Don't be hard on yourself many of us were deceived by these demons. We have good hearts and want to be positive and give people the benefit of the doubt. We have learned a valuable lesson from all of this.
Do your own research and draw your own conclusions about these high profile individuals, no matter what Trump or anyone else says glowingly about them at any point in time.
There's been plenty of disturbing info available on both those guys well before the Q op started, it should have been disseminated much farther and wider than it was so NO ONE gets a damn "enefit of the doubt" when we should always assume the worse for them to get as far as they have until proven OTHERWISE, The stakes have been too high to play nice to seemingly nice guys.
Pence + Paul Ryan scheme against Trump
Pence handling of pedophilia scandals as governor
Pence body language + apparent sneaky chats with Pelosi during 2020 SOTU
BB being closely connected to Poppy Bush, the Iran Contra stuff, CIA South American ops in general, definitely involved in cover ups.
BB's warm farewell to RR when he stepped down
BB consistent combo of tough talk and inaction
BB's father
What if Barr is a good "bad" actor? I cant make up my mind on that damn guy. I mean, by allowing(ignoring) the fraud, we are here now, evidence galore. I'm just one 'tard pepe observer. This whole movie is bonkers, man. Mario Voice: Ohhh nooo!
I second what u/AngelCole said. These people are master deceivers, which is why they are in the position they are in.
Did you know that Pence used to be a Democrat at one point? I used to be a Dem when I was younger as well, but it's very telling when Pence was so revered by his conservative peers.
Do we have someone like that now on our side? Maybe Ron DeSantis? Jim Jordan? Rand Paul? What about when we had high hopes for Nikki Haley?
Pence also moved to Carmel, IN , a city that voted primarily for Joe Biden in 2020. (The rich side of Indy for sure).
It really shows you can't go by what people say, only their actions - past and present.
As “intriguing” as this “witness” may be I can give it no credence. If this young man will give a deposition, under oath and penalty of perjury, I will listen to his deposition. I still would not be able to act upon it until he is cross examined in a court. Sorry.
There are many unproven stories like this about Pence on the internet.
Right now, I give full credence to his testimony about Christ. Pence is affiliated with the Evangelical Free Church of America. This is a solid Bible based organization. I have attended services in their churches many times. They teach the Word straight out of the Bible, expositorily, from the pulpit.
As “Christian” as any church I have been in.
Going to church - even a “Bible believing” church - does not make someone a Christian. Satan knows the Bible better than most Believers - he can quote it (and twist it) masterfully. He infiltrates MANY, many churches through people who serve him through their own pride and unforgiveness. I think we can all agree Satan is not a Christ-follower.
Then I’m sure you (should) know that Christian politicians that openly share the name and work of Jesus Christ, openly defend the Truth of God’s Word, take a firm stand against Roe vs Wade and the practice of abortion, openly condemn homosexuality and transgenderism, and do protective things like refusing to meet with women alone for lunch, etc are a prime target of defamation by the left and other Satan captured mindsets. Mike Pence is not your average “church-goer”.
Please, if you find some PROOF that Pence is a Pedo please post that.
WOW! Of course I know that people who are Believers are a target for defamation, which is WHY, if you go back through this thread and read my other comments, you will find that I did not say I agreed with the accusations against Pence. I have said that if this young man’s accusations are credible, it should be dealt with by law enforcement (whatever that is for people in Pence’s position) because none of us, hearing any accusation in the media against ANY person, has even half a clue whether or not it is credible. Lots of opinions here that Pence is a creep and a pedo. I’m reserving judgment, because it’s not mine (or ours) to judge either way. We don’t see the whole picture and judgment belongs to the One Who sits at the right hand of the Father.
When Robert David Steel said Pence was a pedo I was like, mmm....I don't want him to be, but after hearing that 5 years ago, all I could see were those deceptive monkey eyes!
This is the first person/vitim I have heard say anything about him, and I must say I believe him. Thanks for sharing.
Wish the Body Language Panel would analyse him I think he would pass with flying colours, however, it would be too controversial for them to do.
I had a friend growing up that could make up stories like that on the fly... fun to listen to but crazy as shit....we called him Roy Disney and later after the move we called him Simba ( the lyin king)
While I actually pray this is fake for the sake of the ‘victims’ it would not shock me in the slightest if it was true...but if true I think they would of disappeared them after the first escape attempt.....
Man. Its not that. Just, he does need to prove himself. We believe in innocent untill proven guilty, we arent a mob. Remember, the left said the same things about all their "victims."
We should be reluctant to jump to conclusions without evidence. I would say however that there are certain rules of human nature that follow. What is the end goal? Why is this person speaking out? What do they have to gain? If theres a huge multi million dollar lawsuit against pence then maybe its for that. If its just to have the story told and the truth out thats a lot more compelling. If this man has nothing to gain then why put a target on his back for nothing? I would say the evil we have seen evidence of is not too far from this line of occurence. Doesnt prove this but it is believable that this could be true. Lets keep digging and find the truth
Sorry, I don't automatically believe all alleged victims. If we did this, you also believe Trump is a pedophile rapist too, because he's been accused of it by multiple people.
Fine.. I think the kid is a liar. I do t find him credible at all and think I’d half his story was true hed be dead.
That doesn’t mean I give pence or any other peso a pass but I need hellnof a lot more then he broke a pregnant ladies arm and followed him with the secret service...
Maybe the kids story checks out but I’m not belive I g everything I hear as gospel.... ask Brett Kavanaugh
Look! My kids were molested by a neighbour when they were small, so I know pedophilia and the damage it does first hand. What happened to them destroyed my marriage and our family. So I am the first one to say “believe the accuser - especially kids” - but what have we seen over the past several years? Accusations thrown out all over the place. My little kids had to be interviewed by a detective, they had to give very uncomfortable testimony about things they felt very shamed and guilty about. If it’s credible, it needs to be dealt with by law enforcement. A legitimate victim of such crimes is not anxious to spill their guts about child sexual experiences on the internet for all to see/hear. It’s not a joke!
Innocent until proven guilty. We dont follow mob rule. (I still think pence is shitty cabal just...)
This story is full of glaring holes...
"My mom got beat upseveral times, even hospitilized by a fall." First off, I know for a fact the hospital would start an investigation. Seen that happen multiple times. They dont play around.
"We ran away, and then. Mike pence picked us up and carried us back with his brute strength, so my mom rented a car and and, we ran away again!" Comon man. How tf did she rent a car? (And im being sarcastic about pence's super strength because its a common theme.)
"He was just talking to me, offering me these 8 year olds, trying to be cool, and I said no. So he pulls out a bat from his back pocket and beats my knees." He would have been crippled and hospitalized (again, hospital investigations).
"Pence locked me in a coffin for 9 hourse and laughed manically outside."
Just... relisten to this and play it like a movie in your head. It plays like a cartoon.
I have to agree with this. The guy also mentioned he had recorded Pence. Just mentioned it. So where’s the recording? Had they played it, there would have been zero doubt about his story. Where was his mother? It’s missing details. Major details that can be used to prove his story. What hospitals? Which rental car place? Dates… etc. it’s stuff like that which could make a huge difference.
It’s not that I don’t believe the VP may be a pedo. There was a post here recently from someone talking about the VP along those same lines too. It’s like with Trump, Kavanaugh etc. you need tangible evidence or it’s just hearsay. He said, she said.
So are you trying to say that Hillary is “innocent” now? Just because it hasn’t been officially “proven”? What about Pelosi? Obama? Well, reality alert: all of these people (and so many more traitors) are guilty.
No. Hillary has commited a ton of crimes and the evidence is everywhere. One example, selling military intel via special acess programs with her personal server.
Same for the others. We have logical and statistical data and a ton of evidence to prove it.
I dont see Pence jumping in to stop this testimony nor any hard evidence to support this and his story IS really off. Thats all im saying.
Iv watched a lot of testimonies, about the elitist satanic child trafficking. I can refrence them by name if youd like. This just doesnt stike me as one that's sencire.
You cannot compare a private citizen young man who none of us have ever observed in real life to public personas like HRC and Pelosi who do things that are part of the public record, like tearing up the President’s speech and the SOTU and dishonouring all those people, or being proven of lying to the American people about a situation (Benghazi) that got Americans killed. It’s apples and oranges - don’t buy into it just because you want proof Pence is a creep. Believe me, there will be plenty of credible evidence that surfaces if, in fact, he is what they’re saying he is. We don’t need this kid to make the case - it could very well be a leftist false flag designed to make any future accusations seem just as incredible.
on specific accusations, yeah innocent until proven guilty.
But like I mentioned in another comment here, for anyone who gets as far as a Pence or a Bill Barr have gotten, assume there's skeletons in the closet or worse with them no matter how nice / straight edge / tough talking their public persona.
What an eye opener on Pence. I knew he was a pedophile, but this the first personal experience I've seen. Everyone needs to watch this to understand the monster that Pence is. There is a special place in hell for him.
I don't necessarily believe Praying Medic is a shill, but he's interested in doing whatever it takes to move his books and merch and that's his primary objective. What happens if you lock out Pence supporters? Take a real stand? You lose customers, and the average Pence sheeple are Christians who buy Christian books. I truly hope Praying Medic isn't totally co-opted by feebs/CIA.
You really called it right, fren. Dave Hayes was an atheist who jumped on the Q wagon either as a plant or to make a buck (or to make a buck from being a plant). It's a little convenient that this lifelong atheist has a "vision" then is instantly in the book selling business telling Christians how it all works. Wifey likes counting those fat stacks. Dave likes the attention.
Yes - believe the accuser, but then that doesn’t always work either does it? I think we’re going to have a lot of this stuff coming out in the months ahead. If we don’t like people accusing the people we support, we can’t relish accusations that may or may not be credible against people we don’t support. I think we need to stay focused on the bigger picture and let these situations be dealt with privately.
Yeah, Cruz is under Trump control but not a good guy. If you recall, he was the one who stole the Iowa primary. Trump pointed out The Steal then, called Cruz out on rigging the votes, and nobody gave a damn. Since then, our President has managed to lock Cruz down, but some of us DO NOT FORGET. We sure as hell don't forgive. Remember that, Michael Pence.
Don't be hard on yourself many of us were deceived by these demons. We have good hearts and want to be positive and give people the benefit of the doubt. We have learned a valuable lesson from all of this.
Do your own research and draw your own conclusions about these high profile individuals, no matter what Trump or anyone else says glowingly about them at any point in time.
There's been plenty of disturbing info available on both those guys well before the Q op started, it should have been disseminated much farther and wider than it was so NO ONE gets a damn "enefit of the doubt" when we should always assume the worse for them to get as far as they have until proven OTHERWISE, The stakes have been too high to play nice to seemingly nice guys.
Pence + Paul Ryan scheme against Trump Pence handling of pedophilia scandals as governor Pence body language + apparent sneaky chats with Pelosi during 2020 SOTU
BB being closely connected to Poppy Bush, the Iran Contra stuff, CIA South American ops in general, definitely involved in cover ups. BB's warm farewell to RR when he stepped down BB consistent combo of tough talk and inaction BB's father
and so on
I think people, (especially those that have made it here) have come a long way from the previous trust we once had.
Everyone should do their own research, and it also helps everyone greatly when we share this information together.
It's one of the things that attracted me to this movement.
AngelCole- Amen to your words. How true this is!
What if Barr is a good "bad" actor? I cant make up my mind on that damn guy. I mean, by allowing(ignoring) the fraud, we are here now, evidence galore. I'm just one 'tard pepe observer. This whole movie is bonkers, man. Mario Voice: Ohhh nooo!
He seemed supportive of Trump, but turned on him at the end. Perhaps the deep state showed him the video they have of him with a minor child.
I second what u/AngelCole said. These people are master deceivers, which is why they are in the position they are in.
Did you know that Pence used to be a Democrat at one point? I used to be a Dem when I was younger as well, but it's very telling when Pence was so revered by his conservative peers.
Do we have someone like that now on our side? Maybe Ron DeSantis? Jim Jordan? Rand Paul? What about when we had high hopes for Nikki Haley?
Pence also moved to Carmel, IN , a city that voted primarily for Joe Biden in 2020. (The rich side of Indy for sure).
It really shows you can't go by what people say, only their actions - past and present.
Same here….I thought he was one of the good guys. I guess I’m not as discerning as I thought.
As “intriguing” as this “witness” may be I can give it no credence. If this young man will give a deposition, under oath and penalty of perjury, I will listen to his deposition. I still would not be able to act upon it until he is cross examined in a court. Sorry.
There are many unproven stories like this about Pence on the internet.
Right now, I give full credence to his testimony about Christ. Pence is affiliated with the Evangelical Free Church of America. This is a solid Bible based organization. I have attended services in their churches many times. They teach the Word straight out of the Bible, expositorily, from the pulpit.
As “Christian” as any church I have been in.
Going to church - even a “Bible believing” church - does not make someone a Christian. Satan knows the Bible better than most Believers - he can quote it (and twist it) masterfully. He infiltrates MANY, many churches through people who serve him through their own pride and unforgiveness. I think we can all agree Satan is not a Christ-follower.
Then I’m sure you (should) know that Christian politicians that openly share the name and work of Jesus Christ, openly defend the Truth of God’s Word, take a firm stand against Roe vs Wade and the practice of abortion, openly condemn homosexuality and transgenderism, and do protective things like refusing to meet with women alone for lunch, etc are a prime target of defamation by the left and other Satan captured mindsets. Mike Pence is not your average “church-goer”.
Please, if you find some PROOF that Pence is a Pedo please post that.
Pence is crap
WOW! Of course I know that people who are Believers are a target for defamation, which is WHY, if you go back through this thread and read my other comments, you will find that I did not say I agreed with the accusations against Pence. I have said that if this young man’s accusations are credible, it should be dealt with by law enforcement (whatever that is for people in Pence’s position) because none of us, hearing any accusation in the media against ANY person, has even half a clue whether or not it is credible. Lots of opinions here that Pence is a creep and a pedo. I’m reserving judgment, because it’s not mine (or ours) to judge either way. We don’t see the whole picture and judgment belongs to the One Who sits at the right hand of the Father.
Well said fren. Danke 🙏
When Robert David Steel said Pence was a pedo I was like, mmm....I don't want him to be, but after hearing that 5 years ago, all I could see were those deceptive monkey eyes!
This is the first person/vitim I have heard say anything about him, and I must say I believe him. Thanks for sharing.
Wish the Body Language Panel would analyse him I think he would pass with flying colours, however, it would be too controversial for them to do.
I had a friend growing up that could make up stories like that on the fly... fun to listen to but crazy as shit....we called him Roy Disney and later after the move we called him Simba ( the lyin king) While I actually pray this is fake for the sake of the ‘victims’ it would not shock me in the slightest if it was true...but if true I think they would of disappeared them after the first escape attempt.....
why not just call this VICTIM a liar ? Sickening what you're doing and a big part of the reason Elite Pedo's operate with impunity.
Man. Its not that. Just, he does need to prove himself. We believe in innocent untill proven guilty, we arent a mob. Remember, the left said the same things about all their "victims."
His story is also full of holes.
lol
Pence committed TREASON and you don't want to jump to conclusions about whether or not he is a rapist.
There is this thing called Pizzagate, you might want look into.
We should be reluctant to jump to conclusions without evidence. I would say however that there are certain rules of human nature that follow. What is the end goal? Why is this person speaking out? What do they have to gain? If theres a huge multi million dollar lawsuit against pence then maybe its for that. If its just to have the story told and the truth out thats a lot more compelling. If this man has nothing to gain then why put a target on his back for nothing? I would say the evil we have seen evidence of is not too far from this line of occurence. Doesnt prove this but it is believable that this could be true. Lets keep digging and find the truth
ok, goofball. lol
His testimony would be FACTUAL EVIDENCE IN A COURT OF LAW
95% of Pedophile assault convictions are from VICTIM TESTIMONY
Please explain the holes his story is full of.
Sorry, I don't automatically believe all alleged victims. If we did this, you also believe Trump is a pedophile rapist too, because he's been accused of it by multiple people.
If you do not know who the White Hats and the Black Hats are at this point, you are a fucking idiot.
If you think you do, you're a fucking idiot.
So was Christine Blasey Ford's testimoney but that doesn't make it true.
We sound like the left when we get like this.
I broke it down somewhere in this comment section. Its long and has a lot of green text so you cant miss it lol.
Pence and Ford are cut from the same cloth but you too fucking stupid to know it.
Fine.. I think the kid is a liar. I do t find him credible at all and think I’d half his story was true hed be dead.
That doesn’t mean I give pence or any other peso a pass but I need hellnof a lot more then he broke a pregnant ladies arm and followed him with the secret service...
Maybe the kids story checks out but I’m not belive I g everything I hear as gospel.... ask Brett Kavanaugh
Look! My kids were molested by a neighbour when they were small, so I know pedophilia and the damage it does first hand. What happened to them destroyed my marriage and our family. So I am the first one to say “believe the accuser - especially kids” - but what have we seen over the past several years? Accusations thrown out all over the place. My little kids had to be interviewed by a detective, they had to give very uncomfortable testimony about things they felt very shamed and guilty about. If it’s credible, it needs to be dealt with by law enforcement. A legitimate victim of such crimes is not anxious to spill their guts about child sexual experiences on the internet for all to see/hear. It’s not a joke!
Lyin' King! ???
Okay. I just gotta vent this...
Innocent until proven guilty. We dont follow mob rule. (I still think pence is shitty cabal just...)
This story is full of glaring holes...
"My mom got beat upseveral times, even hospitilized by a fall." First off, I know for a fact the hospital would start an investigation. Seen that happen multiple times. They dont play around.
"We ran away, and then. Mike pence picked us up and carried us back with his brute strength, so my mom rented a car and and, we ran away again!" Comon man. How tf did she rent a car? (And im being sarcastic about pence's super strength because its a common theme.)
"He was just talking to me, offering me these 8 year olds, trying to be cool, and I said no. So he pulls out a bat from his back pocket and beats my knees." He would have been crippled and hospitalized (again, hospital investigations).
"Pence locked me in a coffin for 9 hourse and laughed manically outside."
Just... relisten to this and play it like a movie in your head. It plays like a cartoon.
I have to agree with this. The guy also mentioned he had recorded Pence. Just mentioned it. So where’s the recording? Had they played it, there would have been zero doubt about his story. Where was his mother? It’s missing details. Major details that can be used to prove his story. What hospitals? Which rental car place? Dates… etc. it’s stuff like that which could make a huge difference.
It’s not that I don’t believe the VP may be a pedo. There was a post here recently from someone talking about the VP along those same lines too. It’s like with Trump, Kavanaugh etc. you need tangible evidence or it’s just hearsay. He said, she said.
I think he said he recorded the steve haskell character not pence. Could be mistaken though
So are you trying to say that Hillary is “innocent” now? Just because it hasn’t been officially “proven”? What about Pelosi? Obama? Well, reality alert: all of these people (and so many more traitors) are guilty.
No. Hillary has commited a ton of crimes and the evidence is everywhere. One example, selling military intel via special acess programs with her personal server.
Same for the others. We have logical and statistical data and a ton of evidence to prove it.
I dont see Pence jumping in to stop this testimony nor any hard evidence to support this and his story IS really off. Thats all im saying.
Iv watched a lot of testimonies, about the elitist satanic child trafficking. I can refrence them by name if youd like. This just doesnt stike me as one that's sencire.
You cannot compare a private citizen young man who none of us have ever observed in real life to public personas like HRC and Pelosi who do things that are part of the public record, like tearing up the President’s speech and the SOTU and dishonouring all those people, or being proven of lying to the American people about a situation (Benghazi) that got Americans killed. It’s apples and oranges - don’t buy into it just because you want proof Pence is a creep. Believe me, there will be plenty of credible evidence that surfaces if, in fact, he is what they’re saying he is. We don’t need this kid to make the case - it could very well be a leftist false flag designed to make any future accusations seem just as incredible.
on specific accusations, yeah innocent until proven guilty.
But like I mentioned in another comment here, for anyone who gets as far as a Pence or a Bill Barr have gotten, assume there's skeletons in the closet or worse with them no matter how nice / straight edge / tough talking their public persona.
What an eye opener on Pence. I knew he was a pedophile, but this the first personal experience I've seen. Everyone needs to watch this to understand the monster that Pence is. There is a special place in hell for him.
Were you in the room with him when he pedoed?
your gaslighting is noted, Glowboy
Are you the hall monitor hired by the CCP?
Sounds like desperate bs
Your reply? Yeah.
Praying Medic will defend Pence to the end.
I don't necessarily believe Praying Medic is a shill, but he's interested in doing whatever it takes to move his books and merch and that's his primary objective. What happens if you lock out Pence supporters? Take a real stand? You lose customers, and the average Pence sheeple are Christians who buy Christian books. I truly hope Praying Medic isn't totally co-opted by feebs/CIA.
Feels like Praying Medic is managed by his wife. She rules the roost.
You really called it right, fren. Dave Hayes was an atheist who jumped on the Q wagon either as a plant or to make a buck (or to make a buck from being a plant). It's a little convenient that this lifelong atheist has a "vision" then is instantly in the book selling business telling Christians how it all works. Wifey likes counting those fat stacks. Dave likes the attention.
I was checking that out.
Wow. There is a special place in hell for this. All eternity is a ,long time.
Yes - believe the accuser, but then that doesn’t always work either does it? I think we’re going to have a lot of this stuff coming out in the months ahead. If we don’t like people accusing the people we support, we can’t relish accusations that may or may not be credible against people we don’t support. I think we need to stay focused on the bigger picture and let these situations be dealt with privately.
Hey I think there's more of these guys than we realize. Years ago there were tge same kind of accusations about Ted Cruz
Yeah, Cruz is under Trump control but not a good guy. If you recall, he was the one who stole the Iowa primary. Trump pointed out The Steal then, called Cruz out on rigging the votes, and nobody gave a damn. Since then, our President has managed to lock Cruz down, but some of us DO NOT FORGET. We sure as hell don't forgive. Remember that, Michael Pence.
Yes, unbelievable story. Seen this a while ago amazing and courageous man speaking out! ?☝️? although if this is legitimate and reliable
Any other link? The YouTube video was taken down.
Thanks Ozzie.