Data is such a mess it will never be straightened out. Remember the first people vaccinated were the high risk. They already had less of a life expectancy and as time passed they had less. I suspect some part of this excess mortality, not much, is due to higher risk patients. It should become clearer soon as there is a bigger vaccinated group.
While true that there is bias in the risk v. vaccine status, it is also true that the data for the earlier variants does not show this particular bias (at least not according to past data. There is no current data on this in this report).
Also I want to amend my previous statement. If you add in the confirmed and "Probably" Delta cases the death rate is TWELVE times more in the original.
At what point does this become so ludicrous that even the most asleep will be able to see reality?
From what I understand historically every variant of a true virus becomes weaker NOT deadlier but spreads easier. This is another scare campaign as far as I can tell
There is no variation, its not novel, and there is no pandemic. It is the biggest SCAM ever devised. The covid-19 injectoids are not for the virus. It is designed to alter and program the body to produce spike proteins. This is death being let in the door. It is Democide.
From what I understand from my discussions with a few doctors is that viruses, like any organism, want to reproduce and spread. Therefore killing a host is not conducive to this goal. As a virus, you want to be highly contagious, but not lethal. It would make sense that viruses would mutate with these desired traits, or rather, viruses with these traits are more likely to reproduce.
This would also align with someone (i.e. China or the Deep State) weaponizing viruses as a bioweapon. You don't want to kill your enemies. Dead people don't take up resources. You want to weaken them in large numbers quickly so that you overwhelm their health survices, reduce productivity, and destroy their economy.
This is correct. A virus does not want its host dead because it cannot survive without the body being alive.
An ideal scenario of natural selection for a virus is to present virtually no symptoms but be highly contagious and to not cause harm ultimately to the host. Better yet is to actually protect the host from other forms of infection (symbiosis scenario).
Vaccine lifts selection pressure for otherwise lethal variants in order to be passed to the unvaccinated and kill them. This is why the MSM are calling the unvaccinated "Variant factories" in typical inversion.
I haven't actually heard that it is deadlier. I have heard a psy-op way of talking though: "The deadly delta variant...." Of course it is deadly if anyone died of it, but is it deadlier than alpha? (The first wave) No, it isn't, you are only primed to think that. Then "is spreading rapidly...." Which is probably also true, but your brain is still back on "deadly." After a while what you remember best are the first and last words of a statement and soon (((they))) hope you are properly afraid.
updoot for the "psy-op way of talking" point. This is a great example of how propaganda works: it's not outright lying; it is lying by innuendo and sophistry.
This argument makes no sense to me. By this logic, the original viruses that evolved however millions of years ago were the most lethal of all time and each subsequent evolution could only be less lethal and/or more transmissible. It’s a bizarre all encompassing claim to make instead of just looking at the data that shows that delta is approximately as deadly as Covid, like that published from the UK government.
That is a complete lie. In the UK, between Feb 1 and Jun 21, 117 people died from the delta variant. 117 deaths in 4.7 months. That works out as ,less than 1 death per day from the delta variant. In a country of over 60 million people. Again, less than 1 death per day. The delta variant is weak and pathetic.
This is exactly what you would expect from viruses. Viruses need to become less deadly to survive. If a virus kills too many hosts, it dies out.
The other issue with all of this - we're working from seriously flawed data. Remember during early and middle of 2020, with all of the Fauci Birx presentations, the numbers were going wild over 'tested positive', and 'died from' Covid? and the incentives to hospitals to have Covid-diagnosed patients? The captured numbers were such garbage that making comparisons using this data is just leading to making bad conclusions. Additionally, the deaths in the early months of Covid were, arguably, from mis-treatment of the hospitalized patients (remember the doctors who posted videos of themselves discussing how ventilation was overused or pressure exceeded that sustainable by the lungs and this treatment 'blew out' (their phrase, not mine) the lungs)? And, of course, the "died from vs died with" Covid bias of the captured data would lead us, today, to believe that this virus was less deadly than even the "99.56%" survivable rate, or greater, depending on age brackets.
I would think a more accurate 'guess' would center around using the expected flu casualties for 2020, and scrub the actual covid and flu data in 2020 (less physical accidents, homocides, fentanyl overdoses, etc.) and start looking there.
In my understanding, it is not all viruses become less deadly over time.
Rather a virus mutates in an animal, then it has a mutation that humans can catch, that first iteration will be most deadly, then become more contagious and less deadly as it spreads around.
Not all viruses are of the same lineage in that sense.
". . ., Explain to me the logic, . . ."
There's the problem - you asked for a logical explanation. None of the narratives surrounding the coof have to be logical; they only need to be repeated so often by so many people in so many places/outlets that they automatically replay in the sheeple's minds, at which point narratives will be accepted as unquestionable fact.
That isn't true. Viruses have mutated to become more lethal and virulent however the overall trend is towards preserving transmission instead of killing host. Artificial pressures like these mRNA could possibly create more lethal strains or strains with new ways of evading immune system. Look up some of the vaccines that were leaky vaccines used in chickens that ended up becoming stronger and more lethal in the chicken populations.
But the majority does not know this, since they do no research and are at the mercy of the MSM and lousy doctors. So, it is completely logical to push this stupid lie and keep the fear porn going. So logical, that millions will run out for a booster!
Normies are retarded and believe anything. These are the people driving alone in a car with a mask on. They watch the MSM and buy everything they say and the MSM is actually telling people that the "delta variant" is MORE deadly and will probably require a booster shot in the fall.
The data says its less lethal. It also says its more lethal for vaccinated(page 17), even though its really low for both.
Their data suggests the Delta variant is 7 times less lethal than the original, and 2.5 times more deadly for the vaccinated.
Hard to push a narrative with such blatant numbers, but they still will!
Data is such a mess it will never be straightened out. Remember the first people vaccinated were the high risk. They already had less of a life expectancy and as time passed they had less. I suspect some part of this excess mortality, not much, is due to higher risk patients. It should become clearer soon as there is a bigger vaccinated group.
While true that there is bias in the risk v. vaccine status, it is also true that the data for the earlier variants does not show this particular bias (at least not according to past data. There is no current data on this in this report).
Also I want to amend my previous statement. If you add in the confirmed and "Probably" Delta cases the death rate is TWELVE times more in the original.
At what point does this become so ludicrous that even the most asleep will be able to see reality?
Perhaps that's the goal.
From what I understand historically every variant of a true virus becomes weaker NOT deadlier but spreads easier. This is another scare campaign as far as I can tell
There is no variation, its not novel, and there is no pandemic. It is the biggest SCAM ever devised. The covid-19 injectoids are not for the virus. It is designed to alter and program the body to produce spike proteins. This is death being let in the door. It is Democide.
I've been saying from the beginning - Not a pandemic, much less an epidemic....
From what I understand from my discussions with a few doctors is that viruses, like any organism, want to reproduce and spread. Therefore killing a host is not conducive to this goal. As a virus, you want to be highly contagious, but not lethal. It would make sense that viruses would mutate with these desired traits, or rather, viruses with these traits are more likely to reproduce.
This would also align with someone (i.e. China or the Deep State) weaponizing viruses as a bioweapon. You don't want to kill your enemies. Dead people don't take up resources. You want to weaken them in large numbers quickly so that you overwhelm their health survices, reduce productivity, and destroy their economy.
This is correct. A virus does not want its host dead because it cannot survive without the body being alive.
An ideal scenario of natural selection for a virus is to present virtually no symptoms but be highly contagious and to not cause harm ultimately to the host. Better yet is to actually protect the host from other forms of infection (symbiosis scenario).
Vaccine lifts selection pressure for otherwise lethal variants in order to be passed to the unvaccinated and kill them. This is why the MSM are calling the unvaccinated "Variant factories" in typical inversion.
Dr David Martin explains the Delta Variant is just a snippet from the same DNA sequence. worth reposting:
Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/video/FPFE8nQYLBFr/ (54:02)
Odysee: https://odysee.com/@FwapUK:1/A-manufactured-illusion.-Dr-David-Martin-with-Reiner-Fuellmich-9_7_21_-720p:5
yes, everyone needs to see this.
I haven't actually heard that it is deadlier. I have heard a psy-op way of talking though: "The deadly delta variant...." Of course it is deadly if anyone died of it, but is it deadlier than alpha? (The first wave) No, it isn't, you are only primed to think that. Then "is spreading rapidly...." Which is probably also true, but your brain is still back on "deadly." After a while what you remember best are the first and last words of a statement and soon (((they))) hope you are properly afraid.
updoot for the "psy-op way of talking" point. This is a great example of how propaganda works: it's not outright lying; it is lying by innuendo and sophistry.
This argument makes no sense to me. By this logic, the original viruses that evolved however millions of years ago were the most lethal of all time and each subsequent evolution could only be less lethal and/or more transmissible. It’s a bizarre all encompassing claim to make instead of just looking at the data that shows that delta is approximately as deadly as Covid, like that published from the UK government.
"delta is approximately as deadly as Covid".
That is a complete lie. In the UK, between Feb 1 and Jun 21, 117 people died from the delta variant. 117 deaths in 4.7 months. That works out as ,less than 1 death per day from the delta variant. In a country of over 60 million people. Again, less than 1 death per day. The delta variant is weak and pathetic.
This is exactly what you would expect from viruses. Viruses need to become less deadly to survive. If a virus kills too many hosts, it dies out.
The other issue with all of this - we're working from seriously flawed data. Remember during early and middle of 2020, with all of the Fauci Birx presentations, the numbers were going wild over 'tested positive', and 'died from' Covid? and the incentives to hospitals to have Covid-diagnosed patients? The captured numbers were such garbage that making comparisons using this data is just leading to making bad conclusions. Additionally, the deaths in the early months of Covid were, arguably, from mis-treatment of the hospitalized patients (remember the doctors who posted videos of themselves discussing how ventilation was overused or pressure exceeded that sustainable by the lungs and this treatment 'blew out' (their phrase, not mine) the lungs)? And, of course, the "died from vs died with" Covid bias of the captured data would lead us, today, to believe that this virus was less deadly than even the "99.56%" survivable rate, or greater, depending on age brackets.
I would think a more accurate 'guess' would center around using the expected flu casualties for 2020, and scrub the actual covid and flu data in 2020 (less physical accidents, homocides, fentanyl overdoses, etc.) and start looking there.
In my understanding, it is not all viruses become less deadly over time.
Rather a virus mutates in an animal, then it has a mutation that humans can catch, that first iteration will be most deadly, then become more contagious and less deadly as it spreads around.
Not all viruses are of the same lineage in that sense.
HIV did.
I can pretty much guess the "argument" in response to that by our world "experts" is:
"Why does 'Doctor' Kelly Victory hate science?!"
You spelled "science" wrong. It's "psyance," as in "psyops."
Or $cience.
I thought we're up to lambda variant now lol
Fear porn. They like to be in fear and would like others to be in fear too.
That’s why I always fly American.
Why - so you can 'Put your hands on your head, or be arrested like you don't care?'
". . ., Explain to me the logic, . . ." There's the problem - you asked for a logical explanation. None of the narratives surrounding the coof have to be logical; they only need to be repeated so often by so many people in so many places/outlets that they automatically replay in the sheeple's minds, at which point narratives will be accepted as unquestionable fact.
That isn't true. Viruses have mutated to become more lethal and virulent however the overall trend is towards preserving transmission instead of killing host. Artificial pressures like these mRNA could possibly create more lethal strains or strains with new ways of evading immune system. Look up some of the vaccines that were leaky vaccines used in chickens that ended up becoming stronger and more lethal in the chicken populations.
There are no variants, they are just taking different snippets of the RNA segments and making it up.
To support your point, India asked the WHO to provide a full sequence of the delta variant, and the WHO were unable to do so.
Viruses are not contagious by submitted for proofs that make big pharma shills mad
But the majority does not know this, since they do no research and are at the mercy of the MSM and lousy doctors. So, it is completely logical to push this stupid lie and keep the fear porn going. So logical, that millions will run out for a booster!
I feel like someone should do a covid-related parody of Don't fear the Reaper
With more cowbell🐸
What's about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%27s_disease ?
(https://www.bitchute.com/video/VgDwWq9sUzCh/)SARS-COV-2 NARRATIVE | PROFESSOR SUCHARIT BHAKDI
This is true
🐑
Normies are retarded and believe anything. These are the people driving alone in a car with a mask on. They watch the MSM and buy everything they say and the MSM is actually telling people that the "delta variant" is MORE deadly and will probably require a booster shot in the fall.