because you do not understand the technology being discussed. Please see my long comment in this thread for a small attempt at explaining the technology to laypeople.
Dudes def a cyber professional based on his technical accuracy of explanations. So let’s change that to “anonymous Cybersecurity professional dude*”
yeah i have to agree, its not really compelling, if i showed this to my family that hates me for saying things about the election they would just call me crazy... its sad what we are all going though and at this point i dont know what would work.
Because you and your family do not understand how an airplane works does not indicate that flight is impossible. Your problem here is a lack of understanding the technology. Please see my long comment here where I attempt to explain the technology in lay terms. What Mike claims to have is as certain as 2 + 2 = 4.
i hope so man, i just didnt see anything that makes me think it isnt based on what some one said, how did he get the vote numbers?
This man is spending tons of cash… putting his company/reputation on the line, you think he’s gonna just throw some hearsay at the surprise court. I read he’s been hiring mission impossible type spies to go all over gods creation to corroborate leads and data etc.. what kind of evidence do you want? It’s irrefutable if there legit, u want a video of Biden himself flipping votes ? People are waking up hence the name of this movement, narratives are reshaping and much faster than you think.
It is true that we are not given the packets to analyze ourselves here, but that is rather like if I claim to have a Corvette in my garage. If I do, then you could come see for yourself if I wanted to have you over. Mike might be willing to share with you the raw packet data if you want. I think he correctly assumes that most people wouldn't know what to do with it. However, the relevant technology is such that, if Mike is telling the truth that he has the packets and that legal chain of custody was maintained, then his evidence is EVERYTHING. It is rock solid, objective, and 100% irrefutable, just like he says that it is. I encourage you to read my longer comment in this thread where I attempt to explain the technical aspects in lay terms.
So, what would you consider evidence?
I have a video of Biden sniffing ballots.
You can verify the votes that are changed with the actual election data.
How do you imagine that? Is the only evidence suitable to you Xi on his hands and knees outright admitting on camera he did it? What does this "beyond words" evidence look like to you, theoretically, if it's not what Lindell just provided?
I took two of the ip addresses from the video and verified that atleast the geographical data is correct and it took less than 1 minute.
https://ipinfo.io/AS55967/180.76.0.0/20-180.76.4.0/25
https://www.findip-address.com/202.46.63.102
What does that look like? Cause what you are asking for is literally a spreadsheet of information. Do you have the technical knowledge to decrypt the information yourself? How would you present it if not in a spreadsheet? Handwrite it? Take a picture of plain text on a computer?
edit: What he is showing isnt the machines switching votes, it's a cyber attack that occurred over the internet by Chinese hackers that flipped votes. So "the machine" didnt do it, the machine was remotely accessed and the data changed
dont get me worng this IS EVIDENCE, just not good enough to wake people up imo, i believe and trust mike and his sources, and this lines up with everything hes said
From a technical standpoint this is indeed 100% proof if these pcap files are legit, hashes verified and mike and cyber dude are not just straight up lying. NICE!
The bothersome part about all of this How do they get this in front of a compromised Supreme Court.
The other issue I can't quite shake is with no evidence what they did to trump for almost 4 years over a fake Russian dossier paid for by the Clinton's.
If there is actual proof here why don't they have a special council looking specifically at election fraud Like they did in 2016-20
Because the corruption runs deep. It is unnerving, to say the least.
I'm keeping the face I hope you're right I really thought they would do something during the Texas case They're very unpredictable almost feels like they've been bought off
The fact that all those countries were involved is very troubling. That is a foreign attack on our country and our republic. To interfere with our election is wrong!
The Supreme Court is between a rock and a hard place if they deny reviewing this case and evidence. If they deny the case, the next logical step would be to post the PCAP data online so that hundreds of independent cyber forensic professionals can review it and come to the same conclusion!
I believe I remember Mike saying that is not the case. He means to file a Quo Warranto, which, as I understand, is basically demanding Biden prove under what authority he pretends to be POTUS. Supposedly Mike's attorneys have assured him that this can be filed directly with SCOTUS. However, I'm not convinced that that is actually the goal. As Mike himself has stated, he wants to spread the information thoroughly first, which puts a LOT of pressure on SCOTUS!
On a related note, frankspeech.com is pretty great. They aired an old documentary last night hosted by John Wayne. According to it, the US was compromised much farther back than many of us have thought. Allegedly, there were Communist forces within our government dragging out conflicts such as the Vietnam war. It may be our Federal Government has been rotten to the core for quite some time, including SCOTUS. We might need something akin to a full reset. What we see as the biggest issues/problems may be stepping stones toward rectifying a much larger problem than many of us have yet fully comprehended.
Love the promotion from “Pillow Man” to “PILLOW KING”
Of course.
Okay Mike Lindell, say you’re able to get this all the way to the Supreme Court - the same “9-0” who we already know are compromised - and they rule against your irrefutable proof, then what?
This video is already highly suspect, the title, everything. It’s almost like he already knows they will toss it, hence the “Absolutely 9-0” title. He knows they will cuck on the decision unless SCOTUS are now working for the White Hats.
I would snip out just the montage of all the dems/congressional testimony on how easy it is to hack voting machines. that I could send to the TDS afflicted.
Thinking the same thing, I’m your face hard to ignore hypocrisy
I can only assume that those who captured the data will testify. What happens if SCOTUA just say the data was gathered illegally and can't be presented? Then some DS attorney charges the hackers with THAT cyber crime?
I think it’s bait.......
WWG1WGA
Yop, watching the water right fucking now