Yeah, meanwhile, innocents like my grandpa suffered the consequences thru tainted blood transfusions. He died before there was even a name for HIV/AIDS. All because of Fauci and his GoF "research."
I would pay big bucks to sit at the front row of his execution.
Nah, it was fake then and it still is. It's just that you still believe Fauci's first rodeo - AIDS. Ever wonder why it just stopped after 9/11 ushered in the neXt biG fEaR - terrorism?
Fake war, fake terrorism, fake virus, rinse, repeat.
NO. I was there. We were front lines in the battle against Gallo and Fauci's Science via Press Release demanding evidence, a study maybe, that links HIV to AIDS. The entire event was fraudulent, but we didn't have Q drops leading us in the right direction, teaching us HOW to fight and of course society thought we were 'reckless in the face of this vErY rEaL sCouRge'.
Dr Duesberg - nobel prize winner was the guy who called them out, demanding some sort of correlational evidence that HIV and AIDS were in any way connected, also observing that the mythical HIV fantasy has NEVER been observed in a human being. Result: discReDiteD.
He however, unlike the science via press release crowd, did find correlation with the SYNDROME (NOT dis-ease) called AIDS with some lifestyle choices the affected groups were making. Actual science, through study, not through DECREE.
We watched as the owner of the AZT drug (Fauci) promoted the shit out of the most extreme immuno-suppresant to ever be 'authorized' (by his wife) for human use.
US: Why suppress the immune system into oblivion if the observed SYNDROME appears to be an immune DEFICIENCY?
Then the fake tests - testing for T Cell count, the very insert on the package disclaimer pointing out that the test does not in any way show the existence of HIV. Then different numbers used in different countries to deliver a POS or NEG test.
If you took THE SAME TEST in England as Botswana, you would test NEG in England and POS in Botswana. ALL POS testing people were put on AZT, which caused their immune system to quit and VOILA - AIDS death statistic. And more dead Africans to not have to contend with when the globalists come for their resources.
THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING REAL ABOUT IT.
What we are seeing now is [them] trying the same successful whitewash event with a new biG sCarY viRuS.
the difference ?!?!?
Q drops.
WE are no longer alone. The great awakening is here and the 'reckless in the face of this vErY rEaL sCouRge' are now the vast majority of AmeriCANs.
There are hundreds of thousands of us for who the great awakening leads to this past AIDS tragedy being properly addressed, not to mention 911, which is also connected.
I was in the front lines, taking care of "AIDS" patients -- even getting them into the very first AIDS hospice in a major city. the sick died. for a long time. and it was devastating. when the full story is told millions of families should be compensated.
Were you aware of the fact that ONLY the patients taking AZT would have made it to your hospice and those that refused are walking around today as normal healthy people?
Obama weaponized the MSM clowns. Just as Bush and Obama weaponized our children’s education where every school was teaching the same thing at the same time around the country. Easy indoctrination format right under our noses.
Logic is lost on the illogical. They live in their own world of cognitive dissonance.
They know that 2+2=4, but they don't believe it anyway-on purpose.
look, the covid bullshit is absurd and utter horseshit and we all know it - but comparisons like this just make our side look like complete idiots. HIV was not transmitted by air and thats the first thing anyone with a brain would say in response to this. when forming arguments to point out how retarded the covid situation is, they need to be better than this if you want any hope of actually changing even a single mind.
ya but posts like this frustrate me bc this sort of apples to oranges comparison just pushes away middle ground folks & make the covid truthers/antivaxxers look stupid or hyperbolic, which we arent. if people just want to use this as proof 3459039450345 of how fucked Fauci is, sure. but it cant be used to compare with an airborne flu virus. bc for the first few months of covid we also didnt know how serious it was. but we are WELL beyond that so using the first few months of HIV to compare to 1 year+ in of a flu virus is not comparable.
At first, it was not known what was killing all the gay men. There was TONS of fear, especially within the gay community. Then, Magic Johnson caught it and it set off another panic, because he was heterosexual. He quit basketball and there was a national debate.
Social Media, MSM and corrupt Pols and Bureaucrats and a Global Fear mongering narrative are the difference. With those in place back in the 80's, the fear campaign may have exceeded Covid hype.
Judging by the condescending tone of your post, there is no ‘side’ other than your own. We went quite awhile with guys like Fauci claiming you could catch HIV from a toilet seat before we learned otherwise. If hindsight were 20/20 you’d be a fucking genius.
that still isn't air. you can get covid or a flu by simply breathing the same air as a stranger next to you in the grocery store. getting defensive over your poor analogy doesnt affect me or do you any good. I'm in LA, I am SURROUNDED by liberal idiots. I know exactly how they think & what they say to negate things & the quietly curious middle ground people see stuff like THIS absurd post and roll their eyes & think our side is hyperbolic and ridiculous. this is apples to oranges and if you want to make a good point it needs to be apples to apples.
I was just gonna say this.. but maybe the guy above is correct, it's possible they didn't know it was airborne then. I am trying to remember.. I think lots of people were worried if you could catch HIV by kissing and stuff.. but you can't right? Did they know that it was a sexual transmitted disease back then? Although I didn't give them much of my time but I have seen a couple posts on here that are saying the vaccine could actually be giving people HIV... there isn't much truth to that right?
Many of the vax theories are, IMHO. Aside from a little bit sick immediately after the jab, nobody I know has suffered any side effects. I’ve had several friends have successful pregnancies through the jab as well
That's the bitter sweet part to this whole thing. We constantly talk about how bad this vaccine is but we have many loved ones that took it and thankfully they are still with us. It is confusing though. I followed Dr. ZELENKO for a while and he was confident that if they are not dead or hurting now that they will be in 2ish years. To hear a actual Dr. Say that is terrifying and well he sounds truthful but at the same time I hope he is wrong.. but yeah seeing everyone I know personally fine after the jab makes me wonder what the actual truth it... but then you have to wonder if they truly care about our health.. I keep seeing that meme go around about if the Gov really cared about our health they would ban cigarettes and fast food.. I understand we need food freedom lol... but is it really any different when it comes to mandating vaccines to get a job or to shop for food? I mean the whole thing around eating at restaurants seemed odd to me too. You had to wear them going in to the restaurant but then you could take them off when you got to your table. I get that at the point your at your table you are generally distanced from other people but it just seemed odd. Science is odd, and well I am not a scientist.
Look at it this way: if the government was supplying a dangerous vax, what good would it do to kill off the people who comply? That greatly reduces the number of people who will follow their orders. It would completely go against their own interest
I Just saw a meme that said something like if Vaccinated people can still spread the virus why the hell do we even have vaccine passports? This meme reminded me of 2 things. 1st, my fiance works for the state, she and one other person decided not to get the vaccine and they are the only 2 people that have to get tested weekly. If vaccinated people can also spread the virus why don't they have to get tested as well? 2nd... this reminds me of what's going on in Gibraltar, most vaccinated place in the world, 118% vaccination rate and they have seen an increase in infections.
Sorry, I went in to the settings of this page and changed the layout and for some reason I couldn't see my notifications..What are your thoughts on it?... the FOIA article
I should go through the article again to refresh my memory but my first thought was about transparency, kind of where you and I left off in our previous chat. To label their own product safe and effective that is basically being mandated on humans all over the world but without releasing the information showing that it is safe and effective. Although I am an idiot, I do not know much about this stuff, I would imagine other drugs, such as viagra, I am sure you could get data on a drug like that.. but for a controversial vaccine that is in many ways being forced on people.. why are they asking for 55 years... to make people all warm and cuddly inside, show us the data, right?
Well they have released tons of information. The article you shared says a group is requesting over 300,000 pages of data that would then have to be reviewed to ensure no privacy laws are being broken.
I would read the article again, it mentions how data has to be pored over and potentially edited before turning them over to the requester, it’s not just a process of “here’s the documents you requested.”
Have you worked in documentation? I have, albeit for writing manuals for part catalogues. It’s tedious work, and I imagine it’s even more so when it comes to both medical and scientific data being reviewed.
Likely a place like this has all kinds of requests coming in, and depending on the size of their workforce, can’t get everything done at once. To completely review that many pages would take years, so I don’t doubt at all their request is going to take that long
"The group of scientists argued that releasing data relating to the vaccine would help satisfy vaccine skeptics of its safety and encourage further vaccinations." .... or the exact opposite. By 2076 most of us will be dead... and wouldn't that estimate to about 500 pages a week? I bet one person could easily do that in a day or two. Or maybe I'm dreaming
Looks like Rep. Ralph Norman just introduced a bill to make the FDA release the information in 100 or so days because he stated “After all, the FDA managed to consider all 329,000 pages of data and grant emergency approval of the Pfizer vaccine within just 108 days. So it’s hard to rationalize why it now needs 55 years to fully release that information to the public.” It's a valid point... especially if your gonna mandate it even though you have many people treating themselves at home naturally or even with over the counter supplements, right?
It doesn't make you wonder at all how they approved it so quickly for injection? Less than a year to approve but 55 years to provide the info.. maybe that's just how it goes.. but you would think that something so important, I mean the experts are saying the injection is the only thing that will end the pandemic and save human life... you would think that they could find some funding to hire more then 10 people to provide this information. An answer of 55 years does obviously sound more like an excuse right?
Fauci learned a lot in those days and will not make "errors" like that again...winks....
Yeah, meanwhile, innocents like my grandpa suffered the consequences thru tainted blood transfusions. He died before there was even a name for HIV/AIDS. All because of Fauci and his GoF "research."
I would pay big bucks to sit at the front row of his execution.
Your Grandpa? Sorry Man. I'll chip in to get you there.
Those tickets would be in very high demand....
My cousin had hemophilia and got aids that way too. Died at 12. The other two in my family that got it, earned it.
Remember this is a PLANdemic. All going according to PLAN.
Nah, it was fake then and it still is. It's just that you still believe Fauci's first rodeo - AIDS. Ever wonder why it just stopped after 9/11 ushered in the neXt biG fEaR - terrorism?
Fake war, fake terrorism, fake virus, rinse, repeat.
Fake in the sense it “naturally evolved” — it was engineered and released.
Fake in the sense there was no treatment — therapeutics existed 10 years before they were ‘allowed’ to save lives.
Real bio-weapons are released with fake narratives to render our defenses useless.
NO. I was there. We were front lines in the battle against Gallo and Fauci's Science via Press Release demanding evidence, a study maybe, that links HIV to AIDS. The entire event was fraudulent, but we didn't have Q drops leading us in the right direction, teaching us HOW to fight and of course society thought we were 'reckless in the face of this vErY rEaL sCouRge'.
Dr Duesberg - nobel prize winner was the guy who called them out, demanding some sort of correlational evidence that HIV and AIDS were in any way connected, also observing that the mythical HIV fantasy has NEVER been observed in a human being. Result: discReDiteD.
He however, unlike the science via press release crowd, did find correlation with the SYNDROME (NOT dis-ease) called AIDS with some lifestyle choices the affected groups were making. Actual science, through study, not through DECREE.
We watched as the owner of the AZT drug (Fauci) promoted the shit out of the most extreme immuno-suppresant to ever be 'authorized' (by his wife) for human use.
US: Why suppress the immune system into oblivion if the observed SYNDROME appears to be an immune DEFICIENCY?
Then the fake tests - testing for T Cell count, the very insert on the package disclaimer pointing out that the test does not in any way show the existence of HIV. Then different numbers used in different countries to deliver a POS or NEG test.
If you took THE SAME TEST in England as Botswana, you would test NEG in England and POS in Botswana. ALL POS testing people were put on AZT, which caused their immune system to quit and VOILA - AIDS death statistic. And more dead Africans to not have to contend with when the globalists come for their resources.
THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING REAL ABOUT IT.
What we are seeing now is [them] trying the same successful whitewash event with a new biG sCarY viRuS.
the difference ?!?!?
Q drops.
WE are no longer alone. The great awakening is here and the 'reckless in the face of this vErY rEaL sCouRge' are now the vast majority of AmeriCANs.
There are hundreds of thousands of us for who the great awakening leads to this past AIDS tragedy being properly addressed, not to mention 911, which is also connected.
I was in the front lines, taking care of "AIDS" patients -- even getting them into the very first AIDS hospice in a major city. the sick died. for a long time. and it was devastating. when the full story is told millions of families should be compensated.
Were you aware of the fact that ONLY the patients taking AZT would have made it to your hospice and those that refused are walking around today as normal healthy people?
No, the early patients weren’t on AZT. They died of the syndrome.
AZT was a bad drug, but people were dying even without it.
And...
Which lifestyle habits did Duesberg correlate with that particular sub-culture?
What were they doing that is known to destroy your immune system's function?
Hint: It was NOT anal sex. That was all to get notoriously prudish AmeriCAN'Ts to freak out.
Study up. You are close.
But HIV didn't know when you were walking around a restaurant without a mask.
The HIV epidemic( experiment ) was a trial, precursor if you will to what is happening now. A mere test run for Fauci's genocide.
Obama weaponized the MSM clowns. Just as Bush and Obama weaponized our children’s education where every school was teaching the same thing at the same time around the country. Easy indoctrination format right under our noses.
The onset of the era of mass surveillance
Yeah but that’s a disease you get through butt fucking… can’t stop that so
Logic is lost on the illogical. They live in their own world of cognitive dissonance. They know that 2+2=4, but they don't believe it anyway-on purpose.
look, the covid bullshit is absurd and utter horseshit and we all know it - but comparisons like this just make our side look like complete idiots. HIV was not transmitted by air and thats the first thing anyone with a brain would say in response to this. when forming arguments to point out how retarded the covid situation is, they need to be better than this if you want any hope of actually changing even a single mind.
That was my first thought as well, but then I remembered that we didn't know how it was spread or what was going on for at least several months.
Sure, maybe not a perfect comparison. But it's a valid one if you know the history.
If you lived through the first months and years- you are right. We didn’t know for sure how it was spread at first.
And then Fauci pushed that you could get it from toilet seats or spit or sweat..
He was always big on using fear for his fame seeking
ya but posts like this frustrate me bc this sort of apples to oranges comparison just pushes away middle ground folks & make the covid truthers/antivaxxers look stupid or hyperbolic, which we arent. if people just want to use this as proof 3459039450345 of how fucked Fauci is, sure. but it cant be used to compare with an airborne flu virus. bc for the first few months of covid we also didnt know how serious it was. but we are WELL beyond that so using the first few months of HIV to compare to 1 year+ in of a flu virus is not comparable.
At first, it was not known what was killing all the gay men. There was TONS of fear, especially within the gay community. Then, Magic Johnson caught it and it set off another panic, because he was heterosexual. He quit basketball and there was a national debate.
Social Media, MSM and corrupt Pols and Bureaucrats and a Global Fear mongering narrative are the difference. With those in place back in the 80's, the fear campaign may have exceeded Covid hype.
It was all bullshit now that we see magic is a big degenerate who got it through gay sex… look at his son… clearly passed around. Sick
yep... I agree.
College of Magic? MICHIGAN STATE
Fagic Johnson.
Judging by the condescending tone of your post, there is no ‘side’ other than your own. We went quite awhile with guys like Fauci claiming you could catch HIV from a toilet seat before we learned otherwise. If hindsight were 20/20 you’d be a fucking genius.
that still isn't air. you can get covid or a flu by simply breathing the same air as a stranger next to you in the grocery store. getting defensive over your poor analogy doesnt affect me or do you any good. I'm in LA, I am SURROUNDED by liberal idiots. I know exactly how they think & what they say to negate things & the quietly curious middle ground people see stuff like THIS absurd post and roll their eyes & think our side is hyperbolic and ridiculous. this is apples to oranges and if you want to make a good point it needs to be apples to apples.
When did your husband kill himself?
Don't make me separate you two.
lol wow. real patriot right here. thank you for exposing your true nature,
Its because HIV isn’t an airborne disease
we didn't know that for a few months
And Fauci actively pushed lies about how it spread
we also didnt know how lethal covid was at first either. you cannot compare month 19 of this virus to month 1 of HIV. not comparable.
I was just gonna say this.. but maybe the guy above is correct, it's possible they didn't know it was airborne then. I am trying to remember.. I think lots of people were worried if you could catch HIV by kissing and stuff.. but you can't right? Did they know that it was a sexual transmitted disease back then? Although I didn't give them much of my time but I have seen a couple posts on here that are saying the vaccine could actually be giving people HIV... there isn't much truth to that right?
Probably not. Almost everyone I know is vaxxed, including myself. If it were giving people AIDS I think I’d be aware of at least one case of it.
Yeah, that theory is far fetched I agree..
Many of the vax theories are, IMHO. Aside from a little bit sick immediately after the jab, nobody I know has suffered any side effects. I’ve had several friends have successful pregnancies through the jab as well
That's the bitter sweet part to this whole thing. We constantly talk about how bad this vaccine is but we have many loved ones that took it and thankfully they are still with us. It is confusing though. I followed Dr. ZELENKO for a while and he was confident that if they are not dead or hurting now that they will be in 2ish years. To hear a actual Dr. Say that is terrifying and well he sounds truthful but at the same time I hope he is wrong.. but yeah seeing everyone I know personally fine after the jab makes me wonder what the actual truth it... but then you have to wonder if they truly care about our health.. I keep seeing that meme go around about if the Gov really cared about our health they would ban cigarettes and fast food.. I understand we need food freedom lol... but is it really any different when it comes to mandating vaccines to get a job or to shop for food? I mean the whole thing around eating at restaurants seemed odd to me too. You had to wear them going in to the restaurant but then you could take them off when you got to your table. I get that at the point your at your table you are generally distanced from other people but it just seemed odd. Science is odd, and well I am not a scientist.
Look at it this way: if the government was supplying a dangerous vax, what good would it do to kill off the people who comply? That greatly reduces the number of people who will follow their orders. It would completely go against their own interest
I Just saw a meme that said something like if Vaccinated people can still spread the virus why the hell do we even have vaccine passports? This meme reminded me of 2 things. 1st, my fiance works for the state, she and one other person decided not to get the vaccine and they are the only 2 people that have to get tested weekly. If vaccinated people can also spread the virus why don't they have to get tested as well? 2nd... this reminds me of what's going on in Gibraltar, most vaccinated place in the world, 118% vaccination rate and they have seen an increase in infections.
So what do you think about this jab? We should all get it and move on with life?
Done. What would you like to talk about?
Sorry, I went in to the settings of this page and changed the layout and for some reason I couldn't see my notifications..What are your thoughts on it?... the FOIA article
Well, my first thought is who are these people requesting it? Just some group of 30 professors?
And then what is the request for? How much info are they looking for? because over 300,000 pages of info seems like a LOT.
I should go through the article again to refresh my memory but my first thought was about transparency, kind of where you and I left off in our previous chat. To label their own product safe and effective that is basically being mandated on humans all over the world but without releasing the information showing that it is safe and effective. Although I am an idiot, I do not know much about this stuff, I would imagine other drugs, such as viagra, I am sure you could get data on a drug like that.. but for a controversial vaccine that is in many ways being forced on people.. why are they asking for 55 years... to make people all warm and cuddly inside, show us the data, right?
Well they have released tons of information. The article you shared says a group is requesting over 300,000 pages of data that would then have to be reviewed to ensure no privacy laws are being broken.
I would read the article again, it mentions how data has to be pored over and potentially edited before turning them over to the requester, it’s not just a process of “here’s the documents you requested.”
Have you worked in documentation? I have, albeit for writing manuals for part catalogues. It’s tedious work, and I imagine it’s even more so when it comes to both medical and scientific data being reviewed.
Likely a place like this has all kinds of requests coming in, and depending on the size of their workforce, can’t get everything done at once. To completely review that many pages would take years, so I don’t doubt at all their request is going to take that long
"The group of scientists argued that releasing data relating to the vaccine would help satisfy vaccine skeptics of its safety and encourage further vaccinations." .... or the exact opposite. By 2076 most of us will be dead... and wouldn't that estimate to about 500 pages a week? I bet one person could easily do that in a day or two. Or maybe I'm dreaming
Looks like Rep. Ralph Norman just introduced a bill to make the FDA release the information in 100 or so days because he stated “After all, the FDA managed to consider all 329,000 pages of data and grant emergency approval of the Pfizer vaccine within just 108 days. So it’s hard to rationalize why it now needs 55 years to fully release that information to the public.” It's a valid point... especially if your gonna mandate it even though you have many people treating themselves at home naturally or even with over the counter supplements, right?
It doesn't make you wonder at all how they approved it so quickly for injection? Less than a year to approve but 55 years to provide the info.. maybe that's just how it goes.. but you would think that something so important, I mean the experts are saying the injection is the only thing that will end the pandemic and save human life... you would think that they could find some funding to hire more then 10 people to provide this information. An answer of 55 years does obviously sound more like an excuse right?
55 years for a vaccine produced at warp speed? Kind of funny, right?
We know that now….we had no idea early on.
Well it seems we’ve gotten smarter then