Frens - I’ve had three people very close to me say that they will get the shot because they are worried about long term effects after getting COVID. I hadn’t really heard much about this, but a quick cursory search has articles from places like CDC and WebMd and a few articles on people who are still having problems.
I may have missed discussions on this- but is this just big disinformation?
Advice them to turn off the television and stop watching main stream news. Covid is nothing more than a common cold or flu.
I’m with you. But I need info for them to be able to evaluate - else I’m just the one with the tinfoil hat and easily dismissed.
There ARE reports of long-term effects, just as for the experimental injection. So the best strategy is to take Ivermectin - or HCQ - and zinc NOW (and every week).
Even the experimental injection does not guarantee relief from long-term effects of the infection. Prophylaxis is the answer.
One of the doctors that is on that 5 doctor podcast with Tenpenny said (in a different podcast) that you can make HCQ - which I have done :) Good point, I need to make sure supplements and proactive approach will mitigate . I can just give her fear.
Dr Eric Berg on youtube has super short videos on all questions covid including loss of taste and smell, and lung issues. Watch them yourself, pass them on, the info is out there, if you can get people to listen.
Thank you!!!! I will go check these out and see if I can find some supporting data!!!
Where’s your damn report already!?
Yeah, but they believe these symptoms stay with no relief after the initial infection is gone. These and worse symptoms
Gotta get that free money somewhere
Nah, that’s nothing to do with it.
I’m on the fence. I think it was something at first, but whatever it was has petered out. I am very ‘DNGAF’ about it. teaching my kids same, without the F part ;)
Call bullshit on them. Say there's no evidence to support that, the same way they are saying there's no evidence to support people are dying after getting the VAX.
^^This. How can anyone "know" what the long term damage from the CCP virus is, when it's "novel" since only late 2019? Show them that people pushing the long tern damage narrative are obviously fear mongering because the damn virus has not been in existence "long term."
If they are reading mainstream stories(like this one: https://www.newsday.com/news/health/coronavirus/long-haulers-covid-19-1.50268229), I need some sauce that gives a careful argument why this isn’t the case.
BS article. Your body handles it the same way it handles any other coronavirus. What are the long term effects of the common cold or seasonal flu?
I fervently agree. I’m just looking for debunk :) My telling them it is BS will do nothing.
I understand. Sometimes it's hard to get people to think for themselves. Granted this virus was designed but the only part that was changed was a tweak to change the receptor it would attach to, hence the gain of function tweak. It's still just a coronavirus like hundreds of others we live with daily. It's been estimated that there are 200 different common cold coronaviruses. You never get the same one twice which is why as you grow older you have fewer colds. If this does anything long term it's that it makes you immune to C-19 once you've gotten it.
My friend is actually very into research- but she’s not digging deep enough. I will get to spend some time with her and maybe can open her eyes a bit. Right now, I’m the ‘tinfoil hat bestie’
At this point they are just complete dumbasses.
Many studies have come out in the last week saying the Spike Proteins alone cause disease.
BOTH should be avoided at all costs.
Better yet, just get them some Quercetin and Zinc and tell them "Fauci AND Biden take this every day and they didn't get Covid while Trump did."
Shove that down their brainwash antenna and see how they handle it.
If they still decide to get vaccinated, then they were probably gonna just line up for the gas chambers anyway like good little lemmings.
Sorry, had a rough day.
It’s ok, pal.
I would be more concerned about the long term effects of the jab.
You can still get chinaflu even if you get the jab.
We got a double whammy of bio weapons, the virus, then the "cure"
The America’s frontline doctors website has great info. Here they talk about long haulers syndrome and the treatment. I have a friend who is experiencing this due to comorbidities and won’t even think about going to the website. https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/treatments/long-haul-covid-19/ I have my hydroxy, ivermectin, zinc, quercetin, and z-pack. Good to go! I am armed with knowledge from the truth of the Lord.
Fantastic, I didn’t realize they had articles on this topic there!!!!!!
Long term effects of the so called vaccine: Heart disease, stroke, cancer, sterility, blood clots, auto immune disorders, Guillain-Barre syndrome, DEATH
I used that to open someone’s eyes at work. The number of deaths is staggering
Quite the opposite actually. I had covid and was over it in 4 days. However the gene manipulation caused by the shot lasts a lifetime.
That will be my biggest thing. Lifetime. Unknown consequences. Death rates.
I wonder if you’re trolling to see what kind of nonsense replies you can collect to smear “QAnon” (whatever that is). And it worked.
Apparently no shortage of medical boneheads here.
Many symptoms of Long Covid are relieved with Ivermectin. Bret Weinstein and Dr Pierre Kory discuss the scientific findings and clinical impact of Ivermectin — as both therapeutic and preventative.
But Ivermectin is also showing results after illness, and for those suffering ill effects from the vaccine.
I’m certainly not trolling, but understand the concerns. Of the 3, my brother and his wife (already vaxxed) and one of my besties. I moved 8y ago, but on the road right now and will see her again on Monday. She’s not vaxxed yet, and this is a conversation best done in person with dialog.
I’m grateful for the additional info I’ve received today. I hadn’t heard that invermectin was a treatment for the aftermath- thank you!!!
Dark Horse Podcast has lots of info, clear discussion of clinical studies.
I’m a big podcast listener- so thanks. I haven’t heard of this one :)
Not sure about the long term effects other than hearing people use that as their reason for getting the mRNA experimental gene therapy injection that does not have full FDA approval and is only approved under Emergency Use Authorization (had to include those facts). However, you could point them to these articles to try to sway them away from getting the death jab:
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/urgent-british-report-calls-for-complete-cessation-of-covid-vaccines-in-humans/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-probable-link-between-pfizer-vaccine-small-number-myocarditis-cases-2021-06-01/
Known, reported (and in alarming numbers) adverse reactions to the mRNA shots, that 1( do not keep you from getting COVID and 2) do not keep you from spreading COVID and 3) all for a virus that has a 99.97 survival rate and most of the people that do get it, have to be told they're sick because they have little or no symptoms.
I put a link (reply to someone else on this thread) to an anecdotal story about long term effects someone is experiencing. Honestly, I don’t watch mainstream news and has never heard I’d this at all. I’m unsure how prevalent those stories are, but it is coming up more in my personal relationships.
I guess my point was, ask them what the potential long term effects of getting the mRNA shots might be. Death would seem like the ultimate "long-term effect" and over 5000 (in the U.S alone) people have met that end as a result of the C-19 shots in just the past 6 months - that number is more than double the number who have died because of all other vaccines combined for the past 20-years. Those are CDC numbers, not something someone pulled out of their ass on the internet.
I get having a bad day. Mine was yesterday... tomorrow will be better. And thank you for the input :)
Maybe I can share the VAERS numbers with her. The anecdotal effects she already thinks are misinformation.
I'd be more worried of longterm effects of the vaccine...the spike protein is pathogenic...the "vaccines" cause your body to manufacture the spike protein...
The vaxx is so unknown. I’m not clear on what effects from what supplier..... but all bad. Ug!!!!
Ummm what about the long term effects of that shot? Think those will be far worse.
For sure. I’m gathering those links now... at least to give more data to evaluate.
Yeah, I know one couple who had it and said it took them a very long time to recover, that it 'kicked their butts' and that even a few months later, they still get very tired very easily. That's the worst I've personally heard and these people are back to living their normal lives, but they say they do tire easily. They are older folks, maybe 58-60. I know another guy who said he was afraid after seeing a news report that supposedly showed a lung damaged from covid and that there was no way to repair it. True? No idea. I don't trust the media enough to believe they gave an honest report, sadly.
This sounds like their concern. Of these 3 I mentioned, the youngest is 51, the others are 60+. I’m not sure how much Tenpenny might impact, but that’s my next route.
The long term effect of covid, the flu, and sars is scaring of the lungs. It can takes years to repairs and the lungs are never the same again.
I’d never heard of any long term effects from the flu!
A colleague of mine recovered from Covid, but died from lung scarring soon after.
but they are not worried about the long term effects of the shot? lol
Long term effects, like immunity?
I think balding was one she mentioned...?
Here give them this video by Dr. Peter McCullough. He is interviewed and answers many question regarding COVID, immunity & the vaxxx. It is long but so worth it! Besides your people are contemplating take a vaxxx that could END their lives. What’s an hour & 1/2 when your FN life is at stake?
https://rumble.com/vhp7y5-full-interview-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html?mref=6gby3&mc=98uay
I juuuuuuuust opened this from a link on the main page and then saw that I had new messages. Qincidence? I THINK NOT
Hope they listen.
Me too. I’m not very persuasive, so I need all the prayers I can get. So does she.
I know one fellow that swears he was in the hospital with heart issues after he had covid.
I suspect the idiot had issues from the vaccine but isn't admitting it. His father had gotten covid and I believe he ran down and took the shot. I have since read that young men taking the shot have been having heart related problems.
So which one does your friend want to worry about more? The one that most people completely recover from or the one that seems to have a lot of death, and lingering health issues.
I think she’s not buying the info on the vaxx effects. My goal while I am visiting is to have a heart to heart and see what I can do to clarify that.
Same as long term effects of the other flus ,none.
If they had covid they should never EVER get the shots, even more dangerous than someone who never had covid. That is the impression I'm getting.
I shared that with someone at work. Total shock, since he got the shot because he was hit hard when he got COVID.
So there are anecdotes out there. What reputable resources (e.g not CDC) can I point to that address and debunk that? I wasn’t able to find anything.
Yeah! But that won’t sink in. Facts and data will help